How old are Dom2 players?

[PhilD]

Just curious about the demographics of Dominions 2 players...

[Arryn]

Interesting that 1 in 6 are in my age group: too old.

[PhilD]

Originally posted by Arryn:
Interesting that 1 in 6 are in my age group: too old. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is no "too old". You're only too old when you declare yourself to be.

Still, I find it interesting that only 6% of replies were "under 20". I'm not that surprised that this game seems to appeal to an older crowd than, say, Warcraft or Counterstrike (for the record: I did play some Warcraft, but never any CS; Dominions 2 is my first ever MP game on the PC), but to find myself in the majority age group (I'm 34) is refreshing.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by PhilD:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Arryn:
Interesting that 1 in 6 are in my age group: too old. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is no "too old". You're only too old when you declare yourself to be.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm too old every time I'm reminded of the fact by my damn arthritic knees, protesting as I get up out of my chair to go get more Pepsi (the drink of the next generation{<font size=1>tm</font>}). The mind is willing, Phil, the body is another matter. It is a constant fight, and not one I always win.

[Norfleet]

And I'm still the lone outlier on the chart. I'm old! I'm old and I have a long beard! If you think you have it bad now, it'll only get worse for you.

Fortunately, the same willpower and indifference to physical hardship that allows me to play a 13 hour Marathon out to the point where everyone else folds from exhaustion also allows me to ignore all of the aches and pains of being old. After all, no pain, no gain.

The key here is, when something hurts, to imagine how it could hurt even more. Then it will cease to be bother you at all. If your knees are bothering you, imagine how much more they would bother you if they folded over the wrong way. Hold that image for a bit.

Do your knees still hurt? I didn't think so.

[LordArioch]

Norfleet's the old one? That Arm Commander picture made me think you were younger. Someone that old that plays real-time strategy and turn-based strategy? You must be (insert positive term in use by youth). I wish I end up like that when I'm old. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
The key here is, when something hurts, to imagine how it could hurt even more. Then it will cease to be bother you at all. If your knees are bothering you, imagine how much more they would bother you if they folded over the wrong way. Hold that image for a bit.

Do your knees still hurt? I didn't think so. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ack, all that does is transfer the ache from my knees to my head. What a terrible mental image. Stop it with the pseudo-psychobabble. I don't need that sort of relief. That's what modern drugs like ibuprofen are for ...

[ February 14, 2004, 09:48: Message edited by: Arryn ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by LordArioch:
Norfleet's the old one? That Arm Commander picture made me think you were younger. Someone that old that plays real-time strategy and turn-based strategy? You must be (insert positive term in use by youth). I wish I end up like that when I'm old. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Meh. Just because it's real time and requires a slightly faster mouse finger, an old man can't play? Although I primarily prefer strategy games, I play all types. Not to mention in those twitchy games, there's something perversely funny about some young whipper-snapper being fragged by an old geezer like myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Youth and vitality is no substitute for age and treachery.

Growing old is what you make of it: You'll come to realize that you're only young once, but you're never too old to be immature. When you're my age, you're too old for people to tell you what you should and should not do!

[ February 14, 2004, 10:39: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
Ack, all that does is transfer the ache from my knees to my head. What a terrible mental image. Stop it with the pseudo-psychobabble. I don't need that sort of relief. That's what modern drugs like ibuprofen are for ... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good, good. Now you've made a start. Now that your head hurts instead, try and ponder something that will transfer that pain to someplace else, until you find whatever it is that still hurts to be tolerable.

Me, I ponder until I transfer the pain off to the point where my hair hurts. I'm bald, so this doesn't bother me much.

[aldin]

I was deleted (no harm, no foul Gandalf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) but am determined! The average age of Dom2 players is...(drumroll please)... 31 (31.66 to be weirdly more precise yet not exact)! Now I suppose this is exactly the right place in time to declare my 31-ness. Yes, it's true, I am the average Dom2 player. As such, I shall regularly triumph against the AI... and regularly fail in MP. I shall come up with 'undefeatable strategies' and have them defeated. I will find the best nation and theme (over and over and over again as my tastes change or I become Enchanted with a new magic spell/item). I will put dozens of hours into perfecting a pretender/nation combo - then use something else less powerful just for the fun of it. But mostly, I will enjoy this wonderful forum filled with Dom2 players just like myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

~Aldin

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by aldin:
Yes, it's true, I am the average Dom2 player. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heehee. Excellent post. Yes you seem to have it down pat.

Oh and maybe one more. And even before you feel you have a grasp for the game you will still jump to every chance to try and convince other people that its the best game there is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Oh and maybe one more. And even before you feel you have a grasp for the game you will still jump to every chance to try and convince other people that its the best game there is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I have it a little easier where I tend to preach this. As I run the place as a totalitarian dictatorship, I simply pronounce it to be the best game I have ever played. Anyone who attempts to badmouth the game and imply that it is in any way less than awesome is punished harshly for blasphemy.

[tinkthank]

Good to know. 34 and counting. Married etc. Nice to know that real humans play this game and like it.

Suppose however that the large majority (> 90%) of players is male? Are there more than say 3 female persons who visit this forum?

[Arryn]

Originally posted by tinkthank:
Are there more than say 3 female persons who visit this forum? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes.

[ManInGray]

Im actually 12.

[Endoperez]

Bump.

I hope bumping this poll doesn't offend anyone.

I would like to see how the facts have changed, or if they have changed, now that Dominions II has gotten all those new players.

The facts when posting this message were:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">
Less than 15: 1, 1 %
15-19: 6, 5 %
20-24: 24, 18%
25-29: 31, 23%
30-34: 33, 25%
35-39: 18, 14%
40-44: 12, 9%
45-49: 4, 3%
50-54: 3, 2%
55-59: 0, 0%
60 or more: 1, 1%

total votes: 133</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Should other "Who/what/where are you" polls be bumped? I quess not, and because of that am ont doing that.

[Zeikko]

I am surprised how old people play Dom II. I have played a lot of Warcraft, cs, etc. popular games, and in those games I am quite old, but here i really feel myself young.

But the age is only positive thing, no abusive Posts and maybe better MP games I think.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Zeikko:
I am surprised how old people play Dom II. I have played a lot of Warcraft, cs, etc. popular games, and in those games I am quite old, but here i really feel myself young.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It shouldn't be a huge surprise. Dominions II has a somewhat oldschool feel to it: It doesn't have those super 3D graphics that every new game MUST have in order to sell. It's not made as a mass market game, and we old people remember the days when games were works of art, and value that artistic integrity: Modern shovelware gaming does not impress us.

[Niefelson]

I'm playing with a bunch of frens of mine and we are oldies... 37, 37, 39, 43 and 41.

I hardly see any of them in the forum, unless of course they are using a different nickname. Well, something to add to the stats.. heh heh

[Tenryu]

I'm 50 something ... I forget.
What was the question?
Oh well, time for my nap.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Zeikko]

I am only 16 and i remember Bubble Bobble, Star Control, etc. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[PrinzMegaherz]

I am only 22 and remember Dungeon Master http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

Seems something is wrong with my upbringing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[z0dd]

Since we're reflecting on past strategy gaming experiences, one can guesstimate my age by what I remember playing "back in the days":

- Fortress of the Witch King
- War of the Lance
- Sword of Aragorn
- Xyphus
- Sword of Fargoal

and of course: Master of Magic!

[Endoperez]

If someone wants to try Master of Magic, it is available from www.the-underdogs.org (http://www.the-underdogs.org) as abandonware...

For those who don't know about it: Civilization-like interface, great deal of nice spells. Many bugs and many of them exploitable. It was never meant to be played in multiplayer, so the balance was thrown away and designers instead went for good gaming experience...

It has some things Dom-fans won't like, but it has great innovations too! And it is good for a few hours' game that does not need real thought to go into it.

[Wyatt Hebert]

MoM was great!

Oh, and Sword of Fargoal? *lol* Played that... even got down to the fifteenth level a few times...

Bum--bum-ba-bum--bum-bum-bum--ba-bum-ba-bum...


Now, a game I really liked was (is) Mail Order Monsters. Cute little interface and all, and MULE is still one of the best economics games, imho. (I'm only 27... and I like that I can say only) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Wyatt

[tinkthank]

I remember the days before computers. Only vaguely, but I remember. Played "adventure" on a Zenith CP/M when I was about 8.

[Leif_-]

Originally posted by z0dd:
Since we're reflecting on past strategy gaming experiences, one can guesstimate my age by what I remember playing "back in the days":

- Fortress of the Witch King
- War of the Lance
- Sword of Aragorn
- Xyphus
- Sword of Fargoal

and of course: Master of Magic! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hah! Whippersnapper. My first forays into gaming goodness was through such esteemed titles as:

- International Soccer (on a ROM cartridge)
- Hunchback
- Manic Miner
- Jumpman
- Blagger
- Summer Games
- Commando
- Bruce Lee
- Choplifter
- Barbarian

and many, many, many more. (Floppy disks? Floppy disks We didn't need no steenking floppy disks.)

[Endoperez]

Barbarian, (or Death sword) was quite unique game... the feeling in it is great. Pity I have found nothing like it, I liked the controls and all the things you were able to do. I'm not sure about the decapitation, though, as it had so strong impact in the game.

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Leif_-:
Hah! Whippersnapper. My first forays into gaming goodness was through such esteemed titles as:

- International Soccer (on a ROM cartridge)
- Hunchback
- Manic Miner
- Jumpman
- Blagger
- Summer Games
- Commando
- Bruce Lee
- Choplifter
- Barbarian

and many, many, many more. (Floppy disks? Floppy disks We didn't need no steenking floppy disks.) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Bruce Lee was a damn cool game, especially since you could play it as a two player game, with the second player taking the role of a green sumo with a useless bellow as a tertiary attack.

[Arryn]

All of you are still too young. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

My first foray into computer gaming was *writing* a lunar lander "sim" in Fortran (and later PL/1) on an IBM 360/40 mainframe. Input via punchcards (remember the model 029/129 keypunch machines?) or the ops console, output via greenbar paper on a line printer. Hmmm, framerate was 0.1-0.2 fps ...

[Wendigo]

For those into retro-strategy gaming I would suggest:

-Lords of Midnight (spectrum 48k game, but a PC port exists and is only a few Kbs)

-Centurion, defender of the crown

[Ragnarok-X]

The first game i ever played was Xenon II. Then i discovered Sokoban, and finally Dune 2. That whas the beginning for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . I think those games came in the late 80's, at least Xenon II. Later i got a hang of Commander Keen and stuff like that.

[Leif_-]

Originally posted by Wendigo:
For those into retro-strategy gaming I would suggest:

-Lords of Midnight (spectrum 48k game, but a PC port exists and is only a few Kbs)

-Centurion, defender of the crown <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Personally, I'd suggest Djengis Khan or Bandit Kings of China, although they are (slightly) more recent.

Whatever happened to the "Beer and Pretzel" computer strategy games? Games such as "Ports of Call" or "Oil Imperium" where you could bench three or four friends in front of the computer and have fun for an evening? Hot-seat games weren't just hot-seat because of technical limitations - they were a special kind of fun.

Darned it - I'm too young to be nostalgic!

[Endoperez]

Tower of the Moon (http://www.icemark.com/tower/index.html)

It seems to be a home to unofficial Lords of Midnight 1&2 PC-conVersions... I thought the same guy was doing a remake, but didn't find it so it was propably my mind doing tricks for me.

[Tricon]

My first pc game experience was probably digger (and I still play it today).
My first real strategy game? Probably The Ancient Art of War by Borderbund (Awesome game, availabe at the Underdogs. The games I played most in the 80's (second half) were probably Digger, Pirates!, Wasteland, Ancient Art of War and Bards Tale 1.
Sigh. Those were the days .... (I could live on a candy bar and a can of coke for two days, needing no sleep and no light, and still geting good grades in school, somehow.)

[ March 17, 2004, 16:24: Message edited by: Tricon ]

[Leif_-]

Originally posted by Tricon:
The games I played most in the 80's (second half) were probably Digger, Pirates!, Wasteland, Ancient Art of War and Bards Tale 1. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Incidentally, Sid Meier is working on a new Version of Pirates! these days. Might turn out sweet, sweet, sweet - or it might turn out to be "oh, woe for what could have been."

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Leif_-:
Darned it - I'm too young to be nostalgic! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If most of the games today weren't so crappy you wouldn't *need* to be nostalgic ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Tricon]

Originally posted by Leif_-:
Incidentally, Sid Meier is working on a new Version of Pirates! these days. Might turn out sweet, sweet, sweet - or it might turn out to be "oh, woe for what could have been." <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yup, heard about it. Hoping for the best here!
For those who like the pirate genre and cannot wait, I suggest Port Royale 2 coming out in April (at least in Europe). Right now, it looks even better than Sid Meiers Pirates!

I haven't played Port Royale 1 but they have a very solid fan base.


Sorry for the topic drift.

[ March 17, 2004, 16:37: Message edited by: Tricon ]

[Unwise]

Tough to recall the first computer game I played. Probably "pong".

I think the first strategy game for a computer I can remember playing was "Empire". I can't even find any references to it on Google, but it was a 4-color title. I don't even remember what I was playing it on - either an early IBM PC or an Apple ][, I would suppose.

Edit - Thanks for the pointer to the-underdogs.org, great site. Empires (the Version I first played) was released in 1978. I probably played it in the early 80s sometime. I have some memories of playing the 16-color Version during college around '88, but everything from that time is more-or-less buried in a beer-soaked haze.

[ March 17, 2004, 17:15: Message edited by: Unwise ]

[Tricon]

Another great game, though.

[Hozzy]

Wow... I had some really late nights on my C64, good games, well written, Knights Of Legend - Kings Bounty - The Ultima Series, as for my age I was in collage when most of those titles were out, wish someone would update some of the old classics, before that I was a Atari junky Adventure on the 2600 was one of the frist experiences I had with a strategy type game

[Tricon]

The appearance of quite a few new sigs promted me to bump this. (I'm a statistics freak.)

[Gandalf Parker]

The average age has gone down abit since Last I looked but still higher than many game communitys.

NEW PEOPLE: jump to
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=74;t=001424;p=3#000 001
and "vote" in the Poll

[Rasorow]

Since someone brought up the C64, does anyone beside me remember Tunnels of Doom on the TI 99/4A? It was a great RPG game with strong elements of strat and tactics. It was also what started me on the strat and RPG games.

Rasorow

[JaydedOne]

For what it's worth, I'm in the plurality bracket (27% at 25-29) but have been gaming since kindergarten on our old Apple II+ and with the D&D red boxed set. The oldest games I remember loving? Chivalry, Aztec, Choplifter, and Karateka.

Good times. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Cohen]

I playd both centurion and defender of the crown!

Great games, for their time.

[Gandalf Parker]

I played MUD games Online before there were PC's or Internet (thats really my picture there).
My first computer was a C64 and that was after I graduated, was in the military, and married.

[Anglachel]

Machiavelli:
The Prince (probably the best diplomacy style game I have ever seen, best hot seat game I have ever seen)
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Archon II
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X-COM I and II(Duh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )
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Master of Monsters(sega genesis only so get an emulator)
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Panzer General(Invading Washington D.C. was interesting.)
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Like to thank the mention of War of the Lance. I had totally forgotten that game. It was awesome at the time.

[Thilock_Dominus]

I'm 26 years old. My first experience with Strategi games was on commodore 64 with the legendary game 'Defender of the Crown' http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . *all hail Defender of the crown* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Caduceus]

29, almost thirty.

I too remember playing Empire on my PC, but it was text X and Os moving across a landscape.

Also played Zork and Sword of Glass.

Then the light broke through and we got Bard's Tale I...

When we got Hercules (4 color) graphics), we were the bomb on the street http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Wildcard

[PrinzMegaherz]

Do you know MUDS (mean ugly dirty sports). That was a great sports game.

Or Speedball 2. God I loved that game.
What happened to Bitmap Brothers?

[HotNifeThruButr]

I turned 14 in February, so I'm in the lonely little age group of 15-. I remember downloading Masters of Magic off an abandonware site once, and it KICKED ***! You gotta love them Adamantium hammerhands.

*puts on asbestos suit* I thought all the old games were supposed to be simple and crappy.

[sergex]

I'm 26 years old. My first experience with Strategi games was on commodore 64 with the legendary game 'Defender of the Crown' . *all hail Defender of the crown*

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wow, I'm 28 and I think that's my first Strat game too (for the Amiga). There was another one too based on Japan.. Lords of the Rising Sun I think. Cinemaware was the best series of games!

[Stormbinder]

I am 28 and my first computer game was F19 in about 1988 I think. I was playing it on very bad rip-off of IBM PX XT, called "EC-1840". (it didn't had hardrive and come with monochrome Hercules-type display). These were the days... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Murph]

I seem to be right in the middle of the most common age Groups (I'm 28), and I didn't even remember a lot of these games until people here reminded me of them. The one I've been expecting to see here was Temple of Apshai (or was it Legend of Apshai-dear god I feel old) for the C-64 (sweet commodore cartridge games), and Rule Babylon, a great old text-based kingdom sim.

I guess it's nice to know that I'm not alone in having been a hopeless gaming addict all my life.

Oh, and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Warlords? Warlords 1 got me into hot-seat gaming, and for some obscure reason, even in this age of ADSL and multiplayer, it still bothers me when a turn-based game does not have hotseat. Without hotseat, how can you role-play AND wargame at the same time?

[Psitticine]

There were several Apshai games. I believe there were both Temple and Legend games. Warriors of Apshai sounds familiar too. I'll have to go looking around some day. I remember having fun with them waaaaay back when on my C-64.

[Taqwus]

*g* I think I still have Archon, The Ancient Art of War, Wasteland, Articfox, Pinball Construction Set, The Seven Cities of Gold and others of that era on the original 5.25" floppies. Not that I've used a 5.25" for a while...

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
I turned 14 in February, so I'm in the lonely little age group of 15-. I remember downloading Masters of Magic off an abandonware site once, and it KICKED ***! You gotta love them Adamantium hammerhands.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Better than hammerhands - adamantium (or even mithril) berserkers with a few spells cast on them. IIRC, they were 8 to a unit, multiplying the benefit of all bonuses, and they had a thrown attack, meaning that one of the best foot/melee soldiers could also attacking flying units. Awesome.


*puts on asbestos suit* I thought all the old games were supposed to be simple and crappy. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heh. The graphics were crappy, but the gameplay was often wonderful.

LodeRunner, for instance - unbelievable quantity of hours playing that, trying to figure out how to beat the different levels. Or Wizardry - graphics that could've been done on an EtchaSketch, but addictive enough that I bought a copy before I owned a computer - $70 in, mmm, 84? Sometimes had three of us playing at the same time on computers in the office, including a staff sergeant who made fun of us for games until he tried it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Or Sword of Aragon, in some ways one of the original precursors to Dominions....

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Murph:
I seem to be right in the middle of the most common age Groups (I'm 28), and I didn't even remember a lot of these games until people here reminded me of them. The one I've been expecting to see here was Temple of Apshai (or was it Legend of Apshai-dear god I feel old) for the C-64 (sweet commodore cartridge games), and Rule Babylon, a great old text-based kingdom sim.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I thought that Temple of Apshai sucked, personally... Telengard was better. But ... cartridge games for the C64? I had a C128, bought with reenlistment bonus money; it had a floppy. A roommate had the C64 - something like 15 minutes to load Apshai from cassette tape. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Oh, and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Warlords? Warlords 1 got me into hot-seat gaming, and for some obscure reason, even in this age of ADSL and multiplayer, it still bothers me when a turn-based game does not have hotseat. Without hotseat, how can you role-play AND wargame at the same time?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The original Warlords was one of my Favorites - I still wish they'd include it as a bonus on one of the new Versions. Lots and lots of hours playing it hotseat - weekend parties, beer, whiskey, loud music, and constantly someone taking their turn at the computer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

A classic really, because all the different nations played with such different flavor, and most had several possible "key" strategies. Orcs rushing for a couple of cities to the south, Bane all alone in the NE, elves sandwiched between giants and the knight nation... I wish I still had that one.

Heh. Something else we used to do for hotseat games, of Warlords and Anacreon (a great text-based sciencefiction 4X game) was to play at work, with 3-5 games at once, so people almost never had to wait for a turn. The brass thought we were dedicated, 'cause there'd often be someone there to answer the phone and give tech support long after duty hours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Taqwus:
*g* I think I still have Archon, The Ancient Art of War, Wasteland, Articfox, Pinball Construction Set, The Seven Cities of Gold and others of that era on the original 5.25" floppies. Not that I've used a 5.25" for a while... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Played or owned all of those, but definately don't still have any - finally ditched boxes full of 5.25 floppies a move or three ago. If you could find a computer with a 5.25, odds were that a given disk couldn't be read; if it could be read, odds were the game was unplayable on faster CPUs - some you couldn't even see more than a blur of action on screen. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Cainehill:
I thought that Temple of Apshai sucked, personally... Telengard was better. But ... cartridge games for the C64?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Jumpman Junior came on a cartridge that plugged into the back of the C64. I found it to be much harder than the original Jumpman.

A roommate had the C64 - something like 15 minutes to load Apshai from cassette tape.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There was a floppy drive for the C64, but the first Version wore out extremely quickly. We went through several of them in a short period of time.

[mikegamer]

I started out on an Atari 400 with a tape drive and my first non cartridge game was Eastern Front, WWII with weather effects, fortification and lots of good times. Telengard was also fun and even my non computer friends liked 4 player M.U.L.E. I still regularly play the first Sid Meyer games Civ, Colonization, MOM, etc. Cartridge games I remember are Joust, and Dig Dug.

[mikegamer]

Has the age profile changed much? I just voted and made the first on in the 55 to 60 age group.

[Zapmeister]

Age and trechery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But treachery and spelling nazism will always overcome age and trechery http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Delphinium]

If this thread goes on much longer, I'll have to resubmit my answer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Adept]

I just recently turned thirty. My group or four are all roughly in the same bracket.

Oh, and regarding Master of Magic, you are all way wrong. The unit to have is of course hobbit slingers. Adamantium bullets go through knight and horse. Got to love that thwack-thvack-thvack sound. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Those hobbit slingers still warp the way our Warhammer group sees halflings to this day.

[HotNifeThruButr]

Too bad they're no match for the undisputed power of the Klackon Spearmen!

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Delphinium:
If this thread goes on much longer, I'll have to resubmit my answer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cute. Actually I have a birthday coming up in a few days but it doesnt quite change my Category yet.

[LintMan]

Temple of Apshai on a 5.25" was the very first game I got for my C-64, and I promptly wrecked it by titling my saved games as "level 1", "level 2", etc.

After several restarts, I found the first few levels were entirely empty of monsters and treasure - apparently, the game had titled the original starting levels files "level 1", "level 2", etc, and it had let me save right over them. By the time I figured it out, things were so depopulated on the early levels, I was unable to get enough experience/equipment to survive at all on the later levels. Game over.

Better gaming memories:
- Impossible Mission for C-64: I still remember the bad guy's line: "Ahh, another visitor...Stay a while. Stay forever!"
- M.U.L.E. for C-64: This game cries out for a full-blown remake.
- Conquered Kingdoms for PC: Awesome. My first real turn-based strat game I was heavily into, I remember it very fondly. I really miss developer QQP.

[Gandalf Parker]

just thought I would remind people that there is an interesting poll at the beginnning of this thread

[PvK]

I'm another Atari 8-bit fan, for the record. I think some of the games for that platform are still the best of their type that I've seen, though perhaps partly because their type (action over graphics) isn't in vogue and won't sell massive amounts to foolish newbies these days.

Star Raiders
Necromancer
Encounter

Other amazing games for their day, on the Atari (and some others) included:

Omnitrend's Universe
Eastern Front 1941 (Already mentioned)
War In Russia (I think I prefer this original Version to the later PC Versions)
Computer Ambush
The Cosmic Balance

PvK

[ April 24, 2004, 18:41: Message edited by: PvK ]

[Gandalf Parker]

The average age has gone down abit since Last I looked but still higher than many game communitys.

NEW PEOPLE: jump to
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=74;t=001424;p=5#000 001
and "vote" in the Poll

[ May 14, 2004, 15:58: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]