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GriffinOfBuerrig
August 22nd, 2005, 03:11 PM
Yor global enchantment was overpowered by the existing global entchantment and failed to take effect.

I do not understand this what happened??

Psitticine
August 22nd, 2005, 03:15 PM
There can only be 5 global enchantments active at one time. When you (or somebody else) tries to cast a 6th one, one of the existing ones is selected at random and its power is compared to the power of the new spell (i.e. the number of gems used in their casting are compared, which is why it can pay off to put extra gems into a spell). If the new spell is stronger than the old, the old one is dispelled and replaced by the new one. If the old one is stronger, the new one fails and you get the message about it being overpowered by the existing global enchantment.

magnate
August 22nd, 2005, 04:31 PM
This can also happen if you try to cast a global that someone else has already cast - yours has to compete with the existing one, and may fail.

GriffinOfBuerrig
August 22nd, 2005, 08:50 PM
Ahhh, thank you! Great to know!

Ballbarian
August 23rd, 2005, 12:36 AM
one of the existing ones is selected at random and its power is compared to the power of the new spell



What if 4 global enchanments belong to you, and the 5th one belongs to an enemy. If you cast a 6th global, will it automatically attempt to override the enemy global, or is there a risk of overriding one of your own globals? In my current game, I have hesitated to cast another global for fear of killing one of my own like this. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Cainehill
August 23rd, 2005, 09:17 AM
Pretty sure I've taken one of my own out before, so - the odds seem 4 to 1 that you'd take out one of your own. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Vrtra_Vanquisher
August 23rd, 2005, 10:53 AM
The spell can override an enemy, I had
five spells up and running last night.
Guess I got lucky. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
(hmm, four to one, I might place
some bets on the horses today!) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Ballbarian
August 23rd, 2005, 11:47 AM
hmmmm, not the best odds. Think I'll just stick with the current situation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

GriffinOfBuerrig
August 23rd, 2005, 01:27 PM
So what about dispelling one and casting out the other spell in the same turn, does that work?

Endoperez
August 23rd, 2005, 02:13 PM
It could, but the spellcasting order is pretty random. The mages always cast their spells in the same order in relation to each other, except when that order is reversed, but there is still that chance of it being reversed. Too costly, as it would cost you the cost of either a global or a dispel, both pretty hefty when all the global slots aren't enough anymore.

Nerfix
August 23rd, 2005, 03:07 PM
Endoperez said:
It could, but the spellcasting order is pretty random. The mages always cast their spells in the same order in relation to each other, except when that order is reversed, but there is still that chance of it being reversed. Too costly, as it would cost you the cost of either a global or a dispel, both pretty hefty when all the global slots aren't enough anymore.



Um, doesn't it go in alphabetic order by nations? That's the way it went in Dom I as far as I know. At least movement phases worked so.


I think. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

Psitticine
August 23rd, 2005, 04:19 PM
I'm not sure about spells. Different things go in different orders; some are by province number, some are by unit number, some are random, etc.

Vrtra_Vanquisher
August 23rd, 2005, 04:33 PM
GriffinOfBuerrig said:
So what about dispelling one and casting out the other spell in the same turn, does that work?



Yes, I think it would.
What I've done is dispelling first, then cast
my new globalspell the next turn, thus getting
five globalspells up and running.
Your idea though would save us one turn.
Sadly I will not have time to try this out
before friday or saturday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif