The Senate of Dragon Country [server is up!]

[castigated]

The game is up:
ip: 70.29.202.130
port: 2350

Game Settings
Map: Dependent on Players
Starting Provinces: 1
Indy strength: 9
Magic Sites: 50
Richness: Normal
Events: Common
Graphs: Enabled
HoF: 15
Research: Difficult
Victory Condition: ? (i'm thinking 1/3 of provinces maybe?)
Master password: Enabled
Renaming: Allowed
Cheat Prevention: Active
Mods: Dragon mod and CB 5.4 (i'm pretty sure they are compatible)
Death themes not allowed (SG, AE and CW)

Rules
1. All nations are encouraged to select a dragon pretender, to act as a Senator. I think it would be good if everyone included "Senator" at the beginning of their pretender's name.
2. Any player not selecting a dragon pretender will not be able to act as a senator or vote on any proposals.
2. Any nation, including non-senators, may put forth any proposal to the senate. The proposal must be numbered (preferably in order, but any number not taken is acceptable). Proposals are to be posted in this thread. Every Senator is allowed to vote either "Acceptable" or "Not Acceptable" to each proposal. To vote, they will send an email to castigatedominions@gmail.com with "Proposal #x" as the subject, and their decision in the body of the email.
3. If 50% of voting Senators deem the proposal as "Acceptable", then it will be so. Anyone may confirm the vote at any time by logging into this account at gmail.com . The password is "dominions". Please don't delete anything from the inbox on this email address.
4. No player is allowed to attack any province controlled by any other player, without the council's permission. Players may attack any province with a white flag at any time.
5. If the council deems that another Senator may attack your province, you are still allowed to defend said province as you see fit.
6. If two players attack the same province on the same turn, this will not be considered as breaking any rules, assuming both Senators leading attacks on the province were allowed to do so. Whoever controls the province at the end of the turn will become the rightful owner.
7. Spies, stealthy preaching, creating unrest with stealth, and anonymous attacks are allowed, but if detected, can be used as reasons to convince others to vote a certain way in a proposal.
8. Any player breaking any of these rules will become a rogue nation for a duration of 5 turns. Any player may attack another player in rogue state without penalty from the council.

Senators (please include your race and which dragon you'd like to use)
castigated - r'lyeh
wish for blood slaves - marignon
shovah - mictlan
peacekeeper - man
morkilus - jotunheim
ZeWanker - Vanheim
Reverend Zombie - C'tis
Kissblade - Tien Chi
Tyrant - Pythium

please post with suggestions, other rules, and confirm gods and dragons. looking at starting this game sometime next week, maybe thursday or friday. i also figured i'd probably host by email using the same email address mentionned above, hosting 3x a week (sunday, tuesday and thursday?)

[Wish]

confirm marignon, fire dragon (if we aere doing unique dragons)

[Morkilus]

I'm picking Jotunheim with the Dracolich.

Introducing Senator Kr'Clidack, the everliving.

[Ironhawk]

Master password: Disabled



Why?

[castigated]

uhh...mork. i definitely called rlyeh on the old thread. and when i made the first post originally, i called it. i think you're out of luck, but if you REALLY want it, you can have it.

i was pretty set on it and excited, though.

i guess i could enable master password. i just feel like people could accuse me of something. if that's not the case, though, i'll switch it to enabled.

[shovah]

Mictlan for me with the draco sanguinus please. thanks for offering to host btw (i probably would have messed it up anyway)
edit: all hail senator vicente valtiere!
ps: if we get a few more players i suggest saephi as the map

[Ironhawk]

castigated said:
i guess i could enable master password. i just feel like people could accuse me of something. if that's not the case, though, i'll switch it to enabled.



Just being the host (even w/o the master password enabled) gives you more than enough power to maliciously effect the game. You can delete people's turns, force-host to make an enemy stale, or delay host to give yourself more time, etc. But having a master password at least enables you to handle any logistical problems that pop up with your players. Like if someone just wanders away from the game without saying anything, you can at least AI or sub them with the master password.

[castigated]

thanks, IH. appreciate the feedback.

[Peacekeeper]

Ill take arco, but would like to play without a dragon as a pretender. I accept all the consequences of this, such as having no vote on propositions, etc. Any other consequences you think make sense Id like you to list and I will probably accept(just making sure there are no surprises).

If yall dont want something like this....well, put me down as a maybe.

[castigated]

i assume that's fine. i say he can still put propositions forth, and is view as an honourable nation by the council, unless he breaks other rules, at which point he will become free game for 5 months time. he will not have a vote.

[shovah]

i have an idea for non dragons: extend their 5 month time a little bit, nothing game altering but just a bit of an extra incentive to be a dragon

[castigated]

i still don't think they should be able to vote. if other people agree with you, though, then cool though.

talking to pk, he sort of expected to be "fair game" to everyone for the whole game...so i don't think he's too picky.

[Peacekeeper]

I have no intention on getting a vote on propositions. I can understnad extending my 5 months rogue statue.

I didnt expect to be fair game, i said it would be interesting to play it that way and have to negotiate my survival with my neighbours/etc =)

[OG_Gleep]

IMHO we should all do dragons or drop the theme, as there are a lot of things that can munch a dragon(wyrms can destroy dragons), or have easier time getting access to multiple paths. If 90% of the players are using something that can be beaten by 10% of the players, it creates an un-even playing field.

[ZeWanker]

I'd like in... not sure what race... maybe Pan...

[Morkilus]

We had the same sort of thing going in Council of Wyrms, and it ended up only one person decided to be a non-wyrm out of 17. I doubt it will be a problem, but we shall see... as far as game balance is concerned, observe what happened when the will of the council turned against R'lyeh in CoW. I wouldn't like to be in the "dragonslayer"'s shoes or scales or whatever as the arrogant one who wants to wreck our RP'ing fun. Plus it will give us senators something fun to do besides bicker with one another. But if it ends up more than half non-dragons, I agree we will have to put the house-rule foot down just so we can have our theme.

I imagine the non-dragons will have to make a "coalition of the meek" in order to survive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

I still haven't decided on a nation yet, but I still would like to play (as a dragon).

[OG_Gleep]

I would like to withdraw from the game. I learned that I can't do PBEM's.

[castigated]

why not?...no email address? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[shovah]

og, i felt the same way until a little while ago. if its technical problems i cant help but if its you cant figure out how then here it is: create an empty folder in your dom2 folder with the name of the game your playing, the host will send you the .trn file for your nation which you save to the game folder. you load up dominions and play whatever the game is called and then end your turn when your done. then you email the .2h file from the games folder to the host. (sorry if its just problems with your email or something)

[Morkilus]

I think this game will be relatively slow, OG. Are you worried that you'll bog us down? It sounds like you'd like a slower RPG type game anyway.

[OG_Gleep]

Due to some things I'd not like to get into, my memory is bad. I tried a PBEM game in Clash of Armies, and I just couldn't keep my turns straight and ended up stalling half my turns. Shovah you took over for me because of that.

I'm not going to get into any more PBEM games. Its not fair to the members of the game, and its not fair to those playing in Clash of Armies.

But I wish you guys luck. Sounds like fun.

[ZeWanker]

I doubt it would make it easier but if all else fails I can host it. (Standard TCP/IP)

[castigated]

sure, we can probably set up a tcp/ip game....let me do the math real quick...24hr in a day, x 7 days (168) /3 = 68hr hosting schedule by tcp/ip?

i think it could work.

[ZeWanker]

or I can manual host every set number of day (that's an option right...)

Edit oh and 168/3 = 56...

[Reverend Zombie]

I'd like C'tis, please, provided this is going to be a TCP/IP game.

[shovah]

you going for a dragon?

[KissBlade]

TC please. And by the way, I advise the game be dragons only since that's the idea I had in mind when I suggested it. =)

Also 48 QH will be much better than 24 for this style of game I believe. People should be encouraged to post in a message board of sorts to encourage roleplay as that's the fun of being dragons. =)

[Reverend Zombie]

shovah said:
you going for a dragon?



Yep, not sure which one yet, though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Wish]

On second thought, unique dragons might be to limiting

[Morkilus]

It would mean we could only have 11 dragons total, and the first signups would have a distinct advantage. In a long game, it's better to play what makes you happy I imagine. I'm waiting to pick a dragon/nation so I can play something odd. Though I'm leaning towards Jotunheim/Dracolich since it's a unique.

[castigated]

umm...kiss....it was going to be hosting less often than 48 hours...3x/week was the plan. so yeah.

also, i have 2 votes against non-dragons, and as far as i know, i'm the only one for non-dragons. anyone else want to vote? (non-dragons can't vote http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif)

[Morkilus]

I don't mind non-dragons as long as they number less than the number of dragons. It can still be fun RP-wise, as interracial tension is one of the standbys of drama since forever... but we need a critical mass of Senators for this game to be fun. I figure we need at least 10 dragons for the game to be interesting. Ultimately, it's your decision cast.

[shovah]

i agree with mork

[ZeWanker]

I plan on playing a dragon, but, esp if we get alot of players, non-dragon would be cool.

Edit I think I've settled on Van if that's cool with people.

[shovah]

dosnt bother me, i would also like to remind people to be wary of death matches because the sacrifice a little mage can ruin your day (i sent in a f1 sage ands got himed to blind zookos pretender in CoW, some-one sending in a shaman and cursing them would be bad too)

[KissBlade]

Well I'm picking Earth Dragon.

[Reverend Zombie]

Was it ever decided if dragons are to be unique?

[Tyrant]

I'd like to play Pythium. Where can i find the dragon mod mentioned above?

[castigated]

so i'm thinking of asking zewanker to put up a server tomorrow sometime, and hopefully have the first host thursday at midnight my (and zewanker's) time...which is GMT -5. we will probably either set it to host 3x per week, or sundays, tuesdays and thursdays at midnight, our time.

looks like we have 9 players, 8 of which are playing senators. any suggestions for a map?

tyrant, i don't know how to link things without html, but if you go to the mod forum, there's a thread in there called "dragon mod".

if anyone has any changes to be made to the rules, please say so quickly, as once the game starts, a council ruling will be required in order to change any of them.

[Morkilus]

Reverend Zombie said:
Was it ever decided if dragons are to be unique?



They don't have to be, no. We'll get more dragons if everyone's happy with their picks.

[shovah]

it will be a little big but can we do saephi? that map rocks

[Wish]

I would like to run it on saephi, but do you want it with or without specials. This will determine what you can recruit from the border provinces.

[shovah]

id prefer with specials but i guess its up to cast, anything that makes it more interesting is good imo (especially for a diplomacy heavy game like this)

[castigated]

if you guys like it, then i don't see why not. we'll say we're going for saephi with special sites. any disagreements?

[ZeWanker]

Server is up. IP:port = 70.29.202.130:2350
IP is dynamic but it shouldn't change, if you think it has ping ravens-hawk.homelinux.com (actually if you want you can enter that as the IP)

My router is being a ***** so I mey need to reset it from time to time, however you should still be able to get through. If all else fails I'll bypass.

[castigated]

after running a few tests....i have come to the conclusion that with indy 9, there is a good possibility that we shoudl be able to hammer through the first 5-10 turns....

so here is what i propose...until turn 10, we leave it on 48hr quickhost, hopefully getting turns at least every 24 hours. after turn 10, though, switch to 3x/week non-quickhost. just so it's consistent with hosting times. (it would be hosting every 56 hours)

unless anyone can suggest something else, this is what we'll do.

[Wish]

uploaded Senator Anachron

[Peacekeeper]

Im changing to Man and am indeed playing a dragon.

Senator Bai Ling has been uploaded.

[castigated]

mork, you going to enlighten us as to which race you plan on playing before the game starts? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[shovah]

senator vicente valtiere is up and loaded

[ZeWanker]

Mork edited his first post which what he's playing I think.

[Reverend Zombie]

I'll load C'tis later today.

[Peacekeeper]

id like to play without the special sites. sundering has given me bad experiences with them =)

[castigated]

actually, in my play testing, i'm tending to agree with pk....

anyone particularly strongly in favour of keeping them?

[castigated]

just waiting on Reverend Zombie, Tyrant and Morkilus at this point. try get them up in the next, say, 7 hours or so.

[Tyrant]

I'll upload shortly, but i do have a few questions about what attacks are allowed without Council sanction.

Assasination?
Spells like Hurricane, Blight, Swarm etc?
Neutral monster attacks like Send Horror?
Hostile Globals like Wrath of The Sea or Wild Hunt?
Assasin spells like Earth Attack or Mind Hunt?

[Reverend Zombie]

I've loaded.

[castigated]

tyrant, though this is definitely open for change, my thoughts were basically that any anonymous attack was okay. if they can't prove it was you, then there is no way of being removed from the senate for such an attack, even if it was likely you.

i also believe that all globals should be allowed, though i suppose this could also be changed.

[Tyrant]

So anonymity is the criterion then. Check

Uploaded and ready to go.

[Reverend Zombie]

shovah said:
senator vicente valtiere is up and loaded



Crap! I forgot to put Senator in my pretender's name. That doesn't make me rogue, does it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[castigated]

upload again?

[Tyrant]

uh, me too, i'll try to change it if it's not too late

[castigated]

if you don't have senator, it's not a big deal. i think i said in the first post "players are encouraged to..."

[Wish]

haha, I must have been tired, I named mine lord instead of senator.

oh well.

[Wish]

P.S. Looks like the game has started

did everyone manage an upload? or did someone click the start game button to soon?

[ZeWanker]

Yeah I was told to start the game. Its on 48 quick host for now. If we need to restart (to change settings etc, as I used the ones discussed here) now would be a good time...

[Wish]

I see you altered the map file. I guess those hoping to recruit trogs, trolls, and maybe some amazons will be suprised!

[ZeWanker]

The only change I made was no special sites, which was mentioned earlier in this thread. Otherwise I'm using the same map as here
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=405549&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

[castigated]

the first senator is dead. please let us konw when your senator has been revived so we can count on his vote happening.

[Wish]

you scared me, I thought maybe it hosted and I didn't succeed at a militia heavy province! how embarassing that would be.

for some reason on every test run I did, I started in the same sector of the map - same as where I started in this game.

Honestly not the worst place to be.

[ZeWanker]

lol and why can't my senator send messages from beyond the grave?

I'll let you guys know when it's back.

[KissBlade]

Blech! The fates did not smile favourably upon my nation. Horrible start position next to wastes and mountains and temple gone already. I even had to alchemize to build a new one!

[Wish]

yeah, thats some awful luck, but everyone has some mountains (its how the map is designed, mostly to increase resources) and some people covet wastes because of the magic sites the sometimes have.

Your area, like all areas, should have at least two wealthy provinces.

[shovah]

turns up, sorry for holding everyone up but i kinda forgot about this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
i had one of those scary moments this turn, with the enemy fleeing from my almighty senator (who was reduced to around 20 health) with my heart pounding everytime he moved incase his flying brought him face to face with a broadsword weilding warrior who could potentially kill him in 1 hit. luckily no harm done yet.

[OG_Gleep]

Anyone playing draco...how did he work soloing? I couldn't get him to work, maybe because I don't understand bloodmagic that well.

[shovah]

i solo'd with mine, didnt even use blood magic.

[Peacekeeper]

....

i had one of those scary moments this turn, with the enemy fleeing from my almighty senator (who was reduced to around 20 health) with my heart pounding everytime he moved incase his flying brought him face to face with a broadsword weilding warrior who could potentially kill him in 1 hit. luckily no harm done yet.



doesnt sound like it went all that well.

[shovah]

well he was reduced to 20 health, won the fight and got no afflictions so not too bad.

[KissBlade]

Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
yeah, thats some awful luck, but everyone has some mountains (its how the map is designed, mostly to increase resources) and some people covet wastes because of the magic sites the sometimes have.

Your area, like all areas, should have at least two wealthy provinces.



You're right, but I forget to mention the plains are full of dragon eating crossbow men with heavy cavs and the other side man eating jade amazons. =(

[Wish]

I had a turn like that, turn 1, where lord anachron was reduced to 14 health, however he suffered no afflictions and everyone routed before he died. Not playing draco here either though.

[Tyrant]

I looks like everyone has uploaded but the turn did not fire

[ZeWanker]

Yeah not sure what happened there, probably related to a random reboot (windows auto-update being a bastard.) Anyhow I force hosted this turn (my only option) and set it back to 48h quick host, so all should be well.

[Peacekeeper]

Another one of us has joined Senator Rook among the ranks of the dead. A moment of silence will be taken in the lands of Man for Senator Vicente Valtiere.

[shovah]

this is a very bad game for me, unrest in the capitol, pretender dying and random barbarian attacks. lucky me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[KissBlade]

haha, I lost my temple on turn 3 AND had a hurricane at my best province and my capital got an ill omen in the first 7 turns! BEAT THAT!

[shovah]

id rather not http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Wish]

at least the senate will allow you some comfort to rebuild, likely even the weakest nations will make it into the late game, by account of the CoW game, anyway.

[shovah]

yes, but a slow start is quite damageing since other players often grab territorys you would have otherwise gained.

[Peacekeeper]

You guys are getting all these bad events. I have turmoil 3/luck 3 and havnt gotten a single event. Good or bad.

[KissBlade]

If your next turn gives you 1500 gold, can I have 200 of it?

[Wish]

my events haven't been devistating, lost my temple, but already have an inquisitor to rebuild it with. otherwise they've been mostly gems or small gold events.

[KissBlade]

Oh yeah, well there was the time I got a "handful of earth gems" and I check my lab and see ONE. They could've at least not pluraled it.

[castigated]

getting 1500 gold in one turn is definitely feasibile. in rand2, i got 2 of the 500gold events in the same turn. the sad thing was that i had no problem spending every penny of it that turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[shovah]

ok bye bye everyone, im surrounded by enemys and as mictain with no provinces to hunt in yet im going to be dominion killed soon. ive already lost the province that was attacked by barbarians to pythium so i'll play this to the end but just saying bye in advance.

[Wish]

there is a 1500 gold event, it also comes with gems, and a magic item.

[Morkilus]

Maybe we need to form a Coalition of the Unlucky. You can be chairdragon, Shovah.

[KissBlade]

Perhaps we should propose that Pythium returns the province back to Mictlan as it was rather taken through a loophole cause than a legitimate one?

[castigated]

i would say that's a very legitimate way to get a province, but if you want to put forward a proposition, feel free to do so.

[shovah]

ive got a bad enough start that i dont mind, im already in CoW so i wont be missing much by dying. only problem now is deciding who to give my small wealth to.

[KissBlade]

*** A bit of roleplaying for you all ***

Senator Black Wind speaks,

"Surely you'll see that our brother Vicente Valtiere, though temporarily deceased deserves to be treated better. After all, we are dragons and not vultures or similarly despicable scavengers. To use the example of "humans" to apply to this metaphor as the two ape like things are very easy to compare to most degenerate species, if a man trips and falls in the mud is it right to take what falls out of his pocket? In this case, the man who is doing the taking happens already to be a very rich man and the man who is at loss is but a destitute. Surely the great Senator Augustus will be glad to return what was originally Mictlans to ensure that our brother is not left with naught ..."

[shovah]

dear Senator Blackwind
while I and my Mictlan servants appreciate your compassion but fear it is unlikely to help. Even I feel that my peoples cause is a lost one.

[shovah]

server could be down.

[Wish]

definately looks down on my end

[shovah]

going to be out for the weekend, sorry for the short notice.

[shovah]

back, sry for any inconvenience

[Wish]

I think the server is still down

[shovah]

yea, it is (just noticed)

[Peacekeeper]

ze is out of town until monday so its not going to be up before then.

[ZeWanker]

Yeah sorry about that, I'm not sure if my net connection went down over the weekend or what. I'm at work right now but I'll see more when I get home this evening. Hopefully the server just crashed and we can pickup where we left off. (IE no stale turns to deal with)

[Wish]

well a stalew turn or two will just make us all richer. at least it will be across the board.

[ZeWanker]

it would also mean the rich get richer... But its not an issue as my computer had just crashed shouldn't be an issue in the future.

[Wish]

hooray for the game being active again, boo for losing a province to barbarians

[shovah]

ok cya around. indies that i have no way to defeat in my current state and the expansionist pythium have all the provinces around my capitol other than 1 which is low income and has nothing else special so bye.

[Wish]

man, don't just drop, at least find a replacement. bad form.

[shovah]

im not dropping, just officially declaring my defeat.

[Morkilus]

Kr'Clidack speaks:

Declaring one's own weakness or bad luck is not very Draconian. Look at yours truly: already dead! Bunches of times, apparently, since the scales have fallen off my ancient bones. But true dragons are proud and shall fight on despite death and misfortune. And now for some politics:

What do other dragons think of a law protecting the provinces adjacent to their capitol? This may give some dragons room to stretch their wings, in a way. This law should not be retroactive, but will protect adjacent independent provinces that are not taken yet, or are lost to the rampaging barbarians from being taken by an opportunistic wyrm. Shall I draw up the document, or are we uninterested in such a proposal?

Good night, and good luck.

[Wish]

I vote such a law acceptable

[KissBlade]

I vote such a law acceptable as well. And mind you, I find that resigning in defeat so early is behavior befitting of ... worms! Not dragons.

[Tyrant]

1) Is everyone in the Senate?

2) This is not quite the procedure outlined above for Senate proposals outlined in the setup above.

3)What about provences that are adjacent to two capitols?

[castigated]

i believe several senators are dead at this time. i also believe that no official proposal has been made, but rather Kr'Clidack has proposed to make a proposal. no approvals required, since the proper procedures were not followed as of yet.

[KissBlade]

I am so confused, it makes more sense to me that approvals be brought up here on the forum so it could be discussed and voted on rather than some sort of secret ballot.

[Wish]

On this map it is impossible to have provinces adjacent to two capitols, as all starting locations are at least 3 provinces apart. (two buffer provinces, and a gateway province)

It is how I designed it.

[castigated]

"Shall I draw up the document, or are we uninterested in such a proposal?" sounds like he was just looking for feedback. having all the votes on the forum would make it a lot more cluttered and harder to read.

also, to keep things simple, any proposal has to be numbered, as per the original rules. that way, once more than one proposal happens at the same time, we all know what's going on.

[Wish]

is there a dragon country wiki?

[Tyrant]

"On this map it is impossible to have provinces adjacent to two capitols, as all starting locations are at least 3 provinces apart. (two buffer provinces, and a gateway province)"

FYI R'yleh and i have only one provence between capitols. Does not matter in our case since i already own it, and it sounds like it's an anomoly related to underwater start.

[Wish]

oh yeah, except when it is land vs. underwater provinces.

[Wish]

though the two underwaters should have at least two between eachother, I believe

[Morkilus]

Slight problem with the voting system:

How do we tell when the deadline should be? Shall the proposing Dragon make the deadline? Should it be by real time, or dragon time? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[castigated]

mork, when you post on the forums, it says the time. 24 hours from then is what i was figuring. and i believe the eime is specific to your account, so that shoudl be real time.

[Morkilus]

Would you mind updating the first post, then? It's not in the text as far as I can see. I may be completely blind tho.

[castigated]

look at rule #2 (i realize there are 2 of them, not sure how that happened, but the second #2)....everything you need is there, and i didnt' even have to update it.

[Tyrant]

Are R'lyeh and Man still playing?

[KissBlade]

well Ryleh IS the guy who's hosting this game O_o.

[Peacekeeper]

Im sorry, i havnt had time or the motivation recently to play my turns. If someone would like to sub in for me(man), give me a PM and ill give ya all the necessaries.

[castigated]

i'm in the same boat as pk. sorry for any inconvenience this causes.

[ZeWanker]

I'll sub for you both!
But really what better things do you have to do?

[KissBlade]

wait if castigated doesn't feel like playing, this whole game is pointless because we don't even know exactly how the "council" works.

[KissBlade]

Also, I have had a recent incursion of trogolytes into province 85 (high woods), I shall be removing this nuisance with excessive force. Any interferers will be eaten.

[shovah]

he means he hope no-one takes it while he reclaims it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Wish]

did the server go back down?

[ZeWanker]

"Your computer has recovered from a serious error."
Vile Windows.

[Tyrant]

Has this game just petered out?

[Wish]

it's memorial day weekend, people need time for bbq's and what have you, i guess.

The stale clock is set to be extremely long, I mean I didn't even come back to check all weekend, and when I did come back we where waiting on 4 people

[ZeWanker]

The program crashed half way through the weekend so I reset it. Still got 24 hours for the next turn. Speaking of which does cast or PK care if I force host? Or do they plan on getting replacements/ going to AI?

[Wish]

did it crash again?

[KissBlade]

Are people still playing this game ...?

[Tyrant]

Not all of 'em for sure. I'm going to call roll with an in game message and see who is still around. If it's fewer than 5 i'm thinking we should bag it.

[Reverend Zombie]

Looks as though at LEAST 6 of us are still playing: Pyth, Ctis, Mari, Van, Jot and Tien Chi. Man, R'lyeh and Mict have yet to do the current turn.

[KissBlade]

I'm playing but I'm thinking of just calling it since the guy who's supposed to actually handle the council affairs isn't even playing. Unless we get a replacement for that at the very least, I'm not even sure of what to do with the game.

[Wish]

sucks when your lab burns down in your capitol :/

[KissBlade]

Hey, I just noticed it's seventeen minutes and Mork hasn't entered his turn yet. Noticing that it's a 24 hour clock now, is Mork aware of this?

[Wish]

I'm having trouble connecting to server

n/m apparently it was the ravens-hawk.homelinux thing that wasn't working. the ip works fine.

[Tyrant]

Have we lost Jot and C'tis?

[ZeWanker]

From what I've seen shovah and morkilus pretty much have stopped playing, and Reverend Zombie has been in and out. I could be wrong I'm just judging by game activity of the top of my head.

[Tyrant]

Shovah, peacekeeper and castigated are definatly out. I kinda thought you, mork, and RZ were sporadic, but i wasn't sure. Despite the weirdness of this one, i am acutally enjoying it in a relaxed and low key sort of way.

[Tyrant]

Right in the middle of my kingdom there was a provence with a half a dozen Vine Ogres, 20ish Hamma Dryads, 100 Vinemen a couple of K. Lions, a Lord of Fertility, AND a Great Mother loaded down with gems (sheesh!). Awhile back i tried to attrition it down with a large mob of gladiators and archers (see giant up and down wave in my army size), but that didn't really accomplish much. So finally i am mighty enough to take care of it and i send a decent army with lots of casters and my brand new fully equipped Air Queen to kick their butts. Guess what?... i won the battle,the mommy charmed my air queen, but then i enslaved the souls of both the air queen and the Great Mother, so now i have both of them as lobo slaves!

[Wish]

I wonder if that makes the air queen resommanable. I can garauntee that the magma firelord is no longer available, and I am rushing to get the gems necessary for an air queen...

[Tyrant]

I'm pretty sure she is not resommonable

[KissBlade]

Just wondering, how many people are actually still active in this game???

[Reverend Zombie]

I am. Missed one turn recently, but I think it was the first time I staled.

[Wish]

I am

[Tyrant]

There are 5 of us still playing regularly, and Jot may be playing sometimes, not sure about that though.

[Wish]

I haven't seen jot do anything for a while. tempted to wipe them up.

[Morkilus]

Sorry guys, I thought this game died a long time ago. The voting scheme seemed broken, so I couldn't make war with Man even though I'd been sending threatening messages.

[Wish]

I say lets let this devolve into a game with normal politics... since the senate thing isn't working.

[KissBlade]

I'd say if Mork is interested in playing again, let him absorb the unactive nations so his nation will be caught up with ours.

[Wish]

I am opposed to that since my nation has been stiffled by an inability to expand for AGES. I mean TC and pythium got a pretty big cut, but I got jotunhiem in the way.

[KissBlade]

Hmm... well it certainly doesn't make sense to have all the inactives just hold up the territories nor for the two largest nations to take those provinces. Perhaps jot, marignon and Vanheim can come to an agreement with just splitting the provinces of the inactives?

[Morkilus]

Bring it on, then, Wish. Bwargh!

I'm way too far behind to be much of a threat, but I'll give you a battle or two (maybe). I'll be back to play tonight.

[Wish]

i've been choked the whole game, let me muster up a force of some sort.

[Morkilus]

uh... yeah, me too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Wish]

which air queen was it that lost her commandership? If it was thuella, then she is definately resummonable, since I nabbed her. (If not, I am guessing all the air queens are now taken)

[KissBlade]

It was Thuella if I recall, Queen of Thunder right? and DARN! Nice job but if I knew she was resummonable I would've taken the risk and tried to summon her >_>.

[shovah]

I dont think you would have got her, pretty sure marignon casts before TC.

[Tyrant]

Heh, well guys, it's like this...
The very next turn after I enslaved the mind of my charmed Queen, and before i could build the lab nessicary to restore her mind, the patroling force she was assigned to found a giant scout lurking in the bushes. She flew forward to kill him, and was immediatly skragged by friendly fire from a dozen shortbowmen! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

[KissBlade]

LoL, how an air queen dies to a dozen shortbowmen is just baffling by itself ... Jotun just killed an air queen with a scout =).

[Wish]

haha, thats really weird.... however even if thuella was summonable while a version of her was enslaved... she could always be gift of reasoned back up... and thus have two thuellas. (though the GoR'd one might have a random name)

kind of the same way you can have more via wishes.

[shovah]

yea, wishing for loads of something is fun (hmm, maybe demon lords would be good targets for wish)

[KissBlade]

OMG THOSE STUPID TRITONS. I JUST TOOK province 68 and the tritons invade it. Now I'm forced to take the damn thing AGAIN. Are you kidding me? >_<

[Wish]

heh, yeah, thems the breaks. I have an amber clan sitting south of me, I've been wanting to take them out, but my equiped assassins are not having any luck

[KissBlade]

On a side note, there's still one more air queen to be nabbed isn't there?

[Wish]

you could always try. I can't garauntee it.

[KissBlade]

I notice you sent an army to 68 even after I warned I would be sending mine there Senator Augustus ...

[Tyrant]

yea, dangit. Actually i was headed there the first time you went, but i staled that turn, then saw it go neutral and sent the army, then saw your post and decided to not to change it. I can't believe that rottten little spectre beat me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

[KissBlade]

Is hosting down?

[Tyrant]

I cannot connect

[ZeWanker]

Quess it must be a new quarter, new IP = 74.105.153.208.

[KissBlade]

Looks like the race to Mictlan's capital is on!

On a side note, Pythium really took a hit with indies o_O.

[KissBlade]

The Good Senator Black Wind must warn Pythium that I do consider Wrathful Skies ... a hostile action ... I would hope such enchantments are refrained from in the future or wild hunts may start occuring ...

[Wish]

I agree, such an action is hostile to the entire senate, and should not be tolerated

[KissBlade]

My own country men is slain from lightning by a malicious Senator. If such a spell is not dispelled this very turn, I shall call a vote to declare the empire of Pythium rogue!

Furthermore, I demand a vote that Pythium pays 250 gold each for reparations damages incurred to all nations for such a spell! I vote "yay!" upon this bill!.

[ZeWanker]

So voted.

[Wish]

yay

[Reverend Zombie]

Yea!

[KissBlade]

ZeWanker is that a "yay" or "nay" because I believe there is only 6 active senators left and 4 votes should be enough to cast it into the majority.

[ZeWanker]

Yay

[Tyrant]

I vote nay :>.

Furthurmore, i insist that you need a full majority to pass a motion. I would ,however, support a motion to eject the sleeping dragons from the senate.

FYI the enchantment in question is a responce to numerous anonymous attacks upon the health and well being of my beloved subjects by parties "unknown" . (cough...tienchi...cough..cough)

[KissBlade]

I vote yay for a motion to eject the sleeping dragons from the senate as well. Second, you should at least bring forth proof before accusing me so wantonly of any attacks (which save for YOUR invasion of a province I had already taken) I had no such part of. Thirdly, I am investing a significant amount to dispel your enchantment but I would call upon the council to take hostile actions if such enchantments is not removed at once!

[ZeWanker]

Note server may go down shortly as there is a tornado warning in my area.

[Wish]

Aye to ejecting sleepers as well!

[KissBlade]

Huh? How did my mother oak "dispelled when another global enchantment was created" by another mother oak?! >_<

[ZeWanker]

Only one can exist at a time? Tyrant cast first? (Or acts before you in the round.)

[KissBlade]

No, mines was first ...

[Tyrant]

I cast it with more gems than you used originally and thus overwrote it.This is always the way it works when the slots are full and you cast the same spell.

If the slots are full and you cast a different global it's not so clear. I think that the new one goes up against a random existing global and the higher gem count wins, but some people believe that which old global the new global opposes is not random. Some people also believe that the the usual 2d6oe opposed roll is used for global dispells and overwrites, but i'm nearly certain that that is not the case and the larger one wins automaticly.

[Tyrant]

Out of curiosity, how many gems did you use dispelling my WoG? I used 103 to put it up.

[KissBlade]

WoG? A lot, let's just leave it at that ... hehe =)

[KissBlade]

Pythium has gone rogue ...

[Wish]

uh oh

[Morkilus]

Sorry guys, I have no internet anymore and it'll probably be a while until I'm up and running again (i'm at work now). I'll look for replacements, or you can start gobbling... your choice.

[KissBlade]

I think someone already started gobbling you. O_o

[Wish]

you are mostly gobbled up already, since you had accepted a war challenge from me, I took it as mutual consent.

[KissBlade]

With a 23 MR ... you'd think that tartarian wouldn't have fell to the first enslave mind ...

[KissBlade]

... Eh I don't care what you say aside from you have to got to be incredibly lucky this game Pythium. There is no way your paralyze should've pierced a 33 MR ...

Edit: Nevermind, it wasn't the the paralyze. It was the FRIGGING BATTLE AI NOT USING the 10 AIR GEMS IN IT'S disposal and instead casting wrathful skies to jump to a whopping 192 fatigue! IS DOMINION II BEING SERIOUS?!

[Tyrant]

That first enslave mind was indead lucky, but it was 19 pen against 23 MR, so it wasn't all that lucky. I'm afraid i don't have much sympathy though, given that you have 6 or 7 more elemental royals and gosh knows how many tartarians left! /threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif

How many air gems did your air queen use? There is a limit, and i think that CB raised the cost for Wrathfull Skies. I'll have to go back and look at that again, i did think it was odd that she passed out, but did not have time to disect the battle.

It's a good thing i like Chinese food, 'cause i think that you have this game in the bag. I'm pleased to be able to win a few battles at least.

[KissBlade]

Tyrant said:
That first enslave mind was indead lucky, but it was 19 pen against 23 MR, so it wasn't all that lucky. I'm afraid i don't have much sympathy though, given that you have 6 or 7 more elemental royals and gosh knows how many tartarians left! /threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif

How many air gems did your air queen use? There is a limit, and i think that CB raised the cost for Wrathfull Skies. I'll have to go back and look at that again, i did think it was odd that she passed out, but did not have time to disect the battle.

It's a good thing i like Chinese food, 'cause i think that you have this game in the bag. I'm pleased to be able to win a few battles at least.



LoL, it's good to have a good old fashion post battle discussion on the forums. =) Takes the stress out of events. My air Queen used three out of the ten air gems I gave her. Also believe it or not, my resources are being taxed to the limit as I can't replenish my units nearly as quickly as you can given the huge income disparity. It's amusing as it almost seems a case of magic vs might + some magic.

Make no mistake, that Aella was the creme of the crop of my SC's with a 30 in defense, protection, 33 MR among many other goodies. The only reason she wasn't scripted for battle was because she had a ritual of returning on her XD. Which made it of course all the more insulting that she died -.-.

Plus your ID's with Amon Hotep should be a fun thing to try stopping =\.

[Wish]

just for the record, man found one of my scouts and lost, I did not attack man.

however, since man is a constant staler, I don't think they will complain.

[KissBlade]

Heh ... I'm ok with calling game unless you guys still want to keep going. Pythium pretty much fell so I think I probably hold the significant advantage at this point.

[Wish]

eh, you'll probably win, but the joys of set-diplomatic games is the ability to build and grow internally, rather than externally - one of the focuses of the game that seem to be undermined by heavy war activity.

at some point everyonw ill have wished up SCs and armies throwing tons of spells, and the final conflicts will be huge and awesome.

[KissBlade]

Heh, well you guys might as well expand into Ctis and Man since they seem to be staling at the moment. I'll delay the game a bit to let you guys build up enough to fight my ongrowing army of tartarians =).

[Wish]

hey, we're all at peace because of the senate. You aren't planning to go rogue are you?

[KissBlade]

Heh, no. At this point I'm just experimenting with different summons now on the remainder of pythium =).

[KissBlade]

That's odd ... I somehow staled even after I sent in my turn ...

[Wish]

that is weird for a server game.

[ZeWanker]

Seeing as C'tis is now AI, how do we feel about declaring open season on C'tis? In fact I would request that the four remaining consul members cast a vote on this matter, henceforth to be referred to as Proposal 42.

Please vote Yae or Nay on this matter.

I vote Yae.

[KissBlade]

Yae!

[Wish]

yes.

[ZeWanker]

So are declaring open season on Man and R'lyeh or did Marignon just go rouge?

[KissBlade]

I am fine with declaring open season on Man and Ryleh. Weed out the inactives!!

[Wish]

indeed. I do feel, however, that it will be difficult to beat tien chi, given their lead on the rest of us.

but it might be fun to see the intense battles, if and when the time comes (i have a feeling dom 3 will kill the game relatively soon.)

[KissBlade]

I can spit force the legions now if you wish ~_^

[KissBlade]

Hey guys, are we going to try any armageddon style battles or call it here?

[ZeWanker]

Up to you guys. FYI I gotta take the server down for part of Friday and Saturday. But we can keep going if you want, however I think its pretty much decided.

[Wish]

I'm willing to call the game. (I think TC won)

[ZeWanker]

I'd say so.

[KissBlade]

Sounds fine by me. You guys can take a look at my turn if you wish. My pretender isn't passworded =).