War is Hell 2 - In progress

[johnarryn]

The game is currently starting.

The map is large - 240 provs, 219 land, 21 water.

There will be 12 players.

IMPORTANT: For the first 20-30 turns, turns will be every 24 hours, with a deadline of 8 p.m. EST (GMT -5). If you cannot make this deadline, do not sign up for the game. Seriously. If you happen to miss the deadline, I will stale you once and, should it occur again, your nation will be reassigned. If there's an emergency, I am of course willing to be reasonable, but please give me notice.

No mods will be in effect.

I would like to begin by Wednesday, May 9th. Please get your pretenders to me by then.

Current players and nations:
1. johnarryn - Vanheim
2. methel - Mictlan
3. cupido2 - Lanka
4. supox - Oceania
5. atreides - Caelum
6. szumo - Niefelheim
7. digress - Abysia
8. valerius - Rlyeh
9. lolomo - Sauromatia - DEFEATED
10. gameextremist - Helheim
11. stelteck - Kailasa
12. Willburn - Agartha - set to AI

[johnarryn]

bump

[LoloMo]

me me me! I was the first nation eliminated in part 1, I'm back to regain my tarnished honor! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[johnarryn]

2 spaces left! Get 'em while they're hot!

[Stelteck]

I'am signing here is there any room available.

Stelteck.

[Willburn]

I assume his is V3.08 if so then I would like to try http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Might as well play with the big boys in my first mp game.

[johnarryn]

Great, we have 12 players. Some old faces, some new faces. I'm always really happy to see new players who are taking the plunge into multiplayer =)
Trust me, it's a whole different ballgame than SP. At the same time, it's much more interesting, and I think you will find that it is hard to go back to SP after playing some fun MP games.

At the moment, we are waiting for pretenders. PLEASE endeavor to have your pretender to me by 8 pm EST (GMT -5) on Wednesday, May 9th. As soon as I receive your pretender, I will email you the map files. You should place these in a folder in /savedgames entitled "warishell2"

Feel free to conduct diplomacy on the boards. Remember to be courteous, and I find it best to refer to nations rather than players, i.e. "Ulm is a backstabbing troglodyte" versus "johnarryn is... etc., etc."

Good luck. I will post on the board when the game begins. If you don't receive your turn by the time you see the posting, please email me so I know you haven't received the file.

Remember, pretenders must be EARLY AGE.
Thanks!

[cupido2]

Eehm, I know it's a pain, but the chieftain of Lanka will be out of his capital village this thursday and friday. So it's possible that the turn won't be in time. Very sorry.

[johnarryn]

That's fine... please do your best to get the turn in, but we can wait if necessary.

[Willburn]

The Agartha leader wishes to extend out a helping hand to anyone willing to coexist with us. We have no intentions to slave, pillage, flay skin or by any other means harm any other nations beings. We promice! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[johnarryn]

Pretenders received from:

Vanheim (duh)
Lanka
Oceania
Kailasa
Niefelheim
Caelum
Agartha
Abysia
Sauromatia
Mictlan

waiting on 2.

[Willburn]

Beware that agartha will want to live in the swamplands. Stop us from this and we will poke you with sharp objects. Poke!

(I opened the map in the map editor and noticed a very few swamps so im gonna have to fight hard to get one.)

[tromper]

I've got your swamp right here, buddy.

*crude Triton King gesture*

[johnarryn]

Excellent, we're only waiting on pretenders for:

Helheim
Rlyeh


Valerius and Gameextremist, please get your pretenders in. Thanks!

[johnarryn]

Also, I believe ive sent the map files to everyone who has sent me a pretender. Plese let me know if you havet received the files.

[GameExtremist]

Recieved the files, pretender will be in an hour or two.

[johnarryn]

Ok, i've received all pretender files. Unfortunately, im at work =)
So, the game will be started when I get home from work, about 5 pm EST (GMT -5). The first turn will be due by 8 pm EST on Thursday, May 10th... although we will have to delay for cupido2, who will be out thursday and friday. I do hope that after that, however, things will go smoothly.
Good luck, everybody.

[johnarryn]

And we're off! Turn 1 is out. Let me know if you don't receive it...
Remember: I need the .2h file.

[johnarryn]

So far, I have turns from:
Caelum
Agartha
Abysia
Mictlan
Helheim
Niefelheim
Rlyeh
Lanka
Vanheim

Waiting on:
Oceania
Kailasa
Sauromatia

We still have 12 hours to the deadline, so i'm confident the next turn will be out on time. Good job everybody!

[johnarryn]

Turn 2 out. Deadline is 8 pm EST (GMT -5) on Friday, May 11.

Nice hustle on this last turn! =)

[johnarryn]

Four hours to go until hosting. I am currently waiting for:

Kailasa
Mictlan

[johnarryn]

Turn 3 has been sent out.

[johnarryn]

5 hours to go, we're waiting on Mictlan. Everybody has been doing a great job of getting their turns in on time.

[Willburn]

Thats the only great job agartha has done so far.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[johnarryn]

Hehe... Agartha is certainly not the easiest of nations to play.

[johnarryn]

Turn 4 is out

[johnarryn]

Turn 5 has been sent out. Deadline is 8 pm EST (GMT -5) on Monday, May 14th... however, the turn will probably not be sent out until a bit later than that, as I will be out Monday evening.

[johnarryn]

Whoa, I already have everyones turns except for:
Mictlan
Rlyeh

So, if i can get those by tomorrow morning i'll host early, otherwise it will be the standard evening host. I know i've been gushing already, but i'm actually really impressed by how quickly everyone has been getting their turns in. Good times.

[johnarryn]

Turn 6 is out. Deadline is 8 pm (GMT -5) on Tuesday, May 15th.

[GameExtremist]

Is it just me or is gold rather scarce on this map?

[cupido2]

Was thinking the same...

[johnarryn]

I haven't seen any huge provs... im not starving for gold either, however. Sometimes random maps can have a smaller amount of gold than others.

[Willburn]

Gold is a luxury for my agarthian people. We scrape by on sea plant food and a free unit here and there http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif After our fatal first battle where our brave godhood himself allmost got stomped by a raving horde of elephants and annhilated most of the agarthian army we have been forced to out sourcing our millitary muscle http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif (mercenaries)

[johnarryn]

Turn 7 has been sent out.

[johnarryn]

Turn 8 was sent out last night, i just forgot to post about it. Anyhow, its due tonight, May 17th, at 8 pm EST.

[johnarryn]

Turn 9 is out. Due May 18th at 8 pm EST.

[johnarryn]

Turn 10 out. Due May 19 at 8 pm EST.

[johnarryn]

Turn 11 out. Due May 20th at 8 pm EST.

[johnarryn]

Due May 21st at 8 pm EST

[cupido2]

Screeetch! u-uuu-uuuu! heLp! bIg meeN FRom eviLheIm KIllinG anD eadTinG fRIently apes oF LaNKA! PliiZ hELP PooR lIttl MARkatA manKEy WHo lEArnT rITIng TO Call vor HElp on ForUHM oF NicE PiiPle! MARkatA nOW haanGRii. Weere BanANA.

[Willburn]

Poor guy must have used too much astral magic. That stuff can really mess with your head.

[johnarryn]

Due by 8 pm EST on May 23rd

[johnarryn]

Er, make that turn 14. Apparently I lost a turn somewhere in there.

[johnarryn]

Sent out turn 15 earlier today. Due on May 24th by 8 pm.

[johnarryn]

Sent out. Due May 25th 8 pm EST

[LoloMo]

The Nation of Sauromatia surrenders in shameful defeat as 61 of its cowardly horsemen lost to less than a dozen of the Vanheim supermen =)

Beware the coming of the Vanheim!

(I knew I should have taken an SC pretender hahaha)

[johnarryn]

Turn 17 sent out yesterday. Due today, May 26th at 8 pm

[Willburn]

wow i didnt finish last. Allready exceeded my goal in my first game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Szumo]

So, who took out Sauromatia?

[johnarryn]

Turn 18 out.

The mighty nation of Vanheim wiped the Sauromatian barbarians from the map.

[cupido2]

Ugah! Ape still fight big men! Still look for help! No men have heart for poor ape? Big men large threat to all others!

[tromper]

*glub glub* Cousteau warns Mictlan from over expansion as it will destroy *glub* the Westward land animals' potential ability to counter the *plop fizz* tallmen who have continued to *gurg* vibrate our kelp farmers with *honk* fear.

[johnarryn]

Turn 19 out.

[johnarryn]

Turn 20 out... im liking this fast pace =)

[johnarryn]

Turn 21 sent out.

[cupido2]

Ape STILL fight big men but not many month longer! help! u-uu-uuu last apes say thanks to nice people who willing to help!

[johnarryn]

Turn 23 out. Due May 30th, 8 pm EST

[johnarryn]

turn 24 out... due May 31st, 8 pm EST>

[cupido2]

Here ape of Lanka again... only Vanheim hear calls of apes yet. hope more will join and beat evilheim! Soon capitol Lanka will be free and much cheering and screeching among apes! Lanka will be good country again! Ugaaah uu. *sings national anthym*
UUUuuuugah Uuuugahh
O La-ha-nka land of aaaapes
with good banana and big graaapes
apes looooove youuu forever
we wooohon't surrender neeever

O La-ha-nka land of aaapes
there apes of many shapes
O Cupido-god apes love you foreeever
because you wooohon't go AI neeever

[johnarryn]

turn 25 out... sorry for the delay. It would be nice if we could get the turns in by 8 pm EST on Friday, June 1st... but if you need more time let me know.

[cupido2]

GO VANHEIM FREE LANKA!
Apes love you! Will do good things for you!

[johnarryn]

Sorry for the delay... because I sent out the turn late, im giving Rlyeh some extra time to get his turn in...

[johnarryn]

Turn 26 is out. Deadline is June 3rd at 8 pm EST.

[Szumo]

cupido2 said:
GO VANHEIM FREE LANKA!
Apes love you! Will do good things for you!



Indeed, Vanheim is indeed sieging Lanka's former capital, still defended by valiant sons of Niefelheim, but do you really believe that will do any good to infernal ape nation?

For all the other nations, wake up and get prepared. Soon the the glorious realm of Niefelheim will fall under Vanir avalanche, and then the Vanir, controlling not only their own lands, but Sauromatians, Niefelheims and Lankas one will roll over you all.

[johnarryn]

Vanheim responded to the piteous cries of Lanka for aid with the only thing Niefelheim listens to: force. Lanka's capital will be returned to them once we root out the evil giants, who still hold sway over much of the North. Do not believe the giants' lies.

[johnarryn]

Turn 27 out. Due June 4th at 8 pm EST.

[Methel]

If anyone wants some free land, Caelum has decided to kamikaze itself on me, his lands are devoid of defense.

[tromper]

From the *gurgle* waves, we salute the efforts of the *pop* winged as they curtail the unabaited *swish* expansion of the blood worshippers, who *honk* control the entirety of the Southeastern con*hic*tinent.

- Cousteau

[johnarryn]

Hehe, sounds like that whole time of peace everyone had going is about over.

[Willburn]

We shall support whatever action the ocean people see fit.

[Willburn]

and oh yeah.. game just blasted into big wars lol http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Atreides]

Unfortunatly for the nation of Mictlan, they are fighting a small fraction of my armies, so "devoid of defense" is a rather poor assessment. Furthermore, it seems that controlling an entire island and paying homage to infernal demons has won them few friends. The Eagle Kings remain at peace with the men of the North, and the Triton Kings stand shoulder to wing with us in our war against the blood worshippers. I invite the nations of Agartha and Rlyeh to join this coalition and rid the Southern lands of this blight.

[Methel]

Make you're excuses if you want. The fact remains that the nation of Mictlan are not the aggressors of this unprovoked attack.
If you want to support the warmonger, go ahead.

[drakkan65]

lets get this game going

[Atreides]

I made no excuses. The Eagle Kings proudly go into battle to stop the expansion of a foe who would butcher their own civilians to strengthen their nation.

[cupido2]

Lanka infernal ape nation? little markata ape must cry. Big men with clubs bang joyous apes an head, make hot soap out of flesh and ashtray out of hands call Lanka infernal? Vanheim people will teach you lesson.

[Willburn]

The agartha people will join the coallition of the willing and rid the world of this axis of evil. (Mitchigan)

[Methel]

Evil? Butcher?
The God of Mictlan craves blood, and the followers are willing. We have lines of candidates hoping for the honor, the privilege of sacrificing themselves to our God!

Do not talk to us about butchery, more blood has been spilled on the battlegrounds in a few short months, then there ever has been on the temples of Mictlan.

So I say again, make you're excuses if you like, but we see you're aggression for what it truly is. Land Lust.

We raise the call, who will stand with us against these aggressors? Will you take up the sword and face them with us on the fields of battle, or cower in you're homes until they decide you are the evil one now?

[Willburn]

haha this game is gonna be awesome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif (even if I do loose the word war owns http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Stelteck]

The good and civilized ape of kailasa hope that their evil and barbarian brothers of Lanka will die soon, because they give a false and sauvage picture of the true ape people.

Stelteck.

[johnarryn]

Turn 29 out.

[Methel]

I kinda wish score graphs where on, my lands are so barren Im not sure theres any point in holding on to them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Too bad there isn't a mass teleport spell that lets you move you're capital.

[Atreides]

Yeah, Im one of the few people who always wishes score graphs were on, but no one else seems to like em. In any case, even if your lands are barren, at least your troops aren't too expensive, and damn those jaguar warriors keep tearing me a new one. I can't get them to break! It's pretty horrifying watching them tear through my guys, because apparently Caelum is big on that whole, flying makes up for lack of ability to fight at all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. And to Willburn, thank you, I laughed for about 5 minutes when I saw you coalition of the willing comment.

[johnarryn]

Perhaps i'll put score graphs on in my next game... although I don't like them, as they tend to lead to the "dogpile on the biggest guy" thing. That's not necessarily bad when someone is clearly dominating the game, but it can be bad when someone inches slightly ahead and is killed by everybody else...

I tend to feel like people know when someone is really taking the game without the need for score graphs.

[drakkan65]

i ready sur

[cupido2]

Markata will throw sticks and stone at Steltek when see him in good Lanka land.

[Stelteck]

The evil lord of agartha tried by surprise to bring death and destruction upon the civilised and peaceful ape nation of kailasa.

Of course they failed. Now they are running for their lifes as we discipline them and provide them the light of civilisation and peace.
We are not cruel, but as parents must sometimes be rude with their children, civilized nation must sometimes give harsh lesson to less favorised one.

May the fate of arghata be a warning to all nations and prevent them for worshiping evil.

Stelteck.

[tromper]

We *burp* warn you, monkeys, that if you *swish* accost the Deep Ones further, you shall lose *click* your only barr*clack*ier your lubbers have from the bloody forces to the *breaking a trombone* Southeast.

- Cousteau

[Methel]

The nation of Mictlan will welcome the apes as new neighbors with open arms. We are not the warmongers the fishmen tries to sell us for. Sofar we have not started a single war, though we intend to finish the one with caelum, even if they are bigger then us.

[johnarryn]

Turn 30 out.

[GameExtremist]

Just a heads up that I may not be able to get my turns in on time in the next few days...

We just had like the 50 year storm in Newcastle, Australia.....power was knocked out for 18 hours...It's only just come back...but no guarentees as another big front is about to hit.

Would it be possible to set the turn timer to 48 hrs temporarily?

[johnarryn]

Turn 32 out... a delay shouldn't be a problem. Sorry about the power outage thing, that's not fun.

[Methel]

Mictlan wants to purchase one (or more) staff of storms to blow away the rain of arrows from the ever expanding caelumites.

[Szumo]

Well, my last effort plan of trying to wipe big Vanheim army with summoned Lammashtas didn't work (damn the mounted hirdmen and their speed!). My capital is sieged, i'm down to 4 provinces which hardly brings enough income to even pay upkeep.
I'm sending out my 200 gems in hopes that they will help to avenge the glorious giants. I expect to hold out behind the castle walls for a few more turns, and then go out with a bang http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
It was a good game though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[johnarryn]

Thanks for joining the game again, Szumo... hopefully you'll be in War is Hell 3 =)

Unfortunately, I had to go after you, as I had enough of Soul Vortex-slinging Jarls in the previous game. Too nasty... everyone else should thank me =)

It's not over quite yet.

[johnarryn]

Turn 34 out. Due tomorrow at 8 pm EST

[Willburn]

The brave agartha people will resurface some other time. We are loosing to the monkey men (Good fight well done). Soon you replace us with the AI.

[johnarryn]

Turn 35 out.

[johnarryn]

turn 36 out.

[johnarryn]

In other news, anyone want to help take down that Forge of the Ancients? That's often know as a DOA global - Dead on Arrival. It generally makes everyone want to kill the caster, as its ridiculously good.

[GameExtremist]

Considering Neifelheim gave me their large stores of gems added to my own.....By all means dispel away http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[johnarryn]

Sorry for the delay, guys... waiting on one person because of a mix-up on my part.

[johnarryn]

turn 37 out.
Due tomorrow (June 18th) at 8 pm EST.

[johnarryn]

Turn 39 out. Due tomorrow, June 21st at 8 pm. PLease endeavor to have the turn in on time.
thanks.

[cupido2]

Lanka back in monkey hand! Long live Vanheim! *lots of cheers, screetches and ugaaas* Long live Lanka *even more cheers, screetches, ugaaas, the national anthem is sung* Long live monkey-god Cupido *ecstasy, spontaneous bloodsacrifices*

[johnarryn]

Heed not the whimpering of Helheim... they have merely come to regret their unprovoked attack upon the people of Vanheim. Were it not for the fierce resistance of Vanheim, the mighty Helhirdings would no doubt be overrunning Helheim's other neighbors at this very moment.

[johnarryn]

Turn 41 out. Notify me if you dont get it.

[Atreides]

It is with great sadness that the nation of Caelum finds itself forced to call its banners once more, so soon after ending a prolonged war with the nation of Mictlan. Our scouts have watched the rapid expansion of the nation of Vanheim and observed the full extent of the Vanir War that has left the nation of Helheim broken and Vanheim a nation that cannot be opposed except by a coalition. Caelum hereby declares its intentions to oppose Vanheim with all its might, and invites the other nations of the realm into an alliance to oppose the Vanir war machine. My generals inform me that the Caelian Army can field some 1700 soldiers, with additional troops being mustered as required for the war effort. Though our lands are small in comparison to Vanheim, we have prospered magically. My armies stand shoulder to shoulder with enchantresses, wizards, tartarians, the kings of fire and earth, and the queens of air and water. All that being said, my forces alone cannot stop Vanheim. I will oppose the northmen regardless of the amount of support this declaration receives. But know this, if Caelum falls, there will truly be no stopping Vanheim. The nations of Mictlan and Abysia remain two of the more powerful nations in the realm and those I would request aid from the most. Mictlan, far removed from the conflict, I would ask for support in the form of gold and gems. Of Abysia, I ask you to ride to war with me. The only way that Vanheim can be subverted is the pressure of wars on two fronts. To the nations of Rlyeh, Kailasa, and Oceania, I would welcome you all with open arms to the coalition I have proposed. Those of you wishing to remain neutral in this conflict, that neutrality will be respected. To the vassal state of Lanka, your nation is currently considered a part of Vanheim and will be treated as such during this war until such time that you publicly renounce your diplomatic and military ties with Vanheim.
It is my hope that many of you will stand with me, for we fly to save the realm from the greatest threat it has ever known. This is our formal declaration of war upon the nation of Vanheim.

[johnarryn]

Vanheim can only smile in the face of the Caelian warmongering. For the Caelians reveal the lies behind their actions with their own words. By Caelum's own declaration, they possess a mighty army, many times larger than that of our own. By Caelum's own declaration, they have access to mighty magics with which to summon the Lords of the Elements. We also note that it was Caelum who most recently launched a war of expansion against Mictlan, seeking to bring more lands under their power, whereas Vanheim's recent war was provoked by Helheim's invasion.

Will you trust the word of Caelum, whose magical might clearly dwarfs all other nations? Look to your own borders if you trust the Caelians, for you may soon find their Tartarians at your gates.

Unlike Caelum, we do not arrogantly call on the other nations to accede to our demands. We merely wish to be left alone. Should Caelum's troops violate our borders, they will be throw back, as will all other invaders.

[GameExtremist]

Vanheim has large armies of twice blessed glamour warriors, mages which can hurl deadly magics from afar and a massive economy fueled by its extensive conquests.

It has Niefelheims capital...soon it shall have Helheims, Lanka is Vaneheims in everything but name.

Soon the world will bow down to Vanheims foul pretender of flatulence...unless the free people can unite!

[johnarryn]

None should be surprised that Helheim would support Caelum... after all, Helheim engaged in an unprovoked war on the people of Vanheim, and only through the righteousness of our cause did we prevail.

Indeed, we have mighty warriors... yet Caelum's magical might is greater, as his very words can attest... aiding Caelum is a sure recipe for disaster in the end.

[Atreides]

While Caelum must stomach the political machinations of Vanheim in these hallowed halls, we will not allow their hypocrisy to go unnoticed. Long are our memories, and long ago we remember the first war that came to this land. My scouts hovered over the battlefield while the Vans stormed Sauromatia and the ramparts ran red with the fallen of the amazon tribes. I would pose the question: "In what manner were these actions in line with your desire to be left alone?" You accuse me of expansionism in a war against Mictlan, yet Mictlan remains silent. You claim this war is to serve my people and to increase our territory, yet I have made it clear to Helheim that I will liberate his lands, not claim them for myself. Furthermore, I have granted the nation of Niefelheim asylum within my nation and established a small fief for them to rule, until such time that their lands can be liberated as well. These are not the actions of a conquerer, Caelum seeks to maintain the balance. And as for the hateful accusation that Caelum has made demands of other nations, one must simply read my formal declaration again to see that the accusation is baseless and without merit. Seldom are words such as "ask" "request" and "welcome" used when one nation makes demands of another. No matter how skilled a politician Enawardia of Vanheim might be, I fervently hope my fellow nations can see through the lies and deceit of this threat that can divide and destroy us. I mean to prove my words with action, and my forces will fight the powerful Vanir, and we will fall without aid, but we will fall with honor and the hope that others will avenge us.

[Valerius]

It is true that Caelum attacked Mictlan and may also be true that Helheim attacked Vanheim, though that was probably only a matter of attacking before Vanheim inevitably attacked them. Still, it is a bit too much to allow Vanheim's hypocrisy to go unchallenged. As Caelum points out, Vanheim's attack on Sauromatia undercuts his claim to moral superiority. But nations don't act on morality but practicality.

Practically speaking, if Vanheim defeats Helheim and Caelum the rest of the great powers are lost. If they think they will build their strength and be ready to face Vanheim then, they are fools. If you unite and defeat Vanheim you may strengthen Caelum and create a new threat but if you do nothing and let Caelum fall you are certainly lost. It seems better to gamble on a win than accept a certain loss.

I would also add, in the event that R'lyeh is charged with being a Caelian lackey, that I have had no contact with Caelum and thought they were in the wrong in attacking Mictlan.

Having said that, R'lyeh now prepares for destruction as gold and gems will certainly be sent by Vanheim to Oceania.

[johnarryn]

Sorry for the delay everyone... its a combination of me being busy and a few stray turns needing to be collected... we should be moving again soon.

[johnarryn]

Turn 43 out. Please try to get your turns in by 8 pm on Friday, June 28th.

[johnarryn]

Turn 44 out.

[johnarryn]

The nation of Vanheim will present one last warning to the assembled gods of our world: You must unite against Caelum, or you will fall. Already our forces have engaged the Queens of Air who fight at Caelum's command and who are armed with the finest weapons able to be forged by mortals. Our troops have fallen to the might of The Aegis and The Summit...

We have spotted Tartarians among the Caelian troops, and Kings of Fire. Against all this might we have only the skill of our troops who, though they may be the finest infantry in all the land, are hard pressed. With the full magical might of Conjuration and Construction at their fingertips, the Caelian generals will have difficulty failing to conquer all the land unless they are stopped by the combined might of the other nations. Caelum may seek to poison your minds with words against us, and indeed Vanheim is not without self-interest in this war. But should we fall the rest of the world will fall to ruins with us. Will you allow this to happen? You must decide your fate quickly.

[Atreides]

I believe the lord of Vanheim may be suffering from quite the terrible head wound, as he has twice referred to his own nation as that of a nation his forces are currently subjugating. Can we possibly trust the words of such a madman?

[johnarryn]

Surely the Caelian diplomats must be desperate to attempt such trickery. What madness do they speak of?

[Atreides]

Because I feel that everyone should enjoy this joke as much as I did, or maybe the fact that its 3 AM, johnarryn had originally referred to his nation twice in the above post as Helheim rather than Vanheim. Thus the edit.

[johnarryn]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about =)

[Micah]

you might want to remove the edit tag then.

[johnarryn]

I might edit your momma if you don't watch yourself, Micah.

Note: Micah and I are old friends. I wouldn't make such churlish towards just anyone =)

[johnarryn]

This game will be delayed by roughly 10 days... im moving and will not have access to the internet... sorry for the delay.
I will let you know when the game is up and running again.