arcane nexus

[The_Tauren13]

What's up with arcane nexus? It keeps giving me a message "The Arcane Nexus has absorbed magic power equal to 323 astral gems." But I'm not getting any extra gems of any type.

[archaeolept]

you should be getting 1/4 that number in astral gems, IIRC. Keep track of the precise number of astrals you have at the end of the turn, and see.

[Cainehill]

It works - having spent all my 999 astral gems on the spell, I wound up with about 230 back from the nexus the next turn.

[Jurri]

I don't think astral pearls are absorbed at all (in fact it says so in the description, even http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif)

[The_Tauren13]

Well, I certainly got nowhere near 323, but with all my clams I might have missed 81 pearls... but why would it only give one fourth of what it says? That seems kind of silly to not simply tell you what you get.

[Cainehill]

Yeah, it says something like "the equivalent of XXX astral gems was absorbed" - when I first was casting the spell, from the description I expected to get fire gems from fire spells, etc, but it all comes back in astral, and not nearly as much as is indicated.

[The_Tauren13]

Yeah, I expected to start geting gems of all kinds other than astral and blood, as the description leads you to believe. But then when it said it absorbed over 300 and i didnt get it, I was just like WTF?

[alexti]

The_Tauren13 said:
Yeah, I expected to start geting gems of all kinds other than astral and blood, as the description leads you to believe.


You must have forgotten to wish for gems http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[archaeolept]

heh.

as i recall, all non astral gems used in the previous turn are summed up, then converted to astral (at a two to one ratio), then you get half of them. I think that's it.

if you are unhappy w/ the huge astral income boost this gives, please just don't cast it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[The_Tauren13]

archaeolept said:
if you are unhappy w/ the huge astral income boost this gives, please just don't cast it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif



Heh, I'm about to die to dominion anyway. Too bad you can't alchemize astral pearls into... er... dominon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Sindai]

Sure you can. Wish: "dominion." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[The_Tauren13]

Yeah, maybe in another 20 turns ill have it researched... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
When income = upkeep, life sucks.

[Cohen]

Go for Gift of Nature Bounty to double your income ^^

[Cainehill]

Or alchemize fire / earth gems into gold. I have many games I do this in, especially when I'm running CW Pan, but also others - start creating enough Fever Fetishes and income starts to become irrelevent as long as you can recruit 1/10th as many scouts as you have fetishes each turn, modified by the HPs of your scouts, among other things.

Blood nations might find it easier to live off of blood stones, even with the lesser gem -> gold ratio.

[The_Tauren13]

Yeah i have been alchemizing all my fire gem income. Havent built any fetishes though... no easy way of getting a fire/nature crossover.

[archaeolept]

well, if you have arcane nexus up and are getting 80+ astral/turn from it (such that you didn't even notice due to your clam income...), just alchemize to fire and sell the sh*t. that's 600+ gold/turn right there.

[Boron]

Yeah fetish hoarding and the worries for money are (almost) gone in mid-lategame .

Earthincome i rarely convert into gold because there are so many imo "better" uses for the earthgems like further hammers , casting the forge of ancients or hordes of mechanical men etc. etc. .

Very often you are lucky enough to find a province with jade sorceresses . Some of them will have a random fire then and can be used for fetish forging . Most can be used for clamforging as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .
The only 2 summons which can get NF are afaik tartarians and spectres .
If you can cast the forge for a few turns though every of your mages can build fetishes quite cheap and you will quickly swim in them .