Help! I' having problems with the Demo!

[pdonley]

Ever since the demo came out I've been trying to get it to run on my Mac (OSX 10.2.8) and it won't even start up! I asked customer service and they didn't know what was the matter. Has any other Mac users had this problem? Anyone know any solutions?


Patrick

[st.patrik]

Hi Patrick - I'm Patrik http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I also run a mac. The problem might be that you need SDL libraries... (KO or JK may want to confirm this) It may have been left out of the demo to avoid size issues. But it is easy to download and free - just do a google search and you should find it.

If it's not that, then I'm not sure - perhaps you could post more details about your setup.

[Johan K]

SDL should be included in the demo, so no need to install that one. But who knows, maybe I screwed it up somehow.

Open your terminal and start Dominions3 with this command line and tell me what it says:

Dominions3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3 -dd

[pdonley]

I did get a new version of SDL just in case, no change.

Johan when I type the command I get bash-2.05a$ (assuming I'm doing this right).

I don't think I have any exotic stuff on my system, it is an iMa, 700mHz G4, with 640 MB Ram.

Thanks for everyoone's help

Patrick

[Perkanis]

I am having the same problem with the same operating system and this is what i got when I entered the command above

[213-67-203-181-no11:~] ingajoha% Dominions3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3 -dd
Dominions3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3: Command not found.
[213-67-203-181-no11:
.

[Johan K]

You have to change directory to wherever dominions is located first.

e.g. cd ~/Desktop

..if you put it on your desktop

[Perkanis]

well since Patrik has posted now I guess I will try the fix he needed first before i try anything else thanks anyway

[Johan K]

pdonley has already tested installing SDL, but that didn't help and it shouldn't be required to do that either. Remeber, the terminal is your friend. Now put Dominions3.app on your desktop and write these commands in your terminal!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

cd ~/Desktop
Dominions3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3 -dd

[pdonley]

Ok Johan,

I did as you said in the last post, a new window opened with the title "Dominons3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3-dd" with the same bash-2.05a$ prompt.

Sorry, Terminal noob.

[Johan K]

Ok, I don't get why it should do that. BTW, are you using powerpc or intel machines?

[pdonley]

I'm using a powerpc G4.

Ok, just to make sure I'm doing this right...

I have been using the "New Command..." command to enter in
these commands, right. Otherwise all I get is command not found message.

[Johan K]

Nope, you should be using the teminal or shell or whatever that application is called. Do a "ls" (lists all files) too so you can see if Dominions3.app is in the same directory as you.

[Perkanis]

Done still it dosent work posting mesage
Dominions3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3 -dd [213-67-203-181-no11:~/Desktop] ingajoha% Dominions3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3 -dd
Dominions3.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3: Command not found.
[213-67-203-181-no11:~/Desktop] ingajoha%

The folder was on the deskotope when I did this

[pdonley]

Ok so scratch what I did before...

In the shell I changed the directory to the Desktop (where the app is located) did a ls and found the app (it is listed as Dominions3demo.app). When I try the command line Dominions3.app/Contents..., I get a command not found. The same holds true using the same command but with Dominions3demo.app

[Johan K]

Ah, of course you are using the demo, I didn't think of that. So it should be something like:
Dominions3demo.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3demo -dd

Feel free to improve it if you get another 'command not found'.

[pdonley]

Here's what comes up Johan

dyld: Dominions3demo.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3demo can't open library: /usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
Trace/BPT trap

[Perkanis]

[213-67-203-181-no11:~] ingajoha% /Users/ingajoha/Desktop/dominions3demo_osx\ Folder/Dominions3demo.app
/Users/ingajoha/Desktop/dominions3demo_osx Folder/Dominions3demo.app: Permission denied.

Tried this as a change and got this the folder is still on the desktope hope it helps

[djo]

I googled on that library--it's a standard OS X lib, not SDL.

I found a report that suggests that the 10.2.8/PPC combo has this problem with some build methods. Beyond that, the discussion was over my head.

Dom 3 is advertised as requiring 10.1 or later, so you are in principle OK. Testing lots of hardware/OS combos is tough. Is there anyone out there (beta testers?) who ran Dom3 under 10.2.8 on a PPC Mac?

[Perkanis]

Bump since I am still having problems and dont want this treadh to die untill this is resolved

[Johan K]

Problem looks to be the same as this.

http://bura-bura.com/blog/archives/2005/08/02/how-to-compile-an-application-for-102-or-103-using-xcode-21/

Looks like a recompilation is necessary. I'll try to create a new demo and then you can see if that works better.

[pdonley]

Thank you Johan

[Perkanis]

When you are done coud you please post that you are done here in this tread so that we know ok

[pdonley]

Bump

[Perkanis]

Bumpe and please reply Johan

[Johan K]

I'll let you guys know as soon as it is done.

[johan osterman]

A new mac demo has been created now. Hopefully it works on older versions of OSX as well. Please give it a try and let me know how it works. If it works ok I'll tell Shrapnel to update the download page with this one.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dominions3demo_osx.zip

edit: oops I posted as the big head, but I'm really the giant toad.

[pdonley]

JOhan
thanks again for all your work on this issue.
The new demo works on my machine, except that it crashes when making a random map (I'm not even sure if this is supposed to be in the demo).

And now for the $55 dollar question, will have the same difficulties with the full game? If so, is there a fix that I can do on my end?

Patrick

[Johan K]

The random map generator in 'tools' is supposed to be disabled. But a new game should be able to be started with a random map. Does it crash every time or was it only once?

[Johan K]

Oh and the full version on the CD won't work on your computer either. But that'll be improved with the patch and I can compile a quick fix for you as well if necessary.

[pdonley]

Yes, the game crashes everytime I try to start with a random map. I have tried all the sizes of maps with the same result.

Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to buy the full game right now, but it will be a Christmas present. So, the first patch might be done by then, and if it is not I will post here for a quick fix.

Thanks again Johan, you have gone above and beyond.

Patrick

[Johan K]

Thanks for testing! But now I want to know what's up with the random map too. Could you run Dominions from the terminal with -dd as you did last time and let me know what it says when you try to create a random map?

[pdonley]

Here is what comes up when I create a random map game:

CreateRandomMap
InitRandboard 1760 1320 adr0
Filling up with water
Sea level 100.000000 (part 0.300000, real 0.331999) deep 67.500000 (part 0.120000, real 0.113089)
Putting down some mountains
Mount level 157.500000 (part 0.140000, realpart 0.149349)
Placing capitals
dyld: Dominions3demo.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3demo Undefined symbols:
Dominions3demo.app/Contents/MacOS/Dominions3demo undefined reference to _sqrtf expected to be defined in /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
Trace/BPT trap

Let me know what else I can do

[Johan K]

Thank you private!

[Johan K]

The mac demo has been updated now. Please give it a try and see if you can make random maps as well.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dominions3demo_osx.zip

[Jefke]

Hi gentlemen,

Just got the game and tried to install it on an iMac G4 (768MB RAM) with MacOS X 10.2.6 installed.

I got similar symptoms : if I double-click on the installed icon, it appears briefly in the dock, disappears then nothing happens

Now, trying to run from the command line, I have the following result :


[MacaO:Divertissements/Dominions3.app/Contents] jfrl% ./Dominions3 -dd
dyld: ./Dominions3 can't open library: @executable_path/../Frameworks/SDL.framework/Versions/A/SDL (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
Trace/BPT trap




Indeed, there is no such file called SDL in the dir tree.
I'm not sure this is case insensitive, but in case it is, here are the various places where sdl is found in the dir tree :
./Contents/Frameworks/SDL.framework/a/sdl
./Contents/Frameworks/SDL.framework/Current/sdl
./Contents/Frameworks/SDL.framework/sdl

I did not try the new demo yet. I'll continue playing on the PC from now.

I don't know if it helps.

JeF.

[pdonley]

The new demo worked with a medium random map. So far I gone through about 20 turns, no problems. I will try the other size maps later and let you know.

Just as a side note, the first recompiled demo allowed me to play both middle and late age nations. Not all nations, the same as the early age nations. So, I'll be keeping that one for a while too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Patrick

[Kristoffer O]

This was fixed today. So keep your old demo, but keep it to yourself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[pdonley]

I won't be sharing the old demo. And I have run all the sizes of random maps and they all work.

Thanks again Johan

[Jefke]

Reporting that the latest demo works on my system too. Nice !
And that the little blurb in the credits is solved too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

JeF.