New quick modding questions

[Boron]

I love to clamhoard in mp .

Now i want to play a bit SP for fun too but in SP i don't want to manage immense clamhoarding .

So now my question :
Is it possible to mod clams , fever fetishes , soul contracts and bloodstones for sp this way that the output + the forging costs are increased x10 or x20 , but the paths required for that stay the same ?
e.g. new clam costs 100 water gems but gives 10 pearls / turn and still requires 2w to be forged .

In the modding manual there is nothing about such a command but iirc zen managed to mod items in his mod that they cost more but require still the old paths .

Thnx for your answer in advance , Kristoffer or Johan http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .

P.S. : Will dominions III include a function like autoassign hoard items to scouts ?
A good example how nicely that works is Victoria with the autoassign workers to RGOs and Factories options .

[quantum_mechani]

You could make them cost more, but I don't think you could change the gem output.

[Boron]

quantum_mechani said:
You could make them cost more, but I don't think you could change the gem output.


I have the slight hope that #gemprod <type> <number> works for magic items as well .

[Zen]

Boron said:
So now my question :
Is it possible to mod clams , fever fetishes , soul contracts and bloodstones for sp this way that the output + the forging costs are increased x10 or x20 , but the paths required for that stay the same ?

No, you cannot do this. You cannot modify magic items as far as stats/effects except those that are tied to weapon modding.


In the modding manual there is nothing about such a command but iirc zen managed to mod items in his mod that they cost more but require still the old paths .

No, you can't do this.



P.S. : Will dominions III include a function like autoassign hoard items to scouts ?
A good example how nicely that works is Victoria with the autoassign workers to RGOs and Factories options .



Dominions 3 will have less micromanagement but I don't think it will make hoarding easier or more viable. But you never know.

[Boron]

Thnx for the quick answer Zen .
I will invent then hoard summons for my purposes to lessen the MM for SP http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .

[PvK]

You could just increase the cost and live without them, particularly since I think the AI doesn't hoard much.

PvK

[Boron]

PvK said:
You could just increase the cost and live without them, particularly since I think the AI doesn't hoard much.

PvK


Nah i want something to hoard but without having the pain to micromanage all the scouts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .


I have some troubles though implementing this :

It seems to me that you can invent no new spells . So picking 3 rarely used creatures as "new" bloodstone/clam/fever fetish seems to be the best solution .

I picked the corpse construct as "clam" and made it cost 300 water but give 30 pearls / turn . This way i need to only "hoard" 1/30 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif .

But how do i turn the corpse construct into a commander ?
Or do i need 3 commanders for that ? Then i will use only a new clam http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

[Kristoffer O]

> Nah i want something to hoard but without having the pain to micromanage all the scouts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .

Too bad http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

> I have some troubles though implementing this :

> It seems to me that you can invent no new spells . So picking 3 rarely used creatures as "new" bloodstone/clam/fever fetish seems to be the best solution .

Turning them into "sea kings" you mean?

> I picked the corpse construct as "clam" and made it cost 300 water but give 30 pearls / turn . This way i need to only "hoard" 1/30 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif .

Ugh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

> But how do i turn the corpse construct into a commander ?

You cast Gift of Reason on him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

> Or do i need 3 commanders for that ? Then i will use only a new clam http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

What http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Boron]

Thnx for the funny answer Kristoffer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

My new "clam" is now the revenant . Since the limit for gem generation seems to be 10 per turn and not 30 as i thought he costs now 70 water gems , the equal to 10 clams forged with a dwarfen hammer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif


Would it be possible to include the caps in the next modding manual as well ?

Now i decided to change a few scale effects also to reduce Micro and i believe this helps the ai also greatly .

Now my new questions :
What is the maximum cap for the resource and supply multiplicator ?
I so far chose x500 for both which should be x5 .

Since i always hate random events i think i have found a solution to my problem :
If i change 13.8 #turmoilevents <percent> to e.g. 50 then with order 3 scale i should have -150% events .

Is my hope correct that this way i will never have random events again as long as i have order 2-3 scale in my province ?

If i additionally change #misfortune <percent> to 20 this shouldn't hurt the ai because if it picks luck 3 it gets only good events then .


Or is a very hard ai with all the extra points dumb enough to take turmoil 3 + misfortune 3 scale together ?!?

[Endoperez]

Boron, I have to ask you some questions.

Why are you changing the game so that your favoured strategy, which the AI doesn't have an answer to, is easier AND you also mod the game so that you can always take free order 3 *every game*? If we also consider the fact that AI will not change its ways and choose Order 3 - Misfortune 3 (the ultimate combination after your changes), you have just given yourself *more* bonuses than even Impossible AI has!

Are you sure you can't try something harder for your SP games? Like Alt 4 Wish that needs S2 and 12 gems, or replacing Arcane Probing with Acashic Record modded to S1 and 2 pearls? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Boron]

Endoperez said:
Boron, I have to ask you some questions.

Why are you changing the game so that your favoured strategy, which the AI doesn't have an answer to, is easier AND you also mod the game so that you can always take free order 3 *every game*? If we also consider the fact that AI will not change its ways and choose Order 3 - Misfortune 3 (the ultimate combination after your changes), you have just given yourself *more* bonuses than even Impossible AI has!



As i said i play sp only for fun and mainly mp .

And more important :
Most boni were in favour of the ai : supply x5 + resources x5 give them the ability to recruit more stuff in their capitol and have almost zero starving .

Furthermore with 16 Ai nations on vh i am sure that at least 5-10 of them will either pick luck 3 turmoil 3 or order 3 misfortune x .
So the "stupid" Ais which chose bad scales get killed quicker but i think the scales are distributed more or less randomly so with 16 Ai's there will be at least a few good ones in it .
And resources x5 give the Ai enough opportunity to recruit finally lots of their sacred capitol only troops . Those can be really fearsome because sometimes the ai has 2 lvl 9-10 paths + a couple lvl 4 paths so ultrablesses .


About my clamhoard making easier : i have to pay 70 water for 10 pearls turnly income .
If i would forge clams by myself in sp i would probably have forge up quite soon and forge clams then for the price of only 5 or maybe even only 3 water gems each ... .


It is not easier but rather harder this way . I have enforced the houserule upon me that i may only hoard my new clams and not the normal ones any longer .

Btw my clam revenant is immobile so if the ai summons some they can't sacrifice them instantly and profit from them also .

[Ironhawk]

Does it really matter if this mod makes his SP game easier or harder? It's an SP game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif So if this helps him enjoy it more, hey, more power to him.


Endoperez said:
Are you sure you can't try something harder for your SP games?