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ioticus
September 7th, 2005, 01:25 PM
If you cast Gift of Reason on a feebleminded Tartarian and then heal the affliction with a Chalice, will the Tartarian then have magic ability?
Alneyan
September 7th, 2005, 01:28 PM
If the Tartarian has any magic to begin with (I think all do, and I know most do), yes.
ioticus
September 7th, 2005, 01:35 PM
Alneyan said:
If the Tartarian has any magic to begin with (I think all do, and I know most do), yes.
The description in Zen's summoning guide states that only Tartarian commanders have magic paths, so maybe the Tartarian doesn't have magic paths since he is not a commander to begin with. (Which is why I was thinking of casting Gift of Reason.)
Alneyan
September 7th, 2005, 01:38 PM
Units may have magic paths, but they aren't shown: for example, Wished commanders, Enslaved commanders, and Tartarians. I think there might be one kind of basic Tartarian that doesn't have any magic, but I'm not sure; all the others have magic, even if they start as basic units.
Vicious Love
September 7th, 2005, 04:18 PM
Every last Tartarian has magic levels, and all can utilize said levels so long as they are sane commanders, regardless of whether they were initially feebleminded and/or basic units.
Mind you, some might argue the Monstrum's two magic levels aren't worth the cost of Gift of Reason, but I'm strongly inclined to disagree. The head slot can also be much more useful than one might assume.
YellowCactus
September 7th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Simple Answer: Yes
-yc
ioticus
September 7th, 2005, 05:53 PM
Thanks all!
Nerfix
September 8th, 2005, 02:05 AM
Are the levels random?
Arralen
September 8th, 2005, 05:26 AM
Short: If they are random, they are random, otherwise not !
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Long:
The spell does not "make" a new commander from the unit, it simply sets the commander flag. If the unit has magical abilities depends solely on it's type ID, eg. #771 for a "Tartarian Cyclops", which has A2 E3 as soon as he is a commander. If the unit type says "random skills", the unit gets a random skill upon becoming a commander. (Or is it pre-rolled already?)
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