Wpn 009 - SVD - Russia

[Epoletov_SPR]

Sniper Rifle Dragunov-a -- accuracy = 15. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Sniper Rifle - accuracy = 30 (Wpn 001).

Please, explain why so it is made?

Has looked in others obat (Poland), there it is made 30. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[thatguy96]

I would agree with it being 15 and the sniper rifle being 30. Its was never intended as anything but a squad designated marksman rifle to extend the reach of infantry out to 600 meters. It was neither designed to be a precision long-range fire-arm nor largely employed as such. The Russian Army to this day has a number of weapons better suited to that task than the SVD.

[pdoktar]

I think this hasn´t been corrected to 30 when other generic sniper rifles were with ver 3.0. There weer inconsistencies before with sniper rifles, some oobs had acc. 15 and some 30. Now they all should be 30, if its not a special case weapon.

[DRG]

It was missed the last time. Now fixed for v3.5

Don

[Epoletov_SPR]

Range = 25 ( 1250 m) ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[DRG]

I assume when this was first entered into the OOB's this weapon was thought to be a specialized sniper weapon becasue that's the way it's been set up and used. Give me the name of one that is and I will change it

Don

[Epoletov_SPR]

Rus web page + Photo (http://www.spec-naz.org/weapons/sniper/htm/SVD.htm)

As a matter of fact SVD is not a "traditional" sniper rifle - its basic purpose - to increase range of effective fire motor-shooting section up to 600 m, to provide necessary shooting support (to suppress crew a machine gun, etc.) Unlike overwhelming majority of sniper rifles of the world, SVD the bayonet-knife is completed.


SVD it was widely used practically in all fighting operations spent by the Soviet and Russian armies from the moment of its acceptance on arms, and has proved to be sample of a small arms exclusively reliable and convenient in circulation. It is necessary to note, that in armies of some countries of NATO also there is a concept of " the weapon of support of the raised accuracy of shooting ". So, in armies of Germany and some other countries as "equivalent" SVD autoloading rifle G3A3/SG is used, in Sea Infantry of the USA are accepted on arms DMR - Designated Marksman rifles, representing or simply rifle M16A2 with an optical sight, or autoloading rifle SR-25 under a cartridge of NATO of 7.62 mm.

Range -- 600 m = 12 hexes.

[Smersh]

There is a difference between max range and effective range.

[Epoletov_SPR]

Max range - 1300 m.

Rus web page (http://www.rustrana.ru/article.php?nid=7832&sq=19,27,64,80,653&crypt=)

http://worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/svd/svd_02.jpg

[Epoletov_SPR]

I offer Range=15.
Also as well as at Sniper Rifle.
To hit the mark or suppression unit from SVD it is possible.

[mr_clark]

Hmm, but doesn't range figure into the accuracy as well? I guess the SVD shoukld be as accurate on the closer ranges its used on as the other sniper rifles.

[Epoletov_SPR]

Rus web page (http://www.army.lv/?s=125&id=39)

However accuracy SVD is already insufficient for the decision of some sniper problems. So, modern requirements to the sniper weapon assume a deviation of hits no more than one angular minute. For range of 1000 m it makes 290 mm, for 500 m - 145 mm, 100 m - 29 mm. Meanwhile for SVD these figures are equal according to 480-560 mm, 188 mm and 36 mm.

To make Range = 15, Accuracy = 25 (for example).

[Epoletov_SPR]

Whether probably to exclude from the list of weapon " SVD "?
As on many parameters it is similar " Wpn001 - Sniper Rifle ".
In exchange to receive other necessary weapon.

For example, heavy sniper rifle B-94.

Rus web page (http://worldweapon.ru/strelok/v94.php)

2 Rus web page (http://http://hand-gun.narod.ru/vint/b94.htm)

http://worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/v94/v94_05.jpg

http://www.sudden-strike.ru/upload/iblock/3fd/01.jpg

[PlasmaKrab]

Not 100% sure about it, but I would say that weapon 001 "sniper rifle" is more meant to represent the older Mosin-Nagant Model 1891-30 and similar (post-war SVT rifles?). In the same way, it can represent post-90s bolt-action sniper rifles like the SV-98, if this one entered service.

[mr_clark]

Epoletov_SPR gives a good point though. Is it planned in one of the following versions to include Russian heavy sniper rifles?

[Epoletov_SPR]

If it is impossible to remove SVD, then please increase " Rate of Fire " divisions = " Sniper Team, Sniper and etc. ".

As SVD as well as SVT - an automatic rifle. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
Accuracy, for example = 25 %, Range = 12-15.

[DRG]

mr_clark said:
Epoletov_SPR gives a good point though. Is it planned in one of the following versions to include Russian heavy sniper rifles?



Have you looked at the Russian weapons list lately ? Which weapon should I remove to include that ? The "SVD" has been removed from all "sniper" units and is now included with various infantry units as a squad weapon which, as has been stated here, was it's actual usage. All "snipers" use a "sniper rifle".

Don

[KraMax]

DRG
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SVD - standard sniper rifle in Russian army. Any other shiper rifle have in Russian army - low quantity.

I do not agree with Epoletov_SPR - I think that - this sniper rifle needs to be left. SVD - it was developed for a long time - and this rifle is older than modern standards for for modern rifles. So it turns out that when this rifle only have launched in a batch production - it quite met the requirements of sniper rifles for that moment of time up to 1000 meters. And in modern conditions - this rifle keeps within modern specifications - only on distance of 600 meters. It turns out that automatic sniper rifle SVD - can strike on distance of 1000 meters a target about human growth with a deviation 560mm - it enough to kill for example the person or to get in the car. All my words confirm links with the description of this rifle - which has given you Epoletov_SPR. Also SVD - can conduct sniper fire very quickly since is an automatic sniper rifle. But I so understand in game of this we cannot make - but I suspect accuracy of the characteristic it should influence.

[Epoletov_SPR]

Has looked WinSPMBT 3.0.

Now in divisions of infantry - " Dragunov SVD ".

I suggest to clean SVD as duplicating Wpn001 " Sniper Rifle " and to add instead of it " Heavy sniper rifle ".

If "SVD" it will be left, then for taking into account of its rate of fire I suggest to increase parameter Kill.

[DRG]

A "sniper Rifle" in THIS game is a specialized sniper rifle. It really is not the least bit important what the name of it is or whether it's bolt action of semi-automatic. As has been noted the SVD was introduced to give squads a longer reach. The "Snipers" now all have "Sniper rifles" and you can think of that by whatever name you like. The SVD is now set up to be used by some infantry units. If you want to think of some of the "Sniper rifles" as being SVD's that's OK

Don

[Epoletov_SPR]

We have simultaneously written messages, is possible you have not noticed mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Whether clearly, probably to remove SVD from WinSPMBT and to give instead of it " Heavy sniper rifle "? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[DRG]

Yes, I saw your message, I read it and then I decided to do something else. You cannot simply switch weapons once they are established in the OOB

Don