View Full Version : Gilders
blazejos
August 24th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I have a propostion of redone gilders thema in game
First a forgoten rusian gilder Antonov A-7
In green camo , In typical rusian brown-green camo without top wings stars , In winter camo
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8205/an7zielonytk6.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9081/an7camobm4.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7258/an7winterjg1.png (http://imageshack.us)
Propositioned lbm's graphic files
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/658/pm31009nl5.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3381/pm31029mb2.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7421/pm31030ft4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Some facts about this gilder
- he can take 8 soliders + 1 pilot
- Approx 400 of this gilder were build during war
- First were build in 1941
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 07:38 AM
Gribowski G-29 (know too as G-11)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1898/g11qu3.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1082/g11winteruw4.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2870/g11camoyb6.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/690/pm31074we5.png (http://imageshack.us)
-First series gilders were bild in 1942
- was in units to 1948
- can take 11 soliders + 1 pilot
- About 500/600 were build
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 08:02 AM
Antonov A-40 KT [Kryliatyj tank] (flying T-60 tank)
A-40 in green and winter camo
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1993/a40ktfy4.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/217/a40ktzimowyrg6.png (http://imageshack.us)
A special icons gilder after landing and disengage of T-60
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/87/a40ktlandingjc8.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2991/a40ktzimowylandingpd2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Propositioned lbm
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8527/pm31031ho4.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4624/pm31045vg0.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Only one this flying tank were build in 1942 was tested but rusians has no good tug aircraft the bigest TB-3 was too weak. As tank were used T-60 the crew was as normal tank.
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 08:26 AM
Polikarpov BDP [Bojewoj Desantnyj Planier]
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8630/bdpzielonypt0.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9533/bdpzimowyvz5.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1197/bdpcamorf2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Propositioned lbm
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7449/pm31032ar0.png (http://imageshack.us)
Rusian medium gilder first prototype build in 1941
- Mass production started in 1942 only about 20/30 were build
- 2 pilots was a crew
- can take 15 solider
- In gilder was mounted armour plates for protecting MG places
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 08:36 AM
Moskalev SAM-23
Propositioned lbm
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5388/pm31033ij0.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5363/73370158ju8.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5254/90892472ji0.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4003/36720452hm7.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/999/52242686ye3.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Was build in small series app. 20
- has rear cargo doors
- can take 16 soliders or Jeep/Gaz vehicle
- crew was 2 pilots
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 08:43 AM
Kolesnikow & Tsybin KTs-20
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5673/ts20fe5.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/184/ts20winteral2.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5523/ts20camonf1.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4190/pm31034tr6.png (http://imageshack.us)
- production starts in 1942
- Can take 24 soliders
- crew was 2 pilots
- was build in small series
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 09:00 AM
GN-4
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8821/pm31008hk6.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Was first gilder in the style know from WW2
- can take 1 pilot + 5 soliders
- only one was build in 1934
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 09:06 AM
G-63
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2749/pm31012xp1.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9127/g63hr6.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3104/g63zimowyln9.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3052/g63camooq2.png (http://imageshack.us)
-Was first world military gilder
- only one was build
- can take 16 soliders + 1 pilot soliders were placed inside big wings in small cabins like a bombs.
- was build in 1932
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 09:26 AM
<font color="red"> BRITISH GILDERS </font>
Hotspur Mk.I , Mk.II and Twin Hotspur
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8364/pm31017vy0.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6484/pm31018ea0.png (http://imageshack.us)
Mk.I
- 18 build in october 1940
- was adopted to fly over a traget in this point soliders was parachute and gilder without crew crash on ground
- can take 1 pilot and 7 soliders
Mk.II
- looks like mk.I but was adopted for normal gilder tactics landing with soliders near the target
- 997 were build
- mass production started in 1941
Twin Hotspur
- only prototype build
- that was two hulls of hotspur linked one wing
- crew was 2 pilots and 14 soliders
- build in 1942
Link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Aircraft_Hotspur
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 09:53 AM
Horsa Mk.I , Mk.II
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2020/pm31035jr4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Well know british gilder
can take 25 soliders or 75mm M3A1 haubitze with amo and crew or two jeeps with small ammo trailers. In version Mk.II can take more cargo or 28 solider
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Hamilcar
next british well know heavy gilder
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1833/pm31036fs7.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3516/pm31037ee1.png (http://imageshack.us)
-can take 40 soliders , two universal cariers , tank Tetrarch Mk.IV or Locust , 16 pounder or 25 pounder guns with prime mover or a small dozer D-4
blazejos
August 25th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Slingsby Hengist
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2784/pm31019my1.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Build only 18 gilders
- Production starts in 1943
- crew was 2 pilots and 15 soliders
blazejos
August 26th, 2006, 05:13 AM
<font color="red"> AMERICAN GILDERS </font>
Waco CG-3A
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4688/pm31020iz8.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7253/pm31021xj9.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Start of mass production in may 1942
- 100 gilders was build
- take 2 pilots + 7 soliders
blazejos
August 26th, 2006, 05:47 AM
Waco CG-4A "Haig" know by british as Waco Hadrian
The first of well know american gilders
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/50/pm31039gk5.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8048/pm31040np4.png (http://imageshack.us)
- serial production starts in Juni 1942
- 13909 were build
- to in british service see a pictures
- can take 13 soliders + 2 pilots
- instead soliders can take 75mm howitzer M3A1 with crew and ammo or Jeep
- last series has a special hard nose
blazejos
August 26th, 2006, 05:59 AM
Waco CG-15A
Improved version of sucesfull CG-13A
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2627/pm31041tr0.png (http://imageshack.us)
- serial production starts in early 1944
- was smaller than previous gilder and can take more cargo 15 soliders
-427 were build
blazejos
August 26th, 2006, 06:10 AM
Waco CG-13A
American hevy gilder
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1476/pm31022ky9.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8189/pm31042lr4.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Can take 40 soliders or jeep with 105 M2 haubitze or 1.5 ton truck + 2 pilots
- 132 were build
- first were build in late 1943
blazejos
August 26th, 2006, 06:19 AM
Laister-Kauffman CG-10A Trojan Horse
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6888/pm31043yk2.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Production start in early 1945
- only 6 build from planed 1000 because were prepare for japan islands invasion
- can take 2.5 ton truck or two 105mm howitzers or one 155mm howitzer or 105mm and jeep or 40 soliders
blazejos
August 26th, 2006, 06:42 AM
St. Louis XCG-5
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4566/pm31044vi7.png (http://imageshack.us)
- build only one prototype in 1942
- can take 2 pilots + 7 soliders
PatG
August 26th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Nice work on the gliders Blazejos. Although not historical, it would be an impressive sight to see a company of A-40 KTs flying across the board!
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 11:30 AM
Bowlus XCG-7
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9871/xcg7xh9.png (http://imageshack.us)
- only prototype build in 1942
- take 2 pilots and 7 soliders
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 11:36 AM
Bowlus XCG-8
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7714/pm31046kc8.png (http://imageshack.us)
was a bigest version of previous gilder build only one prototype i 1943. This gilder was lost in storm during test in the same year
- can tak 2 pilots and 13 solider
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Chase Aircraft XCG-14
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8177/xcg14firstversionvm0.png (http://imageshack.us)
- only one prototype build in 1944
- take 2 pilots and 15 soliders
Chase Aircraft XCG-14A
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9320/xcg14gu6.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Too only prototype build use the same wings like previous version but have new hull can take 2 pilots + 24 soliders or jeep
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 11:54 AM
General Airborne Transpor Co. XCG-16
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3771/xcg16ua4.png (http://imageshack.us)
-only two prototypes build in 1943
- take 2 pilots + 42 soliders or two haubitze 105mm or only one but with tractor and gun crew
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 12:05 PM
Douglas XCG-17
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7375/xcg17zi8.png (http://imageshack.us)
That was Dacota without engines made for supply transport to China in place of engines was a fuel tanks. Was to projected for special misions in Birma. But when he was ready the situation in Birma was good for allies and gilder wasn't necessary. Prototype only build in 1944
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Bristol Areonautic Co. XLRQ-1
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7384/xlrqhh3.png (http://imageshack.us)
Special made for US Navy. Prototype was build in 1943 take 2 pilots and 10 solider and can land on water was a flaing boat.
Two gilders were build.
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Naval Aircraft Co. XLRN-1
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8683/pm31028bf7.png (http://imageshack.us)
- Secound gilder build for US Navy can't land on water but was very heavy can take 80 soliders + 2 pilots
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 05:40 PM
<font color="red"> GERMAN GILDERS </font>
DFS 230
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/329/pm31050tl0.png (http://imageshack.us)
well know gilder test of first prototype starts in 1938 first mass production gilders was interduced in October 1939 but in 1938 with prototypes of this gilder was create firs gilder FJ unit. This gilder take one pilot and 9 soliders. last use was in april 1945 for supply during the siege of Breslau
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 05:51 PM
DFS 230V-7
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/2522/pm31051ll5.png (http://imageshack.us)
That was a total new gilder with the old name for camuflage because RLM don't want new gilders in light class. But the constructors want check the idea of gilder with 230 size but bigger hull and capity.This gilder was only a prototype and build in late 1943. Can take 2 pilots + 15 soliders
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 06:14 PM
Go 242 A and B
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/5931/pm31052ja2.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1680/pm31053da4.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9321/pm31054dl6.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/7354/pm31055co2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Secound well know german gilder
- Serial production starts in late 1941 to the end of this year was made 253 gilders
-can take two pilots and 21 soliders
- version B has a tyre but version A was without this.
blazejos
September 13th, 2006, 06:42 PM
Me 321 Gigant
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5486/pm31056ln2.png (http://imageshack.us)
to well know build especialy for operation Sea Lion
can take 200 soliders or Panzer IV or two heavy truck or a 88mm gun with tractor the crew 6 men. Firs serial production glders was ready in late 1941. About 200 were build.
blazejos
September 14th, 2006, 05:40 AM
Ju 322 Mammut
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9885/pm31057eu8.png (http://imageshack.us)
Secoud hevy gilder prepare for invasion on England
- two prototypes were build
- they were testet in april 1941
- gilder has 2 pilots and can take 100 solider or tank or something of similar dimensions instad.
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 03:00 PM
DFS 331
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/3620/pm31058qz2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Prototype build in 1941 only one
can take two pilots and 18 soliders
newer in production because german prefered bigger gilders like gigant
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Gotha Go 345 A & B
A version
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9959/go345auh9.png (http://imageshack.us)
B version
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2536/go345bma8.png (http://imageshack.us)
only one prototype build in 1944 in version B diferent ver. never finished can take one pilot and 9 soliders
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 04:06 PM
Kalkert Ka 430
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3791/kalkertnr8.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1728/kalkertwy2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Series of 12 from 30 were build to the end of war. Production starts in early 1945. This light gilder can take 2 pilots and 12 full equiped soliders. Was too the last german gilder construction during war.
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 05:13 PM
<font color="red"> JAPAN </font>
Maeda Ku-1
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/2760/ku1wt3.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4981/ku12yg4.png (http://imageshack.us)
First japan military gilder was a light construction for 2 pilots and 8 soliders. 100 gilders were build in years late 1941 to 1942. Interducted into service in late 1941 and use in indochina for soliders transport and military gilders pilot training.
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 05:45 PM
Kokusai Ku-8 I
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7036/ku8ih4.png (http://imageshack.us)
this gilder was made from construction of Ki-59 light transport aircraft without engines. can take 15 soliders
Ku-8 II
Redone hull and wings mass production starts in april 1943 mass production was 700 gilders. Take 2 pilots and 18 soliders or mountain gun in pices
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 05:51 PM
Kokusai Ku-7 Manzuru
Was close in construction to german Go 242 but was bigger. Ku-7 can transport a light tank or tankette or 32 soliders or 75mm gun with tractor. The crew was two pilots. Was made in a few pice 4 or 6.
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Maeda Ku-6 "Kuro-Sha" (black vehicle)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7232/kurotl6.png (http://imageshack.us)
Silmilar to rusian A-40 KT was made very long and prototype was ready in 1945. Special tank "Ku-Ro" with aerodynamical shapes was made for this gilder
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Nihon Kogata Ku-11
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4796/ku11uh7.png (http://imageshack.us)
Was build only 11 gilders. Was light and can take 2 pilots and 12 soliders. build in 1943
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 06:23 PM
MXY-5
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6369/mxyoq1.png (http://imageshack.us)
12 gilders were build in years 1942-1945 for Japan Imperial Navy (this gilder can't land on water). Takes 2 pilots + 11 soliders.
thatguy96
September 16th, 2006, 06:32 PM
I honestly had no idea there were so many types of gliders, even if a lot of them were produced as protos or in small numbers.
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 06:52 PM
<font color="red"> Italy </font>
Alianti da trasporto Ambrosini AL 12P
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4159/lombardahx5.png (http://imageshack.us)
16 this gilders were build in year 1942 can take 2 pilots and 12 soliders
Caproni TM 2
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/520/capronijf2.png (http://imageshack.us)
Two prototypes only build in 1942 can take 2 pilots and 20 soliders
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 07:07 PM
<font color="red"> Australia </font>
DHA EG1
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5100/pm31071aw5.png (http://imageshack.us)
Prototype build in december 1942 takes one pilot + 6 soliders
DHA EG2
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5539/eg2la0.png (http://imageshack.us)
Six gilders were build in 1943 in service were to 1950
blazejos
September 16th, 2006, 07:21 PM
<font color="red"> India</font>
HAL G-1
Build in 1942 from planed 10 only one was build. This gilder can take 1 pilot and 8 soliders
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7416/pm31076si5.png (http://imageshack.us)
<font color="red"> Sweden </font>
Flygindustri Fi-3
Five of this gilders were build in april 1944. Can take 2 pilots and 10 soliders
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9024/pm31075oe3.png (http://imageshack.us)
<font color="red"> Turkay </font>
THK-1
One prototype build in 1942 can take 2 pilots and 10 soliders
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6634/pm31077nm7.png (http://imageshack.us)
END OF LIST [military gilders in years 1930-1946]
blazejos
October 9th, 2006, 05:49 AM
Not stricte gilder but flying tank with motor but I think is intresting. First prototype was build in 1932 in USA by enginier J.W Christie. On plans you can see that should be flying tank with his own propeller and tank engine should drive a propeller when tank flying and tank when wing was relased and tank was on ground. I think that moust be a origin of rusian and japan projects AT-40 and Ku-6 during the war. Some infuences are too in british Hamilcar gilder.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5149/pm31083yq2.png (http://imageshack.us)
An article with ilustrations in Modern Mechanx issue from july 1932
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/7-1932/lrg_cover.jpg
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/7-1932/flying_tanks/xlg_flying_tanks_0.jpg
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/7-1932/flying_tanks/xlg_flying_tanks_1.jpg
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/7-1932/flying_tanks/xlg_flying_tanks_2.jpg
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/7-1932/flying_tanks/xlg_flying_tanks_3.jpg
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/7-1932/flying_tanks/xlg_flying_tanks_4.jpg
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/7-1932/flying_tanks/xlg_flying_tanks_5.jpg
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