Water-9 and ranged weapons

[tinkthank]

A water-9 half-quickness bless works nicely on spellcasters, but it *seems* not to work on missile weapon firers -- can anyone confirm or deny this?

[Endoperez]

I think that it gave 50% chance of extra action that could be used just as normal. Same fatique, same available actions, and just the same for firing a bow than casting a spell.

[Ironhawk]

Tink, what kind of missle weapons are you talking about? Normal bows I would expect to fire two times every other round, ie: 1-2-1-2-1.... But Xbows and other missles with slow rates of fire - I'm not sure how the quickness would interact with them.

[tinkthank]

Ja, it was x-bows -- but I think you are right, I *think* I saw an extra firing every now and then, must have just had bad luck the first few times! Thanks!

[Boron]

tinkthank said:
Ja, it was x-bows -- but I think you are right, I *think* I saw an extra firing every now and then, must have just had bad luck the first few times! Thanks!


Which nation has sacred X-Bows ?!?

[Endoperez]

Vanheim, as an example. Especially its Helheim theme. Vanir enjoy W9 blessing, and AD allows for Vision's Foe which is very usable on indie priests etc. Wait, that's an arbalest! Well, the idea should be apparent: cheap priests can fire cheap magical crossbows.

[tinkthank]

Any cheapo indy priest can carry a crossbow.

[Boron]

tinkthank said:
Any cheapo indy priest can carry a crossbow.


Good idea i could try this with jotunheim http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif.
With forge up visions foe is probably excellent also http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Boron]

Question about Vision foe :
If i use quickness also i should do an attack every 1,5 rounds . Does this get rounded down to 1 attack every round ? Or how will my firing pattern then be ?

[Endoperez]

The Vision's Foe pattern (without quickness) is like this:

fire, reload, reload, fire, reload, reload

With quickness:

fire, reload; reload, fire; reload, reload; fire, reload;...

I haven't tested this, but this is how it should work IMO.

[Rasorow]

Sorry but confused.... each action pattern you listed is the same....

With quickness shouldnt it be faster like

fire, reload, fire, reload, reload, fire, reload, fire, reload, reload, fire,

Not saying that is the actually pattern but shouldnt quickness make them.... well fire quicker?

Rasorow

[Duncanish]

Actually, the second pattern's slightly different. Fire, then two reloads, fire and two reloads, then fire and one reload. Very small increase in rate. The pattern then repeats itself.

[Jack Simth]

Small increase? It goes from firing 1 ever 3 combat rounds to firing in 2/3's of the combat rounds. It's a double!

Rosrow: you're missing his distinction between a semicolon (;) and a comma (,); he is using the semicolon to distinguish between combat rounds, and the comma to distinguish between quickness actions.

[Endoperez]

But it isn't as visible as I had thought. It seems I was wrong, any way.

[The_Tauren13]

With 50% quickness it should be:
fire, reload; reload; fire, reload; reload; etc.
So basically firing every other turn instead of every third turn.

[Boron]

The_Tauren13 said:
With 50% quickness it should be:
fire, reload; reload; fire, reload; reload; etc.
So basically firing every other turn instead of every third turn.


To clarify i was asking what happens if i put jade armor or boots of quickness on a nonsacred commander with a vision foe like e.g. on a firbolg or banelord .

Is it then fire , fire , fire , fire ... or fire , reload , fire , reload , fire ... ?

[The_Tauren13]

fire, fire, reload, fire, fire, reload, etc.