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Iblis
January 13th, 2007, 05:11 AM
Hello, I apologize if my English is bad as I picked up this game while visiting friends of mine family in Washington State. I was wondering for your game, is there anyway to make battle controlled by myself? It is a small annoyance to have to hope things turn out best for you automatically. :[

Thank you all!

Meglobob
January 13th, 2007, 05:31 AM
No.

You get to place your troops, give them orders and script your mages. Then, just like Napoleon you get to sit back, watch and hope...

Agrajag
January 13th, 2007, 05:44 AM
The only control you can have over battles is the "scripting" of units before the battle.

Iblis
January 13th, 2007, 06:24 AM
Aaaaah, okay thank you. I am simply very confused because I am not able to win battles very easily, or with an always same strategy, even against almost-same armies. :\

I don't understand how to 'bless', or how to get/find better units than the units you can make at start of the game.

Makes me wish Josh had not spilled Coke on the manual. ;]

Thank you all!

calmon
January 13th, 2007, 06:41 AM
To bless you need commanders with priest level. You can script them in the army menu with 'Cast a specific spell'. Choose 'Blessing' and some of your sacred troops will be blessed. Priests with priest level 3 and higher are able to cast 'Devine Blessing' which bless all your sacred units on the battlefield.

The starting units are very good in most cases. You normally get better troops trough better spells. Try to research 'Conjuration'. Your mages will be able to cast some mighty summons if you research one of the higher levels.

Meglobob
January 13th, 2007, 09:01 AM
Iblis said:
how to get/find better units than the units you can make at start of the game.



I think virtually every nation starts with good to excellent units of 1 type or another. Indeed the usual drawback is that the best national units are usually capital only.

You only get better units from higher level spells, special sites or the odd rare indie province.

Playing SP, it is very rare for me to lose more than a dozen units in a battle. Most of the time I do not lose any, its just a matter of gaining experience with the game. Eventually even impossible AI's are just mostly harmless.

PDF
January 13th, 2007, 09:47 AM
Huh, how did you "pick the game" on a trip ? Sorry to look suspicious but the game is only sold online, and your second post about loss of manual makes the situation even more strange...

Meglobob
January 13th, 2007, 10:28 AM
PDF said:
Huh, how did you "pick the game" on a trip ? Sorry to look suspicious but the game is only sold online, and your second post about loss of manual makes the situation even more strange...



I was suspicious as well. But I guess we should give people the benefit of the doubt.

Anyone who plays a copied version of Dom3 and does not buy the original, is a lowlife thief in my opinion. Ripping off the big software houses is one thing, they can perhaps stand the loss and future software production is not affected but small indies like Illwinter are very, very vulnerable to software piracy. Every Dom3 sale will make a Dom4 more likely and mean more money can be invested into making a Dom4, so we will have an even better game.

Gandalf Parker
January 13th, 2007, 02:22 PM
Another "casually picked up the game" person with no manual.
At least he was more careful about how he asked a question.

Maybe we should make more effort to give answers as a page and paragraph of the manual.

Foodstamp
January 13th, 2007, 02:56 PM
Iblis, even though Josh spilled coke on the manual, it is so thick that you did not miss the important part your looking for!

Flip to page 293 in the manual and the debug code to enable full control of battles is listed there, along with the other cheat codes for the game. I hope this helps, goodluck!

PDF
January 13th, 2007, 03:26 PM
Gandalf Parker said:
Another "casually picked up the game" person with no manual.
At least he was mroe careful about how he asked a question.

Maybe we should make more effort to give answers as a page and paragraph of the manual.



Yeah, maybe. What's amazing is that some people gives way to suspicion by lame-looking explanations on how they got the game, lost the manual, whatever, whereas if they just wrote the question they'll had answers without any troubles ...
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

CaoCao
January 13th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Gandalf Parker said:
Maybe we should make more effort to give answers as a page and paragraph of the manual.



Ummm I think that wont work for someone like me who bought the chinese dom 3 version. The manual is a bit different from page numbers and so one. So I still would need to search a lot to find what you want me to look at... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
And while I am chinese I relocated with my mother when I was a kid, so my chinese is not the best, makes it quite hard to understand something sometimes.

So yes what are these cheatcodes? I can not seem to find them! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Foodstamp
January 13th, 2007, 04:28 PM
There is a chinese translated version of this game/manual? o.O incredible.

CaoCao
January 13th, 2007, 04:45 PM
Foodstamp said:
There is a chinese translated version of this game/manual? o.O incredible.



Of course there is. Only problem is when I use a mod somethings are in chinese and some are in english, but thats not so bad.
Only a bit confusing sometimes, but not much the developers could do to change that I guess.

Foodstamp
January 13th, 2007, 04:51 PM
I wonder how many languages the game is printed in. It is amazing to me such a small company can have the game/manual printed in so many different languages.

Gandalf Parker
January 13th, 2007, 05:04 PM
CaoCao said:
So yes what are these cheatcodes? I can not seem to find them! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


I dont think that the cheat codes are in the manual anways.
And they arent all that easy to find either. Especially since the console got taken out. You can check this list.
http://www.dom3minions.com/docs/CommandLine.txt

HoneyBadger
January 13th, 2007, 05:50 PM
In the Chinese version it's a picture of an river demon instead of an Umbral, and then a picture of an Eater of the Dead instead of a horror (I forget which one, but I don't think it was the Hunter of Heroes, and it definitely was a named horror), and then a picture of Gandalf instead of a picture of a Zyz (undead giant eagle) in the manual-which could have used more pictures overall (those are the only 3, aside from minor icons, as far as I can remember). Also, the fellow who wrote it doesn't reference a Civilization strategy guide as the ultimate strategy guide he wanted to emulate, but didn't know nearly as much about fantasy as the people who wrote the guide he references knew about history, he references Sun Tzu's the Art of War.

See? I really DID lose my manual! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

Agrajag
January 13th, 2007, 06:53 PM
Losing the Dom3 manual is a hanging offense. It is an act of Treason.

Iblis
January 13th, 2007, 08:11 PM
Haha, don't be afraid. :]
I mean that I am taking the disket back home with me.
Though if it will make you feel good I can take a Russian Copy online? Do they sell Russian copies? That'd really help with manual and understanding. :]

Thank you about the blessings! I kept thinking it was another 'drop-down' select, but, lo and behold, it wasn't!

Faenaris
January 14th, 2007, 07:55 AM
I have a question regarding the manual:

It is "spiral bound" (or something like that), this means you have to flip the pages "overhead" instead of sideways like you do with a regular book?

Also, I don't know if any of you have ever read the Krush Kill and Destroy manuals, but those were written with truly fantastic humor. Is there "humor" in this manual, will I chuckle when I flip through the pages? If it will ...

Blessed be the souls of Illwinter and their offspring for a thousand generations.

*goes back to his mail-watching post, eagerly awaiting his Dom3 package*

PhilD
January 14th, 2007, 08:24 AM
Faenaris said:
I have a question regarding the manual:

It is "spiral bound" (or something like that), this means you have to flip the pages "overhead" instead of sideways like you do with a regular book?




No, it means it's a plastic spiral holding it like a book. What this means is that the manual will lay perfectly flat when opened on any page, which, with a regular binding on a book of this page (300 pages), would not happen.

It doesn't "look" as nice as a regular binding, but it's way more convenient. And since the manual does hold a lot of useful information, that's a Good Thing.




Also, I don't know if any of you have ever read the Krush Kill and Destroy manuals, but those were written with truly fantastic humor. Is there "humor" in this manual, will I chuckle when I flip through the pages? If it will ...




From what I remember of my own reading, you won't chuckle when reading it. There is a little dry humor, but not that much.

Saxon
January 14th, 2007, 09:44 AM
But the spell that makes the mustard taste better does make me grin...

Faenaris
January 14th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Thanks for the reply, PhilD and Saxon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif