View Full Version : Who else pre-ordered...
Resok
May 5th, 2006, 05:33 PM
...as soon as it was available from Shrapnel? I know personally I have alot of faith in Illwinter and their game design vision as shown in Dominions 2. As soon as I found out about Dom3 coming out and looked over the planned feature-list, I was hooked and pre-ordered immediately. Anyone else do the same?
I know I'd much rather spend 50$ supporting an indi game company that focuses on depth of gameplay as opposed to sparkly graphics and mass appeal. Too many developers are afraid of the cost-to-return ratio on making niche market games without broad appeal. So we end up with alot of generalized game titles that are trying to appeal to far too many people and thus lack depth in their core gameplay.
Anyway, I'm rambling... my main point is to show my support for Illwinter and ask if anyone else has the same feelings. Call me a fanboi if you want but I feel quite strongly about supporting Illwinter by pre-ordering and having confidence in their next step forward in the vast and complex Dominions world.
All in all, much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/heart.gif for Illwinter and really looking forward to the release.
Resok
DominionsFan
May 5th, 2006, 06:05 PM
I did of course...but as we know, Doms3 preorder broke the old preorder record at Shrapnel, so I guess, the game will sell very good.
I have the same feelings like you btw, I always prefer gameplay over gfx and such stuff. Doms2 got awesome gameplay, and that is what matters. Some ppl here says that "Doms3 looks like an expansion pack for Doms2." This is definitely not true, there will be tons of new content, AI fixing, great modability etc.
Gandalf Parker
May 5th, 2006, 06:06 PM
I did. Thanks for the reminder since I have more I need to order also and I wanted to spread them out on the credit card. Its time for me to order another.
NTJedi
May 5th, 2006, 09:38 PM
I will be pre-ordering soon... the game will most likely be very good.
The only thing us gamers have to worry... is if some bad feature was introduced into DOM_3... such as the 'auto_surrender' seen in AOW:SM. Luckily the AOW community pulled together and convinced the developers to move this into being an option.
If one or two nations are much stronger... I see this as a good thing because it will provide more challenging SP games and new gamers would have a better chance in MP.
Gandalf Parker
May 5th, 2006, 11:04 PM
Of course one or two nations will be much stronger. Dont you remember the early days of Dom2? What we all saw later in new players, all the players went thru at the same time in early Dom2. We all, at the same time, decided that Ulm was too powerful. Then we all decided Ermor was unbeatable. Then Arcos had too much magic. It took forever for us to get thru the whole list to figure out that there was some balance. Then years more to pin down some imbalances we could actually agree on.
And Dom3 will have at LEAST 3 times as many nations?!?
Of course one will be too powerful, and then another, and then another http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
WraithLord
May 6th, 2006, 06:57 AM
I have much faith in IW and I've preorderd as soon as it was possible http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
alexti
May 6th, 2006, 07:13 PM
NTJedi said:
If one or two nations are much stronger...
I am sure there will be few nations that are much stronger. And there will be a lot of arguments in this forum about which are those nations http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Tortanick
May 7th, 2006, 12:36 PM
I preordered and I can't wait to get Biblical on someone, fire and brimstone style http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Oversway
May 8th, 2006, 11:02 AM
I preordered http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
PrinzMegaherz
May 9th, 2006, 01:03 PM
It would be nice if those who preordered (like me ;-)) would be part of an open betatest.
Gandalf Parker
May 9th, 2006, 01:24 PM
An open beta-test would happen after the beta group felt it was ready for release. It would fall between the closed beta and offering it to the public. Do you feel there is an advantage to putting off the general release for that? It would be cool but I cant really come up with a justification other than that.
Personally, I felt that Dom2 was in "public beta-test" right up until the point that Illwinter started working on Dom3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
JaydedOne
May 9th, 2006, 03:37 PM
Ordered day of. I still lurked here from time to time reading posts (my disc is scratched beyond recognition due to the move to Atlanta, meaning no more Dom2 for me) but I was clicking to order as soon as the link was announced on Blues News. A good day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Oversway
May 9th, 2006, 06:30 PM
If you felt like it, you could probably get a replacement cd from shrapnel for a small fee. I've seen other people get one, they are good about that.
DominionsFan
May 9th, 2006, 07:49 PM
Nah, open beta for Doms3 is not necessary imo. IW got his beta testers, and Im sure that they gonna do a decent job.
Also if there will be any bugs left, those can be fixed in the first patch.
Gandalf Parker
May 9th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Yeah Im sure they will release it as soon as they finish Debating the balances. With Dom2 it only took.. 1 year.. 2 years.. wait a minute, wasnt that going on last week? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Hopefully they will just get it useable and release it. Im not sure if I want any group agreeing on the balances before I get it. If thats even possible.
S.R. Krol
May 9th, 2006, 09:39 PM
A little OT, but...
Hey, another Atlantan? We're always looking for more board wargamers to join our group (plays in East Cobb/Roswell), and soon our RPG group (which comprises different folks, probably will end up playing in Canton) will be starting up a C&C campaign.
I know I've seen other people mention they're now in Atlanta so anyone looking for some tabletop gaming please feel free to drop me a line.
Back to our regularly scheduled forum now!
-Scott
skrol@shrapnelgames.com
quantum_mechani
May 9th, 2006, 10:41 PM
Gandalf Parker said:
Im not sure if I want any group agreeing on the balances before I get it.
Um, surely that's better than a group disagreeing on the balance? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
PrinzMegaherz
May 10th, 2006, 02:25 AM
DominionsFAN said:
Nah, open beta for Doms3 is not necessary imo. IW got his beta testers, and Im sure that they gonna do a decent job.
Also if there will be any bugs left, those can be fixed in the first patch.
Open beta tests are not about finding bugs (well, maybe a bit), they are about me playing the game as early as possible http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
DominionsFan
May 10th, 2006, 06:42 AM
PrinzMegaherz said:
DominionsFAN said:
Nah, open beta for Doms3 is not necessary imo. IW got his beta testers, and Im sure that they gonna do a decent job.
Also if there will be any bugs left, those can be fixed in the first patch.
Open beta tests are not about finding bugs (well, maybe a bit), they are about me playing the game as early as possible http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Hehe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Tortanick
May 10th, 2006, 12:51 PM
I agree "open beta test" means something like here is the game, bugs and all. By accepting it you take all risks for a destroyed system. See you when the real game is done.
GIMME GIMME GIMME
Caduceus
May 10th, 2006, 03:30 PM
I'm in, just pre-ordered.
ioticus
May 10th, 2006, 04:51 PM
I pre-ordered on day 1.
Horst F. JENS
May 17th, 2006, 01:55 PM
also pre-ordered. First time ever.
NTJedi
May 17th, 2006, 03:05 PM
I pre-ordered mine earlier this week.
So I guess we'll be getting our copies sometime in June, but if Illwinter needs more time to add more content or fix bugs or add a new feature that's totally fine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Caduceus
May 17th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Yes, please don't release a broken product. We've been through that with other products released on the mass-market recently.
WraithLord
May 17th, 2006, 05:21 PM
NTJedi said:
I pre-ordered mine earlier this week.
So I guess we'll be getting our copies sometime in June, but if Illwinter needs more time to add more content or fix bugs or add a new feature that's totally fine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Dom-III is scheduled to start shipping at July/August.
NTJedi
May 17th, 2006, 09:36 PM
WraithLord said:
Dom-III is scheduled to start shipping at July/August.
That's good to know!
Argitoth
May 17th, 2006, 11:57 PM
yet we have to pay more by May 20. That's really gay.
NICE WORK! damn shrapnel. Being over $50 is really pushing it. Not even the highest budget games goes over that, but they know us fans will pay it. That really pisses me off. F*** you shrapnel.
Endoperez
May 18th, 2006, 12:48 AM
Argitoth said:
yet we have to pay more by May 20. That's really gay.
NICE WORK! damn shrapnel. Being over $50 is really pushing it. Not even the highest budget games goes over that, but they know us fans will pay it. That really pisses me off. F*** you shrapnel.
Shrapnel Games stays in business, and continues selling games. They have to keep high prices. Have you read their blogs?
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/blog/2005/02/24/why-traditional-retail-and-niche-games-dont-work/
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/blog/2005/03/04/fallout-why-traditional-retail-and-niche-games-dont-work/
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/blog/2005/03/07/niche-games-and-niche-retail/
Those are more about games being sold on the shops than games sold on the Gamer's Front (or was it Gamers' Front?), but they still points out some interesting things.
Argitoth
May 18th, 2006, 03:05 AM
Ok, I read all 3 to a pretty good extent, and I understand that niche games are hard to sell... so you're saying Dominions III is hard to sell so they had to push the price over the common limit? That's not very justifiable if the pre-orders are breaking its record, unless they are trying to make up for lack of sales elsewhere... but the blogs never said anything about that.
Hey, all I know is that I wouldn't even be complaining if they gave us mnore time to pre-order at a lesser price. "Pre-order for a reduced price" they say... yet in a few days it will just say "pre-order now!"
Nerfix
May 18th, 2006, 03:41 AM
The price diffrence between pre-ordered and ordered game is quite trivial.
DominionsFan
May 18th, 2006, 06:55 AM
Argitoth said:
yet we have to pay more by May 20. That's really gay.
NICE WORK! damn shrapnel. Being over $50 is really pushing it. Not even the highest budget games goes over that, but they know us fans will pay it. That really pisses me off. F*** you shrapnel.
Well I was a bit surprised about the game's price [around 50 euros], but your last sentence was harsh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif
WraithLord
May 18th, 2006, 09:15 AM
IMO Shrapnel are publishing quality games, for me the attached price tags are well worth it.
My opinion again - Trashy games you can find by the droves and they cost 30-40$ for worth of 0$.
Gandalf Parker
May 18th, 2006, 10:14 AM
It will make it hard to recommend, but wont matter as far as my ordering it.
But on the other hand I have often spent that much on games that had obviously more production and marketing, but I ended up with far less replayability
Cainehill
May 18th, 2006, 10:39 AM
Nerfix said:
The price diffrence between pre-ordered and ordered game is quite trivial.
Makes it easy for me to not pre-order : not that I won't undoubtedly get the game, but I don't see the need to put down $47.50 for something that may ship in July/August, or may not ship until later.
Nerfix
May 18th, 2006, 11:22 AM
Cainehill said:
Nerfix said:
The price diffrence between pre-ordered and ordered game is quite trivial.
Makes it easy for me to not pre-order : not that I won't undoubtedly get the game, but I don't see the need to put down $47.50 for something that may ship in July/August, or may not ship until later.
My lack of way to pay to game makes it easy for me not to preorder it. /threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif
Argitoth
May 18th, 2006, 11:43 AM
WraithLord said:
IMO Shrapnel are publishing quality games, for me the attached price tags are well worth it.
My opinion again - Trashy games you can find by the droves and they cost 30-40$ for worth of 0$.
Nay man, you speak like a fanboy. Open your eyes, EA publishes some very fun games. So they are... EA... Being a fanboy is never a good thing. Accept the big as well as the small. Battlefield 2142 looks great and so does Enemy Territory Quake Wars by id, just to name a few. Oblivion, maybe Spore (I'm skeptical with that one) I've been playing BF2 for a while and it was quite fun. Dominions III in terms of "fun-ness" will be right up there, but no game is perfect.
Endoperez
May 18th, 2006, 12:25 PM
Argitoth said:
Nay man, you speak like a fanboy. Open your eyes, EA publishes some very fun games. So they are... EA... Being a fanboy is never a good thing. Accept the big as well as the small. Battlefield 2142 looks great and so does Enemy Territory Quake Wars by id, just to name a few. Oblivion, maybe Spore (I'm skeptical with that one) I've been playing BF2 for a while and it was quite fun. Dominions III in terms of "fun-ness" will be right up there, but no game is perfect.
I'm probably fanboy too (of both Shrapnel Games and Illwinter). Still, I'd like to say this:
Dominions has better money/enjoyment ratio, if you factor in the playing time, even neglecting the early "how am I supposed to do anything" period. If someone got into the game, it lasted more than "a while".
Gandalf Parker
May 18th, 2006, 01:50 PM
Havent looked at Battlefield 2142.
Quake Wars looks like a temporary enjoyment.
Oblivion is a possible but Im still trying to figure out if it has the long-term play that Daggerfall did or another disappointment like Morrowind was.
Now SEV might be a contender for long-life on my computer but we will have to see about that.
NTJedi
May 18th, 2006, 03:28 PM
I see Dominions_3 as definitely worth it's value... even the AI has been significantly improved having 3 different settings:
Defensive, Standard, Aggressive.
(and maybe the option for the selection to be randomly chosen)
Maps have tripled in size, new random map generator, tons of new nations, items, and spells. Graphics have also been slightly improved. The game will also have greater modding capabilities.
I would recommend buying the game now and saving $7.oo.
JaydedOne
May 18th, 2006, 04:27 PM
*shrug* I've worked in the gaming industry, albeit pen and paper RPGs, and the one thing I truly love about the industry across all spectrums is the creativity and resilience of the small press.
Whenever I see an outstanding computer/board/pen-and-paper RPG game from a small-time developer, I try to pick it up. Yes, the EA's and Wizards of the Coast's of the world make some fantastic products -- and I support them too. But I guess rooting for the underdog, particularly the one who loves his craft and pursues it with all his spare time energy, is just that much more enjoyable. What I lose in the graphical flash of the bigger companies, I get back in terms of my satisfaction in a broader marketplace and a certain "labor of love" quality within these games that makes them unique.
So, yeah. The price tag really doesn't phase me, even though I think it's about as high as a game of this sort should ever go in the current market.
Argitoth
May 18th, 2006, 04:51 PM
JaydedOne said:
The price tag really doesn't phase me, even though I think it's about as high as a game of this sort should ever go in the current market.
Thank you.
Gandalf Parker said:
Havent looked at Battlefield 2142.
Quake Wars looks like a temporary enjoyment.
Naa, these games can only be appreciated fully if you are in a clan with teamspeak and play everyday as a team with the occasional clan VS clan competitions. This is where the value is and it will not be worth as much as Dominions III if you do not play these games to their fullest ability. You, Gandalf Parker, do not have time to commit to a clan and so I understand if you never care for these games.
DominionsFan
May 18th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Argitoth you also frgot that Gandalf is 50 years old. How could he be in an FPS gaming clan? At least 90% of those players are 16-24 years old.
Back to the topic again.. The game's "high" price is only bad because of 1 thing. It might scare away customers, in fact I am pretty sure that xy number of people just wont buy it, because Doms 3. gonna cost more then a high end product with directx 10. gfx. Mostly the hardcore Doms 3. fans will buy the game probably. The question is, what is better for Shrapnel? 1. Sell less copies for a higher price, or 2. sell more copies for a lower price. Their choice were option #1. Personally I dont really care about the price. I would order it for 100 euros even...but it is me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
Gandalf Parker
May 18th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Gandalf is also retired, retired military in fact, and he gets to do nothing but play games all day. The clans I am part of tend to kick ***. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Im just rarely interested in PvP play, even with dominions I rarely MP'd.
But as to the price, I have to admit that its too high for me to recommend the game. Even with Dominions2 I never recommended the game. I always STRONGLY recommended the demo. I was willing to swear to people that IF they could get thru the demo THEN the game would be long time worth their purchase. But until I see how Dom3 has improved its learning curve for new people, and how good the demo is, Im afraid Im being careful in "sales pitches" in the newsgroups.
It doesnt matter anyway.
We all know that hooked is hooked either way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
ioticus
May 18th, 2006, 06:16 PM
I'd buy the game at $1,000 without batting an eyelash. Hell, I'd pay $10,000 for it. I would think twice at $100,000 however. I guess every man has his price.
Argitoth
May 19th, 2006, 01:33 AM
ioticus, if you seriously believe that, you... well everyone can come up with their own words.
BTW Gandalf, my clan beats your clan any day. [760]Clan, man. 760clan.com
beats yours. any day. of any week. of any month, on any planet in this solar system except pluto and jupiter. we... uhh... we just don't like pluto and jupiter much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif
PrinzMegaherz
May 19th, 2006, 03:13 AM
Yeah, and my daddy is stronger than yours http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Anyway, Me and my roommate have both bought Dom 2, but I don't think he will buy Dom 3 that looks more like an update than a completely new game for so much money. I'll do it because I'm crazy, but this price tag will hurt the sales up to a degree where the increased cost won't compensate for the decrease in sold copies
Argitoth said:
ioticus, if you seriously believe that, you... well everyone can come up with their own words.
BTW Gandalf, my clan beats your clan any day. [760]Clan, man. 760clan.com
beats yours. any day. of any week. of any month, on any planet in this solar system except pluto and jupiter. we... uhh... we just don't like pluto and jupiter much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif
Argitoth
May 19th, 2006, 04:54 AM
Just because it looks the same doesn't mean the game won't be revolutionary to its predecessor.
DominionsFan
May 19th, 2006, 06:19 AM
Argitoth said:
ioticus, if you seriously believe that, you... well everyone can come up with their own words.
BTW Gandalf, my clan beats your clan any day. [760]Clan, man. 760clan.com
beats yours. any day. of any week. of any month, on any planet in this solar system except pluto and jupiter. we... uhh... we just don't like pluto and jupiter much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif
You ever heard of the game Call of Duty? I was in one of the best clans in Europe, we were www.clanbase.com (http://www.clanbase.com) ladder leaders for 6 weeks, also we were second placed in the Eurocup, and won many national awards. Now I am playing Call of Duty 2., but I am not that active atm, because of school exams. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Gandalf Parker
May 19th, 2006, 09:28 AM
The only clans I put time in on are for MMOs such as Star Wars Galaxy, or City of Heroes, or Ultima Online. Places where there is more to go with clan support than just killing other clans. Like most ex-military I am willing to provide my expertise to defend a clan but I have no desire to live it full time online.
Argitoth
May 19th, 2006, 11:03 AM
Gandalf Parker, are you dismissing FPSs as worthless games?
NTJedi
May 19th, 2006, 01:50 PM
Argitoth said:
ioticus, if you seriously believe that, you... well everyone can come up with their own words.
Money is relative depending on how much someone has available. Ioticus could be some multi-millionaire where $1000.oo is the same percentage of money as someone else who spends $25.00 at the movies with a date. Personally I wouldn't go beyond $70.oo... someone else mentioned spending as much as $100.oo. Each gamer interested in the Dominions_3 has a different percentage they are willing to spend. Personally I feel the game is overpriced by $10.oo in the current market.
Endoperez
May 19th, 2006, 02:56 PM
I'm not sure how much I'd pay for the game. Much, maybe up to, say, 100€, I think. Maybe more.
However, I won't mind paying whatever Shrapnel asks for, because the money goes for more games. Illwinter isn't getting rich, and neither is Shrapnel Games. If I thought they asked for money just because they could, I'd be much more reserved about spending my money on their products. Although that is only Dominions for me...
Gandalf Parker
May 19th, 2006, 03:33 PM
FPS games arent worthless. I enjoy some. IF they have alot of setup such as a mechwarrior or carwarrior game. Or anything where stealth and logical movement such as military use is a benefit over just running in with the fastest trigger finger.
On the pricing, I dont think we can gauge overprising yet. There are many games priced that high and I dont think we have all seen enough to price it compared to the market. Also we would have to gauge it against the average, not against the best available at certain prices.
In fact, come to think of it, personally I think there are a ton of games out priced as high as Dom3 that I consider be below Dom2.
Argitoth
May 19th, 2006, 07:01 PM
ok, but i never see any game priced over $50 so I have no idea what you're talking about. Some games used to be over $50 but that was like 4 freaking years ago. By your description of a "non-worthless FPS" I don't see why you don't like Battlefield 2. One time me and a clan member made our way from karkand to the US base using some good teamwork.
Gandalf Parker
May 19th, 2006, 07:06 PM
Check back. I said I hadnt looked at Battlefield.
And I thought you mentioned a MMO (monthly charge? That could get pricey quick enough).
And also Oblivion? I did a check and that lists at 59.99
NTJedi
May 19th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Argitoth said:
ok, but i never see any game priced over $50 so I have no idea what you're talking about. Some games used to be over $50 but that was like 4 freaking years ago. By your description of a "non-worthless FPS" I don't see why you don't like Battlefield 2. One time me and a clan member made our way from karkand to the US base using some good teamwork.
What's really surprising are the MMO games... where people pay a monthly fee ranging from $9.99 to as much as $29.99. This is in addition to purchasing the game.
Personally computer gaming would have to provide me a virtual reality where the RPG experience would actually provide good exercise before I would pay a monthly fee totally around $250 a year.
Gandalf Parker
May 19th, 2006, 10:38 PM
Actually I tend to get in on most MMO's. The cost isnt a problem for me. But the only ones Ive kept kept tend to be free ones which might say something. One mud (which I host), Diable II (if you think of it as a MMO), and Ultima Online which I got disgusted with until I discovered the free servers which do it much better. SWG was ok for awhile, and CoH. I might go back to those sometime.
That reminds me.. I need to cancel DnD online.
DominionsFan
May 20th, 2006, 06:29 AM
Gandalf Parker said:
Actually I tend to get in on most MMO's. The cost isnt a problem for me. But the only ones Ive kept kept tend to be free ones which might say something. One mud (which I host), Diable II (if you think of it as a MMO), and Ultima Online which I got disgusted with until I discovered the free servers which do it much better. SWG was ok for awhile, and CoH. I might go back to those sometime.
That reminds me.. I need to cancel DnD online.
Gandalf, have you ever tried WoW? I was playing it for like 4-5 months. It was awesome firstly..but after 4 months I was full with l60 tier 2 epics, and I couldnt do anything really, just wait for the next new instance. So WoW is pretty boring after a period. I still login sometime, but only just to talk with my buddies there. WoW's greatest power is the server's community, you can make lot of online friends, and the game sucks you in, regardless that its really boring, when you got all the best items in the game..
Alneyan
May 20th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Gandalf Parker said:
[...] Ultima Online which I got disgusted with until I discovered the free servers which do it much better.
That's all too true. I know the UO shards still have my heart, somewhere... All I need is a nice shard (I'm trying real hard to avoid that), and I'll probably go back to the game. Even Linux won't offer enough protection, as there are some clients running natively here, I think. One of the French shards I'm most interested in seems to be slowly edging towards its public opening now... Ha, the temptation. But I digress.
I need to cancel DnD online.
How was that one? I know I didn't hold my breath for it, but it does come from Turbine. Asheron's Call has always struck me as being particularly interesting, but I never got the chance to play the game.
DominionsFan
May 20th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Guys if you want to play a good mmorpg, wait for 1. Warhammer Online, 2. Age of Conan, 3. Vanguard ... but skip WoW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Gandalf Parker
May 20th, 2006, 05:35 PM
I play (and admin some) on Shazzy's Shard. A husband and wife team (he admins and she is the programmer). Its nice and adult with almost no support for PvP at all. The numbers dropped due to a gap while they moved but usually its just enough players to keep an economy going and get up groups to do some champions, but not so many that you cant have a house in the wilderness and have it actually BE wilderness instead of looking like some suburb. Oh yeah, and like most games I like, I host the site for free www.ShazzyShard.org (http://www.ShazzyShard.org)
DnD-O was OK. It was sone well enough but basically the same complaint as I had with City of Heroes. Lots of work put into the game but then they dropped it on the quests. There is only so many times I can stand doing the same thing over and over. If they had put less work into the graphics and effects, and more into quests Id be happier. Like Diablo II which is quick to get into, lets me run other things at the same time to flip back and forth, and is free to play.. then I pop it up sometimes for a change the way I do D-II
DominionsFan
June 7th, 2006, 08:39 PM
Heh, now my brother pre-ordered Doms 3. today. This is like a miracle, he was like "no i wont order it until I see the demo"..but then again he realized that me + our little Doms community here [local friends] gonna buy Doms 3. and play that only via TCP/IP. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
PS. Gandalf how come that you are still playing with UO? I never played it, but my oldest brother did...he says that the game is like 10 years old. Is it free to play now, or you still gotta pay for it? I played with many mmorpgs [got a rank 14 orc warrior in wow for example, but I stopped playing with it, also I was playing with EQ and Shadowbane]..but I never had a chance to try out UO.
Gandalf Parker
June 7th, 2006, 09:30 PM
I really liked the completness of the UO world. The economy, the quests, the variety you could have in day-to-day living. But the official servers filled up with griefers, and just plain FILLED UP. The "wilderness" where you could build a house become crowded suburbs and you were fighting deep wilderness type monsters in tight alleys between houses packed as tight as they could get.
But like many games, its saved by user efforts. There are now over 300 player run servers. All different styles. Some majorly PvP, some cranked up in monster strength, some so creatively rewritten as to be a completely new world.
The one Im on is run by a husband and wife team, about 30 people at a time on it. Enough for some real economy, and some team work. But not so many that you cant find a spot in the wilderness to build and have no neighbors if you want.
As MMO's go its a comfortable virtual retirement for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Gandalf Parker
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Hey my wife loves me playing Ultima Online.
I get to pack-rat, try my hand at making things, visit other peoples
junk sales, kill & skin animals... all the things she hates me doing in
our garage.
NakedLunch
June 7th, 2006, 09:37 PM
Furcadia is (http://www.furcadia.com) where it's at http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif
baby_arm
June 7th, 2006, 09:43 PM
I hear it's fun for the whole family. Avoid that John Matrix guy, though.
DominionsFan
June 8th, 2006, 06:20 AM
Oh I see Gandalf, I just visited some old UO sites, the game looks fun indeed. I guess UO must be the mother of all MMORPGs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Hm I never heard about Furcadia, Im gonna check it out.
Nerfix
June 8th, 2006, 09:53 AM
baby_arm said:
I hear it's fun for the whole family.
Even for the litter? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
baby_arm
June 8th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Even for the litter?
I would never inflict the horror of Furcadia on poor, innocent puppies.
Caduceus
June 8th, 2006, 11:28 PM
DominionsFAN said:
I guess UO must be the mother of all MMORPGs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Oh where has the time gone?!?! I must be getting REALLY old...
DominionsFan
June 10th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Hm....this Furcadia looks very weird to me. What is this game about exactly? I downloaded the necessary files, started the game, and I've found myself on a screen, where I could choose that what animal to play with. Is this game for very young people? It looks like that at least, however I might be wrong, because I wasnt looking at it more, I quitted after the first screen, it was a bit silly to play with a rabbit who walks on 2 feet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
NakedLunch
June 10th, 2006, 06:26 PM
To get to the real fun in Furcadia, you have to click the FurN button under the "B" tab in your interface.
DominionsFan
June 10th, 2006, 06:36 PM
NakedLunch said:
To get to the real fun in Furcadia, you have to click the FurN button under the "B" tab in your interface.
I will explore the game a bit more of course, I never uninstall anything after 5 mins of playtime. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Btw Naked, take a look at your private messages please, when you gonna have some freetime for it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
NakedLunch
June 10th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Btw Naked, take a look at your private messages please, when you gonna have some freetime for it.
Eh? Just checked and there's nothing new in there. I've replied to everything, I think.
DominionsFan
June 10th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Hm Ive sent a message to you about Crown of Glory.
Endoperez
June 11th, 2006, 02:30 AM
DominionsFAN said:
it was a bit silly to play with a rabbit who walks on 2 feet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
What about a commando killer rabbit who hunts down his enemies with vengeanve? That game is called Lugaru. It's strange, but also very good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
NakedLunch
June 11th, 2006, 11:16 AM
Hm Ive sent a message to you about Crown of Glory.
Oh yeah, I got that. Thanks.
DominionsFan
June 11th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Endoperez said:
DominionsFAN said:
it was a bit silly to play with a rabbit who walks on 2 feet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
What about a commando killer rabbit who hunts down his enemies with vengeanve? That game is called Lugaru. It's strange, but also very good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Hehe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif
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