Eater of the Dead?

[Merry Jolkar]

According to the summoned creater quick reference, the Eater of the Dead goes through four phases of growth, ending with "Unfettered (Lose Control)".

How does this work? What advances it from one level to the next, and what does "Lose Control" mean? Sounds scary!

Oops -- there is somethingon this in the forums already. The Eater grows when it eats enough corpses. But, how many is enough? And what is meant by "Variable" hitpoints?

Merry

[Taqwus]

It needs quite a few corpses, I think. Once it becomes Unfettered, it becomes an independent commander.

Hit points increase with its feeding, even past Unfettered if memory serves. I think I once messed around with an Eater of the Dead in an SP game and got it to exceed 1000 hp as an Unfettered feasting around an enemy's capital.

[JJ_Colorado]

When you say Independent Commander do you mean "can hold items" or "out of your control, under AI control and can attack you"?

Thanks

[Arryn]

"out of your control, under AI control and can attack you"

[Sheap]

Both. But the only way for it to get such items is if you have used Gift of Reason, then given it items when it was still under your control.

Or if he can pick up items from things he kills. Is it possible for independents to do this?

[Vicious Love]

Yep.

[Taqwus]

For extra fun, Gift of Reason the Eater of the Dead and give him the Gift of Kurgi to fill one of his (two, IIRC) misc slots. It's not just an Eater of the Dead, it's a -flying- Eater of the Dead.

It's not very practical, perhaps, but it may be bizarre enough to amuse.

[deccan]

Sheap said:
Or if he can pick up items from things he kills. Is it possible for independents to do this?



I once sent a band of my own heroes after Bogus and gang. They lost miserably and Bogus and his pals took all my stuff. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[jarenko]

Who's Bogus?

[deccan]

jarenko said:
Who's Bogus?



Basically independent SCs.

[Arryn]

jarenko said:
Who's Bogus?


Dom 2's equivalent of the Boogey Man. It's whom the peasants use to scare their children into doing what they're told. It's a nightmare for anyone who doesn't have a fully-equipped SC (or several mini-SCs).

Then there's our pal, Orion & company ...

[deccan]

Arryn said:
Then there's our pal, Orion & company ...



Bogus and company are hard, but I think Orion is over-rated. 1000 xp? Big deal. Anyway, the AI seems to get Orion killed real fast whenever they hire him. Bogus' people on the other hand have really cool stuff and that guy with the lifesteal sword is especially tough.

[Merry Jolkar]

Normally, a band of commanders will route as soon as any one of them is killed. But, IIRC, this is not true of Bogus and colleagues. Am I right on this, and if so, what is going on?

[Kristoffer O]

Bogus can go berserk. Kartuk can summon ghost wolves. If this occurs they won't rout.

[Arryn]

Kristoffer O said:
Bogus can go berserk. {snip} If this occurs they won't rout.

By implication, does this mean that you can always prevent a commander from routing by giving them the "magical trinket" named Berserker Pelt?

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Arryn said:

Kristoffer O said:
Bogus can go berserk. {snip} If this occurs they won't rout.

By implication, does this mean that you can always prevent a commander from routing by giving them the "magical trinket" named Berserker Pelt?



Yep. That underrated Berserker Pelt ;-). There are some cool tricks you can do with that. Like, if you're Jotun, giving pelts to a few Jotun scouts and have them 'guard' your lightly defended borders. A non-berserk Jotun leader will rout as soon as the PD routs. OTOH A Jotun scout with a Wraith Sword and a pelt may win the fight vs a raiding party that's big enough to rout your PD.

[Arryn]

Nagot Gick Fel said:
A non-berserk Jotun leader will rout as soon as the PD routs. OTOH A Jotun scout with a Wraith Sword and a pelt may win the fight vs a raiding party that's big enough to rout your PD.

Cool indeed. Thanks for the tip!