newbie question concerning population

[Boron]

hi all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
i ordered dominions 2 yesterday and now until it is finally shipped to me ( 3-7 days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif )
i play the dominions 1 demo since in dominions 2 demo you can only play until turn 4x

as far as i found out the only setting which influences my population is growth . only with positive growth my population increases very slowly .

this seems a bit strange to me though since there are many ways to quickly lose population but the only way to increase it slowly is growth ?
so every nation expect ermor loses slowly income then when it can't expand for a certain time because pops die slowly .
it seems to be exactly the same in dom 1 and 2 .
ihmo you should get pops when you set taxes to 0% too .
i didn't look much at spells so far and the demo research is only until lvl 4 .
if there are some spells to increase population would be good too

[Tuna-Fish]

This is working as intended. The game is not modeling a peaceful era, but the ascension wars, the strife of the gods, when millions die and millions more suffer and are enslaved. I think steady loss of population is actually quite fitting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Taqwus]

In the full game, you could mod the growth scale to make it stronger -- absurdly so if you'd like. You'd also be strengthening the effect of taking death scale if you do so, I think.

[Cohen]

I agree instead that pop should gwoth more quickly with growth scale ...

If you're a god of prosperity, and took growth, your pop should reproduce quickly ... at least at 0.5% instead of 0.2% per point of scale.

And some spell that raise the population should be nice too.

[NTJedi]

Originally posted by Cohen:

And some spell that raise the population should be nice too. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree... there should be some spell which targets a single province for increasing population since the exact opposite is true. There are lots of spells to decrease population which shows a serious unbalance when compared with spells which increase population.

[LintMan]

The thing that most illustrates the difference to me is that if you Wish for "Armageddon", it does a 20% population loss to *all* provinces. But IIRC, if you Wish for "population", it just shuffles some population from somewhere else to one random province.

Things I'd love to see:

- ability to mod a base population growth so that growth 0 would mean normal human population growth, and the growth/death scales would then represent magical adjustment from that default.

- One or two powerful very high-level spells that increase population of a province in a big way (ie: counteracting all the many powerful population killing spells and events).

[Cohen]

I know about that damn wish option ...
I'd like to see wish heavily reviewed.

[Boron]

not nice to hear that you confirmed that only with positive growth you get a marginal population increase http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
is there even no random event which gives you e.g. 2-3 thousand new population ?

is ermor in dominions 2 as strong as in dominions 1 or does it need now some living population too ?

[Cohen]

There's an event that "migrate" population ... not create new population

[Taqwus]

A Bacchanalia event that caused sloth, unrest and a tiny risk of disease among local units and commanders in exchange for a dominion rise and growth boost several months later might fit the setting.