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CharonJr
November 28th, 2006, 11:54 AM
Hello,

I have been wondering if penetration enhancing items/spells (rune smasher, focus, ...) will help with magic items penetrating enemy MR, too, or if it will only help with spells cast by the mage himself ?

CharonJr

CharonJr
November 29th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Hmm, nobody knows this one ? Any idea how this was handled in Dom2 (likely still the same) ?

CharonJr

Endoperez
November 29th, 2006, 11:45 AM
I think penetration items didn't affect items in DomII.

Cainehill
November 29th, 2006, 02:56 PM
I know penetration items don't (didn't) affect innate abilities that weren't cast (R'lyeh's mindblast, etc), but don't really recall whether it would affect a spell _cast_ via an item. I'd actually suspect it would work with items used via scripting to cast, but wouldn't work if it's something that's fired / swung.

CharonJr
November 29th, 2006, 05:09 PM
Well, thank you for the answers, it looks like we have to keep guessing unless a dev takes a look at this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

CharonJr

Maltrease
November 29th, 2006, 06:29 PM
What item spell are you referring to anyway?

It would be that hard to test if you loaded up someone with the - eye of the void, penetration amulet, rune breaker? (+2 penetration weapon). That would be +5 penetration which would reveal itself relatively quickly if you ran 20 uses of the item with it penetration bonus, and 20 without.

Reverend Zombie
November 29th, 2006, 07:01 PM
I've always wondered about this for items that have spell-like MR-negates effects:

Ethereal crossbow is "MR-negates" & it would be interesting to see the test results Maltrease suggests with with that (though Rune Smasher can't be used).

Then there are effects like Decay from Bane Blade.

I'm drawing a blank right now on items that let you *cast* spells with MR-negates...the unholy-blessing artifact sword, maybe?

Cainehill
November 30th, 2006, 04:04 AM
Reverend Zombie said:
I'm drawing a blank right now on items that let you *cast* spells with MR-negates...the unholy-blessing artifact sword, maybe?



The one artifact crown that allows charm, for one. Think there were others.

Shovah32
November 30th, 2006, 03:25 PM
Well, although not in battle i believe the black mirror lets you cast mind hunt.