Mana Burn: Accelerated EA [ LoloMo WINS!!! ]

[Ironhawk]

Following on the success of the last accelerated game, we are having another! If you are looking to skip the early-game and jump straight into the action then this game is for you. With the additional strength of EA mages we are sure to see some even more awesome firepower produced!

Server:
IP: 24.18.113.45
Port: 7501

Age: Early Age

Map: Random. 12-15 provs per player. No Water.

House Rules
1) No dual-blessing. Max of one level 9 bless.
2) All nations will be given 10 sages at thier capital to simulate the research-base of a normal game
3) Initial 3-turn cease-fire. No nation can launch any attacks till turn 3.

Settings:
Starting Provs: 9
Indy Strength: 9
Magic Sites: 75
Gold Mult: 150%
Resource Mult: 150%
Graphs: On
Hall of Fame: 15
Research: Easy
Renaming: On

Victory Conditions:
Capital VPs Only
4 VPs to win

Mods:
Conceptual Balance 1.0
Worthy Heroes 1.6

Hosting Schedule: 24hr Quickhost

Players
1. Ironhawk - Maverni
2. Boron - Mictlan
3. Rathar - Agartha
4. GameExtremist - Arco
5. Kydorias - Kailasa
6. KissBlade - Yomi
7. Folket - Ermor
8. Msew - Lanka
9. FAJ - C'Tis
10. Malthus - Neifelheim (previously Solo)
11. Teraswaerto - Abysia
12. StrictlyRockers - Vanheim
13. LoloMo - Pangaea
14. PashaDawg - Sauromatia
15. QuantumMechani - Ulm

Backup Players
Morkilus
Peregrine42

[Ironhawk]

I'm going to go with Maverni. I was sorely tempted to take Kailasa since they are ... basically better in every possible way http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif But for some reason I just dig Marveni. I'm sure I will live to regret it.

I've also reserved Mictlan for Boron because he had to go to sleep and was insistent about playing it.

[Rathar]

For no good reason I desire Agartha please.

Rathar

I think there should be some small water perhaps. It did make for interesting strategy last game I admit.

[Peregrine42]

Thanks for hosting Ironhawk. I'd like to give T'ien Ch'i a shot.

[GameExtremist]

Yarr!

Put me down for Arco again....I'd like to see the differences between LA and EA....(crosses fingers not to start next to Caelum)...

[Kydorias]

I'd like to give Kailasa a shot...

Hope to not get triple teamed again right in the beginning!! Hehehe...

[KissBlade]

Yomi.

[Teraswaerto]

Is there room? I'd like to join as Abysia.

[StrictlyRockers]

Vanheim please.

[msew]

lanka wanka

[Folket]

So no attacks on ind before turn 4? Or are all provinces taken from the start?

I'll like to play Ermor.

[Boron]

Ironhawk said:
I've also reserved Mictlan for Boron because he had to go to sleep and was insistent about playing it.


Thanks for reserving them, i might be too masochistic but i just always liked mictlan http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif.

[FAJ]

Is there room left for me?

I got on the forums as soon as I woke up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

[calmon]

I've to step back from this one. 24 hours are to stressful in moment. I'll try to join the follower.

Have fun all! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[LoloMo]

Hi, I would like to join as Pangea if there is still room

[solo]

Niefelheim for me if there is room left.

[Morkilus]

Is Abysia open?

[Ironhawk]

FAJ and Mork there are definitely spots for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mork: Aby is not open, no. Perhaps you could bargain with Teraswaerto for it tho?

Looks like we have a pretty solid player lineup. Everyone beging working on your pretenders. Do recall that its extremely dangerous to have a dormant/asleep pretender in this game! Some nations learned that the hard way http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[FAJ]

What nations are left?

Pencil me in for Caelum.

[Ironhawk]

No need to ask - I update the first post in the thread every time a player asks for a nation. So just peek up there. You are now slotted for Caelum.

[Morkilus]

Alright, C'tis me, you fool!

[PashaDawg]

Hmm. No one playing Sauromatia yet? May I snatch that slot?

[Ironhawk]

PASHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Happy to finally be in a game with you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


Also we should be welcoming Boron back from his dom3 hiatus. Hopefully this game will lure him back into more!

[Ironhawk]

Ok, I think we have more than enough players to call this game full. I was really pleasantly surprised at the response this got - we had 15 players in less than 12 hours of the thread going up! Should be a pretty rocking game.

I've set VP win requirement to 4VPs due to the number of players.

Everyone get to work on your pretenders, I will have the server up tonight and lets try and shoot for having all pretenders in by midnight on Sunday

[mivayan]

I'm not in this game, but here's some random observations from the last.

A little production scale might be nice with just one castle and income from many provinces (150% prod and gold more or less cancel each other out).

Figure out how to rock the battlefield with mages. A SC pretender wont win the game alone.

I lost only three sages to my death3 scale during the whole game... it was over before late winter, year three. But perhaps I got lucky.

[msew]

As abysia I lost most all of my sages near the middle end of the game.

I had death 2 scales

[FAJ]

Burden of time enfluences that, no?

[mivayan]

Yeah, but burden of time came after the second late winter age check. I think.

[LoloMo]

Just to check, when you say double bless is restricted, does that mean you can't have 2 paths that are 4 or above?

[mivayan]

It means you cant have two paths that are 9 or above. Fire9+Water9 is not okay. Fire9+water8+nature8 is okay but probably not worth it.

[LoloMo]

Thanks! One more question, how much research does a sage produce? I'm looking through the unit stats and I can't seem to find the sage unit. What nation normally recruits it?

[LoloMo]

nevermind, I found it, they have research 4 and astral 1 =)

[StrictlyRockers]

Does no attacks for three turns mean no attacks on fellow players or no attacks on independents as well?

[mivayan]

LoloMo said:
nevermind, I found it, they have research 4 and astral 1 =)


Note that the 4 is their *bonus* compared to other mages with a single magic pick, each sage gives 7 research.

[Ironhawk]

A good measure of sage research is this: With all your sages working together you will get to about level 4 in a single school before the cease-fire is up. That should give you a strong starting positin if you plan your strategy well.

As for attacks: it means attacks of any kind. You cannot attack other players or indy provs.

[Rathar]

The peace for 3 turns means no attacks of any kind during the first 3 turns. Turn four is open to combats of all kinds.

Rathar

Edit darn you Ironhawk! 5 seconds..

[Boron]

Does the gametitle refer to MTG? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Peregrine42]

Unfortunately, I am going to have to withdraw from this one. real life has intruded and I cannot commit to another game at this time. I apologize for the inconvenience - really wanted to play in this one... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Morkilus]

I won't be able to upload until late Sunday if the game doesn't start in the next couple hours. So I guess drop me if it's too late.

[FAJ]

If Morkilus cannot play, I would like to take C'tis.

[Morkilus]

Now that I think about it, you can have it, FAJ. I'm gonna be out of town next week anyway, and getting a sub isn't worth it.

[Ironhawk]

Sorry to lose you Mork and Peregrine - I'll put you guys on the backup players list in case someone needs a sub.

[Ironhawk]

Ok, the server is ready for uploads.

Make sure you have the correct mods loaded before you create your pretender

IP: 24.18.113.45
Port: 7501

[quantum_mechani]

I'll take one of the empty slots as Ulm if it's alright.

[Ironhawk]

Hey, QM! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Of course you can have a slot. Always welcome!

[StrictlyRockers]

Vanheim pretender "Thorinwode" uploaded.

[solo]

The server appears to be down.

[Ironhawk]

I think someone mistakenly hit "start game". Let me fix it...

Ok, it should be back up now and the start button shouldnt be visible anymore. But for the record if you ever see a "start game" button during pretender upload - dont touch it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Thats only for the server admin.

[StrictlyRockers]

Doh!

[PashaDawg]

When is the game anticipated to start, just so I will be watching for it?

[Ironhawk]

Well, everyone has uploaded except for Msew (Lanka). Once he gets his pretender in I will start the game. So sometime tonight, hopefully....

Oh! Wait I have to send the map off to a third party to have the sages added. Sheap will do that for us pretty quick but I havent seen him online yet today.

Soooo... I guess hopefuly tonight but if not that, tomorrow night for sure.

[PashaDawg]

Thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Folket]

I do not like that Flamen have been removed by mistake from EA Ermor. Could someone who knows moding make a hotfix?

[msew]

soonish!

all pretenders are in and the map is being made atm I believe

[msew]

hahaha 15 people!!! it is going to be madness

[Ironhawk]

Looks like sheap fell asleep last night w/o working on the map. I will get on top of him to produce it tonight. Keep your fingers crossed.

[PashaDawg]

Feed him some fresh grass and oats!

[Folket]

So no one cares about the Flamen?

[Rathar]

Hope we have regular mountains and not just border ones or no caves for me I hear!

Rathar

I know nothing of flamen so can't help ya!

[Ironhawk]

Folket said:
So no one cares about the Flamen?



I dont even know what it is? Does it cripple ermor? Do you want to switch to another nation?

[quantum_mechani]

It's a small bug with CB 1.00, Ermor EA is missing one of thier minor mages. It's not really crippling but I can see why it would annoy someone playing the nation a lot.

[msew]

Does CB have a bug with lanka missing tarrasques? ^^

[quantum_mechani]

msew said:
Does CB have a bug with lanka missing tarrasques? ^^

No it does not. In fact it wouldn't really be possible to mod a general spell away from a particular nation without removeing it from almost every nation.

[FAJ]

I belive it was said in jest, insinuating that lanka should be able to recruit them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sheap]

I am doing the map now so game should be up in an hour or two. Sorry couldn't do it last night I was out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ironhawk]

Ok guys, server is up

Game On!!

Good luck to all. Looks like its going to be a wild ride http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Remember - no attacks of any kind for 3 turns!

[GameExtremist]

okay...first turn ....done.

Should be good game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[msew]

hah yeah in jest. but we all know the happy lovey dovey TTARRRRRAAAAASSSQQUUEEESSSS need a home too.

we at the lanka foundation offer them a home with open arms.

[StrictlyRockers]

Looks like an intersting set up.

first turn in

[Folket]

Flamen are useful for Ermor as it gives access to nature and earth. Lossing two paths of magic I would say is a concern.

[Rathar]

Ouch!

I have to agree with you there although if ( I havent played Ea Ermor cb or not) they are of only lvl 1 value it won't be a huge loss as they aren't able to cast site searching spells.

This game wont last long enough to empower I can tell you that!

If thats the case I guess you get a free "If only I had X thing/situation/combination" I woulda won card. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Rathar

[Folket]

they are only lvl 1, but that is good enough for site searching and getting some income.

[Folket]

I still have hope that my ladder will get going, how about we add this game to the ladder?

Once a couple of games are up there perhaps people will add more of their games. Perhaps it will even become standard to put your games there and people will see their game history.

http://wikihost.org/wikis/dom_ladder/wiki/start

[solo]

Server seems to be down again.

[Boron]

can't connect neither http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Folket]

It was QM who downloaded the map with his terrible connection.

[Ironhawk]

Ok, since it seems like most people have played their turns, I've turned the turn-timer on. Clock is now ticking! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[KissBlade]

Just to make sure, the ceasefire applies to attacking indie provinces as well, yes?

[StrictlyRockers]

Yes.

[PashaDawg]

Is Kydorias aware that the game has started? I would hate for him to stale his first turn (5 hours left).

[Kydorias]

Ugh, Mom dropped in completely unannounced yesterday afternoon and is staying the week. I couldn't do my turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif I'm very disappointed that I had to stale my first turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[LoloMo]

hmm, don't you have 30 mins more before the time limit?

[Ironhawk]

Missing the first turn in a game like this isnt as bad as it might be in another game. You already have your starting provs and you can easily catch up in troop production due to all the gold and resources. The key loss is not getting to build a mage and do your research. The research is really rough given that we all have sages.

That said it is really disappointing to see someone stale in thier first turn of the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Kydorias]

LoloMo said:
hmm, don't you have 30 mins more before the time limit?

Unfortunately I was already at work. I'll be ok from now on, just the completely unexpected dropping by of my mom completely killed all my plans for one day.

Still sucks that I missed the first turn, bleh.

[Rathar]

Well, in the last game you had 3 people jump on you immediately and whipped em all so this time the universe thought to make it a teeny bit harder! nod nod!

Rathar

[Ironhawk]

Hehehehe. In that case tho, he was propped up by the EVIL ERMOR!!!

[Ironhawk]

I've been asked two times now so I just want to clarify:

You cannot launch attacks this turn.

You have to wait until the next turn generates, then you can begin fighting.

[StrictlyRockers]

So, can we make attacks this turn?

[StrictlyRockers]

hahahahaha

just kidding

[msew]

some burn please. more burn

[Teraswaerto]

So now we can give orders for attacks? Turn just processed.

[GameExtremist]

Well its currently turn 4 (as about 10 minutes ago) so yeah now is the turn to let slip the dogs of war /threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Injured.gif

[Ironhawk]

Solo PM'd me and said that he needs to leave the game immediately due to a family illness. If anyone knows of a sub that wants to step in, let me know.

[Ironhawk]

Opening the slot up to the public. Anyone who wants the Jotunheim position in this game, just let me know.

[Ironhawk]

Bumping the thread again. We really do need a sub for jot - I would hate to have to set him AI this early in the game :/

[msew]

I will take the jot position ^^

[Ironhawk]

Ha ha. We need someone who isnt already playing, of course. Maybe I should switch the text to "replacement needed".

[Malthus]

Ironhawk,

I've heard great things about the game and would love to join in. I'll also be happy to turn Jot. back over if Solo returns. I'll send a PM to you, as well.

[Ironhawk]

Good to hear http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I will send you the password once you get up to speed!

[Malthus]

Good to go and sent you a PM!

[Ironhawk]

Cool. Sent the password to you. Let me know when you finish your first turn successfully.

[Malthus]

Hey, everyone!

I'm in, but I'm pleading for mercy. Neif has had a few stale turns and could use a day to transition to its new regime!

[solo]

Malthus said:
Hey, everyone!

I'm in, but I'm pleading for mercy. Neif has had a few stale turns and could use a day to transition to its new regime!



Mant thanks for taking over. I'll PM you with my "winning"strategy for this game, since it sure won't be obvious!

solo

[StrictlyRockers]

Vanheim has declared war upon the cold-blooded, reptilian denizens of the southern regions. C'tis must answer for the criems and border incursions they have conducted against Vanheim...even if we are making it all up. False flag operations, or not, Vanheim declares war upon C'tis and we vow that we WILL find those weapons of mass destruction no matter how long it takes us to plant them.

Vanheim

[FAJ]

Darnit! Whenever I play C'tis I always get attacked unprovoked within the first year. Usually triple teamed. What is people's beef with C'tis?!

[Boron]

FAJ said:
Darnit! Whenever I play C'tis I always get attacked unprovoked within the first year. Usually triple teamed. What is people's beef with C'tis?!


Could be the Relief-Legacy from good old Dom2-Times http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[FAJ]

The city gaurd are assembled! We're in it for the long haul! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Ironhawk]

Heheheh. Looks like blood has been spilled! How long before the sharks start circling in?

[FAJ]

From past experiance? 2 turns.

If im lucky http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[msew]

Heh we should have all gang banged ermor last game.

[FAJ]

But lizards apparantly are a more satisfying crunch

[LoloMo]

He he Pangaea versus Ermor have the honor of drawing first blood. And first round goes to Pangaea!

[Ironhawk]

Whoa!!! Lizards on the warpath! Nice battle FAJ

[KissBlade]

Do furbolg fortresses normally not come with a fort? >_<

[PashaDawg]

Only when Yomi gets them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ironhawk]

Lost my net connection and had to reboot the server. Should be good now tho.

[quantum_mechani]

Not working for me.

[Ironhawk]

Give it another shot. My connection was acting really weird last night. At times it was solid and then at other times I thought it had gone out again, but it was just going REALLY SLOW.

[quantum_mechani]

Still seem to be having trouble.

[Ironhawk]

Clearly a Moose has chewed through your cable connection, Q http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Boron]

Can't seem to connect neither ;(

[Rathar]

I also have probs.

It hangs on "connecting to server"

Rathar

[Malthus]

<sigh>

I'm afraid I can't connect, either.

[FAJ]

same

[Ironhawk]

Its probably my router blocking access again. I will fix it when I get home. I will reboot the server too so everyone will have 24hr from the time when I restart the router.

[StrictlyRockers]

no workie

[Kydorias]

Whew. I thought I was going to stale. Server down actually works out for me, hehe.

[PashaDawg]

Yup. Can't connect.

[Ironhawk]

Ok, router fixed. Server restarted. We should be good to go. Timer set back to 24hr. Let me know if you have any more probs connecting

[Ironhawk]

Lack of complaints means everyone is connecting smoothly, yes?

[StrictlyRockers]

yes

[Malthus]

It's all good...

[msew]

Wow!!

Kailasa and Sauromatia hate each other SOO much they are sending their large armies into my lands to fight each other!

What animosity!

[PashaDawg]

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NEWS FLASH!!!

Pasha Babe, She Who Holds No Mirror, the Queen Witch Gorgon of the Pretenderate of United Sauromatia (P.U.S.), has authorized and directed the Great Witch King Council to spare no efforts to extinguish the Lankan Flame and rid the world of its fetid stench.

"It's simple and self-evident," said Nalaprezzor, 3rd Vice Witch Prince and Stamp Licker of P.U.S. "Lanka stinks! They intentionally and unjustifiably violated our sovereignty every time one of their foul demonic smoke clouds floated into our lands. Our people coughed! COUGHED!! We are grateful for Kailasa's partnership and are hopeful that this War of Lankan Aggression will end quickly. No doubt the Kailasan and Sauromatian troops will be welcomed as heroes."

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[Ironhawk]

Oh man. As if Kailasa needed any help defeating anyone? Hard times ahead for Lanka, I fear.

[FAJ]

wait, so Lanka will be double teamed before C'tis?

How unusual. Perhaps its a bug http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif.

[msew]

I would like help fixing the bug.

[Ironhawk]

Hahahah

Man alive - have you all looked at the province charts? Its total chaos!! Wars on all fronts. I have no concept of whats going on at all in the game-world anymore http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[msew]

kalissa and sauro scared to fight it seems. Just running around

[FAJ]

Marverni has bared its teeth to the Lizard kings!

SO BE IT!

[Ironhawk]

Yes... if "bared its teeth" means: Captured a province directly adjacent to its own capital.

[FAJ]

Well, you said before that you had planned on grabbing some land during the my conflict with the Van. I figured that maybe you were going through with that original plan.

If it were just a small grab for that one province I didn't think you would bring your god and 240+ soldiers. I am used to the situation being that if I am attacked without a message, that means war.

[Kydorias]

msew said:
kalissa and sauro scared to fight it seems. Just running around

More like dancing around your 500 troop army. I have to say that's quite a force you have there.

[msew]

Kydorias said:

msew said:
kalissa and sauro scared to fight it seems. Just running around

More like dancing around your 500 troop army. I have to say that's quite a force you have there.




If either of you want to give my lands back and pull your troops out that sounds like a nice resolution.

[FAJ]

Is this game being paused for easter?

[Ironhawk]

I hadnt planned on it, but if enough people would like me to pause the game I would certainly be willing.

[FAJ]

Ill probably have to stale twice if it isnt paused http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Rathar]

I am ok with a pause. Ok without one to.

Rathar

[PashaDawg]

A pause is fine with me, although I will celebrate Easter by playing Dominions. :-)

[StrictlyRockers]

Vanheim roars and thumps its chest. HAARRROOOOGGG!

[LoloMo]

Pause is fine with me too, but I will be doing the same as Pasha =)

[Rathar]

I think we should pause it. 12 hours to go and a considerable number haven't played their turns.

Oh and We cave dwellers (who are sadly only able to build one cave ever /playstinyviolin) announce our offensive drive versus Mictlan; via Vanheim, and C'tis.

Actually, We have no idea where Mictlan is but we know for CERTAIN that the best amd ONLY(!) way to stop their GLOBAL DOMINATION SCHEMES is to attack Vanheim immediately.

Rathar

[FAJ]

Just when I withdraw from his lands too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif.

Have fun. Watch out for the pheonix.

[Ironhawk]

Ack!!! I'm sorry I completely forgot about the pause request FAJ http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif My weekend was kind of hectic and I didnt even get back to the forums until just now.

If you like, I will delay my offensive a turn, to compensate for your staling? I really feel badly about forgetting.

[FAJ]

I only staled once or twice.

Its no big deal, you can keep on your offensive. I wasn't going to defend my lands anyways, only my castles. I lost a few mages to Vanheim when I could have avoided it, and I lost a province or two to Marverni and the van, but i will either recover or lose as if I hadnt staled, im sure.

[PashaDawg]

Ahhh!!!! Does that mean you did not pause the game??????

Eeeek! I assumed you did.

[Ironhawk]

Sorry, did not http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

As I said before I completely forgot. But that said, I would never pause the game without explicity stating so here in the thread (ie. "Server now paused until so-and-so"). So, always keep an eye out for a message to that effect here as it would be the rule.

[Ironhawk]

It is a sad day for the people of Marverni as the Earth Gem Crisis of '07 continues to rage unchecked through that earth-loving land. Rationing of earth gems has failed to curtail the severe shortage and the Druidic Council has become seriously concerned! To respond to the crisis, the Marverni government is now seeking international assitance. Any nation willing to trade earth gems should contact High Druid Invictus aka "The Badger" with an offer. We have many fire, air, and astral gems to barter.

[FAJ]

If you manage to wipe me out within 10 turns, Ill convert all my gems to earth and send them as spoils of war the turn before my demise.

Rush to the holds of C'tis! I want a good last epic battle at least! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[KissBlade]

Well I just can't stand by as Kailasa invades the rightful lands of Yomi! Especially the assassination of 4 good Onis.

[FAJ]

Does this mean I won't be triple teamed?

[Ironhawk]

Go, go, triple team powers!

[FAJ]

I am so angry with dominions right now i can't even explain it. Why don't my units EVER do what I script them to do? Instead they choose suicide. Is it a bug? My units TRY to die.

Why is it that in essentially every game I play, the computer chooses fire shield over what I script?

[Ironhawk]

I'm guessing we had a battle in this upcoming turn where your men cast fireshield, FAJ? I havent seen it yet but if so - I remember intentionally pulling my troop formations back to keep them out of your Falling Fires range. Perhaps it was just a range issue?

I can confirm when I get home and can look at my turn.

[FAJ]

I set him to cast fire storm. Your army was full of hp 10 prot <10 guys. it would have done huge damage. Instead he cast fire shield, got diseased and ran away.

He is fire 9 and had a ton of gems on him. The only reason i can think of him not casting it is to spite me.

[Kydorias]

KissBlade said:
Well I just can't stand by as Kailasa invades the rightful lands of Yomi! Especially the assassination of 4 good Onis.

Your point of view is truly skewed. Those fair lands were rightfully liberated by Kailasa from the foul clutches of Lanka. It is you who chose to once again blaspheme these lands with the foul, Demonic stench of your Dai Onis by chasing away my garrisons.

Now most of your Onis are gone, their damned souls banished away to drift with the winds.

--Mumbada, High Priest of Kailasa

[Ironhawk]

FAJ: I just looked at the battle and I am as confused as you. Are you 100% positive you had Firestorm scripted?

If you are then I cant think of any reason why he wouldnt cast it. The only conceivable rule that could be coming into play is the "battle too insignificant for gems" rule. But how could that be the case here with all my men and mages??

So odd. You definitely have every right to be enraged at dom3 right now.

[LoloMo]

One exclusive collector's edition Dwarven Hammer for sale! Handcrafted by the great Panethys himself. Tastefully inlaid with gold and platinum depictions of voluptous Maenads in all their wanton glory! Handle wrapped in luxurious purple velvet. It's almost too exquisite to use.

Price: 80 earth or nature gems in any combination.
Other gems or slaves may be substituted at 2:1 ratio for Astral, and 3:1 ratio for others (2 astral pearls equal 1 nature gem).

Remember, no price is too high for exclusivity!
No return no refunds, item sold as is where is, item may differ slightly in appearance from description. Please state what currency you will pay in. Item will be delivered on the turn payment was accepted.

[Ironhawk]

Surely you are joking?

If people are in that desperate need for hammers, I will forge them for you for only 20% over cost http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[FAJ]

I thought he meant the unique hammer, for 50%.

[quantum_mechani]

I'll sell hammers for 10% over forge price. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Rathar]

I err We err whatever own the unique hammer so no they didn't!

Big bonus hono(u)r points to Ulm for repaying a debt to Agartha despite the desperate straits they find themselves in. We had an agreement and when circumstances caused an inability to comply on their part they did their best to make things even despite their truly desperate situation/s.
Thanks!

Rathar

P.S. FAJ ow ow ow re phoenix..

[KissBlade]

Damn Kailasa, your misfortune costed me a good oni raider =(. "Let's raid into this undefended province ... attacked by necromancer's?! What'd you mean!"

[LoloMo]

But it's such a beautiful hammer! And the "Maenads' Abandon" carving is instructional too!

[Boron]

Accidently staled last turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

[Kydorias]

KissBlade said:
Damn Kailasa, your misfortune costed me a good oni raider =(. "Let's raid into this undefended province ... attacked by necromancer's?! What'd you mean!"

Yes, that quite amused me I have to admit http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[StrictlyRockers]

The noble Vanheimigian race of Vanirs sees the sun setting upon their glorious empire. The hated cave-dwellers have seized upon an opportunity to come through the back door.

Things are looking bleak for Vanheim, and also for the C'tis. We have worn ourselves out fighting in the early game, and now the vultures are swooping down on us both for easy pickings.

Alas and haroog, the Vanheimigians are scattering to the hills and their home fortress has fallen.

The king is dead! Long live the king!

[KissBlade]

StrictlyRockers said:
The noble Vanheimigian race of Vanirs sees the sun setting upon their glorious empire. The hated cave-dwellers have seized upon an opportunity to come through the back door.

Things are looking bleak for Vanheim, and also for the C'tis. We have worn ourselves out fighting in the early game, and now the vultures are swooping down on us both for easy pickings.

Alas and haroog, the Vanheimigians are scattering to the hills and their home fortress has fallen.

The king is dead! Long live the king!



I was wondering how that jump in provinces occured =).

[FAJ]

I took all my defenders off defend. Lets get this seige over with Marverni!

[Ironhawk]

Hahahah - but I just brought my gate cleavers to bear, FAJ!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ironhawk]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh man.

Neifelheim: you just signed your own death warrant! How can you not expect every player to immediately go to war with you??

[Malthus]

Yes - you all should probably wipe me out as Neifelheim now.

Since I would really like to play another game, I should point this out: This really isn't a strategy I would have chosen personally, but Solo constructed a Pretender/Domain/Strategy that was designed to cast these "un-neighborly" spells. So I've gone with it. Besides, I've never gotten to cast Astral Corruption before.

[Kydorias]

Neifelheim, if I had a presence close to your nation I would immediately move to crush your empire and stick your Blood Mages' heads on pikes outside your walls.

No matter, I still declare war on you.

--Mumbada, High Priest of Kailasa

[Malthus]

I've never actually cast Astral Corruption (or been in a game where it was cast), and I was dissapointed that I didn't get any messages concerning its results.

If anyone's willing to share, what did it do? Did the sky fill with Horrors? Did the spell pass unnoticed (save for the massive ritual sacrifice)? Did puppies at least whimper?

[StrictlyRockers]

horrors = bad

doubleplusungood

[FAJ]

Everytime a mage does something like cast a spell or forge an item, there is a chance of an attack. I had 9-10 sauromancers cast summons that turn and one was attacked by a lesser horror and died.

[PashaDawg]

EEEEEEEK!!!!

Dispel! Dispel!!! Please Dispel!

[Kydorias]

One of my more powerful mages was casting a powerful summons. The summoned creature arrived with a Horror who then proceeded to annhilate the summoner, his bodyguards, and several powerful magic items equipped by the summoner.

[LoloMo]

The nation of Pangaea pledges to match any public offer of astral gem donation to any honorable and reputable nation competent and confident enough to dispel these atrocious enchantments woven by the maniacal Giants.

Any information on the location of the Giants will also be appreciated.

[Malthus]

We are in the middle of the map - conveniently located for any and all invasion forces. All are welcome, although invading armies will not enjoy our famous late morning meal of tea and cookies.

[Ironhawk]

I had two mages summoning and one was attacked and killed. My best mage, no less!

This outrage will not stand!!! The nation of Marverni also declares war on the Niefelheim.

[Boron]

Hm i begin to become a fierce enemy of CB.
Why where the forging requirements for most or all boosters increased by 1 level e.g.?

[PashaDawg]

Hi Ironhawk:

We're having a big storm up here in New England, and I have no power or internet at home. Any chance you could put the quickhost on pause? I cannot play my turns.

The storm is supposed to die down by Tuesday afternoon.

I will try to play my turn tonight, just in case I have power, etc.

Pasha

[quantum_mechani]

Boron said:

Why where the forging requirements for most or all boosters increased by 1 level e.g.?

A very specific set of boosters- those IW forgot to bump up when they changed the rest of them for dom3. It's actually the last remnant of the attempt to diversify magic present in the early dom3 CB versions. But since by itself it doesn't do a lot I'm planning to remove it next version.

[FAJ]

Hey, Marverni, anyway I can bargain for my life? My lands Have a combined 67 income, and 6 gems. Do you really need to wipe me out? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

it was a cool battle though.

[Ironhawk]

Pasha: yeah I will turn quicktime off when I get home. Cross your fingers that I remember! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ironhawk]

FAJ said:
Hey, Marverni, anyway I can bargain for my life?



Nope, sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Yeah that battle went really poorly, but hey thats the way things go in capital assaults. The next attack will be far less rushed and far more deadly.

I do have to say tho that I'm getting really tired of Shadow Blast in general. This is the third game where my armies have been utterly destroyed by that spell. Its begining to look like Death is actually the best combat path, not Fire/Air/Earth. Very disappointing.

[FAJ]

Its powerful. It would certaintly be more powerful if I had any gem income http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif.

But, my prophet got about 50-60 kills scripted to cloud of death then 3 blasts <spells>. Ill pay 4 gems to do that any day. Death has proven less powerful than fire in my experiance, but fire doesn't benifit from cheap astral penetration items like Shadowblast does.

[Ironhawk]

Ugh, penetration items. Hadnt thought of that - nice!

[Rathar]

I am also curious about the effects of the giants impressive spray of global unfriendliness as I too have never seen them in action and so far I am unimpressed and wonder why the lot of you scream so much.

I have no doubt that the losses due to these spells has been greater but these losses are not publicized because of the fact that that is "sekret" info but I and no doubt others would love to hear some generalized stuff!

The agarthan's have had a Giant and his wolfpack kill off the PD of a region I had conquered and I had a demon slay off an indy commander plus some unrest but no horrors to speak of. Of course, we are all researching atm (hoping someone makes the bad mens go away, nod nod) so..

Anyways I would love more data to decide whether those spells are worth it or not and I am thinking not!

Rathar

Edit: New rank! Woot!

[Jurri]

Ironhawk said:
Pasha: yeah I will turn quicktime off when I get home. Cross your fingers that I remember! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Question: how will taking quickhost off make it any the more possible for the Dawg to take his turn in time, when he has no power?

Pasha did equip me with his password for the contingency that you wouldn't pause the game, so I suppose I'll do this turn for Sauromatia... But you should maybe put the game on quickhost-only until such force majeure reasons as storms have been dealt with http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ironhawk]

Sorry I meant the timer off.

Which, of course, I immediately forgot http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Uggh, curse my swiss cheese memory!! This is like the third time I've bungled it now.

Ok, I am writing it on my hand *right now* so that I cannot forget!

[Shovah32]

What if you pour some hot coffee on your hands and, while washing it off, remove the writing?

[Malthus]

Well, for a group of global enchantments that are supposed to be catastrophic, it seems that very little has happened.

Those blood slaves could have been put to far better use.

[Teraswaerto]

The effect of those enchantments is gradual. Since they use slaves and not gems they are very hard to dispel. I predict Niefelheim must be invaded and the caster killed, soon, if anyone other than Niefelheim wants any hope of winning.

Astral Corruption favors blood nations, and pretty much prevents new globals from being cast. Any nation that uses magic lots will suffer lots. Is there any nation that wont suffer at this point? Abysia has not invested much into blood, this global is not in our favor.

The Looming Hell makes it very hard to invade Niefelheim, as their lands have high dominion with heavy devil attacks.

Giants with bonus hit points? Come on, do I need to say more. Luckily, this can and must be dispelled. It is not a question of slaves vs gems, but gems vs gems.

[Ironhawk]

I'm all for invading niefelheim! Whoever fights them will get extra cash, gems, items, etc. Just let me know and I can set up a support plan.

Who neighbors them?

[StrictlyRockers]

Yomi, Vanheim and Agartha border Neifelheim to the south and east. Buy some scouts.

[Malthus]

Yes! Yes! If anyone invades Neifelheim, I'm totally there!

[Boron]

Hm i profit somewhat from Malthus globals, unfortunately too late though for me, i am slowly dying because i totally underestimated the power of those wind rider hordes.

200 wind riders are hard to deal with without having a normally for mictlan typical dual/triple bless http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[KissBlade]

Eh I'm pretty ambivalent about Niefel's summons. Worst is I can't make stuff for my onis. My income is slightly wracked by my growing upkeep expenses though ... Yomi's troops really are a tad overpriced when it comes to commanders.

[Ironhawk]

Timer is now turned off at Pasha's request.

Sorry about forgetting last turn Pasha! Hope your power comes back on soon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[GameExtremist]

Arco shares Neifelheim's western border.

For now we use our resources dealing with Mictlan who attacked without warning a number of turns ago. They have found that indeed massed wind warriors with the right bless and good protection spell can be very hard to defeat.

We will give gems to anyone who is willing to dispel the Giants globals.

[PashaDawg]

Hi:

I now have power but no internet, and it could take several days. I have sent a PM to Jurri asking him fill in for me for the time being.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

(I ran to the public library to send this.) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

[Ironhawk]

Ok, the timer is back in effect then, starting now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Boron]

In future games i won't attack Arco GE again as carelessly ;(.

Another victory for the Arcosians, though this time we at least inflicted some casualities and improved our loss-kill Ratio from 100:1 to ca. 10:1. So at least some success http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif.

[Ironhawk]

Chip, chip, chipping away at your armor, FAJ. How much longer can you survive?

I do have to say, tho, that Death Mages are probably the most irritating mage to try and pry out of a castle.

[FAJ]

You could beat me, i dont know why you keep sending in your forces half assed. Are you sending everything else to the jotuns?

My lower caslte has like, 6-7 mages and 2 infantry. Im sure you can manage to take it. My capital doesn't have much more.

if you dont kill me soon ill have to alchemize my gems to death gems and you wont get any spoils of war!

[LoloMo]

The Nation of Pangaea will attempt to replace the Giant's Gift of Health with one of its own.

[Rathar]

A few more horror attacks for me and another giant raid but the globals still seem somewhat weak. Last game Ermor cast 4 thematic globals and it was game over for us all. Shrug.

Rathar

[PashaDawg]

I am back!

Thank you to Jurri for filling in for me.

[Ironhawk]

Nah, you underestimate your power, FAJ. My first attack on your capital clearly showed how brutal Shadow Blast / Clouds of Death are. Sending my men in without a plan would be committing suicide (twice!). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Fear not, the assault crew is on the way.

As for the attack at the southern fort, that was a cheap shot to see if I could take it. If my mages hadnt run out of spell script they'd have killed all your sauro's and I'd have won. It was worth trying.

[FAJ]

Lucky you, Im gonna be away for the weekend. I won;t ask for a pause of game because I have like, 2-3 provinces left.

Ill set myself AI after this turn.

[LoloMo]

Grrrrr, 2 of my best equipped mages just got eaten by horrors. That was a really costly dispel on the Gift of Health. Theoseus and Uranotheus, your sacrifices will not be in vain!

[StrictlyRockers]

Vanheim is no more. Agartha has snuffed the final candle of the Vanir empire.

The king is dead! Long live the king!

SR

[Ironhawk]

I am soooooooooooooooo f-ing tired of Shadow Blast http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[FAJ]

did the AI script that too? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif:D:D

gogo shadow-blasting prophet!

last accelerated start game I took huge death on my god and filled him with pen items for it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif. He also had the generate 2 death gems a turn trait http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

[Ironhawk]

Oh, heh look at that. Actually I lost because you *didnt* cast shadow blast in this case http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I put all my chaff out front and then your AI didnt kill them so they plugged up the gate trying to rout. Sigh. I'm done with this excuse for a war, im going to preach the rest of CTis out

[Teraswaerto]

So, is anyone but me fighting Niefelheim at this point?

[Ironhawk]

I didnt even know you were? You should PM me and I will send you money and gems!

[Teraswaerto]

For a few turns now.

[GameExtremist]

Is Neifel at war with Agartha too?

[Boron]

For future games i request to not place capitols in forest provinces. I am defenseless vs. getting abused with beckoning.

34 units disappeared, among them a 101 blood expensive Onaqui http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

[Boron]

Hm the game seems to have crashed when it tried to host after i submitted my turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif.
At least it seems i cannot connect anymore http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

[Ironhawk]

Yeah its down. I got the "old version" crash message when I checked it this morning.

Boron, I removed your turn submission and the server was able to start again. Did you re-install and forget to upgrade to 3.06? The server is back up now. Make sure you have the right version and then re-do you turn.

[Boron]

Hm i have 3.07 test candidate, thought that patches are compatible downwards and only give slightly false battle replays worst case.

[Ironhawk]

That must be what it is. No, dominions 3 does this stupid thing where it crashes the server (not the client!!!) when there is a version mismatch. Apparently that was not fixed in the 3.07 client. Anyway, just use your old version - please dont try and connect with the new one now, I'm at work and will not be able to restart the server.

[Boron]

Ok installed a 3.06 copy. Sorry for all the trouble, seems my memory was either wrong or it was changed for Dom3. From old Dom2-times i remember that it worked to play e.g. a 2.12 game with a 2.14 patched Dom, it only lead to wrong battle replays sometimes.

Doing my turn now and everything should work again.

[Ironhawk]

Yeah in dom2 the versions were backwards compatible to some extent. But in dom3 they just crash the server. Really dont like that.

[KissBlade]

Aren't witches suppose to have a healing ability? Also any who died wanna try their hand at using Yomi? I have WoW and between that and exams, this game is seriously getting lackluster. The position's pretty easy to defend considering I have fortresses at almost every province (had no other real use since Yomi's troops are pretty poor) Not at war with anyone but message me before I submit this turn or post here!

[Kydorias]

Wow, never seen Kirgi Slave to Unreason before. That is one mean Horror.

[KissBlade]

screenshot???

[Teraswaerto]

Looks like Niefel giants make pretty pretty torches when you hit them with a Pillar of Fire. In other news, Soul Slay will kill even a Doom Horror with some luck.

[Kydorias]

KissBlade said:
screenshot???

Darnit, I should have. Sorry. But I'm sure I'll see him again. Mumbada has drawn the wrath of Eater of Gods and now Kurgi.

[Rathar]

Kurgi just ate Rathar. Immortal=good..

Rathar

[Sheap]

Having the capital in a forest is supposed to be an advantage, because you get so many extra resources, and it automatically turns what is normally a low-income province into a very high income one. By the time you are facing beckoning, having your capital bombarded with artillery spells is just a fact of life. Would you rather have it on a coastline and get pelted with hurricanes? Beckoning is level 6, and at that same tech level, dome spells are available.

[KissBlade]

Oh yeah, I forget to add. Another note for whoever is subbing for me, the dai onis to the northern defenses are to be scripted with resist fire in their script as well. I'm not sure if they're already scripted with them or not. Too lazy to check. =\

[Ironhawk]

We need a sub for Yomi. Anyone interested should PM me. Pass along the invite if you know a friend who might be up for it. I would hate to have a power vacuum at this point in the game.

[PashaDawg]

Bah, Ironhawk! We should just let Yomi go AI. Then you and I and Kailasa can carve them up! Sort of like the Ottoman Empire after WW1.

Pasha

[Ironhawk]

Hahhahah! Yomi == The sick man of ManaBurn.

Sadly I cant even carve up the AI remains of CTis, I dont think I'm going to be much use against an ai Yomi

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif