Unholy blessing

[Kamamura]

I have read on several places that the unholy bless is broken, and that the undead sacred units cannot be blessed.

Can someone clarify on the subject - is it still broken and if it is, is it scheduled to be repaired in future patches?

Thanks in advance.

[Starshine_Monarch]

It is broken, but DrPraetorius has made a mod to fix that, so use that until it's officially fixed.

[Kamamura]

And where can I find this mod, can you please provide a link?

[The DarkOne]

Here you go
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=500877&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=all&vc=1

[Velusion]

Starshine_Monarch said:
It is broken, but DrPraetorius has made a mod to fix that, so use that until it's officially fixed.



FYI I think this fix does mean that indy priests for LA Ermor can't raise the dead anymore. Not sure if that is desired...

[Cor]

I dont understand what is broken. I was playing unpatched 3.06 LA ermor a few days ago and the blesses worked fine. Is it that indy preists cannot bless undead?

[BigDisAwesome]

It's that anyone who doesn't have Unholy powers instead of Holy powers can't bless Undead. So any nations that can somehow acquire sacred undead can't bless them. I think the fix just makes it so bless affects undead also.

[Cor]

Oh I see, I thought that was WAD. Guess not.

[Velusion]

BigDisAwesome said:
It's that anyone who doesn't have Unholy powers instead of Holy powers can't bless Undead. So any nations that can somehow acquire sacred undead can't bless them. I think the fix just makes it so bless affects undead also.



It does more than just that - as it makes indy priests for LA Ermor unable to raise the dead.

[thejeff]

It was working as designed.

Except that Ermor was the only nation with access to the unholy powers and other nations have sacred undead, (C'tis Tomb Wyrms, eg) but no way to bless them.
A better fix would be to come up with a logical way to assign unholy powers.

[DrPraetorious]

Incidentally, as far as I can tell it has no effect on indy priests ability or inability to raise the dead. Are you sure that isn't a patch change or another mod or something?

Given what it does (look at the mod file if you don't believe me) I can't imagine how it would possibly have such an effect.

[Kamamura]

I thought that unholy bless does not work at all (that even Ermor can't bless its undead).

If the problem is only that other nations like C'tis don't have priests with unholy bless, why not just mod in some extra carefully balanced units for them?

[thejeff]

I'm not sure what you mean by "mod in extra carefully balanced units"?

You could change their sacred undead to non-undead, I guess, but that's really changing the whole theme of the nation.

[Kamamura]

I meant add a priest unit (maybe weaker combat-wise) that would have unholy bless.

[thejeff]

Ah, I see.

It doesn't work like that. If I understand correctly, nations either have unholy bless or not. Thus all of MA/LA Ermor's priests (Not sure about EA?) can cast the unholy bless. No one else can.

It probably be more thematic the other way. Undead priests cast unholy bless, living ones cast holy bless. (Possibly with exceptions, like Ermor's Thaumaturges who should do both.) Base it on whatever reanimation is based on.

[Velusion]

DrPraetorious said:
Incidentally, as far as I can tell it has no effect on indy priests ability or inability to raise the dead. Are you sure that isn't a patch change or another mod or something?

Given what it does (look at the mod file if you don't believe me) I can't imagine how it would possibly have such an effect.



You're right! I need to switch the brand of crack I'm smoking.

I wonder if that was a different mod I was thinking did that...