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Wish
October 10th, 2005, 09:32 PM
how does conscriptiopn work, I drummed up a tien chi pretender with high order in an attempt to see just how well it raises PD on its own. but the numbers, they aint moving.

does the dominion have to be at a certain strength or what?
quantum_mechani
October 10th, 2005, 09:55 PM
Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
how does conscriptiopn work, I drummed up a tien chi pretender with high order in an attempt to see just how well it raises PD on its own. but the numbers, they aint moving.

does the dominion have to be at a certain strength or what?

It needs a lot of time, and has diminishing returns the higher the PD already is. Overall, an extremely weak ability, you would be hard pressed to find a situation where it is noticeable apart from the amusing PD underwater bug.
Alneyan
October 11th, 2005, 03:21 AM
Well, it might just allow you to get from PD 0 to PD 1, thereby saving you *one* gold per province, but even that doesn't seem to be working.

In addition, two of the themes for T'ien Ch'i do not allow for Order. Isn't that very fun?
PDF
October 11th, 2005, 08:35 AM
Yeah, poor Tien Chi...
If the real Chinese were as feeble as TC is they would just rule Taiwan by now ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Zooko
October 11th, 2005, 09:29 AM
Tien Chi is an excellent nation! Anyone who says bad things about Tien Chi is CHALLENGED to a DUEL.
quantum_mechani
October 11th, 2005, 11:12 AM
Zooko said:
Tien Chi is an excellent nation! Anyone who says bad things about Tien Chi is CHALLENGED to a DUEL.

Yay, maybe vs. SG Ermor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
PDF
October 11th, 2005, 11:37 AM
quantum_mechani said:

Zooko said:
Tien Chi is an excellent nation! Anyone who says bad things about Tien Chi is CHALLENGED to a DUEL.

Yay, maybe vs. SG Ermor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif



Or Caelum .. RoR theme !! /threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif
Ironhawk
October 11th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Hahhahh
magnate
October 11th, 2005, 06:43 PM
If Zooko wasn't kidding then I want you both to save the turn files - I have to see this ....

CC
Zooko
October 12th, 2005, 12:09 PM
That does it! I CHALLENGE you to a DUEL!

Maybe this coming weekend...

I can arrange to put the .trn files on a web server so magnate can look at them. My opponent and I will agree on our honor not to peek at the other guy's .trn files. How does that sound?
Zooko
October 12th, 2005, 12:20 PM
If Ermor SG and Caelum RotR are considered to be "weak" themes for their respective nations, then I hereby agree as a matter of honor to take the Tien Chi "Barbarian Kings" theme.
Endoperez
October 12th, 2005, 12:42 PM
Well, there was recently a thread about how duel between Soul Gate and the choice of nation against it. In the end, it was said that only Soul Gate Ermor can have immortal thugs so early, and they also have lots of free, ethereal chaff that wear down most of what their enemies can send at them in the early game. Soul Gate is definitely not a weak theme, it is at the least tied with Ashen Empire.
magnate
October 12th, 2005, 12:43 PM
Er, I think the recent Ermor thread concluded that SG is perhaps Ermor's strongest theme, especially for 1v1. No idea about RotR, though it would be hard to be better than base Caelum.

Anyway, this is dead exciting. Don't worry about posting trns during the game - why not just keep your own turns archived on your PC (tienchi01.trn etc) and then zip them all up and post the zip file in this thread when the game's over. Then we can download both zip files and see how it went.

There's just the small fact that neither PDF nor QM have taken up the challenge yet ...

Good luck,

CC
Endoperez
October 12th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Heh, quite a simultanous post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I'm not sure, but the host might be able to use --postexec to zip each new turn's .trn and fthrlnd files into a new zip. If --preexec exists, it would work even better, and could also copy the .2h files.
Ironhawk
October 12th, 2005, 12:51 PM
Geez Barbarian Kingdoms - dont shoot yourself in the foot before the match even starts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif At least take S&A?

Regardless, I'll host the duel for you two if QM or someone else actually accepts.
PDF
October 12th, 2005, 01:07 PM
magnate said:
Er, I think the recent Ermor thread concluded that SG is perhaps Ermor's strongest theme, especially for 1v1. No idea about RotR, though it would be hard to be better than base Caelum.

Anyway, this is dead exciting. Don't worry about posting trns during the game - why not just keep your own turns archived on your PC (tienchi01.trn etc) and then zip them all up and post the zip file in this thread when the game's over. Then we can download both zip files and see how it went.

There's just the small fact that neither PDF nor QM have taken up the challenge yet ...

Good luck,

CC



Yeah, I'm the offender, but I won't be able to manage *yet another* game. I've 6 to play and act as sub in 4 more !!
And I'm a French pacifist http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
Will look at the replay yet : to me Ermor SG ain't that bad, and TC will be hard-pressed to stop them on a small "duel" map.
OTOH RoR is widely renowned for its weakness but in fact I've never played it !
Graeme Dice
October 12th, 2005, 01:12 PM
I'd be happy to play a 1v1 against SG Ermor. I'd just need a couple of days to work my early game back up to snuff first.
Ironhawk
October 12th, 2005, 04:45 PM
The challenge was to play Anything v TienChi (played by Zooko). QM implied he would use Ermor SG and PDF that he would use RotR.

And on a side note, I just looked at RotR and its really not as bad as I thought it was. Of course its not nearly as powerful as base caelum with its super cheap mages... but it just seems more normal, rather than weak, to me. I guess the lack of any random hurts.