What should the Illwinter developers concentrate about in Dominions II.?

[Mortifer]

In YOUR opinion, what are the most important things in Dominions II.? What should the devs concentrate about first of all?

[ October 14, 2003, 17:47: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

[Kristoffer O]

Damn, I was only the second one to vote.

[Mortifer]

Muahah! I was the first! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[PvK]

Maybe we should wait until we actually have some experience with Doms II... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PvK

[Saber Cherry]

Only 2??? I wanted to select about 7 things... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Nerfix]

I will wait and see how the game needs to be improved, if it needs to be improved at all...

[Mortifer]

Originally posted by PvK:
Maybe we should wait until we actually have some experience with Doms II... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PvK<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think the timing was perfect for the poll, this will show some infos for the devs, that what are the preferred parts of the game for us, the players. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Lads the poll is about this: the most important things for you in Dominions 2.! That is why I asked, that what should they focus on!

[ October 14, 2003, 17:46: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

[Kristoffer O]

I'm the only one that wants me to add spells and creatures. Luckily I listen to myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Nerfix]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
I'm the only one that wants me to add spells and creatures. Luckily I listen to myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Since you don't seem to mind any possible extra work...

*goes to vote*

I voted for more units, sites and items.

[ October 14, 2003, 17:51: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

[Mortifer]

Well, wow again!

AI 50% (7)

Keep voting!

[Nerfix]

Originally posted by Mortifer:
Well, wow again!

AI 50% (7)

Keep voting!<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nothing realy suprising IMHO.

MP getting low votes doesn't mean MP isn't played, but Dom has already a good MP support.

[Maelstorm]

Originally posted by Nerfix:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Mortifer:
Well, wow again!

AI 50% (7)

Keep voting!<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nothing realy suprising IMHO.

MP getting low votes doesn't mean MP isn't played, but Dom has already a good MP support.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">MP won't get too many votes. It is already working very well.

[MStavros]

Hrmm another interesting poll.

Gfx & Sfx & Music 0% (0)
AI 56% (10)

It seems, that the players do not care about graphics, and it is all good. Finally a game with real strategy players. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[DominionsFan]

I voted too! Hey it seems that the players want some *** kicking AI! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Poll Results: What should the Illwinter developers concentrate about in Dominions II.? (26 votes.)
Gfx & Sfx & Music 0% (0)
AI 50% (13)
Editor 19% (5)
Singleplayer 35% (9)
Multiplayer 19% (5)
Gameplay 1.- Spells 12% (3)
Gameplay 2.- Units & Creatures 27% (7)
Gameplay 3.- Items & Special Sites 15% (4)
Adding new content [like the weapon/armor system etc.] 8% (2)


This is interesting indeed.

[Saber Cherry]

This poll is a bit self-selective. Dominions I attracted only people who did not care much about graphics and sound, ergo, this poll show that people who anticipate Dominons II don't consider those to be priorities.

Fortunately, the Dom II graphics look pretty good, so I don't think it will repel many newcomers, like Dom I did. But I'm thinking an additional option, "Interface", would've gotten near 100% of the votes from Dom I players:)

As for single player, I'm not sure what that option means other than AI. Though a campaign mode could be interesting... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

-Cherry

[QuarianRex]

Looks like I am the lone vote for better graphics and such so I figured that I had better qualify that. When I first saw the poll I figured that it was asking what things we wanted the developers to oncentrate on in Dom2 compared to Dom1. I thought that the other categories were quite well covered in Dom1 and that the only areas that could really use some work were the graphics (I tend to lump the interface in there too) and the AI.

When I say graphics I do not mean a 30sec blood gout animation every time someone gets hit. What I mean is to allow these epic battles to look a little more epic, as opposed to the stunted gameboard shuffling that usually makes me ship the battle replays in Dom1. It seems as though Illwinter has done just what I had hoped.

As for the AI... well you can always improve on that.

Edit: Spelling

[ October 14, 2003, 23:22: Message edited by: QuarianRex ]

[StarTux]

Should re-run this poll a month or so after the game ships http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . Would make an interesting contrast to what people think they need, versus what people actually get.

Of course, beta testers excepted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

StarTux

[HEMAN]

YA HOO, I Voted for SP,& EDITER http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif . I agree, rerun this Poll after Demo specially http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif .

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
I'm the only one that wants me to add spells and creatures. Luckily I listen to myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">hey you are not allowed to vote. You never bought the game! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Mortifer]

Okay, we will re-run this poll after the demo!

AI is still leading in this poll, I wonder what will change after the demo!:

AI 51% (18)

[Nagot Gick Fel]

No entry for "Game balance"??? If there's anything I want the devs to focus on, it has to be balancing nations, units, spells and whatnot.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Mortifer:
Okay, we will re-run this poll after the demo!

AI is still leading in this poll, I wonder what will change after the demo!:

AI 51% (18)<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you wanted to try a new poll you might even break down the AI abit. Most probably meant the AI of the opponents to make them harder.

Id like to see variation in the AI's to make them less predicatable. Playing against Ermor as a barbarian horde would be very different than if next game he played as defensive and slow-expansion. Same with builder, or tank commander, or diplomatic, or sneak-around-the-back modes.

Scripting AI opponents would be good also so that Jasper might write up a Version of his own favorite tactics so we can practice against him.

I also am disappointed that the AI for map management has been downgraded. This is kindof a high-end user thing but I sure wouldnt mind some time put into the AI of the host so that it would logically fill in the blanks on any .map file. It was a safety feature for playing with .map generators.

For that matter Id like to have seen "host features" listed on the poll.

[Mortifer]

Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
No entry for "Game balance"??? If there's anything I want the devs to focus on, it has to be balancing nations, units, spells and whatnot.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hm you are right, this will be added in the new poll.

Gandalf so what options would you like to see in the new poll exactly?

[Mortifer]

*Update*

Poll Results: What should the Illwinter developers concentrate about in Dominions II.? (37 votes.)
Gfx & Sfx & Music 3% (1)
AI 49% (18)
Editor 27% (10)
Singleplayer 30% (11)
Multiplayer 16% (6)
Gameplay 1.- Spells 16% (6)
Gameplay 2.- Units & Creatures 24% (9)
Gameplay 3.- Items & Special Sites 16% (6)
Adding new content [like the weapon/armor system etc.] 5% (2)

I really want to see, that what will change in the new poll after the demo is out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Zerger]

AI all the way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Aristoteles]

AI

[Jasper]

Micromanagement.

[Pocus]

game balance and micromanagement. Both of these benefit SP and MP by the way.

[Particle]

Originally posted by DominionsFAN:
I vote for AI. Better AI = Better, challenging gameplay = HAPPIER DominionsFAN! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree. AI is the most important thing.

[DominionsFan]

I vote for AI. Better AI = Better, challenging gameplay = HAPPIER DominionsFAN! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ October 16, 2003, 12:51: Message edited by: DominionsFAN ]