Metzel and Pain - changed to 48 h Quickhost

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

https://www.mosehansen.dk/cgi-bin/dom2.pl?page=BrowseGamePage&game=Metzel_and_Pain_C radle

!!!
Map: Cradle i mean

Research: hard
Sites: 40%
HOF: 15
Events: common
Victory conditions: 11 VP of 21
Indies: 6
Server: dom2.mosehansen.dk
Port: 2214


It will start on the next wednesday.(5. October)

24h qucikhost, later 48 or maybe 72.

Mods: -

Houserules:


Pangae: Griffin
Atlantis: Hackerpschor
Emor: Kayday
Jotunheim: Robmum
Vanheim :Tyrant
Man: Bluebird
R'lyeh: Catquiet
Marignon: Windwalker

[Bluebird]

Sign me up as Man.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Your in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Bluebird]

Can you give me the URL for the Map? From dominions-2.org, I can only download Faerun_small.map and Faerun_large.map ... which one is Faerun.map ?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

http://www.nightmare-industry.de/faerun.rar


I do not know whcih version is used by mosehansen, just unrar this files in the mapsfolder and it works fine.

[Bluebird]

Sure ? This files contains cradle.map, not Faerun.map ...

[Catquiet]

I'll give R'lyeh a try.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Juhu, nice to have you onboard!

[Jurri]

If memory serves, the Mosehansen Faerun is the oldest version. Thus, you'll need a faerun.tga for the map graphics; you can rename the superior faerun_large.tga and it works fine, I seem to recall. (Although a few neighbor connections mightn't be right, but that's what the map filter is for...)

As for the map file, you'll only need a simulacrum; the map file on the client isn't used, I think, so if it asks for one just rename some file to faerun.map and it should work. If you want to look and see what provinces have what preplaced things, can't help there. Most are probably the same as in the newer version, but there are a lot of preplaced forts which really make the map unfun, in my opinion. Edi probably has the older versions archived (seeing how he's apparently got a thing for keeping things in good order, which is great! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif), so if you really need 'em, PM him!

[Alneyan]

The client won't check for any .map file whatsoever, so just put the .tga file in and it will be fine. The creator of the game does need the .map file, of course.

[Jurri]

I stand corrected! (Was thinking of mods or something... Or do you need the right file for those?)

Anyway, if you're shooting for ten players, won't it unbalance things if you've got all of Ulm, Ermor and Pan in? I mean, they all start practically next to each other. (And Man is rather close to Ermor, too.) So it's possible that either Marignon or Jotunheim or any of the unclaimed Eastern continent nations start without any close neighbors at all. Dunno how such unbalancedness in the indy distribution could be corrected, except by deciding the nations that won't be in beforehand, though, and that obviously isn't feasible...

Well, good luck to all in any case!

[Bluebird]

I really would like to test the Faerun.map file. Isn't there are anybody out there who has it and who is willing to attach it to his/her/its post? Otherwise I will page Edi to see if I can get it from him.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

You can download it from the adress above, it is called in menue " a map with 221 provinces"(for some reason)

[Bluebird]

*sigh* when I read the map file, I can see the following:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
#dom2title A map with 221 provinces.
#imagefile cradle.tga
#domversion 175
#description "CRADLE OF DOMINION
...
</pre><hr />

and cradle.tga look helluva lot different from the faerun maps in faerun_small and faerun_large ...

See http://www.fams.de/maps.png

Sorry - but I am a bit confused. Which map are we playing now.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

It is the right one, it is *really* a cool map!

[Bluebird]

Ok - I surrender trying to understand _which_ is the right map. I will just upload my pretender god and that is it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif That the best you can do :-p

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Soooo,

We should sent in all our final versions of the pretender, i think we will start soon!

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Oki, i have restarted the server, Hackerpschor now is able to connect.

Any last words?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Sorry for all thatn confusion, the Port is know 2213 and Hackerpschor will play Atlantis.

So as soon as you have uploaded your pretenders i will start the game.

AND do NOT hit Start game as Robmum did twice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Bluebird]

Uploaded my pretender to 2214 ... it is a very unusual pretender for Man, but I hope that it will be fun to play http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Catquiet]

R'lyeh is uploaded

[Tyrant]

I realize it's the 11th hour, but may i join as Pythium?

[Bluebird]

Though I should not speak for Griffin: sure, go ahead and upload you pretender. The map is rather large and we had been aiming for 10 people anyway.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Yes , you can i would have started now, but that few hours i think wie can wait!

[Tyrant]

I have uploaded.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Mhm, i have problems with the map, he says that he do not find the faerun.map

Have anyone an idea what is the right file?

O

[Alneyan]

Faerun.map, and not .tga? And when does the game say that?

Still, I guess it simply means you do not have the appropriate Faerun.map in your maps directory. Either the .map and the .tga do not match (in which case, you should rename something, if you have a Faerun_small.tga and a Faerun.map, or the other way around), or you didn't download any .map file to go with Faerun.

This will be a bit more annoying, of course, as you may need to create your own .map file. I have four different .map files for the small Faerun, and Mosehansen Faerun may use another one, and... Anyway, what sort of .map did you want? No special provinces? The mundane Faerun, with all its special provinces? Something else altogether?

The .map files I have myself for Faerun are those ones: http://www.dominions-2.org/downloads/Faerun_small_mapfiles.rar

Note that those files call for a Faerun_small.tga file, and not Faerun.tga, so some renaming may be needed.

[Jurri]

I think you should restart the thing!

Based on your description, you're assuming you're playing on a map called Cradle of Dominion (a map with 221 provinces), yet the server is primed for a game on a map called Faerun (a map with over 400 provinces and preset starting sites).

If you intend to play on Faerun: Mose still uses the first version of the Faerun map, as I tried to explain earlier; you'd be better off using the Faerun_large.tga, renamed into Faerun.tga than the small one, since the small one has different borders I think. (You know, I never looked at the smaller one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)

Hey, would this validate what I was saying earlier about that simulacrum .map-file? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Oki,

Thank you for your help, it was really CREADLE i meant!

And to all the others thank yoiu for your patience, please

UPLOAD your pretnders again.

All other are still welcome to join if they leave a note here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Bluebird]

Hehe - it is not like I had not tried to get this right at the beginning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif But I do not care, I like Cradle

Pretender uploaded and waiting for the start of the game.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Coppedatfatz,

Game has started and this timei have a good feeeling http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

And also welcome Windwalker as marigion onboard!

[Bluebird]

Can you update the initial post with a player overview, please?

[Tyrant]

As you may have noticed, i am playing Vanheim instead of Pythium. (i like Van, but they have a crappy start position on Faerun)

What is indy strength?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Pangae: Griffin
Atlantis: Hackerpschor
Emor: Kayday
Jotunheim: Robmum
Vanheim :Tyrant
Man: Bluebird
R'lyeh: Catquiet
Marignon: Windwalker

The indies are 6.

*chofs*

[Bluebird]

Wonderful. What a start. Feebled mind for my pretender in the second round. Lost my army to the indies twice.

*sigh*

Well - we will see if I can catch up.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Jotunheim has also lost his pretender in round 6 i think. I have also allready lost so many battles here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Thats hard.

[Windwalker]

Hall of Fame is full of http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gifdeathhttp://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif! And all this probably solely against independents http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif!
Anyway I think, that Ermor haven't played for like last 3 turns. Not that he had to in current state (army is growing anyway), but if he is out, shouldn't we get replacement?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

yes, i have alrready eMailed him, i think i will find a replacement soon.

[Bluebird]

Looks like it is good that I have an immortal pretender.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Ok, got him, he took his turn.

[Bluebird]

*sigh* And why didn't he just take two turns in a row?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Oki, i have found a sub for emor, so i do not hope that he will stale so soon again.

BTW stale, what about you, Catquiet, are you still onboard?

[Bluebird]

Looks like we have lost him.

[Catquiet]

Hello from sunny Florida. Sorry about the stale turns, I didn't expect the hurricane to hit so hard. I'm currently running on generator power and I'm not sure if I will be able to do a turn every 24 hours, can we slow the game down for a while?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Okidoki, what time sccedule would bei fine to you? I think i will turn it to 96 h now(for the beginning)

[Bluebird]

Oha - thats the reason. You think a tiny hurricane is a valid excuse for stale turns? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Hope you survived without major damages. /threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_USA.gif

[Catquiet]

I lost several trees and one of my rain gutters, other than that the house is fine. 96 hours sounds good, hopefully I'll be able to play once a day. It depends on whether or not I can find gasoline for the generator.

[Catquiet]

I had generator power yesterday, but the phonelines went dead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Bluebird]

What is Tyrant's Problem now? Vanheim is lagging behind ... (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif)

Well - it is a slow but interesting game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Perhaps I am just excited.

[Catquiet]

Power is back, hopefully for good. The boil water order has been lifted. We can go back to 24 hour host now.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Ok, i will turn it back to 48 h(better after turn 25).

[Bluebird]

I am away over the weekend (at Saturday noon) and will only be able to check my computer at Monday evening. Can you adjust the time up again ?

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Okidoki!

[Catquiet]

Let's switch back to 48 hour host again.

[GriffinOfBuerrig]

Done.

[Bluebird]

I fear Jotunheim has surrendered. Are you still with us, Robmum ? I am just about to come to your rescue, driving by forces through hords of undead (now that I know Holy Pyre). Any help against the undead is welcome,

[Bluebird]

Again, I will not be available over the weekend, starting this Thursday. Sorry for that delay, but my girlfriend just finished her diploma and we are celebrating for a couple of days in London.

[Windwalker]

Well, lets face it - I have greater army, than Ermor during its peak, and only small fraction of this is soulless/militia/etc. Heck, I have more troops, than the rest combined. Trust me, there will be no supply problems. With my gems income, there can't be even money problem, and I can use all kinds of it. With Ermor still active nobody can left "Death Front", so I don't think anyone can grab enough VP by surprise. Seriously I see no point in continuing this game. What do You all say?

[Tyrant]

If y'all want to surrender I will accept http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif, but seems to me that we are just now entering the midgame. It's true that only you could even possibly pull off a surprise strike, so it's likely to be a long game, but so what? (very sneaky bypassing the VP provences, btw)

Honestly, i have very little idea what you and Man have going, but amy size it not nessicarily very relevent. Computer controlled Ermor does require some effort to destroy, but their defeat is inevitable and I do not think that they will be around much longer (despite R'yleh getting in my way).

The way i see it, now's the time for you to take your shot. You are mighty, but can you do it? Not sure. Don't know about Man, but R'yleh is always dangerous and i can defend myself.

If you do not want to play anymore I suppose we would have to find a replacement or call it, but I'd like to play it out.

What do Cat and Bird think?

[Catquiet]

"That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die." - H.P. Lovecraft

I'm staying to the bitter end. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Windwalker]

What the heck happened in Graymund (184)? Those Golems exploded because of Tangle Vines?

[Catquiet]

I think they hit the limit to how long a battle can run. Golems can't retreat so they just disintegrate like mindless undead without leadership.

[Windwalker]

In that case they should die in the same turn, and for sure Druid wasn't quickened. So first one, then another, in another turn, and this second didn't move. Looks like they thought, that they can't hurt Druid. Very strange.

[Catquiet]

Mindless units don't all dissolve at once when they lose leadership. Make a game as R'lyeh, recruit a bunch of mindless Lobo Guards, put the leader in back and have him retreat. Watch what happens to the guards.

[Windwalker]

Well, I was expecting more hostile magic on map during war. Not only Cyclops, and Cyclops.
The best number was like 3. For 2 players? In the end Ermor appeared to be my best ally http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

And I have no idea why this second Golem fell from simple Imps.
Thanks Everyone for Game! I think You all should take better care of independent provinces.