MP Game, Middle age

[Graeme Dice]

Now that my first game is underway, I'm setting up a game in the middle age. Pick your nation, and we'll be using the default settings except where noted.

Random Map: 15 provinces per player.
Renaming on
No house rules
48 hr quickhost
The winning condition will be to control a number of victory points equal to the number of players. Each capital will count as a victory point. There will be a number of other victory points spread around the map. The amount of these victory points that are spread around the map will be one less than the total number of players.

The current players are:
Graeme: Agartha
Death: Machaka
Jeffr: Pangaea
Hadrian_II: Pythium
Theonlystd: R'lyeh
Tibbs: Shinuyama
Arameyan: C'Tis
Foodstamp: Oceania
RamsHead: Atlantis
Xox: Vanheim
Tyrant: Marignon
Catquiet: Jotunheim
Ezco: Ulm
Jaydedone: Man
Faj: Abysia

IP Addr: 68.148.8.147
Port: 11111

[Death]

Count me in.

[jeffr]

I'm in for Pangaea.

[Hadrian_II]

I'd like to join as Phythium

[Theonlystd]

Id try R'lyeh

[tibbs]

I'll try Shinuyama.

[Arameyan]

I'd like to join as Ctis!

[Foodstamp]

This would be my first MP game (Is that ok?). I would like to try as Oceania, they look interesting to me in middle age.

[Arameyan]

This would be my first D3 mp game also
I played Dom2 mp games (not created by this forum)

[RamsHead]

I'll take Atlantis. Foodstamp, I look forward to us meeting in the seas.

[Foodstamp]

theonlystd is in the seas as well! Atleast allow me to survive long enough to learn a thing or two http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Theonlystd]

Foodstamp said:
theonlystd is in the seas as well! Atleast allow me to survive long enough to learn a thing or two http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif




hahah phear the noob wars

first mp game also :p

[Xox]

I would like to take Vanheim please.

So all default settings except for renaming?

And thanks for hosting!

[Tyrant]

I'll take Marignon please

[Death]

I'll be Machaka
This is my first D3 MP game

[Graeme Dice]

The server is up, and is at the IP and port listed in the first post.

[Foodstamp]

Ok, I believe I loaded my pretender properly.

[Catquiet]

I'll take Jotunheim.

[Ezco]

So many first timers so I'll have a go as well. Ulm it is for me.

[JaydedOne]

Room for a Man player here?

[Theonlystd]

Tried to connect said server wasnt found?

[Graeme Dice]

I'll take a look at the server tonight and see if there's something I can do to fix it.

[Theonlystd]

well its working now but im on a different computer but then again i've never had probs on my other puter.

[jeffr]

I was able to connect Ok.

[FAJ]

I would like to join as Abysia

This will be my first Dom3 MP http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

p.s. I could connect fine

[Graeme Dice]

Now that we're at 15 players, I'll close the registration, and ask everybody to submit their pretenders. As long as nothing unforseen happens, I'll start the game Saturday morning.

[FAJ]

When do we need to have our first turn done by?

[Graeme Dice]

FAJ said:
When do we need to have our first turn done by?



I'll set the first turn's timer to 72 hours, so that it will have to be done by noon on Monday.

[FAJ]

very cool, I wont be in the same state as my computer this saturday http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Graeme Dice]

I suppose that I should let everyone know that as a general policy for my games, I don't like to run too many turns on weekends because many players have other committments. If there's a Canadian long weekend coming up, then expect the turn to possibly not process until late Monday night. I'll try and let everyone know ahead of time in this thread. If there's an American long weekend that doesn't have a corresponding one in Canada (Like thanksgiving), then let me know here or in a PM, and I'll also postpone the turn processing.

[tibbs]

Pretender is uploaded. All fear Takashi-no Jo!

[RamsHead]

tibbs said:
Pretender is uploaded. All fear Takashi-no Jo!


What kind of wussified name is Takashi-no Jo? You think people will tremble at the sound of that? They won't. My pretender though will make the people vomit in fear and tear their eyes out. It is a name so immensely terrifying that even I hesitate to speak it.

[tibbs]

The name is to give you a false sense of security.

Great quote in your sig btw.

[Arameyan]

Thank you for hosting!

[Foodstamp]

RamsHead said:

tibbs said:
Pretender is uploaded. All fear Takashi-no Jo!


What kind of wussified name is Takashi-no Jo? You think people will tremble at the sound of that? They won't. My pretender though will make the people vomit in fear and tear their eyes out. It is a name so immensely terrifying that even I hesitate to speak it.



Chuck Norris is your pretender? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[RamsHead]

Foodstamp said:

RamsHead said:

tibbs said:
Pretender is uploaded. All fear Takashi-no Jo!


What kind of wussified name is Takashi-no Jo? You think people will tremble at the sound of that? They won't. My pretender though will make the people vomit in fear and tear their eyes out. It is a name so immensely terrifying that even I hesitate to speak it.



Chuck Norris is your pretender? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif


What!? The indignity! Of course Chuck Norris is not my pretender! It is unwise to anger the God of Atlantis.

[Cainehill]

RamsHead said:

tibbs said:
Pretender is uploaded. All fear Takashi-no Jo!


What kind of wussified name is Takashi-no Jo? You think people will tremble at the sound of that? They won't.



Yes they will. In one language, "Takashi-no Jo" translates roughly to "Lady who could Sumo wrestle, wearing a string bikini". People will tremble at the sound, and the smell, and definately the sight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Cainehill]

Foodstamp said:
My pretender though will make the people vomit in fear and tear their eyes out. It is a name so immensely terrifying that even I hesitate to speak it.



Chuck Norris is your pretender? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[/quote]

Nah - Roseanne Barr? Britney Spears? George Bush?

[Xox]

Maybe Cheney geared with the insanity bow and any one , heck make it two, of those nifty magical hearts seen beating through that wound they make. That's quite a vision.

[tibbs]

Cainehill said:

RamsHead said:

tibbs said:
Pretender is uploaded. All fear Takashi-no Jo!


What kind of wussified name is Takashi-no Jo? You think people will tremble at the sound of that? They won't.



Yes they will. In one language, "Takashi-no Jo" translates roughly to "Lady who could Sumo wrestle, wearing a string bikini". People will tremble at the sound, and the smell, and definately the sight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



I like your translation better than mine. It should translate into "Takashi's Castle" which is the original name of the show they used for Most Extreme Elimination Challenge if anyone has seen that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[JaydedOne]

*chuckle* I've seen it. Should be "Takeshi's" Castle though, as it's "Beat" Takeshi aka Takeshi Kitano, fantastic actor, director, and painter of high Japanese acclaim. Which, of course, makes his participation in the show that spawned MEEC all the funnier. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[RamsHead]

Xox said:
Maybe Cheney geared with the insanity bow and any one , heck make it two, of those nifty magical hearts seen beating through that wound they make. That's quite a vision.


You're joking right. First thing: a magic heart would not affect him because he has the lifeless attribute, you know because he's an inanimate. Second thing: why would you give him a bow? He is gonna hit one of his own guys.

[FAJ]

Soulless != lifeless http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
The question is, could Cheney be banished? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Foodstamp]

Karl Rove would just reanimate him.

[tibbs]

JaydedOne said:
*chuckle* I've seen it. Should be "Takeshi's" Castle though, as it's "Beat" Takeshi aka Takeshi Kitano, fantastic actor, director, and painter of high Japanese acclaim. Which, of course, makes his participation in the show that spawned MEEC all the funnier. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Yeah, after I typed it I realized the mistake. Yeah, that show is pretty old but I still saw him on vending machines and on TV when I was over there. Quite the celebrity I guess.

[DrPraetorious]

Is the game still open? If so, I'm in as mighty Ermor - and I will roundhouse kick you, so you best step off.

--Sam

[Graeme Dice]

The game has started.

[Foodstamp]

Turn 1 sent. Things are already looking very bleak. The ocean I planned to conquer turned out to be a 1 province lake. My aquatic pretender and aquatic starting troops are very depressed at the prospect of being imprisoned in one province. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

[RamsHead]

Hey Foodstamp you out there?

[Foodstamp]

aye RamsHead, whats up?

[RamsHead]

I PMed you.

[Graeme Dice]

I going to be setting up an automatic emailer this week. If everybody could PM me their email addresses, I can set up the automailer and get a list sent out to everyone for diplomatic purposes.

[RamsHead]

Graeme Dice are you going to change the time back to 24 hours now that we are out of the weekend? Just curious.

[Graeme Dice]

I'll be switching the game back to 48 hours once the next hosting occurs.

[RamsHead]

Ah, yes 48 hours. Sorry I got confused there.

[FAJ]

can you make it any faster for the first couple turns?

[Graeme Dice]

I'm not planning to make it any faster, as it's much easier to get into a rhythm when the turns come at predictable intervals.

[RamsHead]

Somebody has to tell me what the Snake Charmer is like. I haven't seen him in SP yet, and as I am Atlantis, I can't even try to recruit him.

[FAJ]

Um, does misfortune just increase the likelyhood of bad event or does it also influence the severity of the events? In 2 turns, random events have increased capitals unrest significantly and cut its population by over a fifth. Is this just bad luck? It never happened in SP.

[JaydedOne]

Heh. I don't believe it necessarily influences the severity of the events directly -- however, there are certain HORRIBLE events that are restricted to the lower levels of Misfortune, so that you can only get them with a 2 or 3 rating.

[FAJ]

How big a disadvantage is it to essentially start with only 20000 people as opposed to 30000?

[Graeme Dice]

Your starting income is 2/3rds of what it would be with 30000. It can be dealt with as long as you expand as fast as you can.

[FAJ]

Reasources are not affected by pop. are they? Abysia has low gold and high reasource cost, so I am more worried about indirect ramifications (especially with a 0 growth/death scale).

[DrPraetorious]

I do wish the game had an option to disable random events for the first six months.

[Folket]

That would throw off the balance even more making missfortune a complete nobrainer. At least now there is a risk involved with having missfortune.

[DrPraetorious]

Okay - an option for turning off *bad* random events for spring and summer of year 1. Merely missing out on good random events would be problematic - and even order-3 misfortune-0 players such as myself experience a certain number of earthquakes and lab fires and such on turn 1.

And given how deleterious some of the bad random events can be, even in the late game (and given how useful many of the good random events are), I dispute that misfortune would ever be a no-brainer.

[JaydedOne]

I've gotten used to the horrid Misfortune element at game startup. After all, is it really that much worse than starting off two provinces away from Ermor as sometimes happens? You can generally find ways around the nasty Misfortune events, even losing your lab or temple turn 1 (which, admittedly, sucks, but if you're playing Misfortune 2 or 3, you should probably be buying a mage or a priest or, better, both on Turn 1 just in case.)

*shrug* I do think that turning it off would tend to give too great a swing to the already heavily-chosen Misfortune scale. But then, we allow so many other scales to be tampered with by game settings at the game startup phase that I think you could probably add some sort of toggle or slider for random events as well.

[DrPraetorious]

You can set random events to rare, of course: but this greatly penalizes people with the turmoil/fortune combo (which is actually quite nice if rare events are common.)

Also, personally, I use a perl-script to ensure that start-sites are reasonably spread out on my random maps.

Obviously the game is going to be far from scrupulously fair - but I find it very irritating when someone is essentially swatted on the first turn, no matter what picks they took.

[tibbs]

I PM'd the game hoster this morning but I haven't heard back so I just wanted to let everyone know that I'll be out of town over the weekend and I won't be able to post a turn for around 48hrs from now.

Thanks,
Chris

[Graeme Dice]

My internet connection apparently went down this morning after I left. I've restarted all the servers and set them back to their normal hosting schedule. Look for the email notification of new turns to hopefully start tomorrow.

[FAJ]

Hehe, my computer crapped out and it took me 3 days to get it working again. I come back and I havent missed a turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. Such bad luck in game, such good luck out!

[DrPraetorious]

Is R'lyeh stale-ing?

[Foodstamp]

Things are looking bleak for Oceanius, Man did not hesitate in taking our foothold on land, and it seems a priest misfollowed an order. For the time being we have retreated into our pond preparing to launch an assault on our aggressive neighbor to the south.

[RamsHead]

Do we upgrade before or after you upgrade?

[FAJ]

R'lyeh is being played by a player who is also MIA in another game I am in. It is going to make a 48h QH take forever if he isn't killed or turned over to a sub/computer.

[tibbs]

Yeah, he is in two games I am in as well. Did he tell anyone he was going to be away? If not I say turn him AI.

[DrPraetorious]

Are we upgrading to the patch?

[Graeme Dice]

I will be upgrading the server as soon as possible, hopefully tomorrow afternoon.

[Graeme Dice]

I will be patching the game after the next hosting.

[FAJ]

Can we get a sub for R'lyeh or turn it into a computer? he hasnt done or said anything for a long time.

[Arameyan]

So to play the next turn we have to patch the game? (just to be sure)

[Graeme Dice]

If nobody objects, I'll turn R'lyeh over to the computer for the next turn. The next turn is also player via the next patch.

[jeffr]

I've just read where a bug in the new patch causes some sort of nasty Horror to attack any commander or pretender in the hall of fame, horror marked or not. Should we patch or delay the patch until this is fixed?

[FAJ]

Why has the hosting all of a sudden go to 46 hours untill next? I had done my turn yesterday, and it was less time than that before?

[RamsHead]

He patched it maybe?

[FAJ]

So is r'lyeh a computer now? He staled for the last couple turns along with man.

[Graeme Dice]

Since R'lyeh hasn't spoken up to claim his position, I'll turn him to the AI.

[jeffr]

should we patch?

[Graeme Dice]

The game was patched last weekend, as posted in this thread, so you will have to patch if you want your battle replays to match what is happening on the server.

[FAJ]

How many stale turns (without notice) do you wait for untill a player is set to computer? Just wondering.

[FAJ]

I ask, because Man hasnt played a turn in over a week, Im pretty sure.

[Tyrant]

JayedOne was posting here several times a day for quite awhile until 11/4. Nothing since then, so it kinda looks like he has wandered off. He could be having a access problem though, you never know. I PMed him a few days ago and asked him to go AI if he's not going to play. Sucks for us, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

[Tyrant]

Anyone get eaten by the Hunter of Heroes yet?

[tibbs]

In one of my other MP games my Pretender was killed by the Hunter of Heroes. Of course that is the only game that is not patched to the new version out of the 5 games I am playing. ;P

[Hadrian_II]

i've just seen the Hunter of Heroes once and that was in single player, so i can't see whats the problem with him (or maybe he hates lucky nations http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif). But im very symphatethic to his cause to kill other heroes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[FAJ]

Man has been stale for about 10 days now, if im not mistaken.

Does anyone know where Jaydedone has gone?

[Arameyan]

No...

Should we do something for him? E-mail him or change him for a computer?

[DrPraetorious]

If he's staled twice, turn him computer - otherwise, he's just free provinces for his neighbors.

[Graeme Dice]

My problem is that I don't have any good way to determine who has staled on a given turn, as I very rarely actually see the turn processing start.

[FAJ]

Its been nearly two weeks since he has posted anywhere on the forums. He has (Along with R'lyeh before he was switched) been the last one left before the host for the last couple turns.

Generally if your the last before the host, you are the first after the host. he just has been stale for many days. My guess is vacation, or loss of computer access, or something that would keep him away from computer/internet for an extended period.

Either way, he is making this game drag something serious.

[tibbs]

I've also noticed that he has been last to finish every turn.

Maybe his parent's grounded him from the computer for poor grades?

[jeffr]

Who is Ermor in this game? Very thematic message that you sent me in-game!

[DrPraetorious]

I am http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

It would've worked, too, except that you have the (expletive deleted) fire blessing. Also, meddling kids entered into it. My lawyer advises me not to provide details. Suffice to say that if anyone dressed up as a ghost pirate, it wasn't me.

[Mind Elemental]

Hmmm.... in the event you need a replacement player, in lieu of setting Man to AI, I'd be up for it (if you don't mind my utter noobishness). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Graeme Dice]

Man was set to AI a long time ago.

[DrPraetorious]

I'm heading home for Turkey Day this evening - I hope not to miss turns but cannot be sure.

[Graeme Dice]

The server will be going down for a few hours this weekend, while I repartition the windows drive and reinstall Win98. I'll also implement the turn emails at the same time, as they require a server shutdown to get the new --postexec commands to work. Expect a delay from a few hours to a day before the server comes back up.

I will also be starting another set of games next week. Look for the announcements coming soon.

[Meglobob]

Wrong game! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

[FAJ]

I havent been able to connect to the server for 2-3 days now. Has anything about the connect info changed?

[Tyrant]

Me either, I'm assuming Graeme is having some difficulty with his reconfiguration.

[Hadrian_II]

is the server still down?

[Graeme Dice]

The server is unfortunately still down as it turned out that I also needed to get a new floppy drive for my newer computer before I could make the startup disk necessary to rebuild the server. I'm hoping to get everything reinstalled today or tomorrow depending on my schedule, and have the server back up by Saturday. I have to apologize for the long delay.

[Graeme Dice]

The server is almost back up, except for the fact that the video card cooler fan melted and needs to be replaced.

[Graeme Dice]

The server is back up, and should stay up indefinitely now that I've identified and fixed the problem that was crashing it. (Video card overheating to the point that the fan melted to th chip.)

The server is currently running version 3.04, and has a 48 hour time delay before the first turn starts. I'm still looking for a good email notification program that will work with my setup.

[tibbs]

Shinuyama has completed it's turn. New turn up.

[jeffr]

Pan has bit the dust. Thanks for the game! When is the next one? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Graeme Dice]

The server has been rebooted. I'm not sure what crashed it.

[Foodstamp]

Well Oceania is out. I held on as long as I could, and even tried to make a push from what had to be the most wretched starting position ever assigned to a water nation. It just wasn't enough. Good game all and goodluck.

[Graeme Dice]

I was quite surprised that Oceania got stuck all by itself up there, and quite impressed that you held out as long as you did.

[tibbs]

Hmm, when did Ermor go AI? I didn't know they were on the ropes.

[DrPraetorious]

My position is far weaker than it appears on cursory examination. I may have over-reacted in going computer controlled - but it's too late now.

[Ezco]

Damn. Didn't even notice. No fun conquering AI lands. And yes I was just about to make a knock out. Well and that lucky arrow volley which took 4-5 thaumaturgs got to hurt.

[Graeme Dice]

I will be putting the games on quickhost only today, until the first week in January.

[tibbs]

The only nation to not play is Argatha. I don't think they are playing anymore. I think they only have a few territories left. Maybe they can be set to AI.

[Tyrant]

Isn't Graeme Argatha?

[tibbs]

Oh, is he? He must still be away then. I thought the timer was going to resume the 1st week of january.

[Graeme Dice]

I've started up the timer again.

[Hadrian_II]

nice so Pythium can start his last march against marignon.

[Hadrian_II]

well pythiums last march has failed, and so i give control over pythium to the AI.

good game

[Tyrant]

Good war Hadrian, you fought hard.

[Catquiet]

Anyone else having trouble connecting?

[Tyrant]

yea, looks like Graeme's server is down, other games also having trouble

[RamsHead]

Gee, Jotunheim, who made your army size drop so much last month. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Graeme Dice]

The server should be back up, let me know if it isn't.

[Tyrant]

I cannot connect since last night.

[Graeme Dice]

I'm really starting to get fed up with Shaw, since they can't seem to manage to keep their connection up for more than 24 hours at a time these days. I'll reboot the router once again tonight when I get home.

[RamsHead]

Thanks again Graeme Dice for hosting this game. It seems to be frustrating you.

[Graeme Dice]

The reason that nobody has been able to connect for the last while is that when my Internet connection died for the better part of the day on the 24th, I got a different dynamic IP assigned to me. I just figured it out while at work, so I'll fix it as soon as possible. I'd like to get these games rolling again.

[Graeme Dice]

The new IP address is 68.148.8.147

[Arameyan]

Hi everyone,

I wont be able to play my turn for the next 30 or 36 hours. I'm out for the weekend.

Thank you!

Arame

[Arameyan]

I'm Ctis

[Arameyan]

I'm back!

[Xox]

Not able to connect server .147

[Graeme Dice]

Unfortunately, somebody didn't read my server status thread and has already submitted their turn with a version 3.06 client. This is causing the server to crash repeatedly, which it will continue to do so until the patch can be applied, which is not for another 24 hours.

[RamsHead]

3.06 has been uploaded, right?

[Graeme Dice]

It has been upgraded now.

[Ezco]

I think Shinuyama has not made his turn for quite some time, but I also don't understand why his lands have not been taken.
We could step up the pace if he would be kicked. Otherwise I really like the 48 hour limit and sometimes hope it would be even longer. Thank you very much for hosting again Graeme and I hope I will get to play another MP on your server when this one comes closer to the end. If that one underwater province is all that is left of Shinuyama I cannot understand why Atlantis won't take. Maybe he has a peace treaty with it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif. Well hopefully his dominion comes to end soon.

[Tyrant]

Shinuyama is dead except for one sea provence that i cannot get to. If someone with amphibious capacity takes that out he will be gone.

[Graeme Dice]

If that's the case, then I can set them to AI tonight.

[Arameyan]

Hi all,

I wont be able to play for the weekend. I'll be back sunday in the afternoon.

I'm Ctis

Arame

[Arameyan]

Hi all

I'm out for the next week, I'm going to Cuba http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I obviously wont be able to play. As I'm the weakest of the map I choosed to become computer controlled instead of asking you to wait for me. To respect my treaty with Marigon I'll send all my ressources (gold, gems) to him. But I dont think my small AI controlled army (currently all holding siege on a Abysian castle) will offer much resistance to anyone.

I enjoyed the map, it was fun to play with you all. My many early strategic mistakes, powerful neighbors and the prepatch Miasma income bug prevented me from becoming a strong nation long ago, but it was fun anyway. I got the chance to try a giant toad + sirrush Nature blessed army http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Its quite effective, exepted when the sirrush block the castle entrance, forcing the trampling toads to wait behind, under the Abysian rain of fire and killing all my bodyguards and commanders with poison clouds...

Have fun! Thank you Graeme for hosting these games.

Arame

[RamsHead]

I am sorry guys, but I have RL things to deal with right now. I cannot take my turns for awhile, so I will set myself AI. It shouldn't mess things up too much, because I don't believe I am in an influential position. Good luck to the rest of the players.

[Tyrant]

It seems to have crashed during host, i was last, i upleaded and while i was waiting to get the new turn the connection broke.

[Graeme Dice]

Thanks for letting me know.

[Ezco]

Game over. Great game everyone. I'm glad I made it to the end on my first long term MP game.
Hooray for Tyrant. It was funny how quickly it turned for my Ulm. First I was overly confident sieging his capital and teleporting my golems at his provinces and few turns later my army and expensive golems destroyed I was in despair and never recovered.
Hip hip hurray for Tyrant yet again and thanks to Graeme for hosting. Smith Council of the Iron Empire and their deformed god will be forever forgotten in books of history.

[Tyrant]

You fought quite well Ezco, of my many opponents only Shinuyama did better, and I was fighting them left-handed while my main forces were engaged against Pythium.

Abyssia seems to have lost heart when C'tis betrayed him and you were overmatched by that point in the game, i don't really think there was much else you could have done. Letting my capitol be besieged is a tactic i use so often it should be named after me- i did it twice this game- and it's only failed once.

I was kind of embarrassed about how easily i took out your golems. Each of my guys had the advantage, but only slightly and by my calculations the odds of my winning three in a row were 7% and three in row without losses 1.2%. So unless my math is wrong you wuz robbed! Stymphalian Golem raiders are very excellent- they are nearly unstoppable against nation without astral, but as you saw astral nations have a straightforward counter. Even without my extraordinary luck they would have gone down eventually to a much cheaper unit.

Some other random thoughts on this game-

Marignon was a weak nation in DomII, but i kinda thought the doubled economy in 3 would fix that, and to my satisfaction it has.

I have learned a whole new respect for Astral Fires, Aby would have kicked my butt without that spell and AE with 100 precision just generally rox!

Why no Blood magic from Abbysia? Others disagree, but i think Aby is one of the top Blood nations and i don't know why one would play them and not use it.

Cat- It seems like you have been in at least half the games i've played online and i'm always glad to see you on the roster and hope to have a border with you. Seems like the two of us have come in 2nd third in a half a dozen games. You are a man after my own heart- you don't babble or engage in Byzantine diplomacy, you don't get overrun and cause a power vacum, and until this game you have never broken a NAP. Under the circumstances I don't really hold it against you, it was a half hearted attack in game that was pretty much done, but a declaration would have been a nice formality.

Thanks to all for the game, and big thanks to Graeme for hosting!

[Xox]

Congratulations to Tyrant for the win against multiple opponents. Very impressive.

Not sure how catquiet's nap with me or tyrant squares with casting astral corruption and illwinter, but it was intersting watchng the world gradually come to an end.

I thought i was learning to live with astral corruption and then i get a visit from the "slave to unreason" while casting a not too ambitious ritual. Not sure why the over reaction there. He is not a nice guy to get a visit from.

Brave fight by all the tyrant opponents. Sorry I could not help, I was boxed in by the giants with an ironclad nap and a big ocean full of Atlantians

Too bad the game ended before i could find out exactly what it is illwinter does. Anyone know what it does besides cause a little unrest and maybe a colder weather?

[Dedas]

I wish I could've watched this game. Anyway, congratulations Tyrant! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif