Mosehansen Orania 2.14 : started

[Manuk]

Made a new game at mosehansen.
https://www.mosehansen.dk/index.html

Named Orania dayly 2
game version 2.14 no mod

[Tuidjy]

Been too long since I have played Caelum. Lets see if it is as overpowered as
some would want us to think.

[Azhur]

My first MP-game and wanna be in with the good old Pangaea. Could you give me a few technical tips about playing Dom2 in MP?

[Manuk]

Re-opened, this time is daily.

[Manuk]

to connect go to main menu on dom2
network
connect
on server put:
dom2.mosehansen.dk
on port put:
2202 (my game number)
choose a nation (first you might want to create a god for it)
then press disconnect (this will make you appear on the game)
when everybody is ready we can start it

[Azhur]

Thanks for the help. When I choose Pangaea, will it automatically take the newest god I have made or..?

[Gandalf Parker]

Yes, and if you have done as most do by making it for solo play with no password, then you might want to at least redo it to add that one thing

[Azhur]

Gandalf Parker said:
Yes, and if you have done as most do by making it for solo play with no password, then you might want to at least redo it to add that one thing



Err.. how can I actually redo it? Now that I was thinking of going from NE Pangaea to the Vanilla one, I had already the option available of playing my turn as NE Pangaea. So is this already the point of no-return? Yet it doesn't matter to me that much, since I can rumble with any Pan dominion..

[Manuk]

someone started the game I will create it again

[Manuk]

done. is orania daily 3
have to join again

[Manuk]

so up now we are:
Azhur - Pangaea
me - Ulm
someone (maybe romanus?) - Pythium

[Knudsen]

I'll try Caelum, if the server lets me in.

[Cainehill]

Manuk said:
someone started the game I will create it again



As the game's creator, you have the option to make it so that the players can't start the game. I'd suggest you do this, otherwise you may have to recreate the game 10 or 12 times - it always seems _some_ player clicks on the "Start Game" button otherwise.

[Zapmeister]

I'll play R'lyeh if I get home before the game starts.

[Zapmeister]

Ouch, I have a problem. My copy of Dom2 is currently at v2.12, and the only patches I can find will take it to v2.15

Can I play with a v2.15 client or, alternatively, does anyone know where I can get the v2.14 patch?

EDIT: S'OK, I found it

[Knudsen]

I suggest everyone update to 2.15.

Btw. How about mods?

[Zapmeister]

Mose has never upgraded the server to 2.15, which is why we're at 2.14

[Bluebird]

Is there a problem with using a 2.15 client? I thought this was backwards-compatible ...

[Zapmeister]

Bluebird said:
Is there a problem with using a 2.15 client? I thought this was backwards-compatible ...



I think it will be OK, BUT your battle replays will show action completely unrelated to what actually happened.

[Manuk]

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[Manuk]

We are five already

Azhur - Pangaea
Zapmeister - Rlyeh
Knudsen - Caelum
Romanus - Pythium
me - Ulm

I dont think we are enough because the map is so big.
I say we wait for some more people to join.

[odd_enuf]

i'll join as jot, whats the research setting?

odd_enuf

[Zapmeister]

Manuk said:
We are five already

Azhur - Pangaea
Zapmeister - Rlyeh
Knudsen - Caelum
Romanus - Pythium
me - Ulm

I dont think we are enough because the map is so big.
I say we wait for some more people to join.



I played Faerun (large version) with only 4 once. It was fine, although it's essentially SP for a while http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Manuk]

its normal research.
so if we are six maybe we can start?
whenever youre ready

[Zapmeister]

Manuk said:
its normal research.
so if we are six maybe we can start?
whenever youre ready



odd_enuf needs some time to get his pretender in but, after that, I reckon we should start.

[Bluebird]

Hmm ... I would join you as Man, but I still need to downgrade from 2.15 to 2.14 - anybody can give me some hints on what is the best way to maintain two releases (Linux)? Any problems with just having them in two different folders?

[Azhur]

Bluebird said:
Any problems with just having them in two different folders?



I don't have much of experience with Linux, but there shouldn't be any trouble..

Bluebird joined as Man makes six of us altogether, so are we gonna start soon?

[Manuk]

ok we can start today
im not home, im at work but any of the players can start the game since now.
feel free to.

[Knudsen]

I suspect, that I made my pretender with Zens mod enabeled (I'm at work so I can't check right now). I don't now if it will cause bugs - but it does give me an unfair advantage.

If you wait until 22.00 CET, I'll replace my pretender.

[Bluebird]

Yea - would be nice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Manuk]

i will cancel then

[Alneyan]

There will be a problem with having enabled the Zen mod, as your Pretender will be based on the modified point costs. If you have picked a beefed up Pretender, you could find yourself with a Pretender having used more than 500 points, triggering the cheat direction. You would then end up with an Archmage (no magic of course), not the greatest Pretender around. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

If that helps you, there is no problem with having both executables on the same directory in Windows. The 2.15 patch simply alters the executable file (at least compared to the 2.14 version), so there should be no problem with keeping the two versions at the same place. I do not know if Linux can interfere with that though.

[Knudsen]

New pretender uploaded. No mods and v 2.14. Hopefully everything is now in order.

[Zapmeister]

Knudsen said:
New pretender uploaded. No mods and v 2.14. Hopefully everything is now in order.



Um, I'm not sure it will be in order. To stop people stealing other people's positions, Mose installed something to regularly restore the first pretender submitted for each nation. If nothing's changed on the server since I was here last, you'll still get the original pretender.

The only way to do this is to check "That's Not Me" on mosehansen, then get Manuk/Feyd to kick anonymous players. That will chuck you out of the game altogether. Then submit your new pretender.

[Mark the Merciful]

I've just joined as Tien Chi. Hope that's OK.

Ready to go if so.

Mark

[Knudsen]

Zapmeister said:

Knudsen said:
New pretender uploaded. No mods and v 2.14. Hopefully everything is now in order.



Um, I'm not sure it will be in order. To stop people stealing other people's positions, Mose installed something to regularly restore the first pretender submitted for each nation. If nothing's changed on the server since I was here last, you'll still get the original pretender.

The only way to do this is to check "That's Not Me" on mosehansen, then get Manuk/Feyd to kick anonymous players. That will chuck you out of the game altogether. Then submit your new pretender.



Life is full of complications. Mosehansen does allow me to replace the existing pretender - but if Zapmeister is right that may not be enough. Just in case I've changed my status to anonymous, so I should now be "kickable".

[odd_enuf]

uploading my pretender now

odd_enuf

[Manuk]

I will kick anonymous player that should be Caelum and Jontunheim. Idont know who each are but you must join again.

[odd_enuf]

while reuploading my jot pretended i accidentally clicked on marigon. you'll need to kick annonmous again

[Zapmeister]

So it looks like we're ready to start!

[Bluebird]

First, we have to kick out Marigon again.

[Manuk]

kicked

[Manuk]

Its ready to start
any player can do it now
its 24 hours or after all players played their turns (quickhost)

players:
Azhur - Pangaea
Croyzon - Machaka
Zapmeister - Rlyeh
Bluebird - Man
Knudsen - Caelum
Markthemerciful - Tienchi
Romanus - Pythium
odd_enuf - Jontunheim
me - Ulm

total = 9 (good)

[Bluebird]

I pressed the button http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Have fun everybody !!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Zapmeister]

Manuk, did you set a master password?

It's just that without a MP, there's no way to handle someone who silently walks away from the game - something that seems to happen at least once in most games.

[Manuk]

i dont understand. what do you mean?

[Zapmeister]

Manuk said:
i dont understand. what do you mean?



I guess that's a "no", then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

When you create a game on mosehansen, there's a box (near the bottom IIRC) where you can supply a master password. This password will be accepted by the game as an alternative password for any nation, and is known only to the game master.

If any player then stops submitting orders, forcing each turn to go to the timelimit and effectively disabling quickhost, then the game master can log into the offender's nation and set it to computer control.

[Manuk]

can i do it now that the game is started?

[Zapmeister]

Manuk said:
can i do it now that the game is started?



No - forget it.

[Bluebird]

Lets just hope that nobody just abandoms the game.

[Manuk]

not this early at least. and if someone wants to just say it. it will be no problem.

question for you:
can i play my turns on 2 different computers?

[Bluebird]

I normally play my turns on two different computers. All works fine, except for a little detail that you should take care about:

If you do a turn on machine A, then the turn is not available on the machine B. As a result, you cannot 'continue' the turn on the machine B, but you have to redo it completly.

Also, if you should then switch back to machine A, then our "outdated" turn will be uploaded directly on connection, overriding your changes from machine B.

So you see - it is a little bit tricky when you do the same turn on two different hosts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I wanted to develop a tool that would allow you to easily check the status of a multiple servers without interfering with the uploaded turns. JK of Illwinter promised my on 2004-11-25 to give me some protocol specs to do it, but I have not heard from him since. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

[Knudsen]

I'll be going away for the weekend and would appreciate if you could hold the turn after the current one until Sunday night, CET. If not, at least you all know why I'll stale ;-)

[Manuk]

question: if i press stop game at mosehansen could we continue later on or It will restart it?

[Zapmeister]

Manuk said:
question: if i press stop game at mosehansen could we continue later on or It will restart it?



It will pause the game until you restart the server (which does NOT restart the the game from turn 1)

But a better way to give Knudsen his weekend off would be to set the time limit up to a couple of days and leave quickhost on. That way, the turn will run as soon as Knudsen gets back and puts in his orders.

[Manuk]

I will sop the game just in case.

Game will stop next turn until monday.

[Zapmeister]

Manuk said:
I will sop the game just in case.
Game will stop next turn until monday.



Darn, that means we don't even see the results of this turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

[Bluebird]

Isn't it possible to switch to only QH on Mosehansen?!

[Knudsen]

Knudsen said:
I'll be going away for the weekend and would appreciate if you could hold the turn after the current one until Sunday night, CET. If not, at least you all know why I'll stale ;-)



I'm back.

[Manuk]

the only left to play this turn is mark

[Zapmeister]

Manuk said:
the only left to play this turn is mark



But he can't, because the game is stopped.

If it's restarted now, he will have 24 hours to play, then it will be another 24 hours for everyone, including Knudsen.

[Manuk]

restarted

[Zapmeister]

Is Azhur staling? Both games I'm in (this one and a cradle one) have been waiting on him and possibly timing out for a couple of turns now.

It may be that he's just pressed for time to play 2 large positions, but if he is in fact staling, we should take some action, yes?

EDIT: False alarm - Akhur is back on deck.

[Bluebird]

I will be travelling from Friday to Sunday and might not make it in time for a 24h turn.

Could we increase the limit to 48h QH over the weekend? I should be able to do a turn within two days ...

[Zapmeister]

Bluebird said:
Could we increase the limit to 48h QH over the weekend? I should be able to do a turn within two days ...


I vote we do this. I believe it's just a matter of editing the time limit and restarting the mosehansen service. But please, let's not leave the server stopped over the weekend.

[Knudsen]

Zapmeister said:

Bluebird said:
Could we increase the limit to 48h QH over the weekend? I should be able to do a turn within two days ...


I vote we do this. I believe it's just a matter of editing the time limit and restarting the mosehansen service. But please, let's not leave the server stopped over the weekend.



Agreed.

[Manuk]

its ok if iget it back to 24hs?

[Bluebird]

Fine with me ... though Tien Chi has not moved this turn.

[Mark the Merciful]

Have now - and fine with me too.

[Bluebird]

Hmm ... seems like the game is starting to decide itself. Pangaea is out, after having had quite a powerful position.

Azhur, any comments on the game? Would be interesting to hear what happened to you.

[Bluebird]

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[Zapmeister]

Bluebird said:
Hmm ... seems like the game is starting to decide itself.


Mmm - a long way to go yet, methinks. There's some big, ugly brutes out there and I count myself among them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
I have to say, I'm really enjoying this one. I just wish Knudsen would bum some time off work and play his turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Azhur]

Bluebird said:
Hmm ... seems like the game is starting to decide itself. Pangaea is out, after having had quite a powerful position.

Azhur, any comments on the game? Would be interesting to hear what happened to you.



Well I got somewhat depressed after the combined attack of R'lyeh and Caelum, and thus decided to forfeit. Matriculation examinations (<- took that from a dictionary) are also approaching, so right now I don't have that much time to spend on Dom2.

[Bluebird]

have we lost mark?

[Knudsen]

Bluebird said:
have we lost mark?



7 minuttes to go - It looks like Mark is going to miss his turn

[Mark the Merciful]

Nah - I logged on with minutes to spare. Even did the next turn too!

[Zapmeister]

7 minuttes to go - It looks like Mark is going to miss his turn


Mark is still here and is looking well placed to win the game. My reasoning is that the original Big 3 (Pangaea, Ulm and Jotunheim) have each taken a dive. If that pattern continues, then the slowest-starting nation will win and, by my reckoning, that would be T'ien Ch'i.

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[Bluebird]

Still Tuidjy's claim stands that Caelum is overpowered http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Knudsen]

Bluebird said:
Still Tuidjy's claim stands that Caelum is overpowered http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



I hope so

[Mark the Merciful]

Zapmeister said:
Mark is still here and is looking well placed to win the game. My reasoning is that the original Big 3 (Pangaea, Ulm and Jotunheim) have each taken a dive. If that pattern continues, then the slowest-starting nation will win and, by my reckoning, that would be T'ien Ch'i.

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Having lost my Pretender (twice), killed four of my most expensive mages in an ill-conceived Communion, and allowed myself to be hemmed into an obscure corner of the map, I'm confident in my ability to turn this game around and win handsomely. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Zapmeister]

I will be away for 3 days (Sat-Mon) this weekend. I'm in the GMT+10 timezone. I should be able to play within 48 hours, but could we have a 72-hour time-limit for the weekend to be safe?

BTW, now that Ulm has been eliminated, Manuk might want to pass administration of the game to someone else. If so, I'm happy to take it on. It's a matter of emailing Mose at esbenshjemmeside@mosehansen.dk and giving him the name of the game and the person you want to tranfer it to.

[Knudsen]

Zapmeister said:
I will be away for 3 days (Sat-Mon) this weekend. I'm in the GMT+10 timezone. I should be able to play within 48 hours, but could we have a 72-hour time-limit for the weekend to be safe?

BTW, now that Ulm has been eliminated, Manuk might want to pass administration of the game to someone else. If so, I'm happy to take it on. It's a matter of emailing Mose at esbenshjemmeside@mosehansen.dk and giving him the name of the game and the person you want to tranfer it to.



And while we are at it. I'm away wednesday to friday. 72-hour limit should work for me as well.

[Bluebird]

Didn't we want to set the timelimit to 72h?

[Manuk]

Done

[Zapmeister]

Shall we lower the timelimit again? I'm actually finding 24 hours can be a bit intense at this late stage of the game, so either 24 or 48 hours would be fine for me.

[Bluebird]

48h is good. Please not any lower.

[Bluebird]

So - is it over ?

[Knudsen]

Bluebird said:
So - is it over ?



Yep.

1. place: R'lyeh
2. place: Caelum
3. place: Man

Everyone else is dead and can safely be ignored.

[Manuk]

Game deleted

[Bluebird]

Well - thank everybody for the nice game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif