The New Game: The Revenge

[Norfleet]

Welp, that Last game went over pretty well. So I'm thinking of starting another game. As always, something along the neighborhood of 4-5 hours a day, to run on a fairly consistent schedule, barring intermittent emergencies for somebody, to the death!

Who's in? Navrunner? Condors? Want some revenge? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[condors]

not ready for a rematch yet, looking at other races

[Truper]

I keep being tempted by one of these epics. Post details, and perhaps I'll lay in plenty of supplies and join one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Kelan]

I may be up for a game sometime in the near future to test my skills and see how they work in a MP game. It would be a good test as you seem to be quite a formidable player, Norfleet.

However, it will have to wait a few weeks at least until I can get 4-5 hours at a time to commit to play. Even then, I would only be available from 5pm-10pm Eastern on weekdays and most anytime during the morning and afternoon on the weekends.

One question I do have is about how long does it take for each turn normally? I know it must vary widely depending on how far into the game and other factors, but what is it by average? I am just curious as to the pace and whether I would be able to plan/think fast enough to keep up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Kelan:
I may be up for a game sometime in the near future to test my skills and see how they work in a MP game. It would be a good test as you seem to be quite a formidable player, Norfleet.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heh. Maybe. It's only my second game against other forumites.


However, it will have to wait a few weeks at least until I can get 4-5 hours at a time to commit to play. Even then, I would only be available from 5pm-10pm Eastern on weekdays and most anytime during the morning and afternoon on the weekends.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Works for me. Maybe you'll be able to catch the game or two after the one I'm trying to organize now, then.


One question I do have is about how long does it take for each turn normally? I know it must vary widely depending on how far into the game and other factors, but what is it by average? I am just curious as to the pace and whether I would be able to plan/think fast enough to keep up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How long....well, an early game turn, is primarily bounded by others. I've seen people take up to 5 minutes on turn 2, which I think is rather unusually long, given that turn 2 takes *ME* about 15 seconds. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

As a good rule of thumb, turn N will take (N+5)/2 minutes to complete, on average.

[navrunner]

Yes I would be interested. I am not sure if "revenge" would be the goal.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by navrunner:
Yes I would be interested. I am not sure if "revenge" would be the goal. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You don't want revenge for the second time I've beaten you now? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

What side do you want to call this time? Me? I'm Ermor again. Maybe I'll take Soul Gate for a spin, though.

Mostly, I just called it that because "The Revenge" sounds cool. I already have a game running called "The New Game: Ultimate Death", so I figured "The New Game: The Revenge" would sound nice.

[ March 10, 2004, 02:29: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Argitoth]

Ooohohoho, ermor!? >:}

I don't get it though. Can you give me some info on how this is going to work? I don't want to do PBEM. and it looks like this is a network game, so how is this going to work?

It looks like we will take turns when we are all Online like a blitz.

[ March 10, 2004, 05:27: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
Ooohohoho, ermor!? >:}

I don't get it though. Can you give me some info on how this is going to work? I don't want to do PBEM. and it looks like this is a network game, so how is this going to work?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good, because I hate PBEM. I don't even have email.

And yes, it's a network game. It works exactly like a blitz. We may even PLAY it as a Marathon-blitz, if nobody has any impinging time issues.

Basically, we start the game at the appointed time, and we play until somebody has to go. Then we pick up again the next day. And so on, until only one man remains standing. And be warned that I fight to the bitter end. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Argitoth]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
And be warned that I fight to the bitter end. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oooh, good. Better for me when I have Undead Mastery researched.

[Norfleet]

I take it you're going to be C'tis? That'll make for an interestingly amusing tug-of-war, if everyone is casting undead mastery back and forth. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Argitoth]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I take it you're going to be C'tis? That'll make for an interestingly amusing tug-of-war, if everyone is casting undead mastery back and forth. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If this happened, about half of the undead each time would be turned to a different side so eventually, you'd have a battlefield of undead that looked like a giant free for all.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
If this happened, about half of the undead each time would be turned to a different side so eventually, you'd have a battlefield of undead that looked like a giant free for all. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, I think it would take all of about 1, maybe 2, castings to turn the battle into a giant, roiling, free-for-all melee, since the undead converted would essentially be random, and the entire mess would instantly devolve into a huge mass as the mob turns on each other. I've seen it happen. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Norfleet]

Okay, so, somebody suggest a time.

[djtool]

i love to be everyone elses beyatch...but there's no way i could do it for hours for consistent days, i have a son to take care of (3 months old).

if you were to consider a once a week deal for this one or in the future please accept my willingness to fail http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Argitoth]

7pm EST friday.

[Norfleet]

Okay, we've got a 7 EST Friday. Anyone object to that time?

[archaeolept]

what map and settings are you thinking of using?

[Norfleet]

Illwinter/Torvak's World map, Indy-6, Magic-75, Random Rare, Rename enabled.

[Norfleet]

So, who all is on the victim list now?

[Argitoth]

i don't think you should do events rare.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
i don't think you should do events rare. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, if you insist. It's more of an ingrained habit than anything else, as I've always had a firm distrust of random events from other games, and even on "rare", there's an awful lot of them: I've always felt the game played faster and focussed more on the actual strategery if every turn didn't drag out into an extended nuclear waste disposal program or turn into an extended crapshoot of who got hosed by a random event today. Besides, most of them are beneficial to me anyway, as I'm Turmoil and Luck. I don't even mind the population killers. Losing 1/4th of my 0 population doesn't really bother me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It should be noted that playing on a large map already greatly increases the probability of random events greatly. Even on rare, I rarely go turns without 2 or 3 randoms.

[ March 11, 2004, 04:35: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[archaeolept]

normally, I'd be against rare randoms, but Norfleet makes some good points - given the size of the map, and also helping to lessen the chance of completely messing up a game start.

However, I just checked out the map, and in two of the three games I started in a one territory island w/out any link to any other land mass. That would be a game breaker, IMO, given I was a completely non-water nation.

The other time I started in Ireland http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by archaeolept:
However, I just checked out the map, and in two of the three games I started in a one territory island w/out any link to any other land mass. That would be a game breaker, IMO, given I was a completely non-water nation.

The other time I started in Ireland http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, that's a pain. We used to have a problem with this, and with a few players in the game, we used to end up declaring 3 or 4 mulligans before everyone had a start position that didn't suck.

The problem seems to have subsided with the innovative solution of flagging some of the really crappy starting positions nostart. That shouldn't happen anymore as a result.

Game update: The start of the game will have to be delayed an hour to 2000 EST, because the server op won't be back on that day until then and can't start the game until he returns. Once the game has started, however, subsequent days can run at 1900 EST just fine.

The server will be brought up tomorrow for the start of sign-in. Would all participating please declare their national pick at this time?

I'll be playing Ermor. As usual.

[Norfleet]

Well, the server has been brought up for sign-in.

Can we get a call of who's in and what they're going to play?

[djtool]

i'll have to bow out.

but if you keep track of these things i think saturday's 9am-4 CST i'm good and Sunday's 9am - 3 i'm usually good

[Argitoth]

how do we connect to the server if we don't have ip and port?

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
how do we connect to the server if we don't have ip and port? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh, right, silly me.

kludgemush.com 10811

[navrunner]

I am in.
I will take one of the races that are left tomorrow before the game starts. I am still playing around with a few races.


Added:
I think we may get more players if we start on Saturday.

[ March 11, 2004, 22:34: Message edited by: navrunner ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by navrunner:
I think we may get more players if we start on Saturday. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Maybe. But I think that the moment, the obstacle to sign-ins is more the fact that the abstainers don't wish to devote a large chunk of uninterrupted time on a daily basis.

Also, while we might get more people to sign in if we pushed the game up a day, we might also get more people dropping OUT of the game if it overruns the weekend. I'll keep that under consideration for next game, though.

[Norfleet]

Well, here's what we have so far:

Me - Ermor
Argitoth - C'tis(?)
Tujin - Pangaea or Caelum (still deciding)
Navrunner - Unspecified

Anyone else in? So far, nobody else has actually uploaded their pretenders yet. Kickoff's at 2000 EST. Don't miss it!

[condors]

i may be a late entry, not looking good but its a possiblity

[DarkTears]

It's a network game I say. I newer played net D2. I think I would like to play. Machaka is my favorite, but Pangaea is my 2nd favorite.

[ March 12, 2004, 14:31: Message edited by: DarkTears ]

[Graeme Dice]

If the starting time is at 2000 EST, then I can probably make it. I'll take Arcoscephale and upload my pretender only if I'm going to be able to play.

[Argitoth]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
If the starting time is at 2000 EST<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">8pm EST? I'm up for that, and I want C'tis.

Something is horribly wrong with my router and I won't be able to upload my pretender until i can fix the problem. Be patient, though.

Please send me an e-mail at Argitoth@hotmail.com for the time being for any information I might need because I won't be able to return to Shrapnel but I will be able to meet in the #dominions channel in irc.gamesurge.net

I already have the port and IP, but I highly suggest we meet on IRC.

[Norfleet]

Heh. What an odd Argitoth. He can check his email, and use IRC, but can't get simple-TCP to a single port to work.

That's what you get for using a crappy router, instead of a proper Linux box!

Looks like we'll be having quite the party.

[ March 12, 2004, 17:25: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Truper]

I do believe I'll join - or actually, I can't quite believe it. Question though - random rare or common? It will definately make a difference to pretender design. I'll be playing Vanheim.

[Norfleet]

Rare. The World map is enormously huge enough that even on rare events, you're probably going to get your full quota of 3 events a round. I always have, even on an Order-3 race, randoms rare race.

What rare *DOES* reduce is the possibility that your temple/lab/home province BURNS TO THE GROUND inside of the first 3 turns of the game, leaving you totally jacked. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And hey, either way works out in *MY* favor. I'm luck 3, and I'm going to burn down all my provinces anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ March 12, 2004, 19:20: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Norfleet]

So, here's the present preliminary roll call:

Me: Ermor
Tujin: Caelum or Pangaea (undecided)
Argitoth: C'tis
Condors: Ulm (probably)
Navrunner: Unspecified(?)
Truper: Vanheim
DarkTears: Machaka(?)
Graeme: Arco

My, regular full house this game.

[mivayan]

If tujin chooses caelum, i'll take pangea. Lots of people in the game sounds like fun.

[Truper]

Pretender uploaded. Further question: has it been customary to use irc or some messenger service to communicate during these epics?

[ March 12, 2004, 20:27: Message edited by: Truper ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Truper:
Pretender uploaded. Further question: has it been customary to use irc or some messenger service to communicate during these epics? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not really. Mostly because I am devoid of IRC, because being on IRC has always filled me with an urge to do severe bodily harm to the others on the channel. I think I might have been on the wrong channels, though. Either way, I lack an IRC client. Does anyone have a Linux IRC client that is not too much work to set up and directions how to operate it?

Messenger, on the other hand, I consider to be beneath my dignity to touch. If I absolutely MUST contact somebody who's only point of contact is through IM, I dispatch a minion (aka. "flunky" or "*****"), to deliver my message.

[Arryn]

Trillian is a great (and free) IRC client for Windows. I have no idea what's available for linux.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
Trillian is a great (and free) IRC client for Windows. I have no idea what's available for linux. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Never heard of it. I use Windoze for games only. Since Windoze will be occupied with the important task of playing Dominions II, where I, as Ermor, struggle valiantly not to be overly late despite the massive amount of pencils that much be pushed, a task I manage to pull off amazingly well, ALT-TABBING constantly is not an option. And my screen is too small to play in Windowed mode without looking like crap. I could get a bigger monitor, but do you have any idea how long it takes to order a custom-built bulletproof monitor? Plus then I wouldn't have enough space on my desk to put other monitors.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by mivayan:
If tujin chooses caelum, i'll take pangea. Lots of people in the game sounds like fun. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What's your second choice if Pangaea is taken?

[Norfleet]

Everybody should make sure they have downloaded the World map prior to starting the game. Either Illwinter's world map OR the Torvak Version are both valid. Don't hold up the kickoff by finding out you don't have the map!

[mivayan]

I have illwinters world map. How come it does not matter which one, do clients only need the image file?

What's your second choice if Pangaea is taken? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">R'lyeh, I think.

[DarkTears]

I quit, sorry. Maybe next time. For the others: Good Luck and Have Fun!

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by DarkTears:
I quit, sorry. Maybe next time. For the others: Good Luck and Have Fun! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, better now than later.

So, current roll call:

Me: Ermor
Tujin: Caelum or Pangaea (undecided)
Argitoth: C'tis(?)
Condors: Ulm(?)
Navrunner: Unspecified(?)
Truper: Vanheim (signed in)
Graeme: Arco(?)

Still pretty packed. And still a lot of people yet to sign up. Try to get your sign-ins done before about 1930 EST.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by mivayan:
I have illwinters world map. How come it does not matter which one, do clients only need the image file?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Clients only need an image file, and both the Torvakian map and the Illwinter map are compatible with all World map files. Since they're compatible TGAs, it doesn't matter which one you have. It's all personal preference.

[Norfleet]

Okay, Tujin has gone with Pangaea. Mivayan is taking R'lyeh, then?

[Argitoth]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
That's what you get for using a crappy router, instead of a proper Linux box!<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heyy, shut up. My router fixed itself and everything is working normally again. I use Linksys.

Umm, I uploaded my pretender

[archaeolept]

I've been really tempted to join, but I've gotta cook dinner and a 6 o'clock start (mountain time zone) is just a little too early.

besides that this map is scary http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

anyways, good luck all.

I'm glad someone's taking a sea nation. Everytime I load up a test game I end up in some little island or outcrop. Except, of course, for the one time I decide to try out "water cult", in which case I started in China...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by archaeolept:
I've been really tempted to join, but I've gotta cook dinner and a 6 o'clock start (mountain time zone) is just a little too early.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So? I'm MST also. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Of course, I don't believe in anything as antiquated as "regular meals". When I feel hungry, I eat. Cooking is kind of bothersome, so I just eat stuff mostly raw. Tastes better anyway.

[Norfleet]

Well, kickoff's in 40 minutes, ladies. Has everyone signed in?

[Argitoth]

do you have ICQ, MSN, AIM, or Yahoo? Or IRC?

It's kinda lame to play a dom2 network blitz game and not have any communication.

[Graeme Dice]

I've uploaded my pretender now.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
do you have ICQ, MSN, AIM, or Yahoo? Or IRC?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nope. But I regularly monitor this forum in-game, so you can post anything you wish to say to me here.

[Norfleet]

Okay, T-5 roll call:

Me: Ermor
Argitoth: C'tis
Tujin: Pangaea
Graeme: Arco
Mivayan: R'lyeh
Truper: Vanheim

Still yet to check in:
Condors: Ulm(?)
Navrunner: Undeclared

Hurry it up, ladies!

[ March 12, 2004, 23:45: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
Hurry it up, ladies! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sexist dead-beat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Norfleet]

And I've sent the start call. Game to begin Real Soon, server op should be starting it now.

[Norfleet]

And we're off!

[navrunner]

I tried to sign in at 1850 but was getting no response from the server.

[ March 13, 2004, 00:03: Message edited by: navrunner ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by navrunner:
I tried to sign in at 1850 but was getting no response from the server. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, there was no interruption as far as I'm aware of, since I was logged in the entire time.

Must have been a router hiccup somewhere out there between you and the server.

Better luck next time!

[Norfleet]

And we are now officially waiting on Argitoth.

[Norfleet]

And so it begins.

[Truper]

And is it ended? Trust Argitoth to say he has to go 2 hours into a monster game...

[Norfleet]

Yep, looks like we're stalled for the night.

Typical. I guess they just don't make 12 year olds like they used to. I figured he'd at LEAST Last until midnight....but they just don't make 'em like they used to.

[Norfleet]

So, time call: What's the earliest everyone here can resume the rumble tomorrow?

[Truper]

Is master password enabled? If it is, I'd say set C'tis to computer control....

Otherwise I can continiue any time tomorrow.

[ March 13, 2004, 02:26: Message edited by: Truper ]

[mivayan]

Any time is fine for me too, as long as we agree on it here.

[Norfleet]

I would, but there are a number of specators looking for a piece of Argitoth, and botting him would deprive the eager fans of this. If he does this again TOMORROW, I'll certainly consider it.

Also, while there is a master password, it's not actually *MY* server, it's being hosted by a third party. So I don't know what it is anyway.

[Norfleet]

Okay, the earliest time Tujin can start is 1400 EST. Is this good for everyone?

[Graeme Dice]

Sure, that time sounds good.

[mivayan]

yes, that is good

[Truper]

Sorry - I should have said any time tomorrow evening. The earliest I'd be able to go would be 1800.

[Norfleet]

So, 1800 EST is currently our earliest start.

Let's see if we can't get it rolling by then.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Truper:
And is it ended? Trust Argitoth to say he has to go 2 hours into a monster game... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think he just weenied out. This way he has an "excuse" for not losing. I'm given to understand that his super-duper pretender has repeatedly died ...

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
I think he just weenied out. This way he has an "excuse" for not losing. I'm given to understand that his super-duper pretender has repeatedly died ... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I doubt it. With his third death so far, he's immortal. Without a doubt a Saurolich, from his behavioral profile and performance characteristics. Dying doesn't hurt.

[Phoenix-D]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Arryn:
I think he just weenied out. This way he has an "excuse" for not losing. I'm given to understand that his super-duper pretender has repeatedly died ... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I doubt it. With his third death so far, he's immortal. Without a doubt a Saurolich, from his behavioral profile and performance characteristics. Dying doesn't hurt. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Funny, whenever I take an immortal in my SP games dying -does- hurt. They come back with battle afflications.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Funny, whenever I take an immortal in my SP games dying -does- hurt. They come back with battle afflications. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Immortals automatically recover from battle afflictions. Besides, do Sauroliches even feel pain? I don't think something that decayed has a functioning nervous system anymore, but who knows? Let's ask Argitoth sometime.

[Truper]

The engagement I thought would be keeping me busy today has been postponed. I can be available at 1400, if there's any chance of gathering the rest of the crew by then.

[mivayan]

that is in.. um... two hours? I can be around then.

[Norfleet]

Excellente. Let's see if we can't gather the crowd.

[Norfleet]

Well, I was able to locate and awaken everyone....except ARGITOTH, who has conveniently skipped the forums and is nowhere to be found. If anyone can find him and scream at him, please do so.

Augh. I can see why Arryn detests him now.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I can see why Arryn detests him now.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm far from being the only one, judging from the Posts I've seen and the PMs I've gotten.

{undisguised flame}
I'm not surprised at this most recent childish and irresponsible behavior, but my dislike actually stems from his rude, obnoxious, and generally annoying forum posting habits. The fact that he's also arrogant, conceited, and downright boorish only adds to his considerably negative charm. To be precise, I do not detest him. I loathe him. A loathing full of utter contempt and disdain. I'm embarrassed to even live in the same country as such an ill-mannered, undereducated lout.
{/undisguised flame}

[Truper]

Arryn, I suggest you read your Last post - and then look in a mirror.

[ March 13, 2004, 18:56: Message edited by: Truper ]

[Norfleet]

Hey, Graeme? Still available? Haven't seen you connected yet. Problems?

edit-oh, there you are.

[ March 13, 2004, 20:04: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[mivayan]

Truper said the following on irc about 2 minutes before argitoth took his turn:
<Truper> welp, as The Revenge doesn't seem to be in imminent danger of starting, i am gonna take a break - bbl

[Norfleet]

Nuts. See if you can't get him back. Somewhere. Where is this IRC you people speak of, anyway?

[Argitoth]

Truper is not on IRC and is not on my buddy list.

[Norfleet]

Well, in about an hour and a half, it'll be The Appointed Time of 1800 anyway. He'll probably show up real soon. Nobody disappear now, y'hear?

edit- frickin' time zones

[ March 13, 2004, 20:27: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Graeme Dice]

Nevermind.

[ March 14, 2004, 02:56: Message edited by: Graeme Dice ]

[Argitoth]

Screw this, I quit.

[ March 16, 2004, 12:39: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

[mivayan]

Thanks for a good game argitoth. I dont think I managed to kill a single sauromancer despite destroying big parts of your empire.

I am out for today, lets continue tomorrow.

[Truper]

My best guess as to my 1st availabilty tomorrow is 2000 EST...

[Norfleet]

Okay, Tujin is, unfortunately, working 1700-2300 EST tomorrow.

The alternatives are that we start relatively late for the EST-siders, or we call a long break to ponder over our next moves at length, and see what everyone's Monday looks like.

[Argitoth]

You managed to kill 2 or 3.

[ March 16, 2004, 12:38: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

[Graeme Dice]

I have a bunch of work to do tomorrow, so it might be best to wait for a while. If possible, we could set it up as a daily game until we have time to go crazy again. I know that I don't want to give up just when I'm starting to get involved in the wars.

[Norfleet]

No problem. We can leave the game kinda cruising on Quickhost until we can orchestrate a mass-gathering.

So, no official gametime tomorrow, then, just drop by and take your turn whenever.

What's everyone's Monday look like?

[Graeme Dice]

My weekdays are really busy, since I have to devote that time to my research.

[Norfleet]

So, how's about we cruise at quickhost until next Friday, then continue the bloodbath in force?

[Truper]

Sounds good to me.

[Norfleet]

Welp, now the next turn will come with the Mivayanian Empire has moved.

[Norfleet]

The Revenge continues to await the return of the Mivayan. I don't suppose anyone's seen him anywhere? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[mivayan]

I took my turn.

[Norfleet]

After a brief server crash, the Revenge is up again and awaiting turn 56.

[Norfleet]

The following have yet to take turn 56:
Pangaea, Vanheim, and R'lyeh.

[Norfleet]

Now we're just waiting on Truper before turn 57.

[Truper]

Turn 57 is up.

[Norfleet]

Turn 58 is now waiting on the Mivayanian Empire.

[Norfleet]

Turn 58 is now up.

[Norfleet]

Well, the weekend draws nigh, Truper is apparently on the server taking his turn now, and Mivayan for some reason didn't take his next turn along with the turn we were waiting for. Maybe he's waiting for something?

Anyway, the game resumes in force on Friday, like Last time: What's the earliest everyone can show?

[mivayan]

I'll think about it for a day or so, but I might drop out before the long friday night game.

[Norfleet]

Won't be able to make it, or planning to wimp out? If it's a scheduling problem, we may be able to work around that. But remembers: Quitters never win, winners never quit.

[Truper]

Anytime on Friday should be good for me. I'll work around others...

[Norfleet]

Now all that remains before turn 59 is for the Truperian Empire and Tujish Empires to send in their moves.

[Norfleet]

Now the Tujish Empire is all that remains to take its turn.

[Norfleet]

Turn 59 is due very imminently, since Tujin is in the process of completing his turn as I write this. This is almost like Christmas!

[Norfleet]

Turn 59 is here. Let's all take our turns now.

[Norfleet]

Turn 60 is now waiting on the Mivayanian and Truperian Empires. I'm assuming Truper will complete his turn momentarily, since he's still on the server, so we'll be waiting mostly on Mivayan, though.

The earliest we should be able to begin on Friday is ~1600 EST, when Tujin returns. Is this time acceptable to everyone?

[Graeme Dice]

The earliest I could make it is probably 1800-1830 EST.

[Norfleet]

1800 EST it is, then.

Unless, of course, Mivayan's schedule looks even worse...

[ March 18, 2004, 01:46: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Norfleet]

Awwright, turn 60. Let's get started!

[mivayan]

Won't be able to make it, or planning to wimp out? I <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wimping out. Turns out I dont enjoy staying up all night to think hard as much as I had thought. Might have been a misstake to join another marathon game with people living 6 timezones west of me.

I'll stick to smaller maps for multiplayer in the future where I dont run out of ideas before finding the enemy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Norfleet - judging from the powers your mad priest Gobrusius got when he blessed himself, you started with 10 in all magic paths. He got ALL the bless powers. Is this a special power of mad priests or a bug?

[ March 18, 2004, 18:48: Message edited by: mivayan ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by mivayan:
Norfleet - judging from the powers your mad priest Gobrusius got when he blessed himself, you started with 10 in all magic paths. He got ALL the bless powers. Is this a special power of mad priests or a bug? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Really? Let me watch that again. I know I have all 10 magic paths NOW, after extensive wish madness, but I certainly didn't start with that, that would be impossible.

[Norfleet]

Yeah, I see it too. Either it's a mad priest thing, or a weird bug. I'll have to start watching my mad priests more closely, see if this happens in other games and battles.

Unfortunately, Gobrusius is dead now, so I guess I won't be seeing any MORE from him, thanks to you. Although now I know who killed him and Trakhtor! You bastard!

OH, GOBRUSIUS! I PINE FOR YOU!
You will be avenged!

[ March 18, 2004, 19:07: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Norfleet]

Well, now we're just waiting on the Graemish Empire, as the Tujish Empire should upload soon, as I'm speaking to him right now.

[Norfleet]

And it appears Turn 61 is upon us. yay us.

If there are no complaints, tomorrow we will begin in force at 1800 EST.

[mivayan]

Ctis just attacked me with a celestial serveant leading a bunch of celestial soldiers (t'ien ch'i national summons), and he didn't wish for them. Odd.

[Norfleet]

Those must have been the Celestial Apostates, a mercenary company. Given that they are no longer on the mercenary board, I'm going to have to assume that they are now KIA.

[Norfleet]

The game is currently waiting on the Tujish and Truperian Empires.

Actually, you know, I find this kind of pace somewhat relaxing. If anyone(such as Mivayan) doesn't feel like going on a 5-hour gruelathon for the night, feel free to call a break after maybe 2 or 3 hours, and we can continue plodding along like this. It helps me write my AAR submissions, not to mention I can spend all day psychoanalyzing you all for what you'll do next. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ March 19, 2004, 03:10: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Norfleet]

Now we're just waiting for Truper, which will probably be the Last turn before we kick off the weekend sessions.

[Kelan]

If you try to limit it to 2-3 hour sessions for the next game, I think I can make it. I still haven't tried the world map, though. I guess I better try that out tonight and this weekend to make sure my download of the map worked and to get a little familiar with it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

For purpose of planning the next game, if you get one going, I am available from 1700 to 2200 EST weekdays, and 0800 to 2000 EST on weekends. I would still like to limit the game sessions to 2-3 hours a day though if possible.

[Truper]

I doubt there will be a weekend session - the living nations have concluded that you just can't fight free troops on this scale. While I killed 500 carrion... things over the past few turns, that wasn't really accomplishing anything. I doubt I've had 500 troops over the entire course of the game...

I learned a few things, and had fun, but I've concluded that the world map is just too limiting. And hats off to Norfleet and Tuijin - their strategy for the conditions is perfect, and in fact, in my opinion, undefeatable.

Obligatory excuse from a loser: remind me to ask for a restart when the order bug hits at the beginning of a monster game - when one puts 200 nation design points into order and growth, and doen't get full benefit from it from turns 2 through 21, ones trajectory is severely impaired...

[Norfleet]

Well, like the saying goes, it ain't over till the fat lady sings. Free carrion things are probably not as great as you'd believe: You have, after all, killed them by the hundreds, without even deliberately trying to exploit their weaknesses.

Ultimately, death is the bride of the warrior.

[mivayan]

Ok, I am giving up, went computer controlled.

At least I got to almost kill one other player http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I really should stick to smaller maps.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Kelan:
For purpose of planning the next game, if you get one going, I am available from 1700 to 2200 EST weekdays, and 0800 to 2000 EST on weekends. I would still like to limit the game sessions to 2-3 hours a day though if possible. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good to know. I'm thinking of planning the next game with a marathon weekend for kickoff(because everyone knows the start of a game flies quickly and is drudgerous otherwise, with nothing to fiddle with), followed by lapsing into quickhost on 2-3 turns a day.

In the meantime, barring complications, it looks like the Revenge will continue its course tonight, for what may be the final showdown. Or something.

[Norfleet]

Well, we got about 10 minutes go. Hope everyone who's still with us shows.