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Methel
May 8th, 2007, 04:58 PM
Playing in a mp game as Ulm, I've made contact with all three elephant producing nations now, so I looking for some hints on handling the pachyderms.

Cor
May 8th, 2007, 05:32 PM
run.

more seriously,

-lots and lots of archers scripted to fire largest.
-Spells that hurt single targets badly, mind burn, frozen heart etc.
-dont waste money on elite troops since they will just get trampled anyway.
-flanking and killing leaders is always good
-spells that hurt moral are GREAT
-if you have acess to large troops like Trogs, buy/summon them.

Foodstamp
May 8th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Break their morale and the Elephants become your weapon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. Archers seem to do an excellent job as Cor suggested.

Micah
May 8th, 2007, 05:37 PM
Magma bolt and blade wind are going to probably be your best bets for your smiths. General evocation spells.

Ideally you'll pull an F2 smith random or a pretender with fire magic so you can cast flaming arrows (on indies, not your arbalests). Research this over evo if you can pull it off. You'll need conj 3 for power summoning regardless.

Dropping a few Curse of stones will help as well in a big battle, but it won't help much til your troops start getting trampled to death, and you want to keep them away with ranged attacks if at all possible.

It's not a pretty matchup for Ulm though. Good luck.

MaxWilson
May 8th, 2007, 07:22 PM
F2 smith won't work in 3.08 since Fire Arrows has been raised to F4. You'll need to forge a skull of fire or a flame helmet with your pretender or an F1D1 shaman.

-Max

Micah
May 8th, 2007, 08:29 PM
Yes it will Max. Phoenix Power to F3 and then an extra gem to bump your level to 4 since it only takes 1 to cast. I referenced needing conjuration 3 in my post. (You need it for blade wind even if you go the evocation route, which is a large upgrade over magma bolts)

MaxWilson
May 8th, 2007, 09:05 PM
Good point about the extra gem.

-Max

PvK
May 9th, 2007, 06:47 PM
Arbalests with orders to Fire at Large Monsters. Avoid directly engaging with heavily armored troops.

Shovah32
May 9th, 2007, 07:06 PM
Although in a last ditch effort(and with good timing) some flail troops can finish off the elephants.