My First Map: Siltrock

[Wish]

This is a map I wipped up this morning, with 39 provinces, primarily for duels and small games - nearly half the provinces are

I will post a no specials version, once I figure some things out, and when I have it finished, I'll post the version with specials.

edit: here is the map, full version and no specials version: LINK (http://www.importantlife.net/siltrock/Siltrock.zip)

anyway, here is what it will look like:
http://www.importantlife.net/Siltrock.jpg

[shovah]

looks pretty sweet, i will have to try it

[Endoperez]

"Just whipped this up"... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

Okay, I can barely do some sprite editing, and you can do this out just like that... Well, at least you're using it for making new good-looking maps for us envious ones. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Wish]

it helps that I can draw http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

is there any guide to population types and the such?

[Boron]

Wow this is easily the most beautiful dominion map http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.
Imho it even beats Sharivar.

And 39 provinces is perfect. Finally we have something new for the weekend blitzes and then something such beautiful. Marvelous http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Wish]

actually it boiled down to 38. I accidentally had two white pixels next to eachother.

[shovah]

19 provinces each would make an intense blitz (imagine if starting provinces was set to a high number :p

[Wish]

half of them are underwater too, to allow for atlantis and rlyeh -

heres a funny occurance though, I got on a dry run, I have a province set to sea, also no start (i believe) and it lets me recruit normal infantry types and a scout... who all drown once recruited. whats causing this?

[Wish]

edited origional post to incluse a link to a zipped file with the TGA and the no specials .map

[Wish]

Ok I'm having a problem with #feature and #commander lines not taking. can I email the map to someone who knows better what they are doing and tell me what I am doing wrong?

[Turin]

just post it. A problem with #feature may be that it gets overwritten by the sites which the game adds randomly. So if you are playing with high magic sites setting(50+), some features might not show up.

[Wish]

well the problem is that they are showing up as like nifelheim and other national sites instead of what I am setting them as. Also commanders show up as the normal commanders instead of the ones I set, although their magic changes as I set it, but they aren't getting the items I give either.

here it is: LINK (http://www.importantlife.net/siltrock/Siltrock.map)

[Turin]

hmm I noticed that the "" symbols are different for the landnames and for the commander names and sites. Maybe the program needs those standardized "" symbols? Try editing your mapfile with the normal windows editor and see if that helps.

Although I´m no expert on map commands, I couldn´t find anything wrong with yours apart from that oddity.

[Wish]

thanks, that appeared to do the trick

[Morkilus]

Wow, that's pretty. I like the style. Will there be border lines added later? Hopefully that won't wreck the aesthetic. Anyway, I found a little bug:

#landname 4 "Abode of the Ancients"

#terrain 4 1553
#setland 4
#nostart 4
#poptype 40
#feature ?The Crystal Citadel?
#feature ?Ancient Temple?
#feature ?Abandoned Labratory?

Laboratory is misspelled; it probably won't work like that.

I may be inspired now; mapmaking looks like fun.

[Wish]

The way the provinces are placed seems, for the most part, defined by various changes in the scenery. I Kind of don't want to add border lines. I guess it should be played with neighbors on.

[Wish]

fixed some neighbour mistakes, the labratory thing, and added the full version of the map to the zip on the first page. Seems to be working. Okay so far.

Does it need borders guys?

[Morkilus]

I'll give it a test tonight vs my eternal nemesis, the AI. Looks like alot of fun. Any suggested settings?

[Wish]

play how ya like

[Wish]

If you need borders here is a tga with borders.

LINK (http://www.importantlife.net/siltrock/Siltrock-borders.tga)

just download it and rename it Siltrock.tga (it is named Siltrock-borders.tga)

Personally I prefer it without borders.

[Morkilus]

It's small enough that you don't really need to have the borders, I found out. You just know where everthing connects after a bit. I'm in the middle of a battle vs 3 easy AI's and I quickly overwhelmed Caelum. I like the two mountain passes on either side, and the dragon (quite a wall) in the middle. Having a tiny map sure changes the game!

[PashaDawg]

Excellent Map! Thanks.

I am sooooooo happy that there are more small maps these days for 1x1 play.

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[Wish]

Thanks Pasha

[shovah]

please tell me why i havnt downloaded this yet?

[Wish]

you would have to tell me

[Zooko]

Beauty! My brother and I will try it 1-on-1. My son wants me to play R'lyeh.

[Nerfix]

Quite unorthodox but man, that's one good-looking map! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Zooko]

For some reason I can't get it to work. No map named "Siltrock" appears in the list, even though I've put Siltrock.map into the maps/ directory, and copied Siltrock-borders.tga into maps/Siltrock.tga.

Any other ideas?

UPDATE: Oh, it is because the "maps" directory which is a sibling of the "mods" directory isn't the right place to put maps, is that right? Instead you should put them in the "maps" directory which lives in the app somewhere...]

UPDATE: Yep, that was it.

[Wish]

double post

[Wish]

oh, you have to rename siltrock-borders.tga into siltrock.tga

the .map is designed to work with the border-less tga file, not the bordered one, I put the one with borders up for those that prefer it.

oh yeah, it needs to be in dominions 2/maps not under mods anywhere

[Saber Cherry]

Very cute =)

[shovah]

I dare anyone to do a game on this map with EVERY NATION including water nations and give eevery nation 2 starting provinces (would be fun if all players gave a report)

[Endoperez]

shovah said:
I dare anyone to do a game on this map with EVERY NATION including water nations and give eevery nation 2 starting provinces (would be fun if all players gave a report)


A little bit too chatotic. Luck would play a big role, as well as the pretender. And starting spell(s), obviously. Mercenaries should be disallowed from the game. Some nations are just plain better this early in the game, and Mictlan would have no hope, except POSSIBLY as a Blood Sacrifice mayhem if it kills another nation.

It would be interesting read, but I quess Atlantis would win.

[Wish]

Tried it out, it is definately a war of dominion at first.

Also found some connection problems in the oceans, gonna have to fix those

[Wish]

Ok, the updated maps are being uploaded, the link in the first post should have everything you need

[shovah]

it would be fun to to a mp game with: all nations, 1 starting province, easy research, rich world, max sites and maybe some other rules (like on undead ermor)

[Wish]

Just for me personally, I think 1 dominion humans and no death themes should be a requirement. by which I mean no one can start with more dominion than the base human 1.

the first three turns or so are litterally the high dominion pretenders wiping out the low dominion pretenders.

[shovah]

yea, i guess (it would be like mega sudden death)

[Endoperez]

I'm not sure, but I think that would give Blood sacrificing nations a minor bonus. With Mictlan being the only one that mict actually be able to use it, I have nothing against that! They would have really hard time doing anything that early in the game.

[Wish]

mict was out on the first turn every game I tried so far

[shovah]

unlucky

[PashaDawg]

Great map!

I have been playing on it all weekend in SP. Very fun.

I like all the original names of the provinces! (I think they are original... yes?)

No need for borderlines. Works fine without 'em.

[Zooko]

I'm playing 1-on-1 against my brother. (My 4 year old son is helping me make my moves.) We made a mutual agreement not to explore the map in SP so that any special things about it will surprise us in our 1-on-1 game.

[shovah]

good luck their zooko, if your not too far into it are you up to an AAR? (just a suggestion, shouldnt be too hard to do with such a small map)

[isodea]

I really like this map. It's a lot of fun. The provinces have a lot of character. Thanks!

[Wish]

When I fixed the ocean neighbors problem, I accidentally overwrote all the specials I had in the proper siltrock, does anyone have the one I posted a few months ago - the one that still has amazons in the forest and the such? It would be great If i could get a copy of that .map again.


thanks in advance.

[PashaDawg]

I could send you whatever I have. I am pretty sure there are specials.

But... I need to go to work right now. Feel free to email me at whscom < a t > maine {d o t} rr { do t } com.

Pasha

[Wish]

email sent

[PashaDawg]

files sent!

[Wish]

ok, the file in the first post now contains everything as intended. I copied siltrock no special's neighbor list over to siltrock, so the pathing should be fixed, and the specials maintained.

[PashaDawg]

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Thanks for updating the map!

I just spend the last 6 hours playing a 1x1x1x1 SP game. I am happy to report that Pasha Pan ruled everything and vanquished all foes by the end. There was much rejoicing.

Pasha

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[PashaDawg]

Still loving this map for SP play!!

[Wish]

thanks! it does have a lasting quality, I've noticed

[Zooko]

I've been playing MP on this map. It always gets chosen because its the prettiest and because it is small.

[Wish]

thanks for good words!

[PashaDawg]

Yes! Yes!

If you ever get a chance, make another small, pretty map!

Pasha

[shovah]

a fun (suicidal) idea would be a map with only around 20! provinces, imagine the carnage.

[Wish]

I'll see what I can do, how about 21? that makes a clean division of 7 provinces in 3 nation small map (one of them aquatic)