Invisible Swarm 4: started!

[Ygorl]

Turin?

[Turin]

sorry, forgot to upload my turn. It´s there now.

[jeffr]

My vine bow didn't seem to work (i.e. entangle) Turin's Golem as he destroyed my army. The Golem had Luck, Ethereal and Astral Shield cast. I didn't see the Entangle animation. Maybe the Astral Shield hid it, but I doubt it. The Golem seemed to attack every turn. Even with high strength, shouldn't it have been entangled for at least one turn per entanglement?

[Turin]

In my battle replay the centaur shot only once, after casting blessing. Then my golem got into melee range and the centaur started attacking with melee.

[jeffr]

Ah, perhaps that was it. Bummer.

[Whollaborg]

Server has been down for quite a long time already.

[jeffr]

server is now up

[Boron]

Could finally do my turn. Sorry for the delay.

[jeffr]

Just waiting for you, Turin http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Turin]

new turn. sorry again. btw I tried the djinn + wrathfulskies combo again vs ermors horde of 500 undead, but nephele decided to cast living clouds instead. Oh well.

But the good news is that the list of globals is really pretty to look at now. I like it!

[jeffr]

Uh, does anyone besides Boron and I think that Turin and his 5 globals are a problem http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ygorl]

Send me some astral pearls (or other gems that could be alchemized) and I'll try my darnedest to make them go away... I'll contribute what I've got, too, but it's not much; those angels are expensive!

[Jurri]

Go Turin go! I'll suck up Ygorl's astral balls with pleasure as long as I breathe! Nothing against you, jeffr, you see, but I hate the rest of the world. I fear that means I'm doing what I can to ease Turin's ascension as much as I can. It's not really fair towards you, I know, but I would place my bet (=all the gems I can spare, which isn't a lot) on you if I thought you had a better chance of offing the incorrigible bastards who've ganged up on me for something like 40? turns already with little success.

Not that I'm long for this world anymore, with my candles dwindling as fast as they are. But, I'm hoping my assailants have lost more than gained in the course of the war.

[jeffr]

I won't be around Saturday through Monday, but if Boron takes his turn, I'll get my turn in before I leave.

[Boron]

jeffr said:
I won't be around Saturday through Monday, but if Boron takes his turn, I'll get my turn in before I leave.


Your wish is my command. And happy Christmas in Pangenea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[jeffr]

And Merry Christmas to you, and everybody http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[jeffr]

server is down

[Ygorl]

I might have a change to take a turn tomorrow, but otherwise it's possible (though by no means certain) that I'll be out of commission until the 13th of January. Hopefully not, but if so, I apologize in advance.

And, Happy New Year!

[Turin]

heh finally got a look at the turn. Last turn a lone seeking arrow got my sword of augelmer wielding celestial master. This turn I fail in forging it. That´s quite a lot of gems lost for only 5 arrows.
But I got really lucky with my airqueens this turn, so I´m not complaining. And boron moved his army straight into the province with the undeadkilling site, so hopefully some of his demiliches have found some eternal rest http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .

[Ygorl]

I'm back. Sorry for the (long) delay. Now we just need Boron...

[Turin]

Just so you know boron stealthily played his turn. I continue to make stupid mistakes(casting dome of solid air and immediately crashing it with my own spell.

And I put too few airgems on my airqueen, I somehow missed that the cost of wrathful skies was raised from 2 to 4, so Boron still has his lich queen and demiliches alive. I managed to put etimmu to his eternal rest though.

And borons and Jeffrs invasion partys meant that my poor pretender had to fight jeffrs party alone and he was no match for the moloch. Well at least the cross makes him more famous.

Marignon broke my monopoly on the global buisness. I´m not sure is intentionally overriding a global a declaration of war? Well I don´t need the firegems anyway.

I killed quite a few of pangeaes wolves though, but with the soulstone that doesn´t really matter.

[PashaDawg]

Is Jurri going to lose a game? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Give me the dirt!!

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[Ygorl]

I attacked him, and then Whollaborg attacked him, and then Boron threw a few hundred undead at him just for fun. It's tough to fight off three people, especially when you're Black Forest Ulm.

[PashaDawg]

Well, I have a feeling that his BF Ulm is much, much more effective than mine in the S.O.L., where I am Boron's little pet.

[Jurri]

Hey! I'm not dead yet, you buggers! ...but, I did kind of lose heart when I couldn't even bring that lousy Ygorl down (hey, are we gonna finish that 1x1 now that you're back? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/beerglass.gif). Still, I've been fighting for dear life for two thirds of the game or so, mainly because my assailants suck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Why don't you put me out of my misery already, you cruel, cruel people?

I don't even have scouts that could watch the proceedings when Turin crushes you all, so there's not even that joy left for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Injured.gif

[Ygorl]

Yeah, I'll get that game running again one day soon. I'm pretty busy lately though (three weeks absence seems to bring that, always), and it might be a bit before things settle down to the point where I can increase my Dominions load beyond the games that will host without me if I don't play... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Boron]

Well i personally wouldn't mind ending this game and declaring Turin winner. I don't think that we can stop him but with CB lategame lasts forever because CB fixed many imbalances. But the more balanced dominions is the longer the lategame lasts.

I love CB but it's suited best for Blitzes. Probably i won't play longterm games anymore only special scenario games like Artifacts game and blitzes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

So subjectively i vote for declaring Turin winner http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[archaeolept]

its not that it is better suited for blitzes, but that people refuse to set reasonable victory conditions http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[jeffr]

Well, we still haven't ganged up on him yet. So far, it's been only Boron and myself, although I think that the others may join in soon. It's probable that Turin can take us all, but shouldn't we see?

In order to combat the drag, maybe we should put this game back on a hosting schedule (48 hour?) and only turn off the hosting schedule if someone requests it? That would speed up the game alot. The first 30 turns or so were very fast paced and interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

What does everyone think?

[Ygorl]

Sounds good to me. I'm not at all convinced that Turin has the game wrapped up, anyway. Though, sometimes I'm rather blindly optimistic...

[Turin]

Yeah I´m not quite sure about that either. Boron still has his hordes of undead, which are annoying(even though I have ~15 demiliches) and Jeffr seems to always get back into the game with his f9/white centaurs. At least it´s always very costly to crush his armies.

And marignon must have a really huge blood income, not to mention that df marignon is probably the most powerful lategame nation, due to the goetic masters.

I have no idea what ygorl has, but he can´t have that many provinces.

I´m certainly number one in terms of power, with my gem income of ~150/turn, and I have the majority of the elemental royalty + the treelords. As for artifacts, I´m missing some of the really powerful ones, like the soulstone, the sword of augelmer and magebane, but I own pretty much the rest of the important ones.

So I guess I´m about as strong as Jeffr, boron and whollaborg combined, even though I don´t know what Whollaborg has http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif .

[archaeolept]

ooh i do love goetic masters. they're probably my favorite recruitable blood mage in the game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

fire, 2 blood, random, sacred, fairly cheap - what's not to love?

[archaeolept]

ooh i do love goetic masters. they're probably my favorite recruitable blood mage in the game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

fire, 2 blood, random, sacred, fairly cheap - what's not to love?

they make Bloody Mary the ne plus ultra of archdevil rushing.

[Jurri]

No argument there about the goetic masters! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/heart.gifThe demon jester is also a worthwhile troop.

I wonder how Whollaborg's doing, though, not recalling seeing him posting for a while. Anyway, he's got a very formidable force, so there should still be a chance to stop Turin if you guys give it your all, meager though it may be. I hope your deaths will be slow and gruesome, you gangsters! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif

[PashaDawg]

/threads/images/Graemlins/icon10.gif This is a trick by Jurri. All according to his plan! /threads/images/Graemlins/icon10.gif

[Boron]

PashaDawg said:
/threads/images/Graemlins/icon10.gif This is a trick by Jurri. All according to his plan! /threads/images/Graemlins/icon10.gif


Nah Jurri is just a true sadisthttp://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif.

Turin you forgot the psychological part. Though i am always a huge hazadeur when i get the impression it is hopeless i surrender in mind. And this has influence on my playstyle too.
So i play rather like Wilhelm II than like Napoleon if i would compare me to famous historic warlords.
Wilhelm II was very daring too but when he realized it is in vain he surrendered.
Finally i know that you are a very skilled player.
So i am subjectively very convinced now that unless you would disband all your forces or let your cat play you can't lose anymore http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

So if we continue i will search a sub. Because my allies don't deserve a demotivated ally like me but a fully motivated one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. I'll ask QM and Half if they want to sub maybe.
Sorry guys. It has taken a while but i found finally out that the only thing i enjoy about lategame is hoarding but that's impossible with ermor + CB. So i rather continue playing blitzes till Dom3 is released and won't participate any "normal" servergames anymore.
You may call me a hedonist http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[jeffr]

Well, my problem is keeping interest in the game because turnaround time seems to now be 5-7 days. It is of course fine when people have to go away for a period of time, but when people are here it still takes a long time to host a turn. In the beginning of this game we were humming, but now we are very, very slow.

Does anyone else agree or am I off base here?

If we are to go down, let's go down in a last blazing charge of glory! Let's not die of ennui in our camp http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ygorl]

I would be very happy to see things moving quickly again - to see Turin's ascent or crashing defeat happen quickly, whichever it may be.

[Turin]

yeah quick turns would be nicer, though I must say that I´m often the one taking the longest time.
Dom2 Endgame simply doesn´t have the same appeal as the early game has. So I find myself continually delaying the turn until I feel like doing the micromanagement chores again.

I´d appreciate going back to 48 Quickhost.

[jeffr]

So, at least 3 of us (me, Ygorl, Turin) are for going back to 48hr Quickhost. I think that Boron is trying to find a sub.

Jurri, Whollaborg, is 48hr QuickHost Ok with you?

If yes, then I guess we have to get in touch with Chris.

[Jurri]

Cool with me, naturally. I'm a goner in a turn or two anyway.

[Boron]

Server is down. I found no sub but it is not surprising.
So i will play the game till the end and try to be motivated.

I welcome a change back to 48h. With only a turn every 10 days i often almost forgot about the game. As jeffr said when a game crawls it is no fun.
Because the aim is not to do perfect moves but have fun.
If i need 3 months for 10 turns this is not fun imho.

A game should never be slower than 48h quickhost as maximum i think and VP should be set reasonable.
Because that's another problem. I am dead since 5-10 turns at least but the dying process in dominions is a very very slow one.

[shovah]

if you really need a sub i could fill in for a while (im used to dying in mp, it dosnt bother me)

[jeffr]

Whollaborg, is 48hr Quickhost Ok with you? Let me know, and I'll PM Chris to set it up. That's assuming Chris still checks this forum or his PM here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I know I've forgotten much of what this game is about, so I'm no longer trying to do anything close to perfect moves. I'm just basically pointing my guys in Turin's general direction.

[Jurri]

Waiting on Boron and Turin, as we have for a while...

I'd suggest sending Whollaborg a message ingame to check the forum: he's done his turn yet hasn't commented the schedule, which would indicate that he might not be following this.

[jeffr]

Yeah, good idea.

[CUnknown]

Okay, changing to 48-h quickhost.

[jeffr]

Great, thanks.

[Boron]

Now the server works for me again too. I will do my turn today evening, sorry for beeing the last again, now my study stress is already starting to fade away though so hopefully you don't have to wait for me as long in the future and i even cured my motivation crisis http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ygorl]

Ten hours left, and three people still need to take turns. Incidentally, they're all at war. The little eastern game we've got going on isn't as demanding, I guess.

[jeffr]

Turin is about to assault a VP castle of mine, which he might take, depending upon how the battle goes. He might be getting close to a VP win.

Do you have to hold all of your VP provinces for a turn, or do you win immediately?

[Ygorl]

I'm not sure. I hope you win!

[Turin]

umm it will be only my sixth victory point. Since 13 are needed, this game will certainly take a while longer.

Waiting only on boron btw with 3 turns to host.

[jeffr]

Well, Turin just destroyed my last army with no loss to himself. So, for me, that's about it. Stream of Lifed my Moloch, I think. First time for everything http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Of course the Moloch probably would have decayed anyway with all the Banefire being tossed around (is that how Banefire works?).

I'm willing to concede to Turin. If everybody wants to keep playing, I'll do my best to delay him. But I really have nothing that can do the job anymore.

It's been a fun game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Well played, everybody.

[Turin]

I have a screenshot for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

http://images3.pictiger.com/images/d9/933fd5a264b81ac8a0b3aa0f6e2ed0d9.jpg (http://www.pictiger.com/)


Yes that heroic ability is heroic quickness!

[Ygorl]

Cursed *and* horror marked, with an MR of only 20?
He won't last two turns.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[jeffr]

Like to rub it in, eh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/firedevil.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ygorl, do you still want to continue? Do you have something up your sleave?

[Ygorl]

Realistically, probably not. I do, however, have the most expensive sword in the game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
That of course isn't remotely sufficient to turn the tide of anything, but I hate to give up before [insert your cliche here]. If everyone else is bored, of course we should call it a game; I'm still enjoying it though. And, Jurri's not yet dead!

[Boron]

I vote for stopping but am fine with whatever the majority decides.
Unfortunately i staled last turn but i will do my new turn today evening. Forgot last turn that we changed to 48h Quickhost http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

I have nothing to stop Turin neither, i think it depends on Whollaborg. Do you think you have a Chance vs. Turin?

[Turin]

I probably won´t be able to do this turn in time, I will be able to do it on monday evening. So a delay would be welcome.

[Jurri]

I don't think it can be expected that CU is consistently observing the forum, so don't be surprised if there won't be one. (Thanks again, Chris: You're a great host!)

Looks like Whollaborg is not commenting, though. Did anyone send him that ingame message?

And, so far looks like only Ygorl is in favor of continuing (I don't count my own preference, since it's 3 minutes to do my turn as opposed to who knows how long for you guys)... Maybe you guys oughta finish me off for appearances sake http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif and then call it quits?

[Boron]

How did the WQ die ? Was that an ultra lucky OE roll or what?

[Turin]

I guess one of the wailing ladies attacks got through. That is the second WQ I lost to freespawns. Oh well I have enough royalty left http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif. I got the turn in though.

[shovah]

since when are wailing ladies freespawns? iirc they had to be summoned (with a rather high price but im not sure)

[Tom_Scudder]

Wailing Ladies freespawn in SG Ermor. Pretty rare, though, maybe 1 per 10 ghosts or so in high dominion temple districts.

[shovah]

dont think ive ver noticed them (is it castle only? i always seem to castle more with AE)

[jeffr]

new turn

[Whollaborg]

Sorry for not replying in few turns. I am ready to continue the game just a while longer if you guys are still able to continue?

Whollaborga

[Turin]

new turn.

[Jurri]

Hurmph, so I died, finally. Nicely played, Whollaborg, Ygorl, Boron /threads/images/Graemlins/Balloons.gif

[Whollaborg]

Dont worry, Jurri!

Thanks for a huge load of teaching!

You just got the Grand Prize from the NoDiplomacy game!
(Damn me because i dind't attack you there a couple of turns ago;)

[Turin]

A new turn. And it brings treachery. Marignon attacked and violated our three turn NaP. Who could have anticipated this.

Therefore I declare war on the entire world. Well I really have no reason to attack arco, but the entire world sounds cooler.

Since I own almost half the world at the moment, I guess this will be a fair fight vs the evil nations of demon worshippers, undead and treehuggers. Not to mention the sinister astral mages of Arcoscephaele.

So fear my legions of demons, vine ogres and demiliches you treacherous bastards!

[Ygorl]

We are very sinister indeed, both of us!
Prepare to perish.

[jeffr]

I think this game was decided by Turin's good play and the fact that Jurri survived, and fed Turin from what I understand, for the whole game againt 3 nations. How is that possible? I've never even been able to survive a 2 on 1 for very long.

[Ygorl]

Jurri's very good.
Boron wasn't particularly dedicated (though he did besiege Jurri's capital for quite a while).
That's mainly it... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I guess you and Boron are pretty much done for? Whollaborg and I aren't completely defenseless, though Turin may still walk all over us.

[jeffr]

Yeah, I'm done. Turin just took my capital. I don't know about Boron, though.

I'll have to remember the Stream of Life spell. My Moloch had a 25MR and went down to the 2nd or 3rd spell. He was lucky, too. That was the 2nd time he died that way.

Good luck against Turin http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ygorl]

Huh... It's supposed to be an MR negates spell... I wonder if it (like Paralyze?) has a secret penetration bonus?

[Turin]

hmm it is an aoe 1 spell. So maybe something with less MR was targeted and the moloch was caught in the radius. Still the spell is too powerful, even with MR negates. It has range 35 and nature certainly doesn´t need a powerful anti SC spell.

[Boron]

jeffr said:
Yeah, I'm done. Turin just took my capital. I don't know about Boron, though.

I'll have to remember the Stream of Life spell. My Moloch had a 25MR and went down to the 2nd or 3rd spell. He was lucky, too. That was the 2nd time he died that way.

Good luck against Turin http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



I am done too. It's frustrating to march vs. someone who has demilichs too when you are ermor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif. Wither bones here, wither bones there, wither bones everywhere http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif.

Good Luck vs. Turin Ygorl and Whollaborg http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Turin]

blah I wanted to upload my turn, and now it says 48 hours until next hosting. so a stale for me. Sucks when you have spent more than an hour doing the stupid turn.

[Turin]

heh I just noticed that all of you were online when I finished my turn for real this time. Shall we continue the game at blitz pace? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Jurri]

I think this game was decided by Turin's good play and the fact that Jurri survived, and fed Turin from what I understand, for the whole game againt 3 nations. How is that possible? I've never even been able to survive a 2 on 1 for very long.

I'm sure my gems amounted to little; there was a bigger batch of air and earth gems in the hundreds but other than that only a small trickle. (If I remember correctly.) I even managed to destroy a... soul contract, was it? by accident by flooding Turin's lab with sanguine dousing rods http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif So, I might have been something of a hindrance.

Boron only had one small army facing me, even though I liked to exaggerate his involvement. Ygorl was in a very weak situation and quickly neutralized for a while. That left me in a situation where I couldn't stop Whollaborg's impressive assault while Ygorl slowly took his lands back: in the end I survived so long only because they both took the assault so methodically, without rushing anything. Or so it seemed to me.

So, thus dissected, it really is nothing extraordinary to just linger on.

[silhouette]

I even managed to destroy a... soul contract, was it? by accident by flooding Turin's lab with sanguine dousing rods http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif So, I might have been something of a hindrance.


Hold on, is this another cheezy MP tactic I haven't seen before? If you send items to another player, do they go into the lab before the items the player forges for the turn, or is it random? This could be an easy Denial Of Forge attack, by having an alliance each just make and send a dozen cheapo items to someone with the FoA global. Please tell me no.

Sill

[shovah]

it works but the amount you spend on it dosnt justify your result. what works better is a bunch of ulmish smiths with dwarven hammers+FoA up mass sending worthless items to someone trying to spam contracts/clams ect

[Ygorl]

A new turn is up. I am now accepting (soliciting? begging for?) contributions to the "Dispel Turin's Globals" fund.

[Turin]

I won´t contribute! But It would be interesting to know how many extra gems you put into the first dispel.

[Ygorl]

I put enough. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
I'll tell you if you tell me how many extra gems you put into the second casting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Turin]

new turn.
Marignon has quite a lot of nasty unique demons. So it´s only fair that I pepper him with hordes from hell. He also left one victorypoint uncastled bringing me up to 10.

[Ygorl]

Another new turn.
Turin, I thought you were peppering Whollaborg? What's with the wayward hordes?

[Turin]

Heh I have enough good stuff for everyone.

Good news for the good guys: Belial the lord of corruption lies slain in front of my gates. But I have made a sighting of Marignon´s prophet who looks pretty impressive:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/815/belphegor0oa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Jurri]

That's rather unorthodox equipment he's got on, I have to say! Black steel helmet... What does he think he is, a commander of Ulm? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Whollaborg]

Aye!

Commander of Ulm he is http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif ...Belial was a crazy move from me as he stated that he wanted to go sightseeing for a while. But i guess you cannot win every time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ygorl]

A new turn is up. And, holy crap, that was a serious battle there. Turin might actually win. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Still not quite ready to give up, though...

[jeffr]

new turn

[Turin]

new turn. Shockingly boron attacked me instead of dieing peacefully. Ah well makes it at least a bit more interesting.

We lament the passing of GER and his happy nature lovers. But we still have one white centaur and one Pan, which we will preserve as trophies for all eternity http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .

[jeffr]

Oh, the humiliation. But there will be vengeance! It might take until Dom3, but vengeance there will be http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Good game everyone http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Turin]

new turn. That poor succubus http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif . Oh and 3 flames from the skies rained down on my big army.

I will be gone for 10 days starting friday. So I would greatly appreciate it if the quickhosttimer gets taken off for that period.

I think I have the game won anyway, but I´d hate to miss next turn´s battles.

[Turin]

so what happened? Is the server stopped? Did my armies suffer a crushing defeat? Did I capture those two needed VPs?

[Ygorl]

The server is up, but not on quickhost. We've all taken our turns, though...

[Whollaborg]

Succubus saw one rather big mummy...

Wonder why i got a message from a host saying that "Tien Ch'i had an unexplainable rise of wealth this turn. This is probably caused by cheating."
Is this a bug? Did anyone of you get the same message?

Tha hos has not run yet..

[Turin]

heh I don´t even know if I lost more gems in that fight. The mummy summoned some ~40 elementals of various kinds.

The cheating message came, because I got nervous and cheated me some 10000 gems. Actually I guess it´s because I made the turn on a different comp and I couldn´t find a cbc5.0 version, so I just used cbc5.2 and renamed it. Since the gem income for treelords is different in both versions, I guess that triggered the cheat detection.

Thanks for keeping me updated.

[CUnknown]

Sorry about the non-quickhost thing.

I put it on quickhost, but it crashed. Said the flying unit had an invalid move location or something?? I didn't understand it. Um.. is the game over yet? What should I do?

[archaeolept]

hah turin sent a 5.0 flying unit to a place further than the unit could fly in 5.2... would be my guess ;p

[Turin]

hmm, that´s unlikely since I did the last turn on my usual comp with normal cbc 5.0. CUnknown do you still have the files from the previous turn? If so we should reupload and not make any fancy map movements. Sounds like a mapissue to me, although I have never run into that bug. Or maybe I screwed up with flying carpets or the flying ship.

[CUnknown]

I set up the host again, it is still on the last turn. So, yeah, I guess re-upload with different flying commands?

[Turin]

ok all turns are in again. I removed all flying movement that I could find and which wasn´t to an adjacent province. Just waiting for CUnknown to hit the host button http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .

[Turin]

did the server crash again? Maybe we should try out what happens if everyone just stales the turn.

[CUnknown]

Yes, it crashed again. It said something funky this time, too. Okay, yeah, maybe everyone should just stale?

[Boron]

What happened to the game? Did Turin win or did it just crash again?

[CUnknown]

Oh, yeah, it crashed again. I don't know what else to do..

I don't understand why it crashed, and to be honest I..um...don't care that much anymore, since I am not playing. If someone can figure it out, and tell me what to do, I will keep hosting. Or, I can send the files to someone else? Anyone volunteer?

[Ygorl]

Well, it was pretty much over, anyway. There would have been a few moderately spectacular battles, but I'm not so excited about getting to see them that it's worth a lot of effort on my (or anyone else's, certainly) part to figure it out.

Thanks a lot for hosting!

[jeffr]

So, is it over? Did Turin win or did you guys manage to gang up on him and somehow take him out?

[Turin]

Well I had 11 of the 13 needed victory points already and was storming arco´s and ulm´s capitol that turn, although I´m not sure I would have won those battles. I also was storming one of marignons´s castles, which would have resulted in a giant battle, with me casting almost every possible buff on my 100s of ogres and devils and a couple air queens helping out as SC´s.

Ermor was down to 5 temples and I had positive dominion in his capital, so he was out of the game too.

I had won some decisive battles vs marignon before, with only very few losses. My economy was absolutely crazy for such a small map, I think I had ~250gems/turn , 3k gold/turn ~20 devils/turn from soul contracts and ~120 blood/turn. Important artifacts were all mine again, except for the sword of augelmer and magebane.

I also had 5 well reinforced globals up, well of misery with ~200 additional gems, the rest with ~100 additional.

I owned all the elemental royalty( except for antrax and the fallen earth king), two heliophagi, a couple of thuggish golems and quite a few gifted tartarians.

Perhaps CUnknown could post the gamefiles on his host machine here zipped and we can try to get it working on our own. I mainly want to know which site caused undead/demons to die in port hargal, because I had already run a lvl 4+ search of all paths except for blood(2) and holy (3) .

Oh and the battle in arandor with my 600+ troops vs marignon´s demon army should be nice to watch.

[Ygorl]

One of the (many) lessons that I've taken away from this game: Antrax is very very cool. He can sport something like 26 hp worth of fire/banefire shields, as well as a soul vortex. Even rather buff troops tend to die rather quickly, as a result. He's not the world's most survivable chassis, but he's not bad either, and while he's alive he's pretty spectacular.

But, yeah, Turin was in good shape. Well played, Turin!