Power of the eye - now on 48 Quickhost

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Hiho,

here the data:

Map: Desert Eye
Players: 8 Players
Victory Conditions: 8 VP(one per capital) to win
Mods: none
Research: Standard
Indies: 7
Hof: 15

Quickhost: 24 hours, later 48 or maybe 72.

Connection settings: dom2.mosehansen.dk
Port: 2220

Special rule: No one goes AI, even if he face me - better tell in the forum here and we will find together a sub.

https://www.mosehansen.dk/cgi-bin/dom2.pl?page=BrowseGamePage&game=Power_of_the_eye



I will take emor, and i don´t think that anyone stands a chance http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Player List:

1. Emor - GriffinOfBuerrig
2. Jotunheim - RobMum
3. Phytium - izaqyos
4. Ulm - Shmonk
5. Man - Bluebird
6. R'lyeh - Tyrant
7. Arco - Catquiet
8. Marignon - Arholly

[WraithLord]

I will join as...
surprise surprise. Pythium http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Shmonk]

I'd like to reserve Ulm (will upload pretender later today).

[Bluebird]

I am joining as Man ...

[Tyrant]

I'll take R'lyeh.

Fyi, Vps for capitols only means that capitols will be known.

[Catquiet]

I'll take Arco.

[Arholly]

I'll join. I'll play Marignon.

[WraithLord]

@Romanus. I'm sorry but I called Pythium first.
No nation kidnapping allowed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Arholly]

I'll be posting my pretender tonight.

[Arholly]

Hey, how do I join it. It is not showing Mar. on the list.

[Cainehill]

Bah. Thought I had a another day or so to grab a nation. Ah well - have fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

(But, I did buy a new car yesterday and today - more or less my first, and it'll save me so much over the rental cars I've been using lately.)

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Hey, grats to your first car!

Make your Pretender(without Mods), klick on network, type for server dom2.mosehansen.dk and then second 2220 for the port, click on marigion, watch the wonderfull message and come back here to the forum!

[Catquiet]

izaqyos said:
@Romanus. I'm sorry but I called Pythium first.
No nation kidnapping allowed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



I don't think Romanus uses the forums much. 1 post total and I can't find a thread for his Sky_walker game.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

@izaqyos: Please check if you have the slot for phytium and not romanus, the game will start within the next 3 hours!

Game has started, good luck!

[Bluebird]

Have fun everyone.

[WraithLord]

GriffinOfBuerrig said:
@izaqyos: Please check if you have the slot for phytium and not romanus, the game will start within the next 3 hours!

Game has started, good luck!



Spot is mine. Guess luck is on my side, first good event of the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Shmonk]

Good luck to you all.

And turn 2 is up. It's looking like I might win this game... though it could be too soon to tell. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Arholly]

I'm not sure if you'll win Ulm, but I put you in the top 3.

Arholly - Marignon

[Arholly]

This is shaping up to be an excellent game already.

Now, where is that Ermor...Come here little undead. I have a few priests who wish to talk to you about getting some rest.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

No Problem, Marigion :-]

I am always happy to have some corpses more in my army with some better equipment.

You are already dead all. Nothing will stop this process.

[Arholly]

Yeah...Well, we'll see about that (whispering to his trump cards). The whole reason I took Marignon is to see how it stands up to Ermor, if it comes down to that.

It's nice my gem production is already higher than yours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Incidentally, I am doing an AAR offline of this game. When the game is over, I'll put it out. It's kind of interesting writing it. Of course, I decided to start it today, 4 turns into the game, so the first two turns might be a little off but it will be accurate from this point out.

[Shmonk]

And... next turn is up.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

And again!

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Amd another turn.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Ohoh, Pythium/izaqyos has staled one turn :-/

[Bluebird]

Yea - so early in the game. Thats bad. Hope he will join us again this turn ...

[WraithLord]

GriffinOfBuerrig said:
Ohoh, Pythium/izaqyos has staled one turn :-/



I don't understand how come I staled. I checked last evening on the game and it was waiting for one of the nations.
I should have had at least until this evening to check again!

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Mhm, yesterday evening you where the last one we waited for.

That quite bad for you i hope you do not have to much troubles now.

I always make my move double, first i play on the server then i connect again to the server.

PS: And i hope that you also see that your turn is not in in the moment.

[Bluebird]

Are you using my tool "God's Eye" to check ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[WraithLord]

On Saturday evening I was the last one to play. I played two turns consecutively.
Yesterday, Sunday evening, I wasn't the last one. There was one nation (don't recall which) that didn't play.
for the record I'm on GMT+2 time zone.

Sure, if I staled for some reason, that my turn isn't in. I will only be able to play it this evening.

@Bluebird, what is your "God's eye" tool?

I hate stale turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Bluebird]

A small tools to query a dom2 server for the current status (easier and more reliable than connecting).

http://www.fams.de/dom2.html

[WraithLord]

Bluebird said:
A small tools to query a dom2 server for the current status (easier and more reliable than connecting).

http://www.fams.de/dom2.html



Wow! Great little utility. I hope I can put it to good use and avoid any and all stales from now on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Shmonk]

And a new turn is up!!

[WraithLord]

Yeapi http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Shmonk]

We are now on turn 11.

[Arholly]

Let the game REALLY begin. <grin>

Arholly/Marignon

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Grrr, dammn anoying Assasins http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Arholly]

<whistles innocently> Whatever do you mean?

[Bluebird]

Looks like I have to equip my comanders with some bodyguards - already that early in the game *sigh*

[Arholly]

Keeps those troops from doing other productive things, like killing ME!

[Arholly]

And besides, only my enemies have to fear my assassins.

And since Ermor and I have gotten off to such a rousing start...<grin>

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

@izaqyos: your turn is not in yet, i hope there are no probs!

[WraithLord]

None, besides living on the wrong half of the globe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[WraithLord]

new turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Bluebird]

izaqyos said:
None, besides living on the wrong half of the globe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



The side of the globe is the right one. Your problem is that you are not sitting there 24/7 to wait for the next turn. That is a real sin. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Arholly]

I'm beginning to think that Jotunheim and Ermor are allied with each other. That can't be good...

[Shmonk]

Good?!? Of course not, why, that would make giant undead, when combined into one force. And that's just wrong! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[WraithLord]

new turn

[Arholly]

Yeah, but Jotunheim is a Bog Mummy, so it makes sense.

[Arholly]

I liked the activity over this weekend.

BTW, I gave up on my AAR. Too much happened this weekend and I forgot to write it up.

[WraithLord]

@GriffinOfBuerrig, Would it be possible to skip hosting this saturday (19/09)?- I'm afraid it's very likely that I won't be able to play. Maybe instead of 24h set the timer to 36h or 48h?

[Ballbarian]

Sorry to hear that you gave up on your AAR Arholly. I was looking forward to reading it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Okidoki, i will set it on a 48 hour timer on saturday, i will it set back on Sunday evening or in that night!

*chofs*

[Arholly]

I will post what I can off it for people. A shame though I was the first to go. Figures, the one who organizes the big anti-Ermor alliance is the first to bite the dust, from Jotunheim no less! <grumbles happily>

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Hey Arholly, that was really a good game. The best die young.

Your Archmage would have make terrible things in late game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Arholly]

Yeah, it really helped in finding sites. It's why my gem production ramped up so quickly. It also helped me make items (like anti-undead crossbows my assassins were getting equipped with).

Of course, my allies got all my gems before I died, so that was ok.

I'm sure some of my allies were surprised to receive 25 gems each early on. And it was nice to have allies that quickly. I will still watch here for interesting happenings.

[Shmonk]

Don't know if it's waiting on the host or not, but I took my turn, and I was the last player for this turn, yet it still shows it's waiting for Marignon to take his turn, even though we got the message he was vanquished.

Any reason why the game isn't hosting yet? I was hoping to play my turns back to back.

[Bluebird]

Eight little pretenders
trying to own heaven.
Some Jarls guarded the way,
this only left seven.

Seven little pretenders
-to be continued-

[Arholly]

It was waiting for me. I hopped on, read the message I had been demolished 8) and logged off. Might want to set me to AI now.

[Bluebird]

Not necessary - I think it is always just an effect of the last turn, before you are dead.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Heyda, Powe of the eye is now on 48 h quickhost

We will see after the weekend if he toogle it back to 24 h.
cheers
Griffin

[WraithLord]

New turn guys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I was the last to take the turn and while I was starting it I accidently pressed the 'e' button http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
This accursed feature caused me to lose that turn...
I might as well add this to the wish list to ask the devs to add a confirmation window for this.

[Arholly]

What's going on? Give an update someone?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Oki: Jotunheim is nearly dead after a straight attack from Arco with his Pretender.

Emor is busy with Ulm, Man and R´ley and is doing well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Arholly]

Just wait for Arco to join the Ermor pile on.

Come on Ulm, Man, and R'ley!!! Go team!!!

The spiritual cheerleader, Marignon.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

They are team.

[Tyrant]

More of a loose alliance against death. I really hate BoT ;<

[Arholly]

BoT?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

I thinkn you mean ashen emoire and not Burden of time.

[Jurri]

Maybe he meant GoB! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Bluebird]

Man is facing death.

[Arholly]

Ouch!

Come on guys, stop that bloody sot Ermor!

I mean, please stop Ermor from winning!

And I demand a rematch!

[Catquiet]

Jotunheim is pretty much done for, and I am ready to move on Ermor. Hopefully, the armies of Arco can turn the tide.

Dibs on Jotunheim for the rematch.

[Shmonk]

Just waiting on Ryleh... hope he doesn't stale, down to 5 1/2 before the next turn.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

In the end... death is always the winner.

[Bluebird]

Very philosophical ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Catquiet]

GriffinOfBuerrig said:
In the end... death is always the winner.



And what is death's prize for this great victory? Dust and ashes and rotting meat.

------------
My candle burns at both ends;
It will not last the night;
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends--
It gives a lovely light!
-- Millay

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Hoppala,

one of my three Emor Yells;) "In the end... death is always the winner."

Next turn is out sorry you had to wait so long.

[Shmonk]

Well, you'll be yelling for mercy soon, I don't doubt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

Just 11 hours for next turn, waiting on R'lyeh.

[Tyrant]

...from smacking it into Ermor repeatedly. I marched to his capitol, knocked down the wall, and got throught the gate....but lost >: We did kill 17 leaders, mostly or entirely mound kings and sages. Apparantly this ticked him off 'cause he stopped resarch and sent all his mages out to chase me. He's pushed me all the way back int othe sea and is now besieging my capitol.

Irish stand down with the undead = very poor plan, hehe.

Maenwhile Arco, Ulm and Pythium are doing well.

[Bluebird]

Tyrant said:
Maenwhile Arco, Ulm and Pythium are doing well.



... and I am still alive, which suprises me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

Bernd

[Shmonk]

Another new turn is up.

Ermor is dying a slow death it seems. Arco is sieging his capital, and Rlyeh is right outside, ready to take over if Arco fails. Then I'm next in line.

Step right up, take a whack at Ermor. Come one come all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

*Gnaaaa*

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

very soon i will launch my secret doom weapon! You will wonder(if i live long enough)
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[Bluebird]

You can take revenge on me in Metzel and Pain /threads/images/Graemlins/icon25.gif

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

I have 3 earth boots
1 ring of regeneration
1 bag of wine
1 herald lance will sell them for the hightes bid of death gems.

So, i hear!

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Secret doom weapon planted.

[WraithLord]

I gave orders for last turn this morning from my desktop.
I wanted to change one of my mages script so I've accessed the server from my laptop.
But when I've accessed it from my laptop I couldn't see any of the orders I gave this morning. So I did "quit w/o saving".
I wonder at two things.
First, if that's normal behavior or does that signify some error in giving the orders that might result maybe in a stale turn?
The second is whether or not accessing the server from one computer, giving orders then accessing from another computer resets the turn?- If that is the case then I need to replay the turn, Which sadly I can't do. At least not until tomorrow morning, when I'll have access to my desktop at home.

Any information or insight on the subject is most welcome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

It seems that on your laptop in your Power_of_the_eye folder is NO *.2h file, am i right? If thats that way nothing has changed. IF there is a 2h file i have no idea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[WraithLord]

there's a .2h file but it's from last month. I suppose that means that no orders for the host were issued from the laptop today. Which works fine for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Thanks Griffin.

I wonder how many death gems in game is an asnswer such as that worth??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

70 gems http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[WraithLord]

Burden of time is not welcomed at this time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Shmonk]

What's Ermor still doing around, is he trying for a comeback or something? Nah... that's not going to happen (I hope).

I believe Man was terribly hurt this last turn. After walking through some of my territory, his army (that included his god and prophet), met a stronger force, and both perished to my Ulmish defense.

Now Arco, on the other hand, I need to watch out for. A tougher nut to crack.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

I am trying kill as many people and destroying as much as i can now...the emorian way http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Bluebird]

Shmonk said:
I believe Man was terribly hurt this last turn. After walking through some of my territory, his army (that included his god and prophet), met a stronger force, and both perished to my Ulmish defense.




Yea, you really got my balls there. But I am still struggling (and that hurts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif ).

Actually the main reason why my army failed so miserably was that my Air 10 pretender was 'muted' by the BoT - thanks again for that, Griffin. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

[WraithLord]

I've seen something weird this last turn.
I got a message that Arco has cast a global spell, wrath of god.
But then I noticed two strange things. First, I had no casualties from it and second it didn't appear in the list of globals.

How come???

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Them BoT had no other goal, than causing trouble http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[WraithLord]

BoT is bad enough but the real killer is the global darkness spell, can't recall it's name. Now that's some real trouble to the live nations.

[shovah]

UtterDark i beleve it i called

[Catquiet]

izaqyos said:
I've seen something weird this last turn.
I got a message that Arco has cast a global spell, wrath of god.
But then I noticed two strange things. First, I had no casualties from it and second it didn't appear in the list of globals.

How come???



My caster was killed by flame bolts.

[WraithLord]

I understand, thanks for the explanation.

[Shmonk]

Hmm... Fires from Afar. Ya gotta like that spell. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Bluebird]

Well, that was it for me. Thank you folks for the game. It was fun.

[Shmonk]

Well, we have all played our turn, but it shows that it's still waiting for Man to take his final turn. I think.

[WraithLord]

God's eye tool reports that next hosting is in 19h and waiting for host...

[WraithLord]

I have a technical question.
Since the turns are getting to large for one sitting I'd have liked to be able to be able to give orders and be able to save them so that I can continue later.

Is to possible to press the 'save and quit' instead of end turn and then be able to continue later? If I'm the last player to take the turn in a quick host wouldn't that trigger a hosting?

TIA

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

No, you should connect to the game instead of prssing on the button of your nation(before the messages), you press exit, goto "play an existing game" and find there your PowerOfTheEye.

When your ready just connect to the server again and enjoy the "your turn has been uploaded" or such message.

*cheers*

[WraithLord]

Wow, this works great.
Thank you Griffin.

[Bluebird]

Oops - sorry that you had to wait for my last turn. Forgot to connect for the last time. I hope everything is fine now.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

You are welcome, i always use that system when i am the last one who makes his move, because i have staled once a turn after i got problems while making the turn(i thnik my router redialed that momment).

Any Statistic for the dead ones?

[Shmonk]

Looks like Arco is about to stale this turn (3 min left until hosting).

[WraithLord]

Did Arco stale?

[Shmonk]

Yes, I believe so.

[WraithLord]

Catquiet, may I ask if you're still in the game?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

He is also out without a word in Metzel and pain...

[WraithLord]

Maybe we should delay the next hosting by a couple of days? Give catquiet some time before he stales again.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

If you want this, just ask and i do it...

[WraithLord]

I think it's fair we wait a bit for catquiet to respond.
Griffin, can you please delay the hosting for another 48 hours?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

OKi, gameoptions are changed.

[Shmonk]

Great, we hate to see someone stale so late in the game, if it can be avoided.

[Catquiet]

Sorry about the stale turns, we got hit pretty hard by the hurricane down in North Lauderdale. I'm running on a generator at the moment and I don't think I will be able to finish up the game. Switch me over to AI or get a sub. I messaged my password to griffin.

[WraithLord]

I'm sorry to hear about your problem with the hurricane.
Hope you'll get back to normal life soon.

I vote for switching Arco to AI. I'm not sure we can get a willing sub for Arco at it's current situation.
What do you say guys?

[WraithLord]

I saw that turn 71 has hosted.
Is it because Arco is already AI?

Edit,
I checked and Arco has not played turn 72. If it was AI it would have already played it.
So I guess the hosting wasn't expected.

[WraithLord]

I believe we have waited long enough. I want to end this game while I still have my teeth on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Does anyone object to switching Arco to AI and returning to 48 h schedule?
@Griffin, If there are no objections can you please do that?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Oki, Acro is now AI and the next turn is up!

[Shmonk]

Great, can't wait to get home and play the next turn.

[WraithLord]

GriffinOfBuerrig said:
Oki, Acro is now AI and the next turn is up!


Great!

Thanks Griffin.

[Tyrant]

Just wanted to to give props to Shmonk, I haven't seen anyone do well in MP with regular Ulm before.

[Shmonk]

Thanks...

Of course, I just made a BIG mistake. I had to go out of town for a last minute work trip Thursday, and that got extended to Friday. So I get back and check all my turns, thinking I submitted them all before I left.. and didn't submit a turn for this game. I think I made 3 or 4 moves Wed night before leaving, expecting to be back Thursday night to finish the rest of the turn. ARGH!! So I basically did nothing for a turn.

But hey, my treasury is really high this turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[WraithLord]

The turns are..taking...so....loooooong!

We are at turn 79 now. Maybe it's just that I'm slow but for the last turn I've exceeded the two hours limit.

Well, win or lose my hopes are for a quick ending.

Though, it doesn't seem likely to happen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

so here's to the completion of turn 79 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/beerglass.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/beerglass.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/beerglass.gif

[Shmonk]

I know, I didn't know it could take this long for each turn. Now I can see why people say in the forums that they don't like big maps as much. I mean I'm having fun, but easily 2 hours, because I get distracted, or I think of different things and change all my orders, plus I kind of like the micromgmt sometimes (and other times hate it).

Also, with the holidays coming up these long turns may actually be helpful (if we don't pause over Thanksgiving or Christmas). Or if it ends quickly.

I'll try and finish my turn tonight (Tuesdays are bad for me though). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Tyrant]

Hate to say guys....but this is a smallish map for the number of players we had.

[WraithLord]

I'd say this smallish map is large enough for me :-)

How many provinces does it have anyway? I wonder how it compares in size to, say, Faerun map.

[Shmonk]

True, for the number of players we started with it was a smallish map. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger the more we eliminate people. Now that we're down to 3, it seems bigger (ie more provinces per player).

And you're right, now I'm wondering if I would enjoy the end game on a Faerun map or not. Talk about taking a few hours per turn. Yikes!

[dzbabi]

Sorry it takes solong for my turns, my pc is broken for the momment, so please be patient. Thank you!

[Tyrant]

Ok, that was the silliest damn battle i have yet been a party to. Why exactly did your army explode? Was that a communion combustion?

Are you guys going to fight this out the bitter end or just call it a draw after you finish me off?

[Shmonk]

Hmm... must have missed that battle, sounds like it would have been interesting to watch.

Yes, we are planning to fight it out to the bitter end... unless Izaqyos wants to concede. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[WraithLord]

@Tyrant, I was experimenting with different buffs for communion. one of them phoenix pyre. In shorter battles it might actually be useful. Certainly for good use of it I need to add reinvigoration spells (relief) and keep them slaves spaced up and far from non fire resistant troops/commanders.

@Shmonk,
I have saved all the game turns. When the game ends you can see this battle. It is an interesting battle that ends with great explosions of communion slaves that wipe out most of my army.

Bitter end, Bitter end, Bitter end...
I think it will be bitter end for me, no sugar please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Tyrant]

I held my capitol against the first Ulmish assault, but i will not survive another.

Good game guys, post here at the end and let me know who won!

Either of you think that you have the edge? I cannot tell from the info i have.

[WraithLord]

@Tyrant, Thanks for a superb game. Your armies at jotunheim annihilated my forces in droves. Your battlefield strategy exploited very well my mistakes. You had me greeting my teeth in frustration time after time :-)

As I said before, I have kept this games turns. I can possibly upload them when the game's over.

[Shmonk]

I've kept my turns also.

I think it will be an interesting endgame. If there are any good battles, I will post screenshots and highlights, if I can.

[Shmonk]

I've PMed Griffin. I'm hoping he can pause this game, since he started it, on Mosehansen. I will be out of town after tomorrow until next year (Jan 1), and I probably won't be able to finish this turn. The end turns are taking a long time for me to figure out what to do.

I hope this is okay with you Izaqyos (and Tyrant, you're still alive, though probably not after this turn).

[WraithLord]

This is fine by me.

Also it would be nice if the turns would be scheduled for five days. I find that four days for such a long turns is stressing.

[Shmonk]

I haven't heard back from Griffin, and this is my last chance to check email. I hope he can pause the game before the time expires tomorrow. I'd rather pause it than stale.

If we unfortunately stale, I guess we should just call it a tie.

Izaqyos, I hope you can get a hold of Griffin, I tried looking for an email address, but couldn't find one. Maybe you'll get lucky and see him respond to this forum in time.

Oh well. Happy holiday!!

[WraithLord]

Alas, I don't have Griffin's email as well.
I will probably also partially stale as I haven't had time to do nearly half the things I wanted done.

Clearly it ain't fair that you'd stale all the holiday. We cab either call it a tie or maybe stale together.

I guess with the turns taking so long now it is possible that we call it a tie. Though I feel I have a good chance to win, I'm sure you feel the same :-)

[WraithLord]

@Shmonk, I take it that you have staled last turn. After playing this game for a few months and investing so much time into it I hate to see it go unresolved. Then again, this is an unusual situation where we can't get a hold of the game's host. For the sake of fairness I concede to calling it a tie.

[WraithLord]

I have noticed that the timer is now set to more then 200 hours. which are about nine days. I'd say this will prevent any more stales. Taking into account that I wasn't able to give much orders the last turn would you consider continuing this game until the end?- I will understand if you don't but I'd be thrilled if we'll get the chance to bring this to game to a clear resolution.

[Shmonk]

I'm back.

I didn't give any orders last turn, so if we both staled, I'm fine with continuing on for a bit. I'm kind of conceding since I didn't submit any orders last turn while you did. But playing it out will be fun on the off chance I think I can turn it around and have a chance of winning.

Thanks again Griffin for changing the hosting schedule so we only had 1 stale.

Shmonk

[WraithLord]

I didn't stale last turn. I rushed my orders since I didn't have time so my turn wasn't complete either.
This is why I left it for you to decide. I would have decided the same thing had I been in your position. Simply for the fact that I don't care that much about the wining part. For me having fun is more important.

Anyway. Thanks for agreeing to continue. And best of luck!

BTW, in the turn you've staled you've killed my prophet and one of my demon lords. not bad for a stale http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Edit: @Griffin, thanks for prolonging the hosting. I think it'd be good if the hosting is switched back to something like five days , 120h.
Editx2: come to think of it, it's best to leave it as is. please disregard my request.

[Shmonk]

Izaqyos, I hate to say it I have to concede. While I'd like to continue on for fun, I just don't have any time right now. The new year has started off with a "bang" and I have little time for this game, which takes a few hours a turn, if I really want to think about it and strategize.

It was fun though, and I got to see a lot of high level magic, so I know what to expect in the end game for other games. Great game, by the way. It was close.

[WraithLord]

Shmonk, I want to thank you for a great game. For me the end game was a new experience and I have learned a lot about this phase. Yes, the game was close, though I had the (purely subjective) feeling I was getting the upper hand http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

The truth is I'm a bit disappointed that you chose to concede, for I had some real fun in the last few rounds of our "Armageddon" war. Nonetheless I understand very well the burden of the last turns and why you have reached your decision.

I want to thank all the players of this game. This evening I will post a compressed file containing Pythium turns in this game for whomever might find them interesting.

Edit: I forgot the mention how impressed I am with the way you have played base Ulm. Truly remarkable. I would really like to learn more about your strategy, if you don't mind sharing it that is.

[Shmonk]

Sorry for the slow response. You played a great game also. While I'd like to think I had a chance, I don't think I did. I was not prepared to launch any major assaults, I was still getting groups organized, and learning new spells and the best benefits.

I think the last few turns I threw up every global I had access to, just to see what would happen. As evidenced by the last round, getting Mechanical Militia and Fata Morgana right before all of your attacks, that actually helped stop 1 or 2 attacks, and cut down on your forces in the other attacks.

Attached is my last turn file (pwd = newulm1). No big strategy on my part. I used an enchantress that saw little or no battles, she was strictly a rainbow / site searcher - 3F 3A 2W 3E 3S 3D 3N. And I found a few libraries close by, so got sages pretty quickly. Having the rainbow mage got me into the sea quicker, and gave me some good income early.

Getting the alliance with you when I did helped, I was ready to expand into 1 or 2 nations, and making the alliance with you got me to go take out Marignon instead (nicely softened up by Ermor), then try and take out Man (which was a tough fight). Like a dummy, I started attacking Man while still at war with Arco, so I was getting attacked on 2 fronts. But I prevailed.

I had Gift of Health up early, and even Forge of Ancients up right after that, and made LOTS of items, so that helped with expansion too. I think I had 3/4 of the unique items at one point, that I had access to (no blood stuff). I forged what I could, just to see how it worked and which I liked best.

Anyway, feel free to peruse my turn file. No big strategy, just expand slowly, search, and got lucky with sages and good gem income. My final gem income was = 27F,30A,25W,33E,23S,12D,19N.

I hope to get this far in another game. Until we meet again WraithLord (changed your name).

Shmonk

[WraithLord]

Thanks for the insight on your strat.

For whomever might find this interesting I will give my account of the game.
The turn files I can't give as of yet as I am using the same passwd. for one of my current games (stupid, I know).

Usually I like to take an SC for pythium to get them started early with expansion. I have successfully used virtue in the past. Previous MP games exposed a weakness in one of my favorite strats. with pythium which is using large communions. Those were countered by spells that kill low HP targets on all the battlefield like earthquake for example. Those spells kill most of the communicants on round one. To counter that I took a S9F2 Oracle. The S9 gives twist of fate. The F2 I think was a mistake and I might gave done better with E4. I took scales order 3, sloth 3, heat 0, luck -2, magic 3 with castle.

First few rounds were very bad for me because I couldn't expand well. At that phase I considered the game forfeit. Then the communion circles started doing their work and my expansion has accelerated.

I had a peach agreement with R'lyeh. At that time Arco was the greatest power in the game by a large margin. So I started a war with Arco. During this war I've used the oracle as to teleport on large armies and astral tempest them. I have had many harbingers and A. angels which I used to raid his provinces. They proved to be a failure because they are to frail and Arco has hunted them all down. By the time he did the war was starting to go our way. IIRC I also delivered the coup de grace to Ermor. Finishing Arco proved to be a difficult task for he had created large armies of summoned critters.

Next target was R'lyeh. They had one tough army in Jotunheim. The army was made of something like four abominations and many starspwan mages casting enslave mind. The battles against this army were always spectacular. I have brought large armies against it, sometimes with more the thirty communicants. But time after time they were defeated. At the end it was attrition that killed this army.

research wise I rushed to astral tempest then wish. I then put an arcane nexus global up, I think I've put something like 200 extra astral gems into it. Indeed it had lasted for a long time allowing to cast wish each and every turn until the end. Wishing got me a thriving blood eco and I've summoned all the blood royalty. I kept them from doing much battles because I wanted them to be a surprise for you. At the end game I had all the blood royalty. In addition to two vampire counts, fallen angels and three wraith lords, which I didn't even get a chance to use in battle http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

All in all it was a fun game albeit somewhat time consuming. I want thank all the players and Griffin for hosting.

Oh and it is my first Dom-II MP victory, to be celebrated by bawdy dancing and feasting :-)

BTW,
Thought the new name more fitting than my university login...

[Shmonk]

Yes, thanks for hosting, Griffin, and good game by all others.

I don't remember my scales (I'm at work currently), but I have a hard time taking any negative scales, I usually take heat or cold 1, and that's it. Yet I see all players taking Order 3 Sloth 3 or some other combo of 3s. And I just have a hard time wanting to play those scales. I've tried them in SP, but maybe not the right combo. And I definitely did not have a bless strategy, that's my next goal, going for a strong bless strategy.

If you didn't guess/know already, I did dispel your Arcane Nexus. I think I dispeled one other of yours also. It just drove me nuts that when you got Arcane Nexus up, everything I was forging/casting was giving you gem income, and I hated that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif So I saved up some astral, and got lucky and dispeled it the first time.

I can't wait to see your turn file, just to see your army. I've never fought pyth, so the communion guys was driving me nuts on trying to figure out how to best counter them. And your battles with R'lyeh were fun to watch, I don't believe I had any big battles like that (that I won, at least).

And I did the same thing on my first few MP games, using the same password. Doh!

[shovah]

if you want to try a bless strategy go with the reliable e9 n9 neifel jarls or the fragile and deadly f9+s/a9 flagelants. both are solid and also coem with nations with good units/mages

[WraithLord]

Shmonk, Now that the password is (and will) not used anymore I can attach the turn files.
Password is 040776

For some reason I can not find the starting turns but turn 57 until the end are attached.

[Oversway]

e9 n9 neifel jarls



These would be great troops but you arn't going to be able to afford very many... a dual bless eats up scales like crazy, and there arn't any cheap (like an immobile) with earth and nature. Would you use the earth mother?

[Shmonk]

Thanks!! I will check them out tonight. I take it you were using the same password in the RAND game (just reading the thread on that).

[shovah]

i usually do use great mother, but sometimes i go with a n9 e6 master druid (or even great mother) because your scales can be more forgiving (the e9n9 bless is amazing to make sc's out of neifels units because they have build in regen, reinvig and berserk (which means you can use them in groups because if they go berserk then it dosnt matter if one dies)

[WraithLord]

Shmonk said:
Thanks!! I will check them out tonight. I take it you were using the same password in the RAND game (just reading the thread on that).

Caught me red handed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif