Truper's Revenge - #Dominions - Shahrivar_rev FULL

[archaeolept]

Game is full.

10 players, Shahrivar Revised map.

Since we can't keep track of who's what, please post here.
Also, new turn notices would be great.

truper - barbarian kings
archaeolept - midgard
quantum - ulm
kinglear - the jots
cainehill - pan
hubris - mictlan
boron - man
sedna - oceania
puffyn - abysia
huzur - the lizards

hosting provided by the ever faithful Sheap
IP 67.190.105.206:2001

**Game has now begun. Good luck!**

note - updated IP

[archaeolept]

waiting on tien chi, jots, pan, mictlan http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Cainehill]

*sigh* Might need to set it to 48 hour QH for now, since email / messages weren't sent to let people know the game had started.

[archaeolept]

i don't have emails - plan was always to get it going right away - only hubris seems out of the loop. he's got a few hours...

[Cainehill]

Sent him a PM and he got in. Hopefully now we get rolling. And while that was the plan, yesterday it seemed it might be a while, as quantum needed another 22 hours to download the map. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Cainehill]

Server seems to be down at 5 am California time.

[Hubris]

Yup. Been down all night I think. But so is the server for the other game I'm in. Hopefully I'm not screwed up again.

[Boron]

yeah its down.

[archaeolept]

new IP is 67.190.105.206:2001

waiting for c'tis, jots, and aby

[archaeolept]

new turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Boron]

new turn. Looks promising maybe we can keep up with the pace of götterdämmerung http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Truper]

Turn 5 is up.

And for anyone who might be wondering how this game came to be called Truper's Revenge, I have no clue http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Huzurdaddi]

Truper,

how are you finding those barbarian horsemen? I guess I should wait and ask your 1st victim!

[Truper]

So far so good. They've done a wonderful job routing Barbarians, a job for which they're especially well-suited. Now, if only those Barbarian provinces weren't nearly worthless...

[archaeolept]

new turn - only the jots left to go

As to why this is called Truper's Revenge, have you noticed his insane out of the gate expansion? I send emissaries to the local independents, asking if they would kindly submit to my local authority, and they just laugh in my face. But when I tell them that my god knows Sedestar, the god of t'ien chi, a silence comes over them. They still laugh, but at least its behind my back.

[Truper]

I believe that you will find that Sedestar is the false diety of C'tis. Jade, the one true god, is worshipped and loved by the people of T'ien Ch'i, and all those they have conquered.

[archaeolept]

oops http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

edit: new turn!

[Boron]

Server seems to be down.

[Sedna]

Server seems okay now.

Waiting on Abysia and Mictlan.

[puffyn]

Wow, third turn today... Mictlan and Man want to play and make that 4? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Hubris]

geezus, you guys already are ready for another one?!

Uh, I'm going out of town from Saturday morning until Sunday night, so if we could delay hosting...?

[archaeolept]

since you got your turns in, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif, i've suggested that after this turn hosts it be put to 36 hours, which will give you till early monday sometime to get in the turn - should fit in if you're back sun night.

[Cainehill]

Cool - if KingLear and Boron get their turns in today, we can all get another turn in and then Hubris can take two when he gets in Sunday night. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[archaeolept]

new turn - hubris doesn't have to worry about staling; hopefully he'll be able to get this and next done when he gets back

[Hubris]

I'm back. Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Cainehill]

*growl* WTF ain't Boron taken his turn? He was on channel earlier!

[archaeolept]

waiting on the jots and mictlan http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Cainehill]

BTW, Arch : Might I suggest editting the first post to have people listed by nations? IE :

Arco : Bookworm Joe
Ermor : Undead Ed
Mictlan : Vlad
Pangaea : Treehugger

I think players far more often want to look for the nation and see the player associated with it than the other way around.

[archaeolept]

Jotunheim staled.

[Huzurdaddi]

Maybe he is in down south. If so it may be some time before he has time to think about Dom2.

[archaeolept]

he may well be - certainly the timing corresponds.

on sunday night he had not taken his turn; hosted monday morning - no expansion according to the charts.
Tuesday morning staled.
wednesday morning - I'll be at work, so i won't be able to watch him stale, but its almost host and he has not done his turn.

So looking like 3 stales.

As well, no contact either here or on IRC since saturday.

Which means we can force host or set to AI - hopefully sheap set a master password.

[Boron]

2 hours left now and Jotunheim hasn't done his turn.
I vote for turning to AI, 3 stales in a Row is enough.

[Sedna]

So, is Jot now AI, or did he return and play?

In any event, we can now maybe get back to a quick clip, since most people have already played this turn.

[quantum_mechani]

He returned, hopefully he will be able to keep up the pace now.

[Boron]

Did my turn but Cainehill still has to do his turn. 3 hours left. I hope he doesn't stale.

[Cainehill]

Not a chance. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

New turn.

[Sedna]

2 hours until Mictlan/Hubris stales...

[Cainehill]

36 minutes until he stales a second time. Guess they couldn't contact Sheap this morning to get him to force host. Set another AI, I say.

[puffyn]

Only Ulm and Jotunheim left...

[Cainehill]

New turn - jotuns and mictlan staled.

[Truper]

Mictlan would have just needed to log in to confirm he'd been eliminated. If Vanheim would just hurry up and finish off Jotunheim, we might be able to pick up the pace of this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Cainehill]

If we'd've set Jotunheim to AI the pace would be going much better, and Vanheim wouldn't be getting a bloody free ride. Feh. This is why I was against recruiting outside the blitz regulars.

[Huzurdaddi]

Yeah. Two nations have gotten a pretty free ride so far. It's going to make the game an uphill battle for the rest of us.

Ah well, on the plus side we get to see some neat battles.

[Cainehill]

Neat. KingLear doesn't seem to have ever posted on the boards, making it hard to ask him why he hasn't gone AI.

[archaeolept]

yeah, he posts, but i sent him a PM once and never got a reply - I think its "King Lear"

[Huzurdaddi]

Well it was an interesting game. Some nations got free rides and others didn't and that pretty much told the tale of the tap. GG.

[Cainehill]

Next game, er, turn.

[Sedna]

Turns are getting longer to play, and real life is getting more busy. Would people consider switching to 48 hour schedule?

[archaeolept]

I was just about to suggest moving to 49 hours as of turn 50, but i'm fine w/ whenever http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[puffyn]

I second the move to 48 (or 49) hour quickhost now. Hopefully for the next turn that will host in a few hours...

[archaeolept]

Ok, if there are no objections, i'll try to get in touch w/ Sheap - but its very unlikely this can be done in time for this turn, which will go ahead and host by 3-4 pm EST or so.

[Cainehill]

Weird. A global is reported as going up, but doesn't show in the list of global enchantments. Does this mean Vanheim's caster died the turn he casted it? Bad luck to cast Gift of Health if so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[archaeolept]

no, it was a bug. also ulm's "mechanical militia" mysteriously disappeared at the same time - though it is conceivable (if rather far-fetched) that ctis dispelled it. Who else would bother?

also, quantum's on the case of trying to contact sheap to get the turn length increased - but there are no guarantees that it will be done this turn, so pay attention ;p

[Sedna]

Hmmm... looks like the server's down.

[archaeolept]

back up. 48hr QH.

[Cainehill]

New turn.

[archaeolept]

I've put in a request for hosting to be moved to 60 hrs. During the workweek, I'm just not going to have quite enough time to respond to all the evil invaders

Poor, peaceful Vanheim... ;p

[Sedna]

Water-queen killer.

Uh, 60 hours sounds fine to me. Especially with Truper going all, "Aaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiii, I'm crazy!" it won't be many turns before your domination is complete anyway.

Actually, I have complete faith that with a little more time to plot my dastardly plots I shall emerge victorious. All hail the fish.

[Truper]

Muhahahaha!

[archaeolept]

yah, you disrupted my assaults on QM's two castles though. So while my losses against the WQ's themselves were low, I then didn't have flying castle assault troops and lost a ton of vine ogres ; )

[archaeolept]

Wow. That was some wild battle - I lost my army, except for a handful of my most valuable mages, but won and destroyed some serious moolah in abysian troops and SCs. As is often the case, the mortal troops routed...

of course i had one of my SCs killed by his stupid cyclops, in a different battle, so the turn certainly wasn't all wine and roses

[Truper]

Why has the timer been reset? At... a week? between turns, the game is not worth playing.

[Sedna]

The game is pretty much over, right? I enjoyed smacking around Archeo's god, but I don't think there's much long term hope.

[Truper]

Welp, it depends. But if folks want to pack it in, it would be ok with me.

[archaeolept]

sorry i had ironhawk reset it for 72 hrs - the game's still entertaining, but a lot of work - and i'm worried about next month, since I have 3 11-12 hr days in a row and if a turn falls square over all 3 of them...

that was good work there sedna; I really flaked on throwing my pretender in like that w/out fatigue support.

If you all went against me I'd probably lose just because I couldn't handle the micromanagement http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif - I'm open to a "pantheonic victory" if people want; or we can slog it out some more. I've put the hurt on abysia finally, at least.

[Cainehill]

Heh. I'm open to a pantheonic victory, as long as Man (whose quasit, er, moloch, has been sitting on my capitol the last 20 turns) isn't part of the pantheon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

My game was over long ago - but I've made sure his was too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[archaeolept]

i believe we'd set aside a fairly ample valley where you two can battle for all eternity, like the manichaean kirks.

[Boron]

Cainehill said:

Heh. I'm open to a pantheonic victory, as long as Man (whose quasit, er, moloch, has been sitting on my capitol the last 20 turns) isn't part of the pantheon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

My game was over long ago - but I've made sure his was too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


Mine was over from turn 1 on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif. At least i know now that i extremely dislike Man LoT.
I never had more income than about 350 gold, not much you can do with that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif.

But good job surviving Caine. Pan is really a pain to finish you showed me in this game and even more in Götterdämmerung where Aku couldn't finish you neither for the whole game.

I would vote for Archeo declaring winner but since my nation is so small i see my vote insignificant and would suggest that we should follow what the 4 major nations Oceania, Vanheim, Abysia and Tien Chi suggest.

[archaeolept]

i'll get my turn in this evening.

[Truper]

Well, here's what I'm thinking. For the past 10 or 15 turns, we've been running right up to the deadline on the timer, whatever the timer is set at. This indicates to me that people regard playing their turns as a chore, rather than something enjoyable. I check in every 12 hours or so, to see if there's a new turn, and unless its after the expiry of the timer, the answer is always no. Since the slower a game goes, the less interest I have in it, I vote we just call it off.

[Cainehill]

People also wait til the last moment to keep the clock from creeping forward when it's running QH - one of many bad things about QH as the game runs on.

Not sure if we've been on QH or not, but I think we have.

[archaeolept]

ok guys, i haven't forgotten about you all - its just been a killer week, and i've had to take any leeway i could get

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[archaeolept]

yes yes, the long awaited new turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sedna]

Ah, so close to victory in storming that castle. I love the nether darts (to bring down MR) + enslave mind combo on SCs. I would have won too, if not for those meddling skeletons.

But seeing, as I still managed to lose... I'm prefectly fine calling it quits. I think everyone who's written in so far agrees- though we have yet to here from puffyn.

[archaeolept]

that was another expensive victory for me - yeah, the nether darts were sweet; but i decided to scrape together what i could to hold onto that castle. It was one close fight, no doubt.

I'm still enjoying the game; it's just that i can barely get in the moves http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


I would have won too, if not for those meddling skeletons.


OTOH, i would have wiped out your retreaters if not for that meddling T'ien Chi. I guess Trupe feels protective about your water queen, or something... ;p

[puffyn]

I can take or leave this game right about now, being a bit busy these days and also realizing Vanheim is regrettably well poised. Can't seem to get supercombatants to last more than a few turns of combat these days, but otherwise things aren't entirely hopeless... and I don't want to call it quits if someone out there is still enjoying it.

[Truper]

Hmm. I came to the thread because we're 14 minutes away from both Abysia and Oceana staling. I expected to find that folks had decided to fold. I am ok with playing on, especially as I don't have another game going at the moment.

[archaeolept]

hey, i offered to let you take vanheim if you wanted...

yah, puffyn and sedna staled. Its all good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

anyways, its been a fun game. I've been impressed w/ the new kids ;p as they have a firm grasp of the basics - and if puffyn had had a bit of luck in his attacks, things would be somewhat different.

[puffyn]

Heh, totally forgot about actually playing my turn as opposed to just talking about it, hence the stale... I also regret that my attacks were almost uniformly luckless http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Congrats, archaeo, on your victory.

[archaeolept]

I'm still happy to get some more turns in, since I have my nefarious plans still unfulfilled; however, I can see how puffyn and sedna are not currently a sufficient military obstacle.

if not, good game all.

[Cainehill]

Hey, Pangaea still awaits its rise to pre-emimens! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Sedna]

Poor little Pangaea. So harmless and friendly.

Sorry about that stale. I figured it was the last thing Vanheim would expect me to do... a brilliant plan really.

I think we're being very indecisive about finishing this game. Or... are we?

[Truper]

Well, I got my turn in, in at least a half-assed way. But it looks like Puffyn is about to stale again. I'd say he thinks we're done, as he congratulated Arch on his victory.

[archaeolept]

hey, i'm up for batting away the inordinate number of wolves who seem to like visiting my lands http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sedna]

You think you can take my wolves? You and what Ghost Rider army?!

Oh, yeah, that one...

Well, come under water and say that again!

[puffyn]

Ugh, yeah, sorry, between being sick and travelling I just have not been keeping up with the end game. I'll go turn myself AI and let y'all duke it out if you so desire...

[Truper]

Well, I guess I'd like to keep the game running, unless we start a new one, that is http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

One with victory conditions, so we can avoid this "play on or not?" wishy-washyness we have going now. I'm still having some fun.

[Boron]

Truper said:
Well, I guess I'd like to keep the game running, unless we start a new one, that is http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

One with victory conditions, so we can avoid this "play on or not?" wishy-washyness we have going now. I'm still having some fun.


Yeah lets start a new game. I can try Ctis then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Ironhawk]

Keep me in mind for your next game. I should have time for dom2 again come next week (the 14th)!

[archaeolept]

heh - went fishin' and fished me up some right good grub ;p


Puffyn - good game.

[Ironhawk]

Hey there was a power outage at the server and I need to restart your game. I can't remember how many hours you were using on your host schedule, tho. If you want me to actually restart it, let me know. Otherwise perhaps this is a good point to call the game, given that people are so-so on playing?

[archaeolept]

new turn just started, so you can restart w/ full hrs no prob - as to whether the game is still goind, everyone except boron got in their turns ... I don't think i can be stopped, though : )

oh, it was 72 hrs btw

[Boron]

archaeolept said:
new turn just started, so you can restart w/ full hrs no prob - as to whether the game is still goind, everyone except boron got in their turns ... I don't think i can be stopped, though : )

oh, it was 72 hrs btw


Yeah i was affected by the crash. I will get my turn in when the server is up again if the server is up again in the next 2 hours, otherwise it will have wait till tomorrow.

[archaeolept]

heh, no the 72 hr hosting was well before the crash; you just staled ;p

ironhawk, pls do start it up again - i'm sure people want to see their turns; maybe continue for a while, maybe not.

[Boron]

Server still down. Is the game ended or will the server be back in the near future ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Truper]

Oh, the game is over, and has been since about the time Huzur folded. But unless we actually get a new one organized, this still provides some entertainment.

Its horrifying that anyone as good as Arch is also as lucky as he is.

[Ironhawk]

Server is back up. Sorry about the delay, I didnt see that you'd posted in this thread. PM's get my attention faster http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Boron]

Truper said:
Its horrifying that anyone as good as Arch is also as lucky as he is.


Yeah i always have bad luck with dicing. Happened a lot recently in Civ 4 too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[archaeolept]

6 hrs left; only waiting on truper

[Ironhawk]

So... about you stopping this game so that I can get in the next one....

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[archaeolept]

ok probably game's over then - its been a blast. props to everyone.

if aby were still around there could be a fight - but I just noticed his forces are now besieging the centre of sedna's undersea empire. And i've got a sneaking suspicion that truper staled ;p

really, I still enjoy it ("all my pretties") but a new game makes more sense, and I don't really have the time for this next turn. If I have to I'll get in a hack turn though.