Player 1 Obat file different or corrupt

[fossiili]

I have played two games succesfully to the end with a good frend of mine ("succesfully" in technical sense, I lost bouth /threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif).
I generated a new battle Syria-Israel 1973 and played it 2-3 turns. Now the problem appeared:
When I start the game and give orders to my troops, everything works well. It is a large region, so I must do other things meanwhile, so I click the uppward arrow etc. and close the computer. Then I come again and when I open the game, the message "Player 1 Obat file different or corrupt" appears and the gamefile opens not. The only possibility is to unzip it from the package. If I do everything at ones, stopping using --> arrow, no problems.
What to do?
I'm 71 so I become http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

[DRG]

Which player are you ? 1 or 2 ?

Don

[fossiili]

DRG said:
Which player are you ? 1 or 2 ?
Don


Probably I'm player 1.
I started generating the battle, I'm Syrian. It's a meeting, I come from the right, my opponent, Israelian from the left.

[DRG]

This only occured after playing a couple of turns ? Are you absolutely 100% certain you haven't altered or downloaded another Syrian OOB since you started the game? Are you playing full or basic security?

Don

[fossiili]

DRG said:
This only occured after playing a couple of turns ?


We have still going on the previous battle Israel/Syria from the year 1967. We started it so that he had 4000 points and I (Syrian) 5000. But we soon saw that I'll winn. Then we decided to stop the battle but wanted to know the point-situation. We could not get it clear, how the game would count the points in that situation. Is an armistice or that like possible in SPMBT?
So we slowly continue the previous Israel/Syria 1967 battle. Probably better to end it, before starting the new?


Are you absolutely 100% certain you haven't altered or downloaded another Syrian OOB since you started the game?



I'm not complety sure, what these funny OOB's are. When the problem started to appear, I totally deleted the previous SPMBT installation and foulders and installed it again with the patch.

Are you playing full or basic security?



While making the battle I gave my password and he gave his. We do not think that either of uss will try cheating but according to my experiancies, without the password one too easily occasionnallly open the opponents file and that will be annoying.

[Mobhack]

1) you cannot "surrender" a PBEM.

2) When you deleted the old installation, you deleted all PBEM info for the game,if you were playing in secure mode or basic. Your PBEM game would not be playable after that point.

3) If you installed the patch, but the PBEM game itself was started was pre-patch, the OOBS are likely to differ, so you will get an OOB error. PBEM games cannot be played after patching. If you applied a patch mid game - that is likely your problem?.

4) If you moved your PBEM game to a new folder, or tried to run it on a different machine (say a laptop), a secure PBEM game is then going to give errors as a secure game needs to be played through in exactly 100% the same environment. Same machine, same folders, same oobs, same game EXE file. Use basic security if you need to play on a remote machine (e.g. a laptop when travelling).

I'd suggest the next time - you select basic PBEM security. It is good enough for opponents you trust. Full security is best for competetive games, with experienced players.

Cheers
Andy

[fossiili]

Thank you for your answer! This all mess with security makes me feel unsecure every time I start SPMBT ...
But it's only my problem. Next time I make a battle I try not to enforce too high a security classification. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[fossiili]

And again! My frend tryed to start a PBEM game with me and sent the files to me. They were based on a skenario. And when I in the first time try to open the game, that silly error message appears:"Player 1 Obat file different or corrupt". Who is that strange "Player 1" who sends erroneous Obat files to make me and my frends life difficult?

[Mobhack]

Then your opponent (who is player 1 as he set up the PBEM) most likely has different OOB files from yours. Either he is on a different version of the game, or has edited his oobs in mobhack (or you have) (or you both have!), or has downloaded an altered version of the oob in question (or you (or both of you) have).

You'll need to speak to him about this, assuming that you have not yourself edited or altered your own OOB files.

Cheers
Andy

[Double_Deuce]

fossiili - Are either of you using the West German OOB? If so do you both have the same version. IIRC there was a revised version put up for DL as a later one (for 2.5) was incorrect.

[Pepper]

Most likely playing different versions.

[fossiili]

If I copy my Oob09 - Oob91 files and send them to my frend and he then copies the files over his files, does the http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif program let us to continue playing?

We checked the versions before we started and they are the same. The code is displayed on the WinSPMBT panel. It was v2.5-DL.

[Mobhack]

The requirement for both OOBS to be 100% in synch is in the manual. It is to prevent cheating (e.g someone editng an OOB so (say) his M1 cost 20 points).

It may be possible to recover your game by doing getting player 1 to send you his OOBS. (Player 1 sets up the game, and therefore the checksum is taken from his OOBS, and not player 2.)

However - you really should establish between yourselves who has the official and most recent oob set. If his are older, or are hacked oobs, then you will want to restore your more recent (or non hacked) oobs at some point.

You can always use the "manage OOB sets" function of the Game Options programme to handle this. Make a folder for these oobs as a custom set and then load them as necessary, you have a backup of your originals in the default OOB set.

Cheers
Andy

[fossiili]

fossiili said:
We checked the versions before we started and they are the same.


We checked the version numbers again and found that my opponent does not have 2.51. He has 2.0 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

I beg your pardon ...http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

[Mobhack]

That will be the problem then.

The version number is shown at the foot of the game's main page. look for "WinSPMBT vXX.XYY" where XX.X will be the numeric version number and YY is DL or CD for downloaded or CD version (and is irrelevant to PBEM unless you want to use the CD extra facilities, such as tournament play, when both of you will need the CD version).

Get your friend to update to 2.51, and then you should be in business.

Cheers
Andy