MP Game - Faerun Game on Mosehansen: House Rules.

[Cohen]

Restricted Selection of Pretender:
How to read the list:

Nation: Pretenders Avaiable to all themes.
Theme: Add this list to the Nation one if you pick this theme.
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--- Abysya: Moloch, Divine Glyph, Son of the Sun, Fountain of Blood.

--- Atlantis: Dagon, Ancient Kraken, Son of the Sea, Nerid, Great Seer of the Dephs.

--- Pythium: Divine Emperor, Oracle, Sacred Statue.
Default: +Titan (both)
Serpent: +Father of Serpents

--- Man: Master Druid, Arch Druid.
Default: +Divine Serpent, ***** Queen, Crone.
Thuata: +Mother of Thuatha

--- Ulm: Master Alchimist, Great Sage.
Default: +Ciclop
Iron Faith: +Oracle, Sacred Statue
Black Forest: +Vampire Queen

--- C'tis: Father of Serpents, Serpent King.
Tomb Kings: +Saurolich.

--- Arcoscephale: Sacred Statue
Default: +Titan (both), Lady of Fortune, Daughter of the Land, Son of the Sun.
Golden Era: +Shedu, Nataraya.

--- Caelum: Virtue, Arch Seraph, Frost Father.

--- Ermor: Lich, Arch Lich, Lich Queen, Prince of Death, Ghost King.

--- Marignon: Baphomet, Phoenix.
Diabolical Faith: +Moloch, Blood Fountain
Default, Conquerors: +Virtue

--- Pangea: Manticore.
Default: +Medusa, Lord of the Wild, Great Mother, Mother of Lions, Lord of Fertility.
New Era: +Great Bulls (both)
Carrion Wood: +Carrion Dragon.

--- Vanheim: Frost Father, Master Druid, Asynya, Allfather.

--- Jotunheim: -
Default: Bog Mummy (both), Draco Lich.
Utgard: Master Druid, Frost Father, Crone.
Niefelheim: Son of Niefel.

--- Ryleh: Son of the Sea, Nerid, Void Lord, Void Lurker.

--- Mictlan: Smoking Mirror, Fountain of Blood, Lord of the Night, Colossal Head.

--- Tien Chi: Great Sage, Great Enchantress, Naga, Golden Naga.
Default: +Jade Emperor.
Spring and Autumn: +Wyrm, Nataraya
Barbarian: +Freak Lord, Maticore.

--- Machaka: Scorpion King, Lord of the Desert Sun, Monolith.

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Map is Faerun.
Settings:
Indy Strenght 3 HoF 15.
Magic Site Freq 75.
Research is Difficult.
Rich World.

Qh is 24 hours set.
No anonymous sign in.
Port 2245 on Mosehansen.
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[ July 23, 2004, 17:45: Message edited by: Cohen ]

[Snoop]

Looks like a fun map and that goes double for the no clam rule.

Ill take Machaka.

[Tuidjy]

I shall bring the races of Faerun under Odin's Aegis.

I.e. I will play Vanheim.

[Yvelina]

Ulm. Black Forest Ulm.

[Cohen]

I forgot, I take Abysya.

We'll wait for at least 10 players.

[ May 25, 2004, 18:01: Message edited by: Cohen ]

[Cheezeninja]

I'll take Ermor actually

Time for the empire of shadow to expand re-conquer the world http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ May 25, 2004, 18:32: Message edited by: Cheezeninja ]

[Maltrease]

Pythium claimed by Maltrease.

[Pirateiam]

Where can I get the Faerun map?

Nevermind I found it on Gandulfs site

[ May 25, 2004, 22:53: Message edited by: Pirateiam ]

[Pirateiam]

Sorry I cannot play on such a large map - I play on a laptop (I am a road warrior) large maps slow down my computer too much.

[ May 26, 2004, 00:44: Message edited by: Pirateiam ]

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Pirateiam:
Sorry I cannot play on such a large map - I play on a laptop (I am a road warrior) large maps slow down my computer too much. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Does it slow your computer down when going from one turn to the next, or all the time, when looking around the map, giving your orders, etc?

I ask because even on my fairly decent desktop rig, with the really large maps it takes some time to get to the next turn. This isn't an issue with someone else hosting - all the overhead and CPU hogging calculations of random events for each process only happens on the hosting computer.

So - if your laptop is okay except for when going to the next turn, you might still be able to play the Faerun map in the game.

[Norfleet]

The other issue he might be concerned about is that large maps are graphically demanding. The Dom2 graphics engine is very inefficient due to being written for compatibility, not performance, and a laptop GPU may not be up to the task of rendering very large maps.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
The other issue he might be concerned about is that large maps are graphically demanding. The Dom2 graphics engine is very inefficient due to being written for compatibility, not performance, and a laptop GPU may not be up to the task of rendering very large maps. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Maybe - but the map display doesn't seem (on my system) to be a bottleneck, nor should it be. I wrote graphics engines to display maps on Unix and Windoze (raster and bmp file maps), and only needed to implement tiling for maps over 50 megabytes in size.

I think it's more likely to be the between-turn processing - but then, I haven't tried on a laptop, so you might be right.

Waiting to hear from him, or others who have the problem with large maps.

[Pirateiam]

Caine is right it is more of a CPU calculation hog issue so I should be alright. I just wanted to try out the map first in SP mode before I commit to a Multiplayer..but what the heck. I would like to claim Tien Chi. Any way I can lobby for the Natahara to be available for vanilla Tien Chi?

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Pirateiam:
Caine is right it is more of a CPU calculation hog issue so I should be alright. I just wanted to try out the map first in SP mode before I commit to a Multiplayer..but what the heck. I would like to claim Tien Chi. Any way I can lobby for the Natahara to be available for vanilla Tien Chi? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cool - glad you'll be able to get in the game then. I probably would myself, but (guau!) I'm moving in 7 days, and still have way too much packing to do before I vacate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Shouldn't think the Nataraja should be prohibited for T'ien C'hi - that nation almost always winds up one of the earliest defeated in most of my MP games that include it. Needs all the help it can get, and if you think a Nat is the way to go...

But I think Cohen made his house rules? Hopefully he'll see reason.

[Cohen]

I tried to differentiate Pretenders, assigning them thematically, trying to avoid to repeat them more than twice, if not at all ...

All there my houserule.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Cohen:
I tried to differentiate Pretenders, assigning them thematically, trying to avoid to repeat them more than twice, if not at all ...

All there my houserule. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you're saying that you're trying to avoid having a whole bunch of any particular type of pretender, I don't think you have too much to worry about with the Nataraja. (Yes, there was apparently some furor about the Rat, er, Nat, being over powered, but that was patently untrue - until the very late game, only Arco can really capitalize on a Nat.)

If anything - T'ien C'hi should be allowed a Nat, and not Arco, because oriental mythology is full of 4-armed deities, and T'ien C'hi is the only nation that really reeks of being oriental. (More Chinese / Buddhist than Indian / Hindu, where a Nataraja would be 110% thematic, if only it were female, but....)

And so - does "All there my houserule" mean that he can't take a Rataraja? (It isn't quite a sentence in English - please explain.)

And no - I ain't him. I ain't Norfleet either.

And I for samn dure ain't Stormbinder!

(Who is more likely to be Norfleet than anyone else, really, given they both have such a monomaniacal insistence on people not quitting games... *grin*)

[Cainehill]

Oh, and when is this game scheduled to start? In one week exactly I'm out of the loop for as much as 5 days or a week, otherwise I'd be looking to join in.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Cainehill:
And I for samn dure ain't Stormbinder!

(Who is more likely to be Norfleet than anyone else, really, given they both have such a monomaniacal insistence on people not quitting games... *grin*) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Them's fightin' words, Cainehill.

[Cohen]

Well ... perhaps I've told you a little lat considering I've posted I wanted to start today ...

[ May 30, 2004, 07:48: Message edited by: Cohen ]

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Cainehill:

And I for samn dure ain't Stormbinder! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And here he goes again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Seriously Cain, I could almost find your fixation on me to be pretty flattering, if only you had a different gender... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ May 30, 2004, 05:07: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

[mr.white]

wow. 424 provinces. I hope you guys actually make contact with eachother before the game ends due to people dropping out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ May 30, 2004, 08:06: Message edited by: mr.white ]

[Yossar]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Cainehill:

And I for samn dure ain't Stormbinder! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And here he goes again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Seriously Cain, I could almost find your fixation on me to be pretty flattering, if only you had a different gender... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Should Norfleet be flattered by your fixation on him?

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Yossar:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Stormbinder:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Cainehill:

And I for samn dure ain't Stormbinder! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And here he goes again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Seriously Cain, I could almost find your fixation on me to be pretty flattering, if only you had a different gender... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Should Norfleet be flattered by your fixation on him? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL, touche' . http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif That's up to him. Notice though that I gave it up, and not bringing up that topic anymore. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Cheezeninja]

You could make every race thats not being played an Impossible AI. (can you do that on mosehansen?)
or you could at least make a god for every race and then go AI on first turn for all but the one your actually playing. Or i could, or whatever.

[ May 31, 2004, 00:26: Message edited by: Cheezeninja ]