Gorgon as aSC?

[Xietor]

Petrify is fairly wicked. I was fooling around and made a gorgon with 8 earth, 10 dominion and set her loose. She destroyed everything. The petrify worked better than i expected. Not even sure the awe was needed.

Of course she does have low hp. I guess mr is the check used for petrify. Did not get to try her out against undead, so not sure if you can petrify them or not(doubt it).

I do think races with low mr, like ulm would be in trouble early on before they got stone statues and other mechanical beings that i assume would be immune.

[Wish]

you can petrify anything but the functionally blind (those that lost their eyes are not immune)

[KissBlade]

e9dom10 gorgons are pretty affordable in base. And yes, they are kickass SC chassis. =)

[mathusalem]

Awe is not really useful for the gorgon, but Astral is !
cast luck & Body Etheral, give her 2 shields and boots of Behemots and she can take indep 8 for breakfast

[Folket]

They you have to research a lot. better is just to get a dom10 gorgon and she will be able to take indep 9 since turn 1.

[Wish]

plus, 10 jade maidens a turn (sauromatia gets a gorgon)

[mathusalem]

alteration 3 is research a lot ? lol !

and an unit strike by Awe is not petrified

[Graeme Dice]

mathusalem said:
alteration 3 is research a lot ?



It's at least 8 turns in, so you might be dead or have your capital under siege by time you research it.


and an unit strike by Awe is not petrified



Completely incorrect. Awe has absolutely no effect on petfirication.

[Shovah32]

mathusalem said:
alteration 3 is research a lot ? lol !

and an unit strike by Awe is not petrified



Alteration 3 and whatever construction level you need. The astral magic is expensive, gives vunerability to magic duel and costs a fair amount of points and, with that many points put into an SC/expansion pretender like a gorgon you would probably want to use it before you would be able to with your plan.

I personally like e9n4 Gorgon, nice bless, great prot and gets really tough when you cast personal regen(too bad you cant get a gorgon for niefelheim http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif)

Ive also experimented with an e9w9n4 gorgon for pangaea. It wasnt worth the cost imo but my sacreds were incredibly tough and the actual pretender... Amazing(great prot and defence, full slots, natural pertrification, ability to buff with regen, quickness, protection and reinvig, fear and just general kickassery)

[mathusalem]

Graeme Dice said:


and an unit strike by Awe is not petrified



Completely incorrect. Awe has absolutely no effect on petfirication.





Petrification occured when someone strike (even if he miss) but awe prevent someone to strike

someone awed can try to strike another turn

So
1°) Awe
2°) Strike
3°) Petrification

[Graeme Dice]

mathusalem said:
Petrification occured when someone strike (even if he miss) but awe prevent someone to strike



Except that it doesn't work that way in the game. Units will attack, flash brightly indicating that they failed their awe check, then take 999 damage and die. What you are seeing is the result of the MR check. The unit will only die about 50-55% of the time with a MR of 10.

[Nick_K]

Does Awe function like this with other damage shields or just petrification? Is this WAD?

[mivayan]

Nick_K said:
Does Awe function like this with other damage shields or just petrification? Is this WAD?


Fire shield only hurts a unit after it attacks. So an awe check means no fire damage. iirc in dom1 the attack didn't happen if the fireshield killed the unit, but that was changed in dom2.

WAD=working as designed. It surprised me, but themtically either check just requires looking closely at the gorgon.

[Nick_K]

I guess that's true. Maybe I'll go forge me an Aegis

[Potatoman]

Awe also works well with the Eye Shield.

[DrPraetorious]

Most of the nations that want a Gorgon can't get one. Nifelheim obviously shouldn't be allowed to have one (although an awake SC god plus an E9N4 blessing would be... entertaining,) but there are others who should.

Arcoscephale! I'm *expletive deleted* Greece and I can't worship a medusa? This will not stand.

Oh, she's out in the woods *expletive deleted* bunnies with the other, fun-loving greeks? Screw that. Put a toga on her, give her a stylus or a scroll or something, she's a Goddess of wisdom and knowledge. A Goddess of the kind of knowledge that you DO NOT *EXPLETIVE DELETED* WITH IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU!

/rant

[Xietor]

Getting haunted forest up and sending in the Gorgon is pretty darn sweet. Of course haunted forest is awesome anyway.

[Ferrosol]

DrPraetorious said:
Most of the nations that want a Gorgon can't get one. Nifelheim obviously shouldn't be allowed to have one (although an awake SC god plus an E9N4 blessing would be... entertaining,) but there are others who should.

Arcoscephale! I'm *expletive deleted* Greece and I can't worship a medusa? This will not stand.

Oh, she's out in the woods *expletive deleted* bunnies with the other, fun-loving greeks? Screw that. Put a toga on her, give her a stylus or a scroll or something, she's a Goddess of wisdom and knowledge. A Goddess of the kind of knowledge that you DO NOT *EXPLETIVE DELETED* WITH IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU!

/rant



Dear sir i found your arguement most subtle and enlightening do you perhaps have a newsletter to which i may subscribe?

[lch]

The Gorgon stems from greek mythology, that's right, but so do most of Pangea's units: Pan, Centaurs, Satyrs, Minotaurs, etc.

The civilised part of greek mythology seems to have become Arcoscephale, while the chaotic wild life, the monsters and fables, have become Pangea. As such, I see no problem that something that the greek saw only as witches and monsters cannot be a pretender of Arco, but only of Pangea.