3-Day Quickhost Game Cradle of Metal - Running

[calmon]

The game is running. Final Playerlist:

Abysia Kel
Caelum Maltrese
Jotunheim navrunner
Ulm Cheezeninja
Pythium Cohen
Marignon Cainehill
T'ien Chi wolfkinsov
Atlantis Calmon
Arcoscephale Frosted Flake
Man lebarjack
Ermor JJ_Colorado
Vanheim Tyrant
Mictlan Regen
Pangaea archaeolept

dom2.mosehansen.dk
port 2298
3 days hosting with quickhost
magicsites 40 %
indies 7
cradle.map
research very difficult
renaming on

[Kel]

Thanks for the more casually paced game, been looking for one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I will try Abysia.

- Kel

[Maltrease]

I'll take Caelium if they are allowed on this map. Otherwise I will try my hand at Ry'leh (sp?).

[archaeolept]

its a very large map, and slow going. no chance of having something like 50% victory conditions instead? You know how huge end-games drive me up the wall... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[navrunner]

I would like to try Jotunheim. Do we upload once we post here or should we wait?

[Cheezeninja]

I'll give Ulm a whirl. Nice to see more slow games being created.

[calmon]

No victory conditions. The map isn't as big as orania.
All players who response here can join the game.

Current state:

Abysia Kel
Caelum Maltrese
Jotunheim navrunner
Ulm Cheezeninja

[Stormbinder]

Tempting but I'll pass. 3 days turns in the first 20-30 turns will drive me crazy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Although by turn 50-60 I would probably be glad to such relaxed hosting time... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[calmon]

I prefer a fast game in the first 10-20 turns too and hope the quickhost will run every day.

[archaeolept]

i am so tempted. I like the players involved so far, and that is most important. Also I have this strange hankering to play around w/ the definitely not quite a powerhouse Broken Empire.
but i am scared of the endgame, I admit. the map isn't that much smaller than Orania, and the terrain far more rugged. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Boron]

hm i am tempted too .
but research very difficult frightens me off since i thought of giving SG ermor a try .
because i am in too many games already the 3 days quickhost would be ideal though .

so is research very difficult fixed or is there a chance to turn it into normal research ?
with normal research and archeo not taking BE ermor i would be in as SG ermor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

since i have thaumatic experience with a lab/temple/popblow event on turn 2-3 i can't think of playing anything else than ermor atm lol http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif


no matter what scales i take i seem to attract the hurting events in the first turns at an unbelieveable high rate http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Cainehill]

Since you don't _LIKE_ the heavy magics and summonings, Boron, why wouldn't you like VD research? It makes your national troops more important.

[archaeolept]

w/ these settings and this map i'd actually suggest not allowing the undead nations...

The VD research will quite slow down the development of counters to massed undead, while not hurting ermor much at all.

another reason I was thinking of taking Broken Empire.

[Kel]

I would actually like to see someone play Broken Empire just since I have never played against them, Arch =)

- Kel

[Maltrease]

Except, one major benifit of playing Borken Empire would be the surprise factor of it.

When someone shows up to your door with 20 priest... and you just smile at them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[st.patrik]

yo, put me down for Pangaea, if it's available.

I would also be in favour of a faster start if possible. quickhost is probably a good idea.

[Cohen]

I'd like to try Pythium.

[Cainehill]

I'm in, with ... Marignon.

[wolfkinsov]

I am in as T'ien Chi. But please don't speed up the game. Quick host is fine. But on large maps only slow games work for me.

[Stormbinder]

Maltrease said:
Except, one major benifit of playing Borken Empire would be the surprise factor of it.

When someone shows up to your door with 20 priest... and you just smile at them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Heh. Or paraphrasing ancient Ceaser's saying(Veni, Vidi, Vici): "I came, I saw, I appologized." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[calmon]

I'll play atlantis. So far we are 9 players:

Abysia Kel
Caelum Maltrese
Jotunheim navrunner
Ulm Cheezeninja
Pangaea st.patrik
Pythium Cohen
Marignon Cainehill
T'ien Chi wolfkinsov
Atlantis Calmon

Please upload your pretenders next time. I'll wait some more time to get a good filled game.

[Frosted Flake]

I'm only an experienced newb but I'll play arco

frosted flake

[archaeolept]

since i have been so ignominiously eliminated from my other slow game, I guess I'll try the Vans. Be my second time as them and hopefully i'll do better.

I seriously considered broken empire, but they have just too many disadvantages, especially in a slow research game. their mages suck, basically ;P

[archaeolept]

oh my, I really better not do this, or else i'll end up being in a world of hurt. sorry guys, i'm out.

[lebarjack]

So, it seems you are willing to accept newbie players.
I will give a try to Man for this game.

I *try* to upload my pretender this evening (As I've only played PBEM games, i am a bit clumsy with Mosehansen script or network games)

[Kel]

What's wrong, Arch ?

Come on, we will be gentle with you... =)

- Kel

[Thufir]

archaeolept said:
oh my, I really better not do this, or else i'll end up being in a world of hurt. sorry guys, i'm out.



oh, the temptation!

[calmon]

So far we are 11:

Abysia Kel
Caelum Maltrese
Jotunheim navrunner
Ulm Cheezeninja
Pangaea st.patrik
Pythium Cohen
Marignon Cainehill
T'ien Chi wolfkinsov
Atlantis Calmon
Arcoscephale Frosted Flake
Man lebarjack

Most of the player uploaded his pretender. Only the on from Pangaea (and mine) is missed. St. Patrik please upload.

I'll wait 24 hour from now on to give more players the chance to join. After that i'll start the game. So hurry and join as C'tis, Ermor, Vanheim, R'lyeh, Mictlan or Machaka. The map give room for 2-3 more nations.

[En Forcer]

I would like to join as Machaka. Do you have any special instructions?

I will create a pretender this evening when I get home from work.

My contact email: masterofnations@yahoo.com

[Cainehill]

I think the only "special instructions" are the ones for joining a server game on Mosehansen. In case you haven't done this before, after you create the pretender:

Connect to the mosehansen server (mosehansen.dk works, although I think dom2.mosehansen.dk is what is specified on the website), then the specified port ( 2298 for this game ). At this point, it'll show you a list of nations - click on the one you want (making sure that it is displayed as 'open', which it should be), Machaka.

At this point your pretender has been uploaded, but you'd really want to register on the mosehansen.dk website, and 'claim' your nation there. That way you don't show up as anonymous (anons are sometimes kicked, because of many problems with them) and best of all, you can easily see when the turns have run.

[En Forcer]

Sounds like a plan. I'm going home for lunch so I'll try to get it done then. Otherwise tonight.

[En Forcer]

DARN!

Okay, at lunch I registered at mohansen.dk and also created a pretender.

However all attempts to log onto the server got me disconnected. I received the "server connection lost" (Nagot Gick Fel) message and dom2 closes completely. I tried typing in variants of the IP address but to no avail.

Advice?

[archaeolept]

you're imputting the proper port#?

do you get to the nation selection screen in domII when you're trying to upload your pretender?

[En Forcer]

I select from the main dom2 menu "connect to network" -- it then asks for server IP so I type the URL "dom2.mohansen.dk"
as soon as I hit enter I get the error message. It never actually connects.

Do you suggest I try to input the port # first? Previous Posts imply that you enter that after the IP address.

I was wondering if maybe somebody could give it to me in IP format? IE- 54.256.18.22 that sort of thing. Maybe that would work?

[archaeolept]

his name is mose not mo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

80.161.86.108

also, for convenience's sake w/ network games, it is worth creating a desktop shortcut.

for instance, I would have a shortcut entitled "hard_slog" (the name of the game) w/ this under "properties" (right click shortcut icon to edit properties):

E:\games\dominions2\dom2.exe --tcpclient --ipadr 80.161.86.108 --port 2281-m --res 1152 864 --clickvol 0

where you would replace your own path to the Dom2 executible, the correct port, and the resolution you would like the window to be in (or just ignore all that if you don't want it windowed).

[JJ_Colorado]

I'll join as Ermor unless someone has already taken them in which case I'll take Vanheim unless someone has already taken them in which case I'll take Mictlan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


Anyway, I'll upload Ermor pretender in a few hours.

Regds,
John

[En Forcer]

I'll try out the info you gave me. Thanks.


Yeah, I typed "mose" just did the "Mo" slip because my memory is like a steel trap ... rusted shut!

If worst comes to worst and I can't connect, I'll email my pretender so the initial turn can commence without me and I can get things working over the weekend. But I hope to fix this by tonight.

If anyone else has seen this problem please give advice!

Thanks.

[archaeolept]

do you have any weird firewall settings?

[Tyrant]

I would like in as Vanheim please.

[Regen]

In as Mictlan

[En Forcer]

That is a possibility. I have zonealarm running.

I will try setting that URL/IP as a "friend" and allow total access to it to see if that enables my connection.

**I also have Spybot 1.3 running which blocks ad-ware and scrubs for cookies and adware programs and marketing tracking software. I wonder if that program would also interfere with dom2?

[Kel]

I use spybot and adaware, among other things. They have not caused me any problems with Dom2.

- Kel

[deccan]

archaeolept said:
his name is mose not mo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

80.161.86.108

also, for convenience's sake w/ network games, it is worth creating a desktop shortcut.

for instance, I would have a shortcut entitled "hard_slog" (the name of the game) w/ this under "properties" (right click shortcut icon to edit properties):

E:\games\dominions2\dom2.exe --tcpclient --ipadr 80.161.86.108 --port 2281-m --res 1152 864 --clickvol 0

where you would replace your own path to the Dom2 executible, the correct port, and the resolution you would like the window to be in (or just ignore all that if you don't want it windowed).



Hey that's a neat idea. I've been keeping server names / port numbers on slips of paper. Thanks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[En Forcer]

I am unable to connect to the mosehansen server.

I'll have to bail out of this game and wait till some other time.

So...Machaka is free.

I've tried everything. Even the shortcut above but then it tries to connect and the game shuts down.

Should I wipe the game and reinstall?

Also, I am running 2.13

would that bork the connection?

This sucks....

[Cainehill]

You might try disabling zonealarm temporarily, just to see if that's it. I'm running ZA myself, but I think all I had to do is tell ZA that yes, the dom2.exe was to be allowed to access the internet.

Mmm - if you're running in full screen mode, you might be getting blocked by zonealarm but unable to see it.

Edit: Illwinter has written that 2.13 and 2.12 are compatible, so that shouldn't be it. However, if you do succeed in connecting, you really REALLY want to set yourself up with a 2.12 executable for the game; otherwise the battles you watch are likely to be completely hallucinatory.

IE: You watch a battle, see your pretender destroy the opposing enemy with minimal losses. But the battle report says all your guys died, and your Pretender is waiting to be recalled, like a defective appliance. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Kel]

En Forcer said:
Also, I am running 2.13

would that bork the connection?





Dunno but hopefully it would http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I believe he is running 2.12
You might try conencting with 2.12

- Kel

[Thufir]

Kel said:

En Forcer said:
Also, I am running 2.13

would that bork the connection?





Dunno but hopefully it would http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I believe he is running 2.12
You might try conencting with 2.12

- Kel



It's worth a shot, but it's pretty unlikely that this the problem. I tested hitting Sheap's server w/ a 2.13 client, and got through fine.

[En Forcer]

Cainehill-yeah I tried a bunch of different ways with everything shut off that was running when I went Online. I shut off ZA and spybot and everything but no difference. I might try wiping and reinstalling this weekend.

In the meantime, does anyone have a different IP I can plug in to see if I can connect to a different server?

[DragonFire11]

Hi. I'll play Atlantis since it still seems open. Thanks.

[Cainehill]

En Forcer said:
Cainehill-yeah I tried a bunch of different ways with everything shut off that was running when I went Online. I shut off ZA and spybot and everything but no difference. I might try wiping and reinstalling this weekend.

In the meantime, does anyone have a different IP I can plug in to see if I can connect to a different server?



Mmm - Sheap is the other big hoster (big, juicy, mutton!) I can think of. I could give an IP, but unless he (or someone else) sets up a test game for you to try to connect to (because of passwords, etc), I'm not sure it would help.

Eh - have you tried pinging / tracerouting / telneting? I don't think it'd be a DNS problem, but it could be, or a routing problem, and those would help figure out if it was.

Good luck.

Edit: Oh, and remember: if ZoneAlarm was on at boot, shutting it down may leave the internet shut down. (This is mostly, and definately, true when the vector engine doesn't initalize properly.) In which case, make sure you can get to other pieces of the net. If you can - you're shafted. If you can't - it might be ZA, and rebooting with it turned off might fix it.

Again, good luck.

[Sheap]

Anyone that wants can aim a client at benatar.snurgle.org port 2000 (through 2006, heh) and see if they can connect. You won't be able to play (and even if you can, you shouldn't). But you should at least get as far as the nation selection screen before it asks you for a password, where you'll be stopped, most likely.

I guess if push comes to shove I could put up a test game just for you to experiment with.

[calmon]

DragonFire11 said:
Hi. I'll play Atlantis since it still seems open. Thanks.



Like you can read in this thread Atlantis isn't open. It was claimed by me. Please release your pick on mosehansen website. In moment R'lyeh or C'tis are the only nation not selected!

[calmon]

We need no more players. The game is finaly full. The players which upload a pretender are:

Abysia Kel
Caelum Maltrese
Jotunheim navrunner
Ulm Cheezeninja
Pythium Cohen
Marignon Cainehill
T'ien Chi wolfkinsov
Atlantis Calmon
Arcoscephale Frosted Flake
Man lebarjack
Ermor JJ_Colorado
Vanheim Tyrant
Mictlan Regen

We still wait for:
Pangaea st.patrik (i've pm him)
Machaka En Forcer - whats your state of connecting?

The not-played nations R'lyeh and C'Tis are closed. DragonFire11, if you still want to join this game choose one of this 2 and upload your pretender.

You all have ~6 hours to upload/rechoice pretenders then the game will start.

[calmon]

Ok. Its 10 hours later now. I got no answer and no uploads. Anyone knows st.patrik? I'll start this game very soon if still no reactions.

[Cainehill]

And we already have 13 players - already a bit crowded for the cradle map. Not like St Patrik didn't have several (4) days in which he could've done his pretender and uploaded, whereas Enforcer has bad luck in not being able to connect to the server.

Either way - I don't see where we should wait on either one of 'em. The one had his chance, and the other seems unable to play.

[En Forcer]

Calmon - sorry it was hidden in an earlier post but I have to give up my position as Machaka. Whatever is preventing me from connecting is not going to be solved quickly and I don't want everyone to wait on my account.

Please have someone else play that nation.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys!

[archaeolept]

against my better judgement i have decided to join a new game and experiment w/ a new nation. ;-)

Pangaia being free, as the game is about to start w/out st. patrick, I'll try that out.

[calmon]

Game is started. Good luck to all!

Final playerlist:

Abysia Kel
Caelum Maltrese
Jotunheim navrunner
Ulm Cheezeninja
Pythium Cohen
Marignon Cainehill
T'ien Chi wolfkinsov
Atlantis Calmon
Arcoscephale Frosted Flake
Man lebarjack
Ermor JJ_Colorado
Vanheim Tyrant
Mictlan Regen
Pangaea archaeolept

Machaka, R'lyeh and C'tis are not played.

[Kel]

archaeolept said:
against my better judgement i have decided to join a new game and experiment w/ a new nation. ;-)

Pangaia being free, as the game is about to start w/out st. patrick, I'll try that out.



Bah, if you were going to play begrudgingly, you could have at least stuck with your original Broken Empire ! =)

- Kel

[Tyrant]

Two questions:

1) Random events are listed at mosehansen as "1"...is that rare or common? (guess i really should have asked that before i made my god)

2) What are the victory conditions?

[calmon]

Tyrant said:
Two questions:

1) Random events are listed at mosehansen as "1"...is that rare or common? (guess i really should have asked that before i made my god)

2) What are the victory conditions?



1) common
2) standard (lonely god wins)

[En Forcer]

Well, I tried Sheap's url to see if I could connect but I am still getting the same message. "Server connection broken."

Oh well. I think I'll next wipe and reinstall the game. Don't know what else to do.

[st.patrik]

Aw Man... I turn my back for a couple of days and my spot gets given to someone else http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

sucks!

[calmon]

st.patrik said:
Aw Man... I turn my back for a couple of days and my spot gets given to someone else http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

sucks!



Why didn't you upload your pretender when going away for days?

[st.patrik]

I didn't go away for a few days, I just didn't check the Boards, because I thought Mosehansen was deciding whether or not to switch to 2.13 (and b/c I had other things going on). I seem to remember checking on thursday, and then yesterday - 3 days apart.

oh well, water under the bridge anyways

st.p

[calmon]

After this turn i will "restart" the mosehansen game so the patch 2.14 will take effect. Just keep an eye on your clamps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Tyrant]

Arco (frosted flake) is now listed as computer controlled.
The same player did the same thing in another game we are both in, also with out an explanation.

[calmon]

For the next turn we have a 120 hour hosting cycle. I'll change this very soon back to normal 3 day cycle. I'm just away for a week and my normal sub can't take over this time.

[archaeolept]

well, after that long week we finally have a new turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

calmon, could you pls change the hosting schedule back...

thnx ;-)

[calmon]

Server went back to 3 days quickhost! Sry this dry hard week.

[Cainehill]

I'm wondering if there's any explanation for two of our nations, Abysia and Caelum, sent out the identical long involved message. Sure sounded like the same player was doing both nations.