Dominions 3 Page at Illwinter!

[Caduceus]

A little underwhelming (http://www.illwinter.com/dom3/index.html) .

[SafeKeeper]

Truly. I guess they're focusing on Dom3's development?

[Nerfix]

Awww, that's cute. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Gandalf Parker]

You know what they say..
This is Internet. You can find anything. If you do a search and dont find it, or dont like it, then you found a need. Fill it! This is Internet

[WraithLord]

Some new screenies might be nice though and not that hard to do http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[SafeKeeper]

If I was the Illwinter duo, I'd hire someone to re-make the whole site from scratch. With some nice graphics, formatting and so on. Only downside is that might lead to even more players, so it might be a bad idea;).

[Nerfix]

SafeKeeper said:
If I was the Illwinter duo, I'd hire someone to re-make the whole site from scratch.



Me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

<lobbying off>

[Gandalf Parker]

Why would a 2-man company want to hire someone to do their webpages? Especially since Shrapnel does most of the PR work. In fact, I dont think any developers personal pages are much better.

[DominionsFan]

Hehe. I think that the devs never cared about the look of the Iw site. I know the IW site for years now, but its the same still. If its good for the devs, its good for me, I wont complain. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

PS. It would take like 2-5 hours for a professional website builder to make a decent site. [html/php/flash]
Maybe a bit more, if we talk about "high tech" sites.

[BigJMoney]

It's times like these where I'm tempted to boldly jump into web design with both feet, creating a dazzling portfolio out of projects I would do for indie companies for only nominal cost. Then, I realize that I'm lazy.

=$=

[RonD]

Illwinter said:
Dominions 3 is currently in development and will be go gold very soon, late August or so



Sheesh. The same people who try to read the tea leaves in incremental version numbers see updated news from the devs about how close they are to gold, and all they can do is complain that the web page bearing the news is spartan?

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

[Gandalf Parker]

So far we are all being pretty cool but Ive come close to mentioning that I HAVE seen some of my favorite wait-for projects get blown completely away by impatient and rude fans. Ive known developers who completely dropped the project.

Like I said, so far as are all being pretty cool about it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Caduceus]

We haven't gotten a group together to fly to Finland yet... But its an idea... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Reverend Zombie]

Gandalf Parker said:
Ive known developers who completely dropped the project.




That's interesting; anything we'd have heard of?

[PashaDawg]

Caduceus said:
We haven't gotten a group together to fly to Finland yet... But its an idea... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif



Oops! I think you mean Sweden. The Finns are scary-too-good at this game, but the game hails from Sweden. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Gandalf Parker]

Reverend Zombie said:

Gandalf Parker said:
Ive known developers who completely dropped the project.




That's interesting; anything we'd have heard of?



Probably not. The only sequel I remember was the dropping of a Shadowdale version 4 mmorpg. And then even the support for version 3.5 was dropped. As far as I know none of the programmers ever returned to the project.

[Caduceus]

[b]PashaDawg said:
Oops! I think you mean Sweden. The Finns are scary-too-good at this game, but the game hails from Sweden. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



My fault. Sweden.

[Nerfix]

PashaDawg said:
The Finns are scary-too-good at this game

It's the Kalevala genes. Heroic epics are our speciality.

[DominionsFan]

Nerfix said:

PashaDawg said:
The Finns are scary-too-good at this game

It's the Kalevala genes. Heroic epics are our speciality.



Kalevala was fun to read. I dont know why, but our literature teacher forced us to read Kalevala.

[Nerfix]

DominionsFAN said:Kalevala was fun to read. I dont know why, but our literature teacher forced us to read Kalevala.

Well, it's nice you enjoyed it but I have no idea your teacher forced you to read it.

[NTJedi]

Nerfix said:

DominionsFAN said:Kalevala was fun to read. I dont know why, but our literature teacher forced us to read Kalevala.

Well, it's nice you enjoyed it but I have no idea your teacher forced you to read it.



Long ago in highschool some stupid teacher made our class watch his favorite old movie(black-n-white) and then write a report about the movie. The Waterfront - I think

The movie was just okay... dull at times... but the teacher was stupid.

[ceremony]

NTJedi said:
Long ago in highschool some stupid teacher made our class watch his favorite old movie(black-n-white) and then write a report about the movie. The Waterfront - I think

The movie was just okay... dull at times... but the teacher was stupid.


On the Waterfront is considered one of the classic American films of all time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

TIME magazine 100 best films (http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies/0,23220,on_the_waterfront,00.html)

[Neophyte]

ceremony said:

NTJedi said:
Long ago in highschool some stupid teacher made our class watch his favorite old movie(black-n-white) and then write a report about the movie. The Waterfront - I think

The movie was just okay... dull at times... but the teacher was stupid.


On the Waterfront is considered one of the classic American films of all time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

TIME magazine 100 best films (http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies/0,23220,on_the_waterfront,00.html)



I thought that Deliverence was the classic American film, hehe.

Back on topic, isn't Illwinter paying Shrapnel to have a pretty website? I've actually had quite a few problems these past few weeks at work trying to find supplier contacts because companies that don't even sell to the public directly had websites with more pretty than useful bits. I even broke down and called corporate HQ for a supplier to ask for the right contact number once.

[NTJedi]

ceremony said:
On the Waterfront is considered one of the classic American films of all time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

TIME magazine 100 best films (http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies/0,23220,on_the_waterfront,00.html)



First that list came from only two movie critics... not all of america. Second 75% of their "100 best of all time movies" listed were made before 1980. So when you say it's considered one of the classic films of all time... you found two people to agree with that.
Movie magazine critics hold as much value as Game magazine critics... they are just one persons view.

[ceremony]

That article was only cited as a piece of evidence. In general, that is what it is considered. That understanding comes from a general knowledge of film. You could find many more sources which support this view. It does not mean that the whole thing is based on one article.

Brothers K is considered Doestoevskii's best novel. I could cite a source for that, but that would not mean that is the only person who thinks so. But in a general understanding of literature, that is the prevailing view.

In any case, it is not important.

[NTJedi]

ceremony said:
That article was only cited as a piece of evidence. In general, that is what it is considered. That understanding comes from a general knowledge of film. You could find many more sources which support this view. It does not mean that the whole thing is based on one article.




It was a piece of evidence, but again it's only the view of two people making it weak evidence at best. Other sources can be found to support the opinion of those two people, but I could easily find a greater number of sources which have a different top-100 list. Point being I'm sure during the mid-80s this was an american classic, but in this century of america it's no longer in the top 100 classics for the majority of america.

[Cainehill]

Yeah - instead now, "Dumb and Dumberer", "Hostel", and "Freddie Got Fingered" are considered classics. *snicker*

More seriously - some movies and books were/are considered classics but really have to be taken in terms of the social context when they were made. Looking at them decades later, they lack the impact they once had - for example, Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye" was considered shocking and scandalous when published; similarly, "To Kill a Mockingbird" was amazing because at the time, the concepts in the book were unheard of (a well-to-do white lawyer defending a poor black accused of rape, just because it was the right thing to do? Inconceivable!!!).

That said, some of those classics hold up better over time than others, both movies and books. Look at old SF movies : many of them wind up seeming dated, because their utopian or distopian vision of the future is ridiculous now that our present day is that movie's future. Or, their special effects seem lame compared to today's CGI wizardry. Still - Ray Harryhausen's stop motion dinosaurs and monsters were amazing in their day. And then there are the SF classics that still hold up over time, "BladeRunner" being a perfect example, where "Star Wars" can now be viewed as a simplistic western in outer space.

[NTJedi]

Cainehill said:

Yeah - instead now, "Dumb and Dumberer", "Hostel", and "Freddie Got Fingered" are considered classics. *snicker*



Well I wouldn't consider those classics... but that's just my one opinion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Endoperez]

Psst! Illwinter! It's gone gold! You can update the page!

P.S.
It was October the 2nd in the case you forgot.

[Kristoffer O]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[NTJedi]

small update... Dominions 3 page at Illwinter has not changed.
Perhaps they should have one of the fans of Dominions_3 update the page for the price of a copy or two of Dominions_3?? I'm sure some fans would even do the task for free.