Game: Outriders (started)

[Zachariah]

Server IP Address: www.evilzombies.com (http://www.evilzombies.com)
Port: 8097
Late Era, random map of 15 provinces per player, renaming enabled.
Quickhost or every 48 hours.
If you have a stale turn twice in a row, you'll become a computer player.
75 turn limit unless its close.

join now! I'll start it once at least 10, preferrably 15 folk have joined.

[Atreides]

I'm in. Are you assigning nations as we go, or are you going to wait for the game to fill up?

[Schaedelbaron]

i´m in too

taking Midgard

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Random nations, or first come, first serve?

[Ramiro]

count me in as ermor

[Jazzepi]

I'd like to try Ry'leh again XD

Jazzepi

[Ramiro]

ouch !.....hope this time we are not in war most of the game..........

[Jazzepi]

I'll make sure to attack you right away http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Seriously though, I don't carry animosity from one game to the next. You definitely deserved to win that one.

Jazzepi

[Atreides]

I should really learn to read, saw random nations where it says random map. I'll give Jomon a try.

[AreWeInsaneYet]

I'll try to in as Caelum

[Ramiro]

Hmm the server ip is 205.217.155.218 ?

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I'll pick LA Agartha.

[Jazzepi]

Lazy_Perfectionist said:
I'll pick LA Agartha.



Uh-oh, I know who I'm attacking.

Jazzepi

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Why, why are you so mean?
*weeps*


Well I hate R'lyeh anyways. So there!


For some reason, as Agartha (not necessarily as other nations), I have a tendency to irrationally desire war with R'lyeh, even if I have to pass up an easy target to do so.

Loosely speaking, when should I aim for getting a pretender in? I'll wrap up some of my other waiting turns, then experiment with LA, since I have tried them out yet. Here's hoping some MA experience carries over. Regardless, as long as I have fun...

[Jazzepi]

Yes, come into the sea, bring all those amphibious troops you have. The nation of R'yleh needs flesh!

Jazzepi

[GameExtremist]

Count me in as Ulm

[Remmy]

I'm in with an experimental (retarded) mitclan pretender

[PurpleRhino]

If the game is still open, I'll be Pangea.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

13 Or 14 out of 15 slots, 10 minimum

Atriedes Jomon
Schaedelbaron Midgard
Ramiro Ermor
Jazzeppi R'lyeh
AreWeInsaneYet Caelum
Lazy_Perfectionist Agartha
GameExtremist Ulm
Remmy (retarded) Mictlan
PurpleRhino Pangaea
Echodyne: Man Chelms
Tequilich: Patala
Rytek: Abyssia
Mythel: Tien Chi
Zachariah: Agartha

Did I get everyone? Was someone else trying to play as Agartha or did I upload a pretender and forget I've done so?

Anyways, I've uploaded my Agarthan pretender.

[Echodyne]

I'll take Man. Tentatively. I'll post again later.

[Tequilich]

Im sneaking in as Patala

[Rytek]

Im in as Abysia

[Methel]

I jumped in as TC

[Zachariah]

I'll start the game this evening.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Are you going to be in the game yourself, Zachariah, and as what nation?

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

A small mistake, both Zachariah and I wanted Agartha. We'll settle that between the two of us, but if I don't show up in the game its because I'm to lazy to learn a new nation, and don't have the time to design a pretender by this evening.

However it turns out, I'm fine with it. I've currently got SmokyBat and Jaguar to fulfill my Agartha cravings, and I do need to set aside some time to learn other factions, and come up with a plan for them. That is, if I wish to be able to join a wider variety of games, including the often overwhelming Random Nation type.

[PurpleRhino]

Any guestimate on start time?

[Cainehill]

You're looking for 15 players - seems Marignon, Atlantis, Ct'si, Utgard and Arco are open? Taking a look at them, if I get in (and you're still under 13 players when I look to upload), great. No mods, right?

[Cainehill]

Eh, never mind - forgot how much I .... prefer the game modded.

[Zachariah]

oh crap i'm a goof: i hadn't passworded my pretender god, so was overridden by someone else. I started over, this time with a password. Sorry everyone!

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I think that before the game starts, I can still override you, even if you do have a password. In the future, I'd advise stating your choice in the first post. Either that, or you forgot a password again.

I was careful not to upload one of my own, but the option did appear without asking me for a password. I wasn't willing to do a test and overwrite it to be certain how it works.

[Jazzepi]

I don't believe having a password helps you protect your pretender during upload.

Jazzepi

[Echodyne]

I'm definately in as Chelms.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Looks like I'm out. Enjoy. You needn't fear my experimental pretender, who I haven't yet practiced with, and has one key flaw.

On the other hand, I still have Smoky Bat to try out another pretender I've been working on, the Cyclops "Hillary Rodham Clinton".

[Zachariah]

well i'm in as Agartha, as I was originally. Super-lame if password protection doesn't work during nation selection.

Lazy, i hope you join us anyway.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I might, if you're still open tomorrow. But I need to rest tonight before I can be decisive enough to make a choice. Fortunately, no work tomorrow. Now though, tired = indecisive. When I'm truly hungry, for instance, it can take me a half-hour to choose what to eat. If I've taken off the edge, I can usually make up my mind in three minutes.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Tell ya what, I'll take LA Atlantis. I have some limited experience with them. I should be able to throw together a strategy and pretender within the day.
It looks like I might face R'lyeh again. You may have your fun yet, Jazzepi.

So... only nine pretenders uploaded?

[Jazzepi]

Lazy_Perfectionist said:
Tell ya what, I'll take LA Atlantis. I have some limited experience with them. I should be able to throw together a strategy and pretender within the day.
It looks like I might face R'lyeh again. You may have your fun yet, Jazzepi.

So... only nine pretenders uploaded?



Don't get too frisky just yet. LA Atlantis starts *above* the waves http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif LA Ry'leh is still master below them.

Jazzepi

[Bluebird]

I will join, too - I will join as Arco.

[Zachariah]

i'll kick off the game this evening: we're at 11, so hopefully there will be at least one more.

[coobe]

I would like to join as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif since there is no big choice, i´ll take Ctis. Gonna upload within 30 minutes after my post

[coobe]

hm... already a ctis pretender uploaded.... why is this ?

[Izzyz]

I'll try Marignon if you are still taking players. I'm working on a pretender, and should be uploaded within a couple of hours.

[RamsHead]

coobe said:
hm... already a ctis pretender uploaded.... why is this ?


It is quite simple. I already have taken them.

[Jazzepi]

As a suggestion to Zachariah there should really be a signup period for the game. Or at least a requirement to post which nation you're taking to prevent this sort of thing.

Jazzepi

[RamsHead]

I had uploaded my god last night and had not announced it. I sometimes prefer some anonymity in my games or at least for the early part of the game. Sorry for the confusion coobe. It is generally a good idea to login to the server to see which nations remain before you make your god.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Well, I've finally uploaded my pretender.

On the subject of anonymity, it would probably be a good idea some other time and thread to hash out some system for that. I can see positives and negatives for that, but the main issue is that it's hard for mp n00bs like me to pick up on the clues when anonymity isn't mentioned explicitly, and anonymous players naturally don't advertise etiquette for it.

Perhaps a poll could be used to keep track of joined members? Or declaration of anonymous at the beginning of the game? I'm just brainstorming, but since the problems been hashed out, I really don't care to clutter this thread further. It'd be interesting to see what a dedicated thread could come up with, or a game where players didn't declare their race, simply posting that they've joined after sending in a pretender?

Well, doesn't matter now, but I could see anonymity adding some fun, so I'd love to see some n00b friendly system for this or an anon/public/mixed tag for games.

[Rytek]

when is this game starting?

[coobe]

and now ? can i still join ? i mean its quite confusing if everybody would just join without saying what nation he wants. It jsut doesnt work that way....

[Zachariah]

omg, once again i was unable to play as my selected pretender! I just tried a test game w/ the same pretender, same settings, and it was fine, so I think someone must have bumped me.

I will start this game again, and I'm assuming that everyone's taking the same nation's that they originally selected. If not, just post to this thread. Please be respectful of other people's nation selections!

This time, before starting, I will make sure that everything is proper.

Sorry for the craziness!

[Zachariah]

I should add: all of the other game's I've run on this server have gone fine: this is the roughest yet.

But this time, all will go well, I'm confident! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[coobe]

hm what is with me ? can i still join ? i claimed Ctis as first so i should play them

[Bluebird]

Hmm - server has be wiped?

[Ramiro]

Guys please stop acting like 8 years old children!, there is a list with the races and players , respect it and stop kicking the host from Agartha please!!!.There are some slot free, please join us before the game start, but not kick a player from it selecter race.

The list !

13 Or 14 out of 15 slots, 10 minimum

Atriedes Jomon
Schaedelbaron Midgard
Ramiro Ermor
Jazzeppi R'lyeh
AreWeInsaneYet Caelum
Lazy_Perfectionist Agartha
GameExtremist Ulm
Remmy (retarded) Mictlan
PurpleRhino Pangaea
Echodyne: Man Chelms
Tequilich: Patala
Rytek: Abyssia
Mythel: Tien Chi
Zachariah: Agartha

[Jazzepi]

Host, let me make a suggestion. Before you start the game, reupload your pretender to your slot. Even if someone copies it over, you can always do that right before you start the game and ensure that you have the slot.

Jazzepi

[RamsHead]

Ramiro said:
Guys please stop acting like 8 years old children!, there is a list with the races and players , respect it and stop kicking the host from Agartha please!!!.There are some slot free, please join us before the game start, but not kick a player from it selecter race.

The list !

13 Or 14 out of 15 slots, 10 minimum

Atriedes Jomon
Schaedelbaron Midgard
Ramiro Ermor
Jazzeppi R'lyeh
AreWeInsaneYet Caelum
Lazy_Perfectionist Agartha
GameExtremist Ulm
Remmy (retarded) Mictlan
PurpleRhino Pangaea
Echodyne: Man Chelms
Tequilich: Patala
Rytek: Abyssia
Mythel: Tien Chi
Zachariah: Agartha



Odd. I had uploaded my pretender the night before last, and it was mentioned here later. It looks the the server has reset, but someone has taken my race. Very well.

[coobe]

i signed up as ctis, put me in the list plz

[Atreides]

Thank you for making that list Ramiro. I think a lot of people aren't monitoring the forum as much as others, and its only because Im currently active in a lot of diplomacy in 2 multiplayer games that Ive been on a lot and seen that this server keeps getting reset. I've personally had to upload my pretender 3 seperate times. May I also suggest that Zachariah please set a start date and time as there still seems to be a huge amount of confusion with this game. And to RamsHead, I certainly mean no offense in saying this, but it doesnt seem feasible to me to be able to participate in a game without stating that you are in it, which has subsequently caused a good bit of confusion as Coobe followed the path that everyone else has taken, in every game I've ever seen, of claiming the nation publicly on the game thread. That being said, we are well above the minimum number of players Zachariah wanted, so I hope me can get going sometime in the next day or so.

[coobe]

thanks atreides, i can only second that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[RamsHead]

Atreides said:
And to RamsHead, I certainly mean no offense in saying this, but it doesnt seem feasible to me to be able to participate in a game without stating that you are in it, which has subsequently caused a good bit of confusion as Coobe followed the path that everyone else has taken, in every game I've ever seen, of claiming the nation publicly on the game thread. That being said, we are well above the minimum number of players Zachariah wanted, so I hope me can get going sometime in the next day or so.



No offense taken. True, by not stating I had taken C'tis earlier, some confusion was created. I shall not do that in the future. Nonetheless, when coobe was confused, I revealed that I had uploaded my god as C'tis hours before he mentioned he wanted them. Despite my claiming of C'tis before he did (though not revealed until later on the thread), he uploaded his god for C'tis when the server reset. There is no right or wrong on this issue. Most here feel that the claiming of a nation only counts if it is on the thread. I feel differently. I will leave the issue at that though and bid goodbye.

[Zachariah]

yah, that's exactly what i should have done, and what i will do from now on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Zachariah]

thanks all for being understanding. We're up to 9 now, which is awesome, so hopefully by this evening we can kick it off.

[Izzyz]

I asked for Marignon, but was left off of Ramiro's list. I have again uploaded my pretender, and hope that this gets me a spot.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

13 in I think. Anybody still planning to get in who hasn't uploaded yet?

[fungalreason]

I'd like to join if it isn't too late. Taking Utgard since it looked like no one has claimed them.

[Bluebird]

Ok - is there a reason why I am not included in the list? I never got a rejection. I assume that everything is fine and I can play as Arco. My pretender still looks uploaded.

[Remmy]

Sorry guys I'm going o opt out of this game, too many running at the moment.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

15/15. I don't believe theres a reason you're not included on the list - theres been two list- none official- of players. And I think the cause is a simple lack of organization. You weren't rejected, and neither of us who posted a list are the game hosts.

FungalReason - if you've uploaded your pretender, it doesn't look like its too late. We're at the magic number, and I see Utgard is already human controlled. But Zachariah's the one to ask. If however, you haven't uploaded Utgard, someone's already taken that slot.

[Ramiro]

Hey guys I didn´t make any list: simply copied the previus posted by the host (chek the complete outrider forum)
The normal procediment when a new game is created without ramdom pretenders is claim a race in the forum, the first to claim it, get it... and please not overwrite any preterder without other justification.....

[Zachariah]

ok, finally kicked this sucker off. seeya on the battlefield!

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Big body of water here. I'll have to decide which way to expand, hmm... Pretty healthy world. Large body of water, few wastelands and swamps. No real mountains, of course, but at least I'm not Agartha.

2-48.

[GameExtremist]

Okay which idiot booted Ulm? It's not listed as a playable race.

Strange considering I uploaded a Password Pretender file more then 3 or 4 days ago.

I'd have to say this is the most poorly organised game I've had the displeasure of attempting to join.

[Zachariah]

Ulm was still open when I fired off the game on the 6th, and had yet to be claimed. Not sure what happened...

[Zachariah]

Hourly updated scores now available at:
http://www.evilzombies.com/dom3/Outriders.html

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I'm guessing you missed the reboot of the game, when we all had to reupload pretenders, GameExtremist.

The scores are interesting, sort of. But I want to see how they change once my pretender wakes up. Oh well. One long year. Perhaps I should have downgraded him a bit to make Awakened.

[Zachariah]

Come on Tien Chi, take your turn, or I will make you an AI before end of turn 3...

[Bluebird]

Zachariah said:
Hourly updated scores now available at:
http://www.evilzombies.com/dom3/Outriders.html



Great! Is there also a way to check the status (who we are waiting for, time until next hosting etc.) via Web, so I do not have to fire up Dom3?

[lch]

My PHP script that is used by some other people aswell can be downloaded here: Multiplayer Game statistics PHP script (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showthreaded.php?Number=496923)
Read the ReadMe carefully! Any feedback is welcome.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Good grief... I already see R'lyeh's capital, and Jomon's troops are already adjacent to my capital. And to the north are barbarian hordes- troops I'd handle quite easily if only I had archers. Is there a way out of this situation that doesn't involve war with Jomon and peace with R'lyeh?

I'll hold out a turn in the hope that there is some better outcome, (I may even accept advice from my enemies), but I'm really wishing my pretender was awake right about now.

[Rytek]

Jomon found a 4 gem province on turn 2. nice.

[Atreides]

That is the beauty of good magical diversity http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Rytek]

So, I am at work and did not get a chance to load my turn. Who got the bid for Hannibal?

[Jazzepi]

I did, but then he drown http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Jazzepi

[Rytek]

huh? I didnt think you could bid on mercs from water province?

[Jazzepi]

I was joking.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jazzepi

[Atreides]

The nation of Jomon, after being attacked with no provocation or warning from the nation of Atlantis, an incredibly foolish decision considering the state of his armies, declares war upon Atlantis. This unwarranted attack is sufficient casus belli and will be answered with force as I deem sufficient.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Fair enough. You have casus belli. I do dispute 'no provocation or warning', though I certainly didn't put effort into diplomacy.

Look up at post #535617 - 07/11/07 11:28 AM

I also dispute 'unwarranted', though I wouldn't dispute rash.
That province I attacked - the only one I planned to attack - is adjacent to my capital. As my scouts tell me, the same is not true for you. Given the proximity of Caelum on my east, you to my south, and R'lyeh to the west, I will allow no one to occupy a province adjacent to my capital. Even without this war, I doubt I'd be able to expand further than one province out in all directions.

I'm willing to pay for that province, if a truce is on the table, but I'm not willing to let it remain in hostile control. As I have received no messengers, I must assume the worst. Negotiations might fail, and leave me facing PD and an army. Simply unacceptable.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Oh for fs sake... Its like I can only expand by war.

I attacked an indie. I retreated after ONE casulty, before melee, and it wasn't even the captain.

R'lyeh attacked from the west, too. At least I managed to repel the cultists. I'm okay with the close starting positions, but I'm pissed at all these indies, especially those barbarian hordes.

To whomever it may concern (Caelum) my capital is in 86. The seizure of any directly connected province will be viewed as a hostile act and will be met with immediate, though limited retaliation, and not a full fledged war. If, however, someone insists on a full fledged war, they will regret it.

Such retaliations will be limited to only a siezure of the adjacent province. A repeat offender will marked for visitations by my god. Bring it on.

Peace is also welcome, because my pretender can only kickass one nation at a time.

[AreWeInsaneYet]

...and war is not what caelumian seek.
I'm here to offer a NAP that none of us may attack each other w/o 3monthes notify, to you, both Jomon and Atlantis. It's not even the end of the first year, indy commanders still rule the whole world and I see no reason of ignite a battle between any pretender this earlier. we know how hurt a early war is.
Atlan and Jomon, should any of you interested in sign a NAP with the humble Caelum, drop me a message here or via PM. If needed, in-game message is also acceptable.

[Jazzepi]

T'ien Ch'i staled last turn and now is the only nation left who hasn't taken their turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Hooray for 48 hour hosting.

Jazzepi

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Hooray for 48 hour hosting. I haven't had to juggle to find time for the game. That said, thanks for pointing out the staller, Jazzepi. If they haven't taken their turn 31 hours from now, when the game hosts again, they haven't taken their turn for 96 hours.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Now said, it seems shorter than 31 hours. I think you can put aside any worries of them stalling.

[Izzyz]

I can't log in to the server. When I go through the Dom III interface, the program just hangs. I can find Zachariah's website just fine, though. He mentions something about a new server on it. Are we still using the same IP and port?

[coobe]

Izzyz said:
I can't log in to the server. When I go through the Dom III interface, the program just hangs. I can find Zachariah's website just fine, though. He mentions something about a new server on it. Are we still using the same IP and port?




same problems here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Same here. But it functioned the next time I tried the same minute. So whatever the problem is, its neither the IP nor the port.

[Echodyne]

So for some reason, since yesterday, everytime i try to connect to the server, the program freezes. I'm working on it, but I appologize ahead of time if this slows down the turn change severely.

[Echodyne]

Problem fixed. Carry on.

[Jazzepi]

It's still happening. It's a bit intermittent though. I managed to log in after the last 10 attempts failed.

Jazzepi

[Izzyz]

Not fixed me. 0 for five tries. Hangs instantly, won't retrieve turn file.

[Jazzepi]

Okay, this is a really weird workaround, but try this.

1. Double click on your icon to connect, assuming you have the IP address and port loaded into the command line.

2. Click quickly, but not super fast, on the screen area.

For some reason, this allows me to get past the point where it stalls out and freezes at the "loading game" info screen.

Jazzepi

[Izzyz]

Really, really, weird. I have no connection icon, I am using the in-game interface where one field prompts for the IP, confirms, then opens a second field asking for port number, and confirms. On my third try, after reading your advice, I clicked 'OK' once, not twice, clicked on the screen, and got through! WTF???

[Jazzepi]

I have no idea why this works. I just have a psychotic need to constantly click when I have a mouse in my hand, and I discovered it on accident.

Jazzepi

[Zachariah]

not sure what the deal is with this one. It happens to me occasionally too, and not on other games, but usually after 1 bad try I get in. I can't really tell what the problem is: dom3 is the essence of a black box.

[Zachariah]

I AI'd Jomon cuz they were about to have a second stale turn.

[Kristoffer O]

Jazzepi notified me on the strange server behaviour.

I have a vague recollection of a similar event, but I can't remember what was causing it or if it was solved.

Have you tried restarting the server?

Gandalf might know something. He tends to remember (and generate) strange behaviours.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

... Arcosephale, Jomon, R'lyeh, Caelum. Very tight fit, unfortunately. The only one who's communicated with me is Jomon and Caelum. As it is, I'm currently under threat in three directions. By Fenrir's smelly behind, Ymir shall not give up! If Ragnarok it be, I will take down hundreds with me.

[coobe]

now it works for me just fine http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Jazzepi]

Same, did Zach reset the server?

Jazzepi

[coobe]

Ermor attacked the noble nation of Ctis, this will be revenged !!! I pay gems for anyone joining the war with ermor. They are somewhat weakened after the last battle, so use your chance !

[Jazzepi]

Ry'leh would be happy to help give an initial donation of gold to any nation who, bordering Emor, declares war on them and brings death to their endless legions. If you feel that your nation is a contender for such a donation, show us screen shots of Emor's territory and your border.

Jazzepi

[Ramiro]

... and again sending others to die for him.....

[Jazzepi]

<3 Ry'leh has a vested interest in seeing those who can enter the sea obliterated.

Jazzepi

[Ramiro]

I invite to all others nations to join our cruzade against ctis, they have nearly lost half his army and soon will lose most of them, they have an extense territorie and supose most of it will be undefended.

[Izzyz]

Marignon will pay handsomely for a Thistle Mace.

[coobe]

Ermor is lying. He suffered heavy losses and i got some suprises for him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Anyone near ermor could be hist next target, ermor never makes friends

[Ramiro]

well before talking about my terribles losses (a battle were I only lose 1 troop per enemy troop is a huge victory for me!) I suggest you check the graphs...and about friends... well I will only said I have never betray a pact or alliance...really I am a very frienly Emperor..
...Hmm you are expending a lot of time with the allien ambasador... reality lines becomes difuse .. the first symtom...I suggest to not plan you exile in the dreamlands... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Tequilich]

Anyone know who is playing Utgard?

[Rytek]

holy cow, how does Caelum have so many provinces so fast!!

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Just to check, since things have been so quiet on my southern front. Are we still in a state of war with you, Jomon, and no possibility of peacetalks?

[AreWeInsaneYet]

Grrr...I want to hear from jomon, too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Decided. We're still at war. WAR!

Seal Hunters parties raiding R'lyeh, who's neglected a lot of defense. I won't take him out with that, but it should prevent him from getting a huge advantage from his underwater position.

My pretender's moving against Jomon now. We'll see whether I moved to soon. I've practiced in mp games quite a few times, and learned quite a bit, but I'm always finding a new way to kill him off.

Utgard's down there too? You can PM me if you want to coordinate anything to the extent of a war pact, avoiding each others forces, or declaring war upon each other.

... Lots of cold resist... I'd rather fight Jomon than Utgard.

[Jazzepi]

The mad dreamers of Ry'leh will happily intercept your small raiding parties soon enough. We will introduce them to our rift gate, and see if their tiny brains can comprehend noneuclidean geometry.

Soon enough your capital will make a delightful sea-side prize. Please make sure to dust the carpets for us.

Ry'leh

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I hope to give your Illithids brain-freeze, by the way...

You're going to attack me anyways, so I might as well sow as much low-expense havoc as I can to prevent you from being a million times stronger than me when you attack.

The Mournful of Ice and Bone laugh at the madmen of R'lyeh... They declare their intent to take out amphibious nations, hold the only water province adjacent to my capital, and then don't defend anything. They're not mad, they're special ed. Noneuclidean my froggy behind.

[Jazzepi]

Sorry, we were too busy conquering the rest of the ocean to defend a single province http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Jazzepi

[Gandalf Parker]

Kristoffer O said:
Gandalf might know something. He tends to remember (and generate) strange behaviours.



ROTFL!
I actually treat that as a compliment.
Sorry I didnt see this sooner. Especially if its already settled.

I dont think we ever did pinpoint the bug. The closest we got was that apparently you can slip in sometimes, and sometimes not. It seems to have something to do with the game being distracted by a bad connection (the freeze screen) and letting the next one thru. If you do the steps provided, then you can often fill both bills. Create a freeze, then slip thru quickly on a second try while its still distracted.

It seems to hit mid-sized games for some reason more than others. The 2-4 player blitzes dont seem to have it. The monster game doesnt seem to have it (knock on virtual wood). But around 10 players it showed up on my server.

The mid-sized games both had it but only for awhile then cleared up after about a week. I "fixed" it by leaving a connection to the game continually from my desktop machine. For some reason, that seemed to let everyone in OK.

Gandalf Parker

[Rytek]

To Marigon: Ouch, I saw that fight. Slingers taking out your commanders is a tough break.

[Izzyz]

!@#$%*! right. I erred in not having extra commanders anyway. Oh, well. If at first you don't succeed...Say, perhaps you were gathering intel about my playstyle for our upcoming festivities. Maybe I'll act stupid to lull you into a false sense of security. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Rytek]

Hah, you look to be strong enough to take the 2 of us!

[Rytek]

I cant seem to connet to the server

[Zachariah]

I'm AI'ing Tien Chi, cuz they're going to stale 2nd time in a row this turn.

[Rytek]

"I strode into the decadent hall of the foul Marigons. False practitions of fire and blood magic. My Abyssian Plate boots echoed loudly in the great hall. I was escorted by 20 men at arms to a chamber filled with old men in robes. My hands held tightly onto the red rubie my master had given me. His words came into my mind. "keep this stone safe. Use it when your life is in peril. To use it you must crush it and cry out the name of our Lord."

One of the old men spoke. "Abyssian, why have you come here seeking an audience with us? Speak"

I spoke that which my master had commanded of me. My voice echoed in the small chamber. "Know this, I am Cremnian, herald to the great prophet Vapula. Our Lord and master, Asmodeus, considers the men of Marigon weak practitioners of Fire and Blood magic. Asmodeus declares that the men of Marigon will die. The women will be used as slaves and your childeren will be sacrificed to the Abyss. Your lands will burn, your false prophets and gods shall be play-things for the Horrors of the Abyss. PREPARE FOR THE END"

The chamber was still. The old men started to rise from their chair crying out in rage. From a dark alcove that I did not notice before there came a hiss "Kill him" The men at arms rushed forward, broad swords drawn for the kill. Some of the old men were chanting some words of power. A flash screamed in my chest and I realize a crossbow bolt had pierced my plate armor. Then I remembered the gem. I crushed it with my remaing strength and cried out "ASMODEUS"--- Darkness, then a blinding light of the void. Right before I passed out I saw the familiar form of my master bending over me...



--A page from the journal of Cremnian, herald of Vapula the eyeless who is prophet to the Great Asmodeus, rightful ruler of the world--

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Dramatic:

R'lyeh shows their treacherous nature yet again, they show the true nature behind their offer of peace when they send their spawn to mark my god for the horrors of the astral voids.

The only thing keeping me from retaliating against this filth is the lack of water breathing. These dire circumstances have forced me to skin one of their mindless Shamblers and forge a minor magical artifact.

Out of Character
I'm willing to take out loans in 200/400 gold chunks to assist in a temple push back out to sea, to give me much needed mr dominion bonuses. I'm willing to trade water forged items or gems for magic resistance boosters or reinvigoration items. I'm also willing to pay a lease fee for the rental of the same.

R'lyeh did make an offer of peace if I stopped raiding while they attacked Arcosephale. I didn't respond but did cease raiding while I ramped up and achieved construction two for a fighting chance. My pretenders' probably been horror marked eight times. In this game, I consider R'lyeh untrustworthy, especially since they already expressed a desire for the extinction of any races that can go beneath.

[Jazzepi]

We made an ovature of peace, and noticed that you had received our message but not responded. Unfortunately for you silence is as good as an answer of no.

Let your God's many, many horror marks be a lesson to that. The people of Ry'leh do not take kindly to being ignored.

Jazzepi

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Personally, I do not take sincerely any offer of peace that comes after declarations of genocidal intentions.

[Izzyz]

The old man, clad all in black, gazes steadily at the younger man before him, swathed in red and gold.
"So, it has come to this at the last?"
"Yes."
"And now?"
"I leave immediately to take to the field with the army."
"And the enemy?"
"They are foul, twisted mockeries of humanity. The taint within them will be their undoing. The power of the Divine will unmake them!"
"You have always been devout."
"As you taught me to be."
"Indeed I did. Did I never teach you to doubt your haste, or to question?"
"Never on matters of faith, or right and wrong."
"So you will destroy them?"
"What else is there to do?"
The silence hangs between them, and lengthens.
"And yet, I pity them," says the old man at last.
"I do not! They are evil incarnate, bathed in the flames of hell, who march upon our borders even now, bearing the blood of demons in their veins! I go to deliver them from their loathsome existence and render unto them Divine justice!"
"My blessing upon you, then."
Another silence, which ends as the younger man inclines his head, backs to the door and leaves. The black, iron-bound door is heavy, but makes no sound as it swings shut.
"And that is why I pity them."

[Jazzepi]

I believe that Man has staled the last few turns. Can we set him to AI?

Jazzepi

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Yea! I finally have a dominion foothold in the sea. If I keep it up, I'll weaken their dominion and freespawn. They fortunately won't have any easy time setting up dominion walls thanks to the lack of chokepoints.

I have some military strategies to try against him that I'd never dare risk against other nations, but perhaps will be just what the calamari calls for.

In Veturi, I got rather familiar with Atlantis, though I didn't face any astral nations, let alone Rlyeh. They were surprisingly effective against Ctis - though I'll probably have to think in the opposite direction against R'lyeh.

In Jaguar, I faced R'lyeh, (albeit MA), and became familiar with many of their troops and playstyle- though had an entirely different set of tools as Agartha.

So, I haven't been in this exact situation, but I'm not coming in completely cold, either. Pun not intended.

[Jazzepi]

Don't worry, the mad dreamers of Ry'leh have beguin a temple construction program. Money well spent! Get in line for your lobotomies now instead of later.

And do let us know which foul horror besets your God. I believe we marked him over 30 times.

Jazzepi

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

And that's a horror? Yawn. What a bore. Dead in one swing. I've heard there are more impressive ones later on, but come on... are you trying to make me die laughing?

I'm quaking in my boots. 30 hitpoints? Guess how much strength I have? Here's a hint- while you may have seen my titan pretender in another thread, he's got +10 dominion bonus to strength while in my own capital. I could wipe out that horror with a frigging qtip or Nerf(tm) or wiffle bat, let alone the great sword I come equipped with...

I'll be sure to catalog my kills for your enjoyment.

Kill #1, dead in one turn

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I was reminded lately, so I just wanted to say to our hoster, Zachariah, thank you.

In other news, I'm quite glad to hear you've started a temple construction program, Jazzepi. Your Illithids are surprisingly cheap, but every temple you build is quite a bit less mind-blasting for me. Now if my raiders just manage to take a few temples out, instead of dying after the first province.

[Jazzepi]

Thankfully we build our temples behind fortress walls. Though, please, bring your God into our Dominion ten capital and we'll see how many horrors he can kill with a q-tip then.

Jazzepi

[Bluebird]

Hi, because of vacations, PashaDawg is subbing for me until the end of the month. Have fun ...

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Second or third dead horror, same as before.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Fourth dead horror, same as before.

Yikes...

I have managed some nice kill rates with smaller forces... but that might be a bit much.

[Jazzepi]

Your capital will make an excellent addition to our collection http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

Jazzepi

[Jazzepi]

Can Man please be set to AI? He has no fortresses, no income, a tiny army, and just staled the last turn.

Jazzepi

[Jazzepi]

Oh, and let it be known! The forges of the mad dreamers are open to those that need items crafted. We charge a premium, don't expect any rock bottom prices from us, but we can make any non-artifact item.

Jazzepi

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

I am subbing for Bluebird while he is away.

I can't seem to connect to the game right now. Is the server down?

Thanks.

Pasha

[Jazzepi]

Read further back into the thread. The server's up, there's a few work arounds.

1. Try clicking repeatedly when the "connecting" screen comes up.

2. Try opening up a first failed connection, and connecting with a second game while the first failed one hangs.

Jazzepi

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I've had little luck connecting, either, despite trying both those tricks. I think this is a little different.

[PashaDawg]

I have been trying to connect all morning, and I am worried I'm gonna stale. Any chance of stopping the clock for today to allow time to resolve the connection issues? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Rytek]

I can't connect either

[Schaedelbaron]

me too

[fungalreason]

I was able to connect, but it took about 8 tries

[Ramiro]

can´t conect.....

[PashaDawg]

I have tried many, many times over the past 3 days. Would it make sense to restart the server?

[Jazzepi]

I messaged Zach, but I haven't gotten a response.

Jazzepi

[Jazzepi]

This game is up. I would recommend opening multiple windows as you try again and again.

Try to rapidly click on the center of the screen, near the "connecting" box. I can usually get in on my 4th or 5th try.

Jazzepi

[Zachariah]

yah, its weird: this particular game just hangs. i can always connect on 2nd try. i've tried restarting the process, but that didn't help.

[Jazzepi]

Would it be possible to reboot the server?

Jazzepi

[PashaDawg]

Dang it. I still cannot connect. I am on a Mac. I am not sure if it makes a difference, but the program just freezes. I have to force quit the program and restart it. This was not happening a few days ago, which is why it is so strange.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Ymir.... died in a retreat. Untouched, but other troops fled. Because I couldn't connect, I stalled and he had no retreat path...

Staling, connection issues have kilt me. At least I know my pretender designed worked, or would have, if I'd been around to play it.

Switching to AI, giving some loot (~15 pearls and water gems), 25 gold to Utgard- plus some minor artifacts. This is a favor for actually responding to my request for mr items. I wasn't paralyzed once in this last battle.

For everyone's information, the province of Elkland (101) comes with a construction bonus.
rt R'lyeh into a pulp, because I have only one province left - and its not my capital. I can't do it myself.

R'lyeh? You would have been an interesting opponent, if I'd been around to fight you. While I hate you now, it won't carry over into the next game. If I'd simply said something the first time I'd noticed I couldn't connect instead of waiting for others to chime in first, I wouldn't be in this mess. Lesson - complain earlier. Not any louder or more frequently, just earlier.

In the meantime, may your seas dry up, your dreams involve Hello Kitty, and your meteor turn out to be a weather balloon.

[Jazzepi]

That's part of the hazard of using a SC with a ton of other units. Once you lose a certain percentage of your field, everyone routes. That's the reason I attacked the other two provinces at the same time. Though your pretender God was leaking fatigue fast, towards the end of the battle, before he routed, he was up to 90 fatigue or so. Very close to passing out. I doubt that he would have survived the fight even without the routing, but you never know. Morale 50 guys always make their awe check, and once he's asleep he's an easy target to nickle and dime to death through afflictions (especially blindness).

I'm sorry you couldn't connect, it sucks, but I've been trying to help people out on here as I'd much rather have a game with opponents who can fight back. I was pretty adamant with my posts that the server was still up, I even posted multiple times on how to get past the screw up. I really wish Zach would try resetting the server instead of just the process. I'm surprised this wasn't step #1.

>In the meantime, may your seas dry up, your dreams involve >Hello Kitty, and your meteor turn out to be a weather >balloon.

I don't think that'll happen anytime soon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Though our population keeps dying off. I thought you had an interesting pretender build, and I can offer some advice from my POV if you'd like. I probably wouldn't have gone W10, the different between that one point of defense is negligible compared to what those extra points would have been worth in scales, or other magic paths. I also would have built more of those sacred units. I thought they were quite good.

Jazzepi

[Jazzepi]

Whatever happened worked. The server appears to be easy to log into now. I didn't have to do any tricks.

Jazzepi

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

If I hadn't stalled who knows how often in a row, I would have removed the boots of trampling. Who knows, w/o flight AND trampling, I may have been able to take advantage of my 10 reinvig.

Yeah.. I don't blame you any for taking on the staller. Yeah, that tenth point of water wasn't really valuable. And I could have afforded to remove some earth, air points (randoms), in the pursuit of awakened. Though that tenth point does give me a slightly stronger bless for 64 points, I still am limited to capital only.

Despite your directions, I still was unable to connect until that last time. I even started multiple instances of the game.

I was surprised with my sacreds, as well. They were pretty effective w/o any bless. Now to use them blessedly well...

Do you think I would have been better off dropping to 8 water? It would free up another 56 points, and quickness isn't that necessary when I have spellcasters capable of casting it (but better), and capital only sacreds.

Air didn't offer as much to my pretender as I'd hoped. Mist form WAS good, mirror image was lacking, and anti-arrow was nice, but eventually replacable.

I think I would need to gear my pretender to underwater expansion. I might experiment with going with the Son of the Sea, and sea how that lack of cold-theme affects my combat fatigue, scale boni, etc.

[Izzyz]

Not for me. If I can't log on tonight, I'll likely stale. At which point, I'm through, despite the fact that I still have a competitive position. At least I will be done with twitch-clicking a dozen times to try to log into this game. Unfortunately, if I can't log on, I can't set myself to AI. Any suggestions?

[Jazzepi]

Yeah for a second there it was working fine, now it isn't anymore =\

You could find someone else to sub for you that's willing to work through the weirdness to connect and give them your password.

Jazzepi

[fungalreason]

Was able to log on this morning, but again it took about 8 iterations of attempting to connect and then killing dom3.exe.

[Tequilich]

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[fungalreason]

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[Tequilich]

Hmm, I guess I must have forgotton after not connecting for a few turns... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

[fungalreason]

No worries http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif On the bright side, whichever party loses won't have to deal with the connection issues any longer.

[Zachariah]

so looks like a whole lot of people staled the last two turns (at least). Should we just kill this poor game, and start a new one? Again, this game was the only one that had this connection problem, and i still don't really know why.

[Jazzepi]

I'm still playing, and in good position, but it is extremely frustrating to have half the players suddenly drop out =\

Have you tried restarting the server instead of just the process?

Jazzepi

[Jazzepi]

Midgard, Agartha, Marignon, and Ermor are about to stale. I know they are having connection issues. If those players can no longer play from connection issues, or no longer wish to go through the hassle of connecting, perhaps we could try to find replacements?

I know Emor's position is strong. Marignon is doing okay though under threat by two nations. Argatha is being consumed by Emor, I think, and I have no idea about midgard.

Could the players for those nations please speak up so that we could either find a replacement, or set them AI?

I, for one, haven't given up on this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jazzepi

[Izzyz]

Hi all,
It is hard enough to play well when in full command. Without being able to connect consistently, I can't play well enough to want to continue. I have a powerful position, and anyone is welcome to it. I have not set a password, so anyone who can connect is welcome to take over, or set me to AI. I would welcome a new game, though. Unless someone posts confirming that a reboot has fixed the connection problem, I will no longer even try to log on. Sorry to all of you that have winning positions, and to my opponents for giving up the fight. I'll get you next time!

[Schaedelbaron]

midgard here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

i don´t want to continue so set to AI or replace.
was fun though

[fungalreason]

I would continue, but it seems like more than half the people have stopped/lost interest.

[AreWeInsaneYet]

I've lost interest as well. Missed three turns thinking the server's down. Is there anyone interested in sub a big, well run nation, with 3 capitols?
If not, I guess I'll set to AI this turn.

[Jazzepi]

Meh. I think I'm going to go AI myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Jazzepi

[PashaDawg]

Hmm. Still having trouble connecting.

Is it safe to assume that this game is ending?

[AreWeInsaneYet]

It's ended...for me. After a series of connection failure I can't even get myself AIed. Frustrating.

[PashaDawg]

Bluebird has returned and will take over Arco, if the game continues.

[Tequilich]

My puter has a heart attack when I open dom3 4-5 times to log in to this game so I am headed to AI. sorry.

[Rytek]

LOL. OK so me and marigon fight it out. I make this huge communion of warlocks and have one of the leaders cast hellpower for hah hah.Another one casts power of the spheres. Then the plan was to spam horror marks everywhere while summoning horrors. Hah, I didnt realize hell power horror marked the guy casting it. So, there are like 8 horrors attacking everywhere. Mostly on my warlocks who have all been horror marked through the communion. my army of flaming slingers and arrows are shooting everywhere. its total mayham. I'm not quite sure how I only had 3 warlocks die. But now they are all horror marked! heh. thats what i get for trying stuff that i havent tested.

[Jazzepi]

This game is dead. Please wait until the next turn, at least, before taking down the game service, I'm trying out some golem SCs and I want to see how they do.

Jazzepi

[Rytek]

I have gone AI. I am tired of trying to connect 8 times before finally connecting.

[Jazzepi]

I got to see my SCs in action. Feel free to take down the game.

Jazzepi