Battling Ancient Rabid Kahunas (BARK) - JURRI WINS

[PashaDawg]

Settings:

PBEM
Early Era
Map: Urraparrand
Conceptual Balance Mod
Worthy Heroes Mod
Indies 6
Site Frequency 50
Money 150
Resources/Supplies 100
Random events common
Score Graphs on
Hall of Fame 15
Easy Research
Renaming allowed

No special house rules on blesses. No excluded nations.

Victory Condition: 1 VP in each capital province; Need 5 out of 14 to win (non-cumulative).

Turn schedule:
Turns 1 - 15 would host daily
Turns 16 - Game End would host on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays at 9 pm Boston time.

Players:

Bluebird = Arco
Boron = Lanka
Cainehill = Abysia
Dakar = Helheim
djo = C'Tis
Ewierl = Atlantis
Jurri = R'lyeh
Meglobob = Pan
Migaaresno = Agartha
Pashadawg = Niefelheim
Quantum Mechani = Caelum
Rev. Zombie = Yomi
Wraithlord = Maverni
Ygorl = Sauromatia

[Meglobob]

Is this open to other players? If so can I join? Is it random nations?

[PashaDawg]

Hi Meglobob:

Oh darn! I had intended to invite all the players in WOOF, but unintentionally forgot you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I think we could add one more player. That would still keep it at about 13 provinces per player. What would be your top 4 choices for nations? They will be "assigned" according to preferences of players tonight.

Pasha

[Meglobob]

PashaDawg said:
Hi Meglobob:

Oh darn! I had intended to invite all the players in WOOF, but unintentionally forgot you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I think we could add one more player. That would still keep it at about 13 provinces per player. What would be your top 4 choices for nations? They will be "assigned" according to preferences of players tonight.

Pasha



The story of my life! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

1st:- Pangaea
2nd:- Helheim
3rd:- Vanheim
4th:- R'lyeh

Thanks for letting me in.

[PashaDawg]

The nations have been "assigned". Most players got their first choice.

Sorry to Dakar for not waiting longer. I am an eager beaver, but there are plenty of nations left from which to choose. Let me know which you would like. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Ok. Dakar chose Helheim.

[PashaDawg]

I am thinking of changing the victory condition to

either 5 out of 14

or 6 out of 14.

What do other players think?

Pasha

[Reverend Zombie]

PashaDawg said:
I am thinking of changing the victory condition to

either 5 out of 14

or 6 out of 14.

What do other players think?

Pasha



Under half seems low.

[PashaDawg]

I figured that in WOOF, the victory condition is 5 out of 12, and that is working out well for an interesting game that will probably eventually win with a "real" victor opposed to a draw.

[Boron]

5 out of 14 seems indeed enough, this way you cannot turtle + build up forever but are eventually forced to fight http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Meglobob]

PashaDawg said:
I figured that in WOOF, the victory condition is 5 out of 12, and that is working out well for an interesting game that will probably eventually win with a "real" victor opposed to a draw.



Yea. WOOF's a good guideline I reckon, 5 capitals is pretty tough to get, yet not impossible.

[PashaDawg]

Wraithlord sent me an email supporting 6 VP's.

Migaaresno supports 5.

[Jurri]

I think 5 is plenty. It should help avoid the tedium of the very late game, yet it's also enough to prevent any instant-wins: since the VPs are securely in capitals, you need to fight for every single one of them.

[PashaDawg]

I think the majority of players who have chimed in voted for 5 VP. So, I will change it to that.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 1 is out.

Deadline is due Monday at 9:00 p.m.

[PashaDawg]

The map setup looks interesting. No one is right next to another player, but almost no one is far from neighbors.

[Bluebird]

Good hunting everybody ...

[PashaDawg]

Turn 2 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

[Jurri]

We look to Jurri-Wup for direction, and it provides the pattern: endless expansion with purity of achievement.

[WraithLord]

Bluebird said:
Good hunting everybody ...


Yes indeed. Good luck everyone! (unless of course you choose to oppose Marverni http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

[PashaDawg]

Turn 3 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday night (TODAY) at 9:00 pm. (Or let's try for that.)

Pasha

[WraithLord]

I didn't get turn 3.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 4 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

Pasha

[Ewierl]

Let us know when to update to 3.08!

[Ygorl]

My vote is for now (since I already, hastily and irresponsibly, did)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

edit: by "now" I meant "after the current turn hosts".

[PashaDawg]

Yes. I will upgrade with this turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

If there are horrible problems, I have back ups of turns, and a copy of the game in 3.06 still, and we can revert.

[Cainehill]

Unfortunately, if you install 3.08 after simply backing up the executable, as with previous patches, it isn't so easy to revert to 3.06, since the patch overwrites multiple files.

And on the Windows platform, we didn't get a zip file that would let us _know_ multiple files were getting changed.

So people - hope you backed up the entire dominions3 directory, or like me, you'll have to dig up the original CD and manual to reinstall for other games.

Thanks IW - you're the best!

[WraithLord]

Is the message from host about Lanka "could be cheating" something to be taken seriously or is it just a bug?

EDIT, seeing as Boron is leading Lanka, I think the message can be ignored.

[Jurri]

I would hazard that it's some change in the patch with regards to Lanka causing flags to go up.

Cainehill: lighten up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I think the files are changed mostly to include the new units and flags and such. Indeed, if you just switch the old .exe back, the game starts up properly and displays the old version number, and doesn't show the new nations. This has been the case with earlier patches, too, despite them changing multiple files, I believe. So, at least on the surface it is enough to just back up the executable. So, I at least would be surprised if it didn't let you play older version turns by just changing the executable.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 5 went out last night.

Deadline is tonight (Friday) at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

I am certain that the warning of Lanka Cheating is a false alarm. Boron is a sneaky Bavarian, but he's not a cheater.

[Boron]

Wow weird. My uneducated guess would be that the message displayed because some lanka units got more expensive in 3.08, so maybe this triggered the cheat detection. I have some Palankashas who costed 45 gold in 3.06 and now cost 55 gold.
Still bizarre though.
Thanks for all the trust Pasha, Jurri and Wraithlord http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Meglobob]

WraithLord said:
Is the message from host about Lanka "could be cheating" something to be taken seriously or is it just a bug?




Boron said:
Wow weird. My uneducated guess would be that the message displayed because some lanka units got more expensive in 3.08, so maybe this triggered the cheat detection. I have some Palankashas who costed 45 gold in 3.06 and now cost 55 gold.
Still bizarre though.



This exact same cheat detection got triggered in another MP I was in when we patched from 3.04 to 3.06. I think Boron's point about the units gold change or something similar triggers it.

I am 100% sure there was no cheating on Borons part. He is a sneaky german thou... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Meglobob]

Turin said:
A warning:
3.08 pretty much broke the mod, because suddenly the itemslot numbers I used are incorrect and now pretty much every hero has two heads. In addition some old age issue showed up, but a fix is on the way.



From the worthy heros mod creator. Just pointing it out as we are using the mod!

Personally, I have nothing against heros with 2 heads... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 6 is out.

It would be great to host tonight (Saturday), but some players have let me know that they will most likely need a bit of extra time today due to real life.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 8 is out.

Deadline is Monday night.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 9 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 10 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday at 9pm.

Pasha

[Migaaresno]

The Giants from the Rimustar have invaded our lands. They bring whit them death and destruction. Hundreds of militia and young ones have died in the initial assault, luckily the Oracles who witnessed the destruction survived. The invading army is small but powerful. The Holy Oracles from the order of fire and warfare have already informed our forces just can’t compete whit them. Our men are now preparing to recruit as many men, stock supplies and call for help as this might be the last messengers witch can travel to all corners of the world from the fortress.

Please, to whoever reads this message, don’t let our race perish so sudden. It cant not happen this way, not since we crawled on this earth so long. Sent troops to drive the Evil our. Or help is in any other way.

We beg you,

-The current Prophet, Oracle of water and peace.

[PashaDawg]

Lies! The beasts burped up from earth's bowels are filthy liars. It is THEY who attacked us. We are cold-peace-loving giants!

[Jurri]

Sounds like neither of you wants the war! So, why fight at all?

Peace out /threads/images/Graemlins/Peace.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 12 is out.

Deadline is tonight (Saturday).

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 13 is out.

Deadline is Monday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 14 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 15 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 16 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 17 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 18 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 19 is out.

Deadline is TUESDAY.

[Meglobob]

Worthy heros mod v1.7 by Turin is out.

PashaDawg shouldn't we all upgrade?

Heres the link to worthy heros v1.7 :-

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=470523&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

[Boron]

Is the new turn out already? I did not get a new turn yet.

[WraithLord]

yeah, me neither.

[PashaDawg]

There has been a problem with QM's turn. We are still trying to work it out. He sent me his turn a second time as a ZIP, but that did not do the trick. I have asked him to tweak the turn a bit and resend.

Sorry for the delay.

Pasha

[Boron]

PashaDawg said:
Sorry for the delay.

Pasha


Np i just asked to avoid that i accidently delay the game since i get my emailflood with the dicemails from triple-a so i feared i accidently deleted the turnmail when deleting all the new dicemails http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 20 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 21 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[Meglobob]

The quick and dead. With me being dead and Marverni, Yomi being quick.

Good luck everyone and thanks to Pasha for hosting.

[WraithLord]

I hope next game we will get on the right foot. I usually do my best to avoid early fights, but I admit I was a bit upset by your attack.

[Meglobob]

WraithLord said:
I hope next game we will get on the right foot. I usually do my best to avoid early fights, but I admit I was a bit upset by your attack.



Don't be upset http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif, I had to attack someone, I was surrounded and had few provinces.

IF I had known you had a awake dragon and that the CB mod made farstrike the deadlist low level spell ever (it kills your leaders/commanders/mages with ruthless efficency), I really would not have...

[PashaDawg]

What happened? Give me the dirt!

[Meglobob]

PashaDawg said:
What happened? Give me the dirt!



Pangaea got partitioned by Marverni/Yomi/Atlantis.

[PashaDawg]

Terrible. And no loud squeals of protest from Pan until it was too late?

Well, now you can free up a slot for your next game! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[WraithLord]

Meglobob said:

WraithLord said:
I hope next game we will get on the right foot. I usually do my best to avoid early fights, but I admit I was a bit upset by your attack.



Don't be upset http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif, I had to attack someone, I was surrounded and had few provinces.

IF I had known you had a awake dragon and that the CB mod made farstrike the deadlist low level spell ever (it kills your leaders/commanders/mages with ruthless efficency), I really would not have...



Truth is, I was also surprised at just how efficient farstrike was, the battle replays showed your leaders like ducks in a shooting range http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
I think the modification to this spell did wonders to improve Marverni's potency, IMO its genius thinking.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 22 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

[quantum_mechani]

Meglobob said:

Don't be upset http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif, I had to attack someone, I was surrounded and had few provinces.

IF I had known you had a awake dragon and that the CB mod made farstrike the deadlist low level spell ever (it kills your leaders/commanders/mages with ruthless efficency), I really would not have...



Making Farstike the titan of low research spells certanly wasn't the intention, I'd be interested to hear more about what happened with it. The main boost CB gave to it was 100 precision... I wasn't thinking about that being used to assassinate commanders, but I guess it's a bit of a problem for the nations with small troops and big mages.

[Meglobob]

quantum_mechani said:The main boost CB gave to it was 100 precision... I wasn't thinking about that being used to assassinate commanders, but I guess it's a bit of a problem for the nations with small troops and big mages.



This was exactly the problem QM, my pans were behind my 100+ maenads/other troops who were size 2. My pans are size 3.

In one battle where I fielded 10 pans to all cast swarm/howl etc...farstrike took out 2-3 of those pans in the 1st combat round before they even got 1 spell off. You would expect 27hp pans to last longer than 1 round when behind 100-200 troops. Especially early in the game.

[WraithLord]

Farstrike was indeed useful in killing Pans, on the counter side there were battles with Pans involved in which the Pans weren't targeted by it but rather chaff like wolves and maeneds.

QM, I have all my BARK turns saves so if you want you can analyze for your self just how useful farstrike became.
INHO, it became just as useful as it should be, and not because I have enjoyed it as Marverni. Had I played Pan I would have countered it by fielding driads instead of Pans, or Using white centaurs, meaning this spell adds another choice to early game strat. which imo is nice.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 23 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

Thanks.

Pasha

[Ygorl]

If anybody's interested in trading the humble nation of Sauromatia a water bracelet, we'd be grateful. Now considering all offers... Cheers!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 24 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[Jurri]

I'll be unable to take my turns for at least until Friday. Given the situation in the game, it would be rather difficult for a substitute player to take over: do you think it would be possible to hold up the game until I can resume control? If that's too long a pause for y'all, I'll look up someone to make my moves, of course.

[PashaDawg]

Ok! We shall wait until Friday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 25 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday (unless everyone are eager beavers and get turns in today (Sunday)).

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 26 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 27 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 28 is out.

Deadline for the turn is Tuesday.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Dakar/Helheim has gone AI.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 29 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 30 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

[WraithLord]

Can someone please tell the tale behind the sudden drop in R'lyeh armies graph?- give us all the dirt http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I would assume some fierce fight vs. Atlantis, but one can never know.

[Ygorl]

If the game's going to continue with its regular schedule through the (American) holiday, I'm going to need a sub. I'm out July 2-11 (with a chance I'll be able to take turns at least sometimes, but not a big chance). If other folks have conflicts, maybe we can put it on pause though and then I don't have to find a sub?

[Reverend Zombie]

Ygorl said:
If the game's going to continue with its regular schedule through the (American) holiday, I'm going to need a sub. I'm out July 2-11 (with a chance I'll be able to take turns at least sometimes, but not a big chance). If other folks have conflicts, maybe we can put it on pause though and then I don't have to find a sub?



Ditto here, I'm out July 3-8.

[Ewierl]

WraithLord said:
Can someone please tell the tale behind the sudden drop in R'lyeh armies graph?- give us all the dirt http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Indeed, the might of the Basalt Kings and some clever battlefield decoying resulting in the breaking of the Aboleths' army outside the basalt walls of our home! We shall see what transpires next beneath the waves...

(In other news, I'm not going to be vacationing, but I'm quite happy waiting for those who are.)

[WraithLord]

Must have been a sight to see, the battle outside the basalt walls of Atlantis.

As for my part I've no problem waiting for the vacationing guys.

[PashaDawg]

If I had my preference, we would not put the game on hold, because I will be away from July 18 - 25 myself, which in itself could be a long delay. I am even wondering if it would be good to get a substitute host during that time to keep the game moving.

Pasha

[Reverend Zombie]

PashaDawg said:
If I had my preference, we would not put the game on hold, because I will be away from July 18 - 25 myself, which in itself could be a long delay. I am even wondering if it would be good to get a substitute host during that time to keep the game moving.

Pasha



Ah, well, should I fail to get a sub, are you okay with me setting to AI? I doubt I'd have much fun resuming after several stales.

[Ygorl]

Hum. No hits yet on my sub request. I should probably have internet access at least until the end of the 3rd, so as long as turns go out on time (or on-time-ish) I'll be able to play the next couple. I'll bring my CD, too, in case I can find a computer to install it on when I'm on Maui. Don't be too jealous.

[Bluebird]

My plans for vacation are at the end of August, and I will try to get a sub then (I already have someone im mind).

[Reverend Zombie]

Folket's agreed to sub for me. I'll have him PM you with his email, Pasha.

[PashaDawg]

No need to worry about stale turns while you are away, Ygorl and Zombie. (Although it's great you got a sub, Zombie.) We will keep the hosting schedule flexible.

[Boron]

Hm i have new problems too. The power outage which destroyed my modem+splitter seems to have done even more damage.
Today i contacted the service personnel of my isp, but since my isp was on a strike for several weeks they have to do all the work which amassed meanwhile, so i will likely have to wait several weeks till the isp-technicans finally repair the damage.

Till then i can suddenly at any time lose my internet access for several hours, or maybe even completely. So i will try to find a sub also and i suggest that in case i do not send my turn in time that pasha could be so kind to pause 1 day then, if i do not send my turn meanwhile hopefully a sub i find takes over then. Would it be ok if a player who already participates subs for me?

[Ewierl]

Sorry for asking for this current extension, everyone. I got some crucial diplomacy replies right at the original deadline, so now I'm trying to scramble and make some newly-possible deals take place. I'll submit ASAP, I promise! I can't imagine it being any later than this evening.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 31 is out.

Deadline is technically Tuesday, but I will be flexible due to all the gunk. But, let's try to keep the game moving.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Folket will be graciously subbing for Rev. Zombie while he is away. He said that he might sub for Ygorl, too, but I vetoed that.

I think it is best that no sub act as proxy for more than one player.

I encourage players to diligently find subs when appropriate. Putting a game on hold for long periods of time can lead to player disengagement. And, a bad case of the P.D.'s can kill a game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 32 is out.

Deadline is Thursday at 9pm Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 33 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Thanks.

Pasha

[Reverend Zombie]

I'm back and can start taking my turns again.

[PashaDawg]

Ok! I kept you in the loop. So, you should have the latest turn. It's due on Tuesday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 34 is out.

Deadline is Thursday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 35 is out.

Deadline is Sunday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 36 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

I will be away from Wed. July 18 through the following Wednesday.

Ironhawk has agreed to sub for me as Niefelheim.

djo has agreed to sub as host. (I will host the current turn on Tues. July 17 and then hand over power to him.)

Thanks to both.

Pasha

[djo]

Hi folks, your stand-in host here. Anyone who doesn't already have my email address, you can either pick it off one of Pasha's status emails, or PM me. I'd prefer that it not be posted here.

Remember, this turn to Pasha, next few to me.

[Ygorl]

Thanks for taking this on, djo!

[PashaDawg]

Alas, Cainehill...

Your stuffed Sleeping Tarrasque is waiting for you as a consolation prize.

FYI, I will be vacationing near your old stomping grounds up in Washington County again.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 37 is out. Deadline for turns is Thursday.

I have now handed over hosting to djo until I get back. You should send your turn to djo.

Thanks.

Pasha

[djo]

OK, folks, here's a few things:

-- deadline is 9 pm Thursday, EDT; I'm in the same time zone as Pasha, so no changes to the schedule
-- I don't check my personal email or these forums during work hours, so any problems that crop up late on one workday will have to wait until after work the next day
-- it would be nice if everyone were prompt or early for the first hosting, in case there are problems (at least the Thursday hosting has more time available for fixes)
-- I will try to email or post a turn status, but I may not, so don't rely on them!

That OK with everyone?

Status right now: I have orders from: Arco, Atlantis, Niefel, and R'lyeh (Edit) and Maverni

[djo]

Just waiting on Caelum...

Hosting planned for 9pm tonight EDT.

[quantum_mechani]

Hmm, I sent it, I'll try again.

[Reverend Zombie]

I'm off to bed soon and out of town this weekend. If I don't get the new turn in the next few minutes, I might need a little extra time to get the next one in Sunday night.

[djo]

OK, I received QM's retry with no problem. Next time we will make a burnt offering to the gods of the aether first.

Turn 38 should be out. Next hosting, 9pm EDT Sunday. Rev. Zombie, let me know if you need more time.

I used Pasha's scripts with some modifications. If you don't receive or have a problem with a turn, email me or post here, and I'll fix it Friday evening after work.

[djo]

I have all turns except Yomi. Rev. Zombie said he might need more time (see two messages upthread), so I'll wait on hosting for some word from him. If we don't host tonight, I'll check my mail tomorrow before work, then after work.

[djo]

Turn 39 has hosted. Orders due Tuesday 9pm.

[djo]

I am missing Lanka's turn, so I will delay hosting for tonight.

[djo]

Turn 40 has been sent, not too late. Let's aim for a 9pm Thursday hosting as usual.

Continue to send turns to me; I'll forward them to Pasha when he returns. It might be easier for me to host one more turn on Thursday and switch over then, we'll see.

[Ironhawk]

Oh, FYI:

NEIFELHEIM RULES YOU ALL

(just doing my part to shore up neifelheims diplo situation for pasha when he returns) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

I am back after a very relaxing vacation of reading and playing low-tech games next to a lake. I even dusted off my Magic cards from 1994.

I agree with djo that it is probably easier for him to host Thursday's turn. Then I will take over hosting duties after that.

Thank you, Ironhawk, for filling in for me as Giants! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Pasha

[djo]

Turn 41 has been emailed. From now on, email turns to Pasha.

Thanks to everyone for your prompt, trouble-free turns. I wouldn't hesitate to sub-host again for this group.

[Jurri]

Thanks, djo, for the trouble! And welcome back Pasha.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 42 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 43 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 44 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 45 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 46 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 47 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

[Ewierl]

We have been driven out of the last corner of the seas by the hordes of R'lyeh, and now the opportunistic Caelum has seen fit to snatch up our dry refuges, even now beseiging our last castle, the old home of the Abysians. Though Barathrus guards our citadel, our people riot in their despair, and regime change has been demanded with the disastrous end of our wars.

So, the Basalt Kings and speakers to Omphalepsis have been driven from our government by popular uprising, and replaced with an AI People's Council. We may die, but we die free!

Vive la Atlantis!

[quantum_mechani]

The Eagle kings salute the war council of Atlantis for their long and tireless struggle against the overwhelming might of Ry'leh. With rumors of a revolution by the pariah ruler 'AI', however, we were forced to send in peacekeeping troops to insure such revolution would not destabalize the region.

[Jurri]

You vile coward, get off my prize! /threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif

[quantum_mechani]

Jurri said:
You vile coward, get off my prize! /threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif

You got plenty of prize underwater. And further, /threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif is property of Caelum.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 48 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[Jurri]

quantum_mechani said:
You got plenty of prize underwater.

That's exactly what makes you a coward! Only a coward swoops in on a righteous kill like a vulture. Go back to turtling in your mountains, you ball-less wonder! /threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 49 is out.

Deadline is Sunday (I will be away on Thursday).

Pasha

[Ferrosol]

Dear Forum
Our countries president Bluebird has been overthrown and replaced by THE BENEVOLENT GENERAL FERROSOL ALL HAIL FERROSOL!
Yours Sincerely
Little girl

[Bluebird]

Ah - too fast, just wanted to make the announcement: The great general Ferrosol was so kind to sub for me until further notice ... the kick in the but when I left the throne room still hurts. *sob*

[djo]

I was just looking at the graphs, admiring my downward slopes, when I noticed something I didn't understand. How did Caelum's research drop? Isn't that an aggregate that can only go up or stay flat?

[Valandil]

The graph scales to incorporate world research levels.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 50 is out.

Deadline is TUESDAY at 9:00 p.m.

Pasha

[Ygorl]

Boo, my guys don't know how to follow scripts!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 51 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

QM has requested an extension until Friday. So, the deadline for turns is now Friday night.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 52 is out. Deadline is Sunday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 53 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 54 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 55 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

[PashaDawg]

Sad news!

The R'lyah invasion of the once quiet lands of the Niefel Giants has been swift and merciless. Their armies are huge and well supported. I fear that they shall control Niefel's two victory point provinces in a matter of turns (maybe 3).

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif Curses upon the pond scum putrefying our great lands! Curses!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif

Pasha

[Jurri]

Tentacoo wape!

[djo]

We apologize to the people of Caelum that our beloved hero, Udum'ukinna, did, in his return from Cocytos, mistake the eastern hemisphere for the western (or perhaps vice versa) and arrive outside the walls of what turned out to be a lightly defended fortress. Being so far from home, he is not sure what to do other than stay where he is, so there he shall stay.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 56 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 57 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

I will be out of town Friday - Tuesday. So, we will skip Sunday's hosting. Sorry about that.

Pasha

[WraithLord]

The nation of Marverni is here by opening the trading season for astral gems. Anything goes in return, gold, gems, artifacts (even unique).

They will be used to nurture the moon pools in the druidic groves http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Jurri]

Someone's planning to go all Arcane Nexus on us, is he?

[WraithLord]

No AN. I promise to behave http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[quantum_mechani]

Quite an exciting battle at Niefelhiem this turn, couldn't have been much closer.

[WraithLord]

Scouts report that during this particular siege R'lyeh has lost some few hundred units. Must have been one awesome battle.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 58 is out.

Deadline is TUESDAY.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 59 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 60 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

Booooooo Rlyeh! Boooooooo!

Pasha

[Jurri]

Boooo-hooo, cry me a river! /threads/images/Graemlins/Waterdrop.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Waterdrop.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Waterdrop.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 61 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[Ygorl]

And *again* my global draws the short straw! What is this, some kind of conspiracy by the Random Number Gods to keep Sauromatia an insignificant primitive backwater?

Hmph. We'll just have to find other means of securing power. Now, where can we look...?

[Jurri]

You could try taking something from me: everyone else seems to http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[WraithLord]

Jurri said:
You could try taking something from me: everyone else seems to http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



There seems to be some kind of a misunderstanding between us. I've sent you a private email so that we can discuss the details and iron it out.

[Jurri]

Hehe, you're certainly not the only one coming for a piece! Just the most surprising one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Arcos gave notice last turn, and Caelum this turn. (Big surprise that the coward waits until I'm fighting at least 3 other nations before joining the dawgpile.)

[djo]

Note to self: do NOT set god and prophet to retreat when you have no provinces to retreat to...

[WraithLord]

What???

Could you please elaborate. It sounds like a good story, though of course I share your grief.

[djo]

At one point in time, C'tis had two underwater empires separated by a peninsula. I was trying to get Thog the wrym and my prophet from the east to the west undersea empire, and I tried to rush them across the peninsula in the same month an invader was probably going to take the peninsula. So I set them to retreat, reasoning they had a 50-50 chance of retreating to the west instead of east.

Of course they didn't, and of course I forgot to reset their orders, and of course several turns later someone threw a horror at me (Caelum is my guess, they ate my western undersea empire), and they ran out of places to go.

This is just another exhibit in why I am not a feared opponent: insufficient attention to detail!

I'll be out in 1-2 turns. It's been fun, see you in the next one...

[quantum_mechani]

Jurri said:
(Big surprise that the coward waits until I'm fighting at least 3 other nations before joining the dawgpile.)

Last I checked, 'Insane recklessness' wasn't a victory condition. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[quantum_mechani]

djo said:
and of course several turns later someone threw a horror at me (Caelum is my guess, they ate my western undersea empire),

Nope, don't even have anything with blood and astral.

[djo]

True, Sauro makes more sense. The horror attacks in the west showed up intermingled with the Genie attacks, so I jumped to conclusions. I may be misremembering. Couldn't do much about it either way.

[Jurri]

quantum_mechani said:
Last I checked, 'Insane recklessness' wasn't a victory condition. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Knowing the victory condition doesn't make you any less of a coward! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif And hey, there's no shame in being a yellow-bellied mama's boy. (Unless you fancy yourself to be some kinda man with actual, you know, balls, that is. Self-delusion's not cool.)

We will miss Thog. The Triumphant Genius led a rich life, and it's sad how he died such an unsavory death.

[Ygorl]

Yeah, that might have been me. My gem production got axed by the RNG, remember, and I needed an alternate source of power? A more reliable one? Well, lots of virgins in Sauromatia - the Blood Gods don't have modern enlightened attitudes about just what constitutes "sex".
Sorry you had to go that way though. I figured the horror was a long shot...

[quantum_mechani]

Jurri said:
And hey, there's no shame in being a yellow-bellied mama's boy.

Good thing, with your mighty aboloths always going running to their polypal mamas... and I bet their bellies are yellow, you just can't see from this angle!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 62 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

Pasha

[WraithLord]

4 VPs to R'lyeh.

I bet ye, if there's *any* VP with no castle and strong defense he is going to claim victory and very soon.

[PashaDawg]

And then the world will descend irrevocably into darkness.

[PashaDawg]

QM requested an extension until today.

I will shoot to host when I get home from work today.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 63 went out last night.

If possible, it would be great to host again tonight to stay on schedule, but if players need until Thursday, that would be fine.

Pasha

[Ygorl]

Sorry I couldn't make tonight - I'm still stuck at work... Weep for me.

[PashaDawg]

I am still waiting for turns from Sauro and R'lyeh. The deadline is tonight (Thursday).

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 64 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 65 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

The emails say "Turn 64" but that's a mistake.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 66 is out. Deadline is Thursday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 67 is out.

Deadline is SUNDAY night at 9:00 pm Boston time

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 68 is now out.

Let's say that turns will be due on Thursday night. The turns for SOME folks take a long time to play, so I hear. We Giants, on the other hand, are quick and nimble.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

I am pleased to announce that the ultra-excellent Ygorl will be spared the duties of hosting this game while I am away.

Congratulations, Jurri! Once again... please see Lulu in the back room for your prize.

[WraithLord]

Congrats Jurri for a well deserved and hard earned victory http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

You have really assembled one scary army at 162, there was nothing all of us together could do to stop it.

[djo]

Congrats to my semi-ally. Did he liberate my C'tisian capital from the evil Sauromatian invaders?

[Jurri]

Whoa! That was a bit surprising http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I was sure QM would airdrop another 30+ seraphs and ream my army but good. It sure was dang hard to get the last capital: well defended Bluebird, QM et Izaqyos!

I had quite literally nothing at all in reserve, too, so had my army been repelled that would have been it for me. When I started attacking Pasha, I for a while planned to cast to cast Sea of Ice with lotsa gems to defend against the gangbang he was trying to scare me off with, and just sit it out in the ocean (casting Wrath of the Sea once gems permitted: on a map that's mostly coast it would have been fun to try), but when it didn't come, I decided to risk it all on a mad dash to the nearest capital.

All in all it was one of the more difficult games that have ended in my favor (and certainly the most close), beginning with that punk Ewierl repelling my assault and ending with the uncanny Wraithlord very nearly ruining me with his 'mistakes' http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Early R'lyeh sure is crappy, the only reason I did this well because the map has so much water. And because certain players were too passive for their own good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif With a victory condition like this, you gotta attack, attack, attack.

djo: the last of my capitals was the vile Arcoscephalean den of sin. Ygorl never did attack me, unless those Disease demons were his instead of Boron's.

Anyway, off to see Lulu... Thanks, Pasha, for the hosting and thank you all for the game!

[Ygorl]

Those disease demons were indeed courtesy of me. Izaqyos told me that you were about to take 162, thus ending the game, so I had to send something nasty your way. Too bad it wasn't enough. Good game, everyone, especially the victorious squid-lords. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[WraithLord]

Yeap, some players (me included) were too passive in this game, yet you had some balls there to go against everyone. You know, I think I could have taken one VP from you, one of the ex Neifel VPS, but I chose not to do so because I wanted the bulls eye to be painted on your back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Obviously, I miscalculated strategically.

I must say that I really appreciate how you stuck to your aggressive plan and made that bold play pay for you. Another lesson learned from the Jurri institution for dominions strategy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[quantum_mechani]

Jurri said:
Whoa! That was a bit surprising http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I was sure QM would airdrop another 30+ seraphs and ream my army but good.

Actually, I that and more I could have sent in, but like wraithlord, I miscalculated. Hindsight is 20/20 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

But congrats on the win, you certainly had to work hard to project that much power on land. I do wonder how the situation would have shaken down if your last attack had failed, given all the superpower's teleport powers, the VP chaos could get quite wild if everyone was feelinng frisky.

[quantum_mechani]

Oh, I almost forgot to ask, does anyone have any comments on how CB balancing worked out this game?

[WraithLord]

I have noticed balance effects mainly in the item forging area. I liked the changes to empowerment items and to gem generating items.

[Jurri]

Hah, I totally hated the D3-requirement for skull staves. I don't like the other booster-item cost-increases either. On the whole I still have mixed feelings for the mod: there's a lot of things in it that make the game more fun, but there is also stuff that creates unnecessary frustrations or that don't do anything for the fun-factor, except cause annoyance when you notice it's been changed. I would much prefer the mod took a more streamlined approach, instead of fiddling with every little thing.

[quantum_mechani]

Well, liked or disliked, the booster nerfs are gone in the current version. And actually I don't think CB messes with gem gen items.

As for streamlined... it's hard to be streamlined when there are so many options to be balanced. Nerfs are the most 'streamlined' balancing option, and everyone hates those.