Lanka is too strong.

[jimkehn]

Lanka is too strong.

[Baalz]

Well, can't find a flaw in your logic there, but I will try and play the devils advocate to see if I can make a credible counter case.

No they're not.

[jimkehn]

HAHAHAHA

[FAJ]

Your suggesting that a high bless benifits Lanka improportionally well?

Isn't Lanka very susceptible to battle magic due to their high cost and low armor? and archers? And they have supply problems where their gluttons get diseased and don't heal?

[Teraswaerto]

I guess the problem is strong units + strong blood magic. Not an expert on Lanka by any means though.

[Shovah32]

They have good magic access, great researchers, good blood hunters, strong military, great sacreds and very powerful national summons.

[DrPraetorious]

Certainly no-one would argue that Lanka is too weak.

They might be too strong on paper, or according to some theoretical or conceptual model you might have. However, I have yet to see Lanka really dominant in MP (unlike, say, Niefelheim.)

Lanka appears to be better than Niefelheim - their sacreds aren't as huge, but they're clearly a better deal per $, and you can buy them anywhere. Lanka's magic is approximately equal to Niefelheim's magic - Air instead of Water, and no astral.

Nonetheless, Lanka does not dominate like Niefelheim does.

[Baalz]

Yeah, I haven't played Lanka extensively, but the times I did what I ran into that kept them from being overpowered was the opportunity cost of things. They've got a lot of great stuff, but it's all so expensive that you have to choose which path to specialize in, trying to do it all and you just can't do any of it well.

These are all, to a certain extent, mutually exclusive:
Lots of tough sacreds
Strong blood hunting
Lots of strong mages
Reanimating hoards of undead

Lank is very versatile, but what out of that list doesn't somebody else do at least as well? What's a killer strategy with Lanka that makes them overpowered?

[Novi]

Erm... Lanka? Are you talking about some kind of a mod?

[Shovah32]

Maybe not early game but i would say they have a much stronger late game(their national blood summons being better SCs than jarls ect) than their giant rivals.

[Nick_K]

Lanka is a new nation that was added in one of the patches. If you haven't done so already you should upgrade to the latest patch. If you have, you'll find them in the early era

[Edi]

Novi said:
Erm... Lanka? Are you talking about some kind of a mod?


What patch are you running? Lanka is an early era nation that was added in a patch.

[Ironhawk]

Cant lanka national troops be banished, too? Thats a pretty big weakness.

[Shovah32]

Most of their sacreds can although their MR isnt particularly low iirc(they also have good health) but they do have a very slightly weaker, 50 gold living sacred who also gets a helmet as a bonus but is prone to starving.

[Meglobob]

jimkehn said:
Lanka is too strong.



No they are not, seconded.

[Shovah32]

I dont think they are too strong but they are among the stronger EA nations.

[FAJ]

I think that their sacreds vulnerability to magic is balanced in EA.

No necessarily vulnerable mind you, just not particularly resilient to magic considering the cost and supply etc.

[jimkehn]

I've been enjoying the comments. Maybe I'm just too inexperienced at fighting them. However, in playing Lanka SP, I ran all over the other nations. Led me to believe they are too strong. Maybe I have learned the game more than at first and that is why they appear too strong in SP, and in the MP games I am in, the Lanka player has more experience than I.

[K]

Wow, I was just in the middle of a big long post about how weak Lanka really was and I was pointing out all of its weaknesses, but then I realized that you are my Abysian opponent in my Lanka game. Lol!

Send me a message after the game and I'll tell you how to beat Lanka. I've played Lanka alot in SP, so I'm well versed in its strengths and weaknesses.

[jimkehn]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Yeah, but it's been fun, eh K?? Most of those battles, I was totally unsure of until one or the other of us ran for the tall grass. Some I've won, and some you've won. Some even went down to like....4 or 5 men on a side!!!!!

It has been an enjoyable game. Love the map!!

[HoneyBadger]

for a man,

but made for a woman.

I really think they're relatively balanced. Strong for SP due to their having lots of neat little tricks and strengths a human can get the best out of, but in multi-player, I doubt they'd dominate an equally experienced player who had a pick of other nations.

[mac5732]

One must always hope for a strong AI nation in SP play, hopefully the AI will learn to use them better and use their specialty units and spellsmore http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

a strong AI in sp play makes for an interesting game instead of easy victories for a human player vs ai

I'm one who does not like to see a strong ai weakened in a SP game, makes for a boring game otherwise.... imho