View Full Version : MP Game - Yet another MP newbie game!
Huzurdaddi
May 22nd, 2004, 10:34 PM
So I'd like to start another newbie game.
House Rules
1) Only Human pretenders (ie: 10 points for a new magic path --- hmm I wonder if there is a non-human with 10 points for a new path )
2) No clams. At all. Zip.
Game settings:
Map: Karan by Targa ( http://www.illwinter.com/dom2/maps.html )
Independents Strength:9
Special Sites: 55
Score graphs: disabled.
I'd like to use the dominions2 server at ( https://www.mosehansen.dk/cgi-bin/dom2.pl ).
Game name : Newbues_Unite. Port: 2246.
The game is set for quick hosting with a 24 hour period. Hopefully so long as everyone is on the ball we will get much faster turn around time than 24 hours ( but **** happens some times I understand ).
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So far we have
Pythium -- me
Abysia -- SoapyFrog
Vaneheim -- CheezeNinja
Ermor -- JJ_Colorado
Caelum -- Skolem
Ulm -- Yvelina
C'tis -- Balmoth
Marignon -- vigabrand
Man -- Minrhael
Arcoscephale -- Cohen
T'ien Chi -- MrAres
Mictain -- odd_enough
Jotunheim -- Splooger
Ulm -- SlyFrog ** This is a little problem **
Machaka -- Wyxard
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[ June 01, 2004, 16:49: Message edited by: Zen ]
Huzurdaddi
May 22nd, 2004, 10:34 PM
I'll try Pythium.
Soapyfrog
May 22nd, 2004, 10:49 PM
Put me down for Abysia!
Norfleet
May 22nd, 2004, 11:06 PM
I take it that this game is also for newbies, and not for me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Huzurdaddi
May 22nd, 2004, 11:10 PM
LOL
it is exacly not for you!
LOL
Maybe in a few games ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Huzurdaddi
May 22nd, 2004, 11:14 PM
Although I am attempting to weasle as many of your tricks as I can out of you.
So far it I've gotten:
1) spam a lot of castles. The cheaper the better.
2) Death summons rock the house. Make a lot of those ( weirdly I see you playing a lot of caelum ... I don't really get it but it may be due to #3 )
3) Raid your balls off. Province defence ain't worth jack. If you see a temple somewhere burn it down and take the province defence with it and then move.
4) But this is from other players, blood summons rock as well in particular devils.
5) take some misfortune once you take order ( this one makes a lot of sense ).
What I do not know is how you expand versus strong indeps without a SC pretender at the start of the game ... ahem if you want to devulge that information I would really appreciate it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
[ May 22, 2004, 22:28: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
Norfleet
May 22nd, 2004, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
1) spam a lot of castles. The cheaper the better.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Castle-spamming is synergistic with my strategies, because I tend to defend against attack with teleporting or flying SCs, and need to protect my temples against point 3.
2) Death summons rock the house. Make a lot of those ( weirdly I see you playing a lot of caelum ... I don't really get it but it may be due to #3 )<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Death Summons are indeed very nice. Bane Lords are excellent pocket-SCs, and Behemoths are an excellent unit for stomping most normal troops, albeit Caelum does not really need this option.
I play a lot of Caelum in part because of #3, and because Caelum has excellent point-defense capability in the form of their flying Seraphs...and wrathful sky. If I can't be bothered to dispatch an SC to the scene of another disturbance, a Seraph Wrathing/Horror Spamming squad can clean out most normal armies just fine, for they are flammable and conduct electricity: The only thing that gives you problems is stuff that moves really fast, and you alleviate this by throwing something beefy in front to absorb the brunt of the charge....such as lightning immune SCs and thugs.
3) Raid your balls off. Province defence ain't worth jack. If you see a temple somewhere burn it down and take the province defence with it and then move.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">A sound plan. A temple that isn't protected by a castle is a temple that is asking to be torched.
4) But this is from other players, blood summons rock as well in particular devils.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Blood summons own hard. It's for this reason I am very fond of Mictlan as well, and often incorporate blood into my game plan for Caelum.
What I do not know is how you expand versus strong indeps without a SC pretender at the start of the game ... ahem if you want to devulge that information I would really appreciate it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nations with hard-hitting, low-attrition troop options are best here: Caelumian mammoths do a good job against anything-that-isn't-knights, able to smash most independents with minimal losses...although it does always hurt if you lose a mammoth: Those things are expensive. Their excellent archers can help whittle down opponents as well.
Mictlan, while its national troops are abysmally awful, has the excellent and quite hard-hitting Fiends of Darkness starting spell, which can easily take out most provinces with a mere handful, say, 5-8. With a few more, even clearing out knights is a possibility: The fiends do a very good job at eviscerating the offending leaders, causing the enemies to rout instantly.
Vanheim has excellent national units as well, in the Vans, and a party of Vans can easily clear out anything that doesn't contain an undue number of knights or crossbowmans without any losses whatsoever. With a strong blessing, even taking on knights is within easy reach.
What I tend to avoid are high-attrition rate troops: Having to constantly replace slackers that regularly die on you is annoying and expensive....and it just underscores the annoying uselessness of those troops, that they keep DYING on you. Miserable weaklings. Pah.
Cheezeninja
May 23rd, 2004, 12:39 AM
I'd like to play as Vanheim. If possible id choose a mosehansen host with a 24 hour turnaround. I work 12 hour shifts on the days that i work and that can make a 12 hour turnaround tricky to handle.
Huzurdaddi
May 23rd, 2004, 12:48 AM
Seraphs...and wrathful sky.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ah yes I should have remembered THE PERFECT STORM. Yes it does seem quite abusive! Saly I haev never done it ( sniff ).
Horror Spamming squad
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I take it your mean spamming False Horror ( Alteration 6 ) ... if not what do you mean!
and often incorporate blood into my game plan for Caelum.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where do you get the blood from? Sages? They are how I get access to it with Pythium usually, but it's not a great path since you can not control it.
Their excellent archers can help whittle down opponents as well.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">10 gold, 4 resources. Nice cost!
Mictlan, while its national troops are abysmally awful
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You aint kidding. Bleech.
hard-hitting Fiends of Darkness
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How do you get the 30-40 blood to get this going? From your home province? How long does this take to setup?
Vanheim has excellent national units as well, in the Vans
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heck I think that they are borked. With a water blessing they are terrors. With a fire+anything ( let's say fire ) they are insane.
Miserable weaklings. Pah.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And here I use pythium. *sigh* I liked them since their troops are soild and their mages are solid, perhaps even powerful. But they realyl don't save any insanity on their side. *sigh*
I mean in the multiplayer game I am in I am sandwitched between Jotunheim and Vanheim and it is turn 11. Vanheim has expanded so fast ( indep strength 10 and he has at least 6 provinces ) I'm quite sure he is using blessed vans. And Jotunheim has expanded almost equally as fast ( although I really don't know how yet, they do have a great mother which leads me to think that he is using a bless strategy and the army next to me has woodmen which furthers my beleif -- I guess it is mother trample + bless ). I see no way for me to take on either of them at this point it's scarry!
Norfleet
May 23rd, 2004, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
I take it your mean spamming False Horror ( Alteration 6 ) ... if not what do you mean!<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's what I meant, yes. They spam horrors to clog the way while everyone gets electrocuted.
Where do you get the blood from? Sages? They are how I get access to it with Pythium usually, but it's not a great path since you can not control it.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I can hunt them on scouts, it just takes a lot of scouts to get rolling. Also a High Seraph with a blood random can do some hunts or forge SDRs, also.
How do you get the 30-40 blood to get this going? From your home province? How long does this take to setup?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I slap my starting troops on patrol and hunt the blood with my starting priest and the others I produce. Takes about 5-6 turns to get rolling with a FoD horde, about the same time it would take to get rolling with, say, the SC VQ.
And here I use pythium. *sigh* I liked them since their troops are soild and their mages are solid, perhaps even powerful. But they realyl don't save any insanity on their side. *sigh* <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Pythium's troops are solid, but slightly costly in resources, which prevents you from building them in very large numbers at once. They're not awe-inspiring enough to work well in small Groups like Vans do, so all in all, I consider them to be slightly subpar. And they die too easily, not like Jots, particularly blessed or equipped Jots.
I mean in the multiplayer game I am in I am sandwitched between Jotunheim and Vanheim and it is turn 11. Vanheim has expanded so fast ( indep strength 10 and he has at least 6 provinces ) I'm quite sure he is using blessed vans. And Jotunheim has expanded almost equally as fast ( although I really don't know how yet, they do have a great mother which leads me to think that he is using a bless strategy and the army next to me has woodmen which furthers my beleif -- I guess it is mother trample + bless ). I see no way for me to take on either of them at this point it's scarry! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Jotunheimian troops are solid without blessings, and Woodsmen can be quite potent with a good bless, particularly an N, and maybe E, bless, which gives them decent regeneration, berserking, and/or prot and reinvigoration. They're no slouches.
Pythium, however, as a mage nation, is relatively weak early on: Their troops are not really that impressive, being solid, but straightforward - They lack the flexibility of Caelumian troops and don't have anything they're tailored to work amazingly well against.
However, as I have a strong preference for races that are "different", I have little advice to offer on this matter, as Pythium's troops are very vanilla and standard.
Soapyfrog
May 23rd, 2004, 03:01 AM
*Frantically flipping through reams of documentation*
Oh my god I am going to get thoroughly crushed aren't I?
*Leans over and sobs gently on the shoulder of a nearby Lava Warrior*
Huzurdaddi
May 23rd, 2004, 03:22 AM
Takes about 5-6 turns to get rolling with a FoD horde, about the same time it would take to get rolling with, say, the SC VQ.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What the heck do you lead your summon troops with when you are playing mictain? Abysia has those nice, heck terrific, demonbred.
But mictain has ... uhm ... priests? Yokies. Slow *and* crushable via ranged. I mean they are soo well setup too. The super Mictain priest, cheap, sacred, and effective. The tribal king perfectly made to keep the people in line. But no leaders! YOKIES.
I mean I guess you could go the death route ( since they have some excellent early leaders ) but ... uhm .. where do you get the gems?
The only leaders that are summonable with blood are up at tech 5 unless I am mistaken. That's a long time to wait. There has to be a way, they are sooooo good.
Oh my god I am going to get thoroughly crushed aren't I?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not by me! I'm playing Pythium! No blood or death for me! I'd watch out for CheezeNinja though he looks tricky. And he is playing Vanheim with those tricky Vans ... scarry.
Norfleet
May 23rd, 2004, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
What the heck do you lead your summon troops with when you are playing mictain? Abysia has those nice, heck terrific, demonbred.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Any priest other than the regular Mictlan Priest, generally Priest King or Sun Priest: Put them in the back: Indies only fire at the closest target, which, if you're thinking straight, will be the FoDs. Since FoDs are tough, damage caused upon them is minimal....and then they eviscerate the offending archers.
The regular priests have a disadvantage in that they run out of useful spells to cast, then decide it would be a sound plan to charge the enemy with a spoon. This definitely will get them killed, plus they can't lead very many FoDs anyway.
This is very useful because the offending commanders are often right next to the offending archers, and neither the archers nor the commanders tend to move very quickly, and tend to be laggards to boot, the FoDs eviscerate the archers, the priest commanders huddling inside the archer pack, and then turn on the nearest target.....the regular field commanders staying behind their troops.
So the commanders get quickly eviscerated by the FoDs as well, and the battle is over as the indies all rout due to the deaths of their commanders.
But mictain has ... uhm ... priests? Yokies. Slow *and* crushable via ranged. I mean they are soo well setup too. The super Mictain priest, cheap, sacred, and effective. The tribal king perfectly made to keep the people in line. But no leaders! YOKIES.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The poor strategic mobility of the priests is not a major problem at this stage in the game because you're expanding province-to-province anyway. Furthermore, the higher-level Mictlan priests can then search/build/reinforce on the move, and as the higher-ranking priests are all capitol-only, this also serves to get them out to the edges of the empire where they can perform more powerful sacrifices.
As for tech level 5, that's not as hard to reach as you'd think, even for the relatively poor researchers of Mictlan.
[ May 23, 2004, 02:56: Message edited by: Norfleet ]
Soapyfrog
May 23rd, 2004, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
Abysia has those nice, heck terrific, demonbred.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Right... Demonbred. Terrific. Check.
*Takes exhaustive notes*
[ May 23, 2004, 05:20: Message edited by: Soapyfrog ]
Norfleet
May 23rd, 2004, 06:34 AM
The demonbred are great, but not available under Blood of Humans, which is a far superior blood nation than base Abysia: Basic Abysia has problems with lacking a good, widely deployable, cheap blood hunter.
JJ_Colorado
May 23rd, 2004, 07:04 AM
Huzurdaddi,
I'd like to get in as Ermor.
Btw, the Mosehansen server is a great idea. I wish that I'd known how to use it for the game that we're in. PBEM is a huge hassle.
--John
[ May 23, 2004, 06:46: Message edited by: JJ_Colorado ]
Skolem
May 23rd, 2004, 10:21 AM
Hi, I would like to join as caelum, but I will be at a colloquium next week, thursday and friday, if we could make a pause then I would join. I dont know how to use the mosehansen server, so if you could explain.
skolem
Skolem
May 23rd, 2004, 10:33 AM
I forgot, only human pretender or only 10 pt path pretenders?
Huzurdaddi
May 23rd, 2004, 05:14 PM
I forgot, only human pretender or only 10 pt path pretenders?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I guess the Arch Seraph is ok. I hope I don't get burned by that!
I dont know how to use the mosehansen server, so if you could explain.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Never used it myself, but I figure it will be easy enough to figure out once we start. There may be one or two hickups at the start though.
PBEM is a huge hassle.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey you are doing a great job!
You may be able to move our game to the Mosehansen server though, you could ask the site admin. And if so we could even have more than one turn a day
Huzurdaddi
May 23rd, 2004, 05:28 PM
Blood of Humans, which is a far superior blood nation than base Abysia: Basic Abysia has problems with lacking a good, widely deployable, cheap blood hunter.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">True enough. Not being able to recruit any bloodmage what so ever outside of your home province is crushing.
Soapyfrog
May 23rd, 2004, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Norfleet:
The demonbred are great, but not available under Blood of Humans, which is a far superior blood nation than base Abysia: Basic Abysia has problems with lacking a good, widely deployable, cheap blood hunter. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But, but... what about the Lava Warrior?
Huzurdaddi
May 23rd, 2004, 11:19 PM
The guardian of the pyre looks comparable.
Hmmm ... looks like we only have 5 people.
Well hope springs eternal that others will join!
Yvelina
May 24th, 2004, 02:36 AM
Given that Vanheim is taken, I would like to play Ulm. By the way, are ***** Queens allowed? They are ten point pretenders, and they are human, despite being cursed with lycantropy.
Huzurdaddi
May 24th, 2004, 03:16 AM
Given that Vanheim is taken, I would like to play Ulm. By the way, are ***** Queens allowed? They are ten point pretenders, and they are human, despite being cursed with lycantropy.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well crud. Doesn't that suck. She's kind of more powerful than the normal "human" type pretenders isn't she. If we let her in we are going down a slippery slope. Not that we haven't already by allowing the Arch Seraph.
Jeeze.
Well I guess it is ok. Damn it. She's clearly better than the other human pretenders and she costs very little extra. Well I hope I do not regret this. I just don't want to "screw" Vanehiem after he has picked his race.
Norfleet
May 24th, 2004, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by Skolem:
I forgot, only human pretender or only 10 pt path pretenders? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There's an interesting thing between "human" and 10-pt pretenders: 10-pt pretenders include the currently bugged Skratti and Great Warlock, but humans include the Mictlan "Smoking Mirror", which is a 20-pt chassis.
Zapmeister
May 24th, 2004, 07:10 AM
Hmmm ... looks like we only have 5 people.
Well hope springs eternal that others will join!<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I wouldn't mind playing. I'm not a newbie but, on the other hand, I never play SP (not even test games) so my total number of playing hours is quite small relative to most of the vets around here.
Balmoth
May 24th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
Hmmm ... looks like we only have 5 people.
Well hope springs eternal that others will join! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well I would Like to join as C'tis.
Huzurdaddi
May 24th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Well I would Like to join as C'tis.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You are in.
Well, I wouldn't mind playing. I'm not a newbie but, on the other hand, I never play SP
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well I can understand not playing SP the computer does not really play an exciting game. But ... uhm ... how non-newbie are we talking about here? And if you are not that new to the game would it really be a lot of fun to play against incompetent boobs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ?
major^3
May 24th, 2004, 07:02 PM
i will take man if possible.
email is in my profile ir drop by #dominions
Norfleet
May 24th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Major...I don't think you count as a newbie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
Huzurdaddi
May 24th, 2004, 11:44 PM
Major...I don't think you count as a newbie.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So I guess you are saying he would own us hard... that's not so good!
Norfleet
May 24th, 2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
So I guess you are saying he would own us hard... that's not so good! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, he'd BETTER. Otherwise I'll be very disappointed in his complete failure to learn anything from the numerous assbeatings I have given him. Nobody who's played against me that many times is a newbie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
Zapmeister
May 25th, 2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
Well, I wouldn't mind playing. I'm not a newbie but, on the other hand, I never play SP
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well I can understand not playing SP the computer does not really play an exciting game. But ... uhm ... how non-newbie are we talking about here? And if you are not that new to the game would it really be a lot of fun to play against incompetent boobs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I hardly ever win, but I have played a fair bit of MP, so I might win against a field of total newbies. No problem, I'll sit out.
Huzurdaddi
May 25th, 2004, 05:11 AM
I hardly ever win, but I have played a fair bit of MP, so I might win against a field of total newbies. No problem, I'll sit out.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well heck. Since you are being so honest I guess I have to accept you now. What race do you want?
Zapmeister
May 25th, 2004, 06:02 AM
Great! How about Machaka? (I've never played them before).
Huzurdaddi
May 25th, 2004, 07:44 AM
Sold. You are the proud owner of a spider empire.
Zapmeister
May 25th, 2004, 08:46 AM
OK, I've made a pretender. What now?
vigabrand
May 25th, 2004, 04:41 PM
I'd like to take Marignon, I didn't see it claimed.
vig
Huzurdaddi
May 25th, 2004, 07:22 PM
OK, I've made a pretender. What now?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Waiting for about 10 people or so. And then I'll start up the server on mosehansen. I wonder if I'll mess it up at 1st!
I'd like to take Marignon, I didn't see it claimed.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sold.
major^3
May 26th, 2004, 05:52 AM
im a total n00b! lol i can count the number of times i have played MP on one hand http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
Huzurdaddi
May 26th, 2004, 05:28 PM
Sorry major.
[ June 01, 2004, 02:00: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
major^3
May 26th, 2004, 05:38 PM
ah well, it is your game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
have fun
Huzurdaddi
May 28th, 2004, 02:19 AM
Bump, Bump, Bump ...
Looking for one more player!
Cheezeninja
May 28th, 2004, 11:54 PM
Bump, set, SPIKE!
Minrhael
May 30th, 2004, 10:26 AM
I've played a fair amount of SP, but only 1 1/2 games MP (the first of which I lost almost immediately and the other which seems to have stalled at turn 49), so if that counts as newbie enough I'll take the Last spot as Man (I think it's not taken, if it is I'll play whatever).
Huzurdaddi
May 30th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Okie dokie then .. I'll start up the server in a little bit.
Huzurdaddi
May 30th, 2004, 05:43 PM
I started a game "Newbies Unite" on mosehansen.
I can't connect to it ( yet? ). I'm guessing that it takes time to warm up ... or something!
Oh and I changed the magic frequency to 60 from 55 since 55 seemed like a goofy number to me. I probably should have gone for 50 ot 75, but oh well.
Note: Do not forget to put a password on your pretender!
[ May 30, 2004, 16:44: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
Cohen
May 30th, 2004, 06:18 PM
I'd like to take Abysya ...
Well, it's possibile to use instead of an Human, a Immobile (Blood Fountain or Oracle or Divine Glyph)???
Huzurdaddi
May 30th, 2004, 06:36 PM
I'd like to take Abysya ...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Doh. Already taken please see the 1st post I have arranged all people who have signed up.
Well, it's possibile to use instead of an Human, a Immobile (Blood Fountain or Oracle or Divine Glyph)???
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I would say "yes" but I understand that they can be used with teleport ( somehow ) to be formidable SC's ( ok not really formidable, but better than humans ). So I would have to say no, unless I am totally mistaken.
Cohen
May 30th, 2004, 06:45 PM
Oks, I'll go for Arco.
Huzurdaddi
May 30th, 2004, 07:14 PM
Sold.
Teraswaerto
May 30th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
I would say "yes" but I understand that they can be used with teleport ( somehow ) to be formidable SC's ( ok not really formidable, but better than humans ). So I would have to say no, unless I am totally mistaken. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oracle or the Blood Fountain can hardly be called SCs no matter what they do. They have no melee ability, and a mage casting teleport doesn't take bodyguards (or any other troops) with it. Using them in such a way would be disadvantageous, and almost certainly result in them getting killed. No better than a human in any case.
Cohen
May 30th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Well I manage to take out Indy 6 provinces with Human pretenders, const 2 (especially for a pendant of luck and the robe of missile protection), and some other spell buffs.
Zapmeister
May 31st, 2004, 12:27 AM
My apologies - I'm withdrawing from the game.
A bad case of Dominions burn-out, I'm afraid.
Huzurdaddi
May 31st, 2004, 02:40 AM
Bummer dude. Well if anyone wants to join please post!
[ May 31, 2004, 03:07: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
ioticus
May 31st, 2004, 04:58 AM
Can I join?
Huzurdaddi
May 31st, 2004, 06:54 AM
Can I join?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you a MP noob? Have you played fewer than 2 or 3 multiplayer games ( game with pals don't really count, game with random people on the internet do! ).
If so tell us what race you want and I'll put you down!
MrAres
May 31st, 2004, 07:21 AM
I'd like to play. haven't played Online yet, and i spose this one sounds like a good one to start in. I'd like to play as T'ien Ch'i.
Tumba
May 31st, 2004, 08:38 AM
Can I still join?
Total n00b. Played no MP Dominions games before...
Doesn't matter which race I play. I'll take any free one, since I probably will be hacked to pieces in no time anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
Would be happier playing a PBEM game since 12h/turn is a bit too fast for me (I've got a life, even if I somtimes wish I hadn't http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . (Anybody trade wives? I need one that understands the glory of gaming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ))
I'd be even happier if there was a PBEM game using PBEM helper, but that is probably too much to wish...
Skolem
May 31st, 2004, 09:40 AM
Hi
I see that the game is listed in mosehansen but i don't understand how i post my god http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif , could you please reveal the great mysteries of this server? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
skolem aka trueskolem
Minrhael
May 31st, 2004, 11:52 AM
Well, if you're using XP, you do the following:
Create a shortcut to Dominions2 on your desktop. Right-click this shortcut and select properties. In the target box, change it to the following:
"C:\Program Files\dominions2\dom2.exe" --tcpclient --ipadr dom2.mosehansen.dk --port 2246 --clickvol 0
This assumes you installed the game in the default directory; if not then change "C:\program files\dominions2\dom2.exe" to wherever your dom2.exe file is located. The --tcpclient tells it that you're joining a multiplayer game; after the --ipadr you put the address of the server; after --port you put the port #. The line above is correct for this game. (The --clickvol 0 just turns off the mouse clicking sound, you can leave that part of the line out if you want to hear the mouse clicks drive you insane) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Then you just make your pretender like you would as if you were going to play a single player game. When your pretender is ready, exit the game and click that shortcut to connect to the mosehansen game, and you will see a list of nations to choose from. The spot next to your nation should say open; click it and it will change to human controlled, then click disconnect and you've uploaded your pretender. If it already says human controlled then someone else took your spot, you'll have to come back here to clear it up. In the future just click the shortcut to take your turns.
If you're running something other than xp (well, that probably works for all windows, except perhaps the location of the game) then someone else will have to give you the proper commands. Hopefully that's all correct, it's really past bedtime here!
Skolem
May 31st, 2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Minrhael:
Create a shortcut to Dominions2 on your desktop. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">First thanks a lot, actually, after some thinking, i managed to join the game, but I doesn't know there was such shortcuts, I'm using Mac OS 10.3 does anyone know where I could find how to build these shortcuts?
thanks
Skolem
odd_enuf
May 31st, 2004, 04:05 PM
I'll join up as mitchtan. This will be my 4rth Online game, and only 1 of my other games have reached the poitn where i'm fighting other nations.
odd_enuf
ioticus
May 31st, 2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
Can I join?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you a MP noob? Have you played fewer than 2 or 3 multiplayer games ( game with pals don't really count, game with random people on the internet do! ).
If so tell us what race you want and I'll put you down! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've never played people before and only played the computer a few times on average difficulty. I'd like Jotun if there's still room available.
Sly Frog
May 31st, 2004, 05:45 PM
I've taken Ulm.
Huzurdaddi
May 31st, 2004, 05:52 PM
MrAres, odd_enough, Splooger, SlyFrog
You are all in. I put you all down.
Tumba -- I'm probably going to set it to 24 hours but with quick host. Hopefully we will get below 12 hours on average.
So Tumba if you want in claim your race from what's left it's filling fast!
Huzurdaddi
May 31st, 2004, 05:57 PM
Two question for people that have used mosehansen before.
1) How the heck do I start up the game ( not that I want to start it now, but when everyone has signed up ).
2) How do I turn off graphs? I like graphs they are cool. But they give information which is a bit too accurate it kind of removes a lot of the reasons for spies. I like having to build a couple of dozen spies to see what the heck is going on in the world.
Huzurdaddi
May 31st, 2004, 08:11 PM
So I made a mistake when SlyFrog said "he took Ulm" I just marked him down without looking over the list. Uhm was taken a while ago by Yvelina.
So I guess the correct thing to do is for SlyFrog to Go anonymous and I will kick him, allowing Yvelina ( who has not said anything about this ... I don't even know if he/she is still around ) to take Ulm.
Sorry about that SlyFrog. There are still a number of nations open though.
[ May 31, 2004, 19:11: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
Huzurdaddi
June 1st, 2004, 03:03 AM
Ok it looks like we have a player who did not register in the forum 1st say hello to Wyxard proud owner of Machaka.
We are waiting on Yvelina and Splooger to start.
Tumba
June 1st, 2004, 08:34 AM
Errr... I messed up? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
While selecting my race on the server I clicked on Atlantis (just being curious since Atlantis and Ermor were the only ones I could select). It's status turned to human control and I couldn't change it back. So I clicked on Ermor to see if the status of Atlantis would change. It didn't. I can see that these were the only races I had created a pretender for. Neither were human, so I couldn't use them in this game. I disconnected and made a human pretender for Joitunheim. Selected Jotunheim on the server, and all is ok with that.
But what about Atlantis and Ermor? How do I disable them or can the host disable them somehow?
Sorry about that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
spacht
June 1st, 2004, 04:09 PM
Is there still a slot left? If so, I would like to play R'lyeh.
Sly Frog
June 1st, 2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
So I made a mistake when SlyFrog said "he took Ulm" I just marked him down without looking over the list. Uhm was taken a while ago by Yvelina.
So I guess the correct thing to do is for SlyFrog to Go anonymous and I will kick him, allowing Yvelina ( who has not said anything about this ... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, that was a long time ago, and the person did not take the slot that was available for several days. I'd rather just keep Ulm, seeing as how the slot was open and the person picking had plenty of time to grab it before I did.
However, if it is a big problem, I'll stand aside. I'd just like to know the person is still interested before we go through the rigamaroll of clearing the slot.
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 01:41 AM
HOLY CRAP.
The game is full!
JEEEEEZE.
Ok I'll be starting it up when I get home ( got to figure out how to do that ... may post on here asking help! ).
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 05:11 AM
Ok before I do it I have to ask:
Do I start the game by hitting "restart"??
Is that how I start the dang thing? I'm really quite scared to do that since it could easily kick everyone off ( and the game is *full* ).
But I see no other UI that would get the game started.
Cheezeninja
June 2nd, 2004, 05:17 AM
Hrmm... it doesnt have a 'start game' button when you connect to the game? It used to give anyone the option to start the game, but that caused unending headaches so he fixed it. I dunno how the host starts now.
ioticus
June 2nd, 2004, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by Minrhael:
Well, if you're using XP, you do the following:
Create a shortcut to Dominions2 on your desktop. Right-click this shortcut and select properties. In the target box, change it to the following:
"C:\Program Files\dominions2\dom2.exe" --tcpclient --ipadr dom2.mosehansen.dk --port 2246 --clickvol 0
This assumes you installed the game in the default directory; if not then change "C:\program files\dominions2\dom2.exe" to wherever your dom2.exe file is located. The --tcpclient tells it that you're joining a multiplayer game; after the --ipadr you put the address of the server; after --port you put the port #. The line above is correct for this game. (The --clickvol 0 just turns off the mouse clicking sound, you can leave that part of the line out if you want to hear the mouse clicks drive you insane) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Then you just make your pretender like you would as if you were going to play a single player game. When your pretender is ready, exit the game and click that shortcut to connect to the mosehansen game, and you will see a list of nations to choose from. The spot next to your nation should say open; click it and it will change to human controlled, then click disconnect and you've uploaded your pretender. If it already says human controlled then someone else took your spot, you'll have to come back here to clear it up. In the future just click the shortcut to take your turns.
If you're running something other than xp (well, that probably works for all windows, except perhaps the location of the game) then someone else will have to give you the proper commands. Hopefully that's all correct, it's really past bedtime here! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I followed your instructions and it worked. Unfortunately it says Jotun is human controlled. How do I get my spot back?
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 05:39 AM
I followed your instructions and it worked. Unfortunately it says Jotun is human controlled. How do I get my spot back?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The website says that you have to country. Is it really you? The only anonymous person is Atlantis.
Anyway.... I'm going to hit "restart game" in about an hour. Hopefully someone will confirm that this is the correct thing to do.
Also I hope that everyone playing has read the rules on the 1st post of this page:
All human pretenders.
NO CLAMS.
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 05:50 AM
Game started.
HoHo. Looks like the game is set up with victory points ( I did this? I did not think so ... but whatever ). So they may mess things up ( a lot ) but not for a while I suppose. Anyway there are 5 ( only 5 ... my god. ). At least they are well spaced apart.
Man if you only need 3 to win .. this is insane. I hope that is not how it is setup.
I did not fill out any of the check boxs with VP. Anyone know what the defaults are? Would be nice if they were in the check boxes so I would have known to pump them to some insane levels ( like 1 vp per province, and then you need like 60% of the provinces to win or something ).
[ June 02, 2004, 04:53: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
ioticus
June 2nd, 2004, 06:01 AM
I didn't know about the human pretender thing. Is there a way to change that? I created another one but the original is in the game.
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 06:38 AM
I didn't know about the human pretender thing. Is there a way to change that? I created another one but the original is in the game.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Super. The game is already started. I do not think it is possible.
Super. Well I don't know what to say, exactly. As I said in the broadcast game in game, please do not EVER leave your home province with your commander.
If you would be so nice as to please post your pretender that would be great to give us some advanatge over you since you clearly violated the rules.
[ June 02, 2004, 05:44: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
Tumba
June 2nd, 2004, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by splooger:
Unfortunately it says Jotun is human controlled. How do I get my spot back? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I took it. Didn't know it was yours. I can step down and leave it to you if it is possible somehow.
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 07:01 AM
I took it. Didn't know it was yours. I can step down and leave it to you if it is possible somehow.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So am I to understand that the god of Jotunheim is actually a human chasis? Tumba, can you log into the game and verify please?
If it is not human then I will probably have to restart the server. All I really care about at this point ( considering that we have 17 people ) is making sure that everyone is following the rules.
[ June 02, 2004, 06:03: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
Cohen
June 2nd, 2004, 07:11 AM
Isn't Karan too small for 17 ppl?
Cheezeninja
June 2nd, 2004, 07:35 AM
that will just make it interesting
Tumba
June 2nd, 2004, 08:10 AM
So am I to understand that the god of Jotunheim is actually a human chasis? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes my Jotun was human. My Atlantis and Ermor weren't. I clicked those by mistake and couldn't remove them.
I just logged in again and found a new race choise list. Are we choosing races anew?
In that case I could make a human pretender for Ermor, since I by mistake took somebody else's Jotun Last time.
Is that ok?
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 08:30 AM
Isn't Karan too small for 17 ppl?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree that will make it interesting. We went from like 9 players to 17 in like two days it was amazing.
Yes my Jotun was human. My Atlantis and Ermor weren't. I clicked those by mistake and couldn't remove them.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And you did not come to the forums and say what you did? JJ has emror. But I don't know if he has the pretender that he wanted. I'll ask him to check his pretender.
Did you check IN GAME to see if your pretender is correct? And am I to understand that Atlantis is actually NOT being played? Jeeeze. Can you AT LEAST join in as atlantis and turn it to computer control??????????????????????????????????
Cheezeninja
June 2nd, 2004, 08:43 AM
I just logged in again and found a new race choise list. Are we choosing races anew?
In that case I could make a human pretender for Ermor, since I by mistake took somebody else's Jotun Last time.
Is that ok? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think your a little confused about whats going on. If you click on one of the races now you will immediately go to that races first turn and start playing, the game has begun.
[ June 02, 2004, 07:46: Message edited by: Cheezeninja ]
Tumba
June 2nd, 2004, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
And you did not come to the forums and say what you did? JJ has emror. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, I did. Immediately. Check the Messages I posted.
Did you check IN GAME to see if your pretender is correct?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">When I try to log in to the game I only get a new list of select pretenders...
And am I to understand that Atlantis is actually NOT being played? Jeeeze.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If I could log in I could play Atlantis, but it's pretender is not human as I said. It was a mistake since I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do. I didn't know how to unselect it.
Can you AT LEAST join in as atlantis and turn it to computer control?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">As I already said, I'd be happy to. But I get this new pretender selection list and I'm very reluctant to click anything on it before I know what is going on (so nothing gets messed up again).
Cheezeninja
June 2nd, 2004, 08:48 AM
im not sure if you can go through and click on multiple teams now. Like if you tried to start atlantis and set to AI... would you be stuck with atlantis or out of the game now? I dont know... i think it would work but im far from sure.
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 08:49 AM
Tumba, CheezeNinja has it right ( except for missing that you have to enter your password ) just click on the empire(s) that you uploaded.
Tumba
June 2nd, 2004, 08:56 AM
I think your a little confused about whats going on. If you click on one of the races now you will immediately go to that races first turn and start playing, the game has begun. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ah, I see. A newbie is a newbie.
Well, if everything has gone as wrong as possible, there's an Atlantis pretender that is not human and a Ermor pretender that is not human and a Jotun pretender that I should not play. Great! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
So If I can access these, please tell me what to do with each of them. Turn Atlantis and Ermor to AI and try to contact the one who wanted Jotun?
[ June 02, 2004, 07:57: Message edited by: Tumba ]
Tumba
June 2nd, 2004, 10:03 AM
Ok. I checked.
I'm not sure what did happen, but it seems that all is in order. Ermor and Jotun are controlled by somebody else not me (I don't know how it happened) and Atlantis is controlled by me.
And the most interesting part is that atlantis has a human pretender, even if I remembered that my Last Atlantis god wasn't one. I must have created one just for testing.
So suprisingly it seems that everything is ok...
Unless I hijacked somebody elses Atlantis, like I thought I did to Ermor and jotun?
ioticus
June 2nd, 2004, 04:24 PM
SO what should I do? I'm in control of Jotun with a non human pretender. Do you want me to post my stats and never leave my castle, or what?
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 04:51 PM
SO what should I do? I'm in control of Jotun with a non human pretender. Do you want me to post my stats and never leave my castle, or what?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Correct. Look you went against the rules. What do you want me to say: "it's ok"??
If you think that this is too harsh then set your nation to computer controlled.
I hope it's not to late to confess that my R'Lyeh pretender isn't a human with 10 Points/Path because there aren't any. But I tried to take the next best thing.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The arch mage is 10 points per path. And it looks like he is human. He has no real advanatge over the freaklord, which is allowed.
Anything else would be bad.
Cheezeninja
June 2nd, 2004, 05:13 PM
The arch mage is 10 points per path. And it looks like he is human. He has no real advanatge over the freaklord, which is allowed. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">He has both advantages and disadvantages. Unlike the freak lord you get a level of water magic for 0 points, along with trample, you also get a third misc item slot. He is however Aquatic and cannot leave the ocean without an amulet of the fish, which he convieniently has a third slot for.
ioticus
June 2nd, 2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
Correct. Look you went against the rules. What do you want me to say: "it's ok
If you think that this is too harsh then set your nation to computer controlled."??<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My pretender is the Son of Niefel. Magic is 5 water, 4 earth and 4 nature. He will stay in his castle. Is that enough info?
spacht
June 2nd, 2004, 05:45 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't notice the archmage guy for R'lyeh. Now I've got the Void Lord with 6 Astral and 3 Water. Is there anything I shall not do with him?
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 07:33 PM
My pretender is the Son of Niefel. Magic is 5 water, 4 earth and 4 nature. He will stay in his castle. Is that enough info?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's fine.
I'm sorry, I didn't notice the archmage guy for R'lyeh. Now I've got the Void Lord with 6 Astral and 3 Water. Is there anything I shall not do with him?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You are constrained to your starting castle. Sorry but that's the way it has to be. The void lord is one of the best SC's in the game ( right up there with the VQ and the AllFather). I'm sorry that you effectivly lose some points that way, but those were the rules.
I'm sorry to be a dick to you guys about this, but both the son of Son of Niefel and the Void Lord are simply way better than any human pretender.
On the plus side given how many people are in the game being a sea nation is going to be a big plus. So you should be ok. Beware of independent strength 9 tritons though!
[ June 02, 2004, 18:34: Message edited by: Huzurdaddi ]
Huzurdaddi
June 2nd, 2004, 07:38 PM
He has both advantages and disadvantages. Unlike the freak lord you get a level of water magic for 0 points, along with trample, you also get a third misc item slot. He is however Aquatic and cannot leave the ocean without an amulet of the fish, which he convieniently has a third slot for.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree with you that he is perhaps the best of the human style pretenders. But he is not *that* much better than a normal human.
However if all human pretenders were this good the gap would be narrower, which is a good thing.
vigabrand
June 3rd, 2004, 12:07 AM
I must also apologize for not following the rules, albeit unintentionally. Somehow, I got the pretender I created from a previous game, not the one I created for this one. I've got Moloch, and I won't leave the castle. Sorry for the mess up.
Vig
spacht
June 3rd, 2004, 01:41 AM
I hope it's not to late to confess that my R'Lyeh pretender isn't a human with 10 Points/Path because there aren't any. But I tried to take the next best thing.
Tumba
June 3rd, 2004, 07:25 AM
Being a newbie, I have a newbie question (suprise suprice).
What is the infamous Clam everybody is talking about? Should I bring my oyster knife?
ioticus
June 3rd, 2004, 05:31 PM
Please note that depending on my work schedule I won't be able to post a turn for 2-3 days at times. For example, since I'm working the next 3 days, I won't be able to post again until this Sunday.
Huzurdaddi
June 3rd, 2004, 06:55 PM
Being a newbie, I have a newbie question (suprise suprice).
What is the infamous Clam everybody is talking about? Should I bring my oyster knife?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's a magic item. Clam of Pearls, Consruction 2, requires water 2 to create and 10 water gems. It creates 1 astral pearl/turn thereafter.
Some people with a mathematical mind realized that this could create exponetial growth, applied that theory to the game, and found that indeed they got it with destabilizing effects. So they are out!
Tumba
June 4th, 2004, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
[QB] [QUOTE]
It's a magic item. Clam of Pearls,
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok, I've seen it. Just didn't realize it could be misused. Seemed quite harmless to me.
Thank you.
[Hurries back to the lab with an evil grin on his face...]
[ June 04, 2004, 05:58: Message edited by: Tumba ]
Regen
June 6th, 2004, 02:06 PM
So is Jotun not playing? Seen a couple turns now where he seems to have auto-played .........
ioticus
June 7th, 2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Regen:
So is Jotun not playing? Seen a couple turns now where he seems to have auto-played ......... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Does the computer play my turn when I can't play a turn? Like I stated below, I've been unable to post for a few days. What is autoplay??
Esben Mose Hansen
June 7th, 2004, 10:11 AM
When you do not take your turn, it is equivalent of taking a turn without doing anything. At all. So if you had queued recruiting at castles, those proceed, but all your armies will just sit there.
Tumba
June 7th, 2004, 02:35 PM
Should we upgrade to the new 2.12 patch?
ioticus
June 7th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
When you do not take your turn, it is equivalent of taking a turn without doing anything. At all. So if you had queued recruiting at castles, those proceed, but all your armies will just sit there. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So how do I know what the time limit is before I have to take my turn? In other words, how do I avoid skipping a turn without doing anything?
Tumba
June 8th, 2004, 06:20 PM
Help!
What's happening. I haven't been able to login to the game today! What's up?
Esben Mose Hansen
June 8th, 2004, 08:34 PM
Your game is probably down due to the upgrade. It will be up again soon, I'm guessing.
The server is now at 2.12
The number of minutes to the next turn is on the welcome page for all the games where you haven't taken your turn.
Soapyfrog
October 19th, 2004, 12:12 AM
Well I have encountered an interesting bug.
For the Last two turns, one of the many troop summons I am doing shows up as a commander, with VL magic paths (3D 3B)... 1st was a storm demon, then an iron dragon:
www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/plaguesinger.jpg (http://www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/plaguesinger.jpg)
www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/plaguestorm.jpg (http://www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/plaguestorm.jpg)
Then I summon an arch devil. not only does Furcas answer the call, but I get a 2nd Arch-Devil with stats and picture identical to Furcas, named Gravesoul:
www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/twodevils.jpg (http://www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/twodevils.jpg)
Mystified, I equip Furcas, and then go check out Gravesoul only to discover that he has "inherited" the exact same equipment, including two artifacts.
www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/gravesoul.jpg (http://www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/gravesoul.jpg)
Both devils have identical equipment, no matter what I put on them. They can be individually selected and moved, although the turn has not hosted yet so I do not know what this will do to the game. They can individually have troops assigned to them without problem.
This seems like a very strange bug! Obviously this is a long running game that was started under v2.12, perhaps that is contributing to these VL-pathed commanders I am getting for free?
Have we hit the unit limit perhaps?
Tumba
October 20th, 2004, 06:53 AM
Interesting. The same thing happened to the queens of water or what ever they are called. I thought there was only three of them, but I received a fourth one. I got one extra when I summoned the third one...
Both with VL paths, and they seem to share the same orders and equipment...
I think it is time to just let this particular game get some rest, and declare it to be a shared victory for the only alliance left in the game. There is nobody left to oppose it anyway.
Soapyfrog
October 20th, 2004, 11:04 AM
But wait... I am just finsihing off Man... just give me a sec http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Did Man go AI actually? In any case lets do two more turns and call it a game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Soapyfrog
October 22nd, 2004, 06:37 PM
Ok, now it is my turn to complain about radically different replay/results.
Again in Newbies_Unite. Server and Client both on 2.14.
I assaulted a castle defended by numerous Vampire Lords and air queen with some mechanical men. I had a large body of wights, mechanical men, devils, an arch devil, king of elemental earth, a superb wraith lord.
IN THE REPLAY:
The defending vampires battle summoned a huge horde of undead and after a long and tortuous fight my force eventuall one through to the casters and slaughtered them, although my wraith lord died in the final stages.
IN THE ACTUAL GAME:
I lost the battle, losing 80% of my force, killing only 10 mechanical men. My wraith lord actually survived and retreated, but my arch devil died.
In short COMPLETELY different results. I have seen others recently posting of similar experiences, and I think I can now confirm them... something is borked!
Now, mind you, this game is already experiencing some interesting bugs, so maybe it is related somehow?
Soapyfrog
October 22nd, 2004, 06:43 PM
Oh and, pursuant to my previous bug report:
www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/plaguestorm2.jpg (http://www.soapyfrog.net/dom2/plaguestorm2.jpg)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
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