View Full Version : Project for long winter evenings...
Marek_Tucan
September 19th, 2007, 07:12 AM
Finally found a nice sweet spot of Czechoslovakian border line fortifications where it is possible to capture the entire line on map...
It's the Bratislava-Petrzialka bridgehead, the only fully completed portion of fortified line. More details here:
Tank-Net post (http://63.99.108.76/forums/index.php?showtopic=21933&st=20)
Going to create the map. That would take a long time as it would be 200x160 map but the result would be interesting I believe. River, three bridges to cross and all that...
But at first I'd have to choose some easier portion of the fortified line (and smaller) where would I be able to try out correct in-game placement of both heavy and light pillboxes.
So... No deadline for now. Just to let you know of the idea.
PanzerBob
September 20th, 2007, 12:25 AM
Look forward to bashing up against/defending from, these defences. Sounds interesting.
Prosit!
Marek_Tucan
September 28th, 2007, 06:28 AM
Progress report:
Danube river - all the way across the map, done
Bratislava - downtown almost done, now closing in for the Castle hill.
You can see it on the attached image - red line marks level of Lev. 1 hill, orange line is Level 2 and bright blue is Level 3. Moving from Panonia lowlands to Carpathia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
For this map, one height level = 10 meters.
EDIT: Err, forgot to attach the image http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6779/petprogresswc3.th.png (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=petprogresswc3.png)
PatG
September 28th, 2007, 08:31 AM
Nice!
Where do the forts go?
Marek_Tucan
September 28th, 2007, 12:58 PM
To the left (ie Southern - had to rotate the map to fit to 200x160 window) bank of river, ie there where there is nothing yet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Have chosen to start with the city at first, as it's the hardest part, what with all the streets and houses.
In final state the map will have three variants:
1938 - only one bridge, old railroad pattern (based on German maps)
1970's/80's - what you see, three bridges, tramway network
2000's - two more bridges, highway
Marek_Tucan
September 29th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Update: Finished entire Northern bank of Danube river, complete with Old Town heights (reached to level 14). Now beginning to work on the other bank, ie on Petrzalka bridgehead itself.
Marek_Tucan
September 29th, 2007, 05:37 PM
Update 2 (Yup, had nothing better to do today http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif But tomorrow I'll be off entire day so it'll balance out)
Waters (ie dead arms of Danube) in Petrzalka set, most of southmost block of big concrete blocks of flats set (will go away on 1938 map), quite a long stretch of both railway and main roads set, large parts of forest planted.
If it wasn't for my inability to count properly repeated few times, I'd have moe, but had to correct river, rework one dead arm for about three times before getting it right (no minor glitches, mistakes were in order of 500 meters so I couldn't overlook them).
PatG
September 30th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Is the Winter Harbour natural or artificial? It looks very similar to an ancient Carthaginian trireme base on the coast of Lebanon (could be Libya).
Marek_Tucan
September 30th, 2007, 04:26 PM
Artifical, though I don't know how old - probably late 19th/early 20th century. In 1938 it's already there.
Marek_Tucan
October 3rd, 2007, 06:34 AM
Another development pic here:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4827/petprogress2gr1.th.png (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=petprogress2gr1.png)
Covers large part of 1970's-1980's newbuilt blocks of flats.
Marek_Tucan
October 5th, 2007, 03:43 PM
Just to let you know I don't sleep (yet)...
Today finished everything below the railroad to Hungary. Plus some fields (off screen to the left = South). Plus, for orientation purposes, used beach sand to draw the current border line.
On this screenshot, you may see positions of several bunkers - squares are heavy objects (though some of them are "old" - built in 1935 before the forts were typised, on initiative of commander of forces in Slovakia - the "old" objects were armed just with machineguns, some were really bristling with them, but in 1937 they were reworked to better fit into typised patterns, meaning usually limiting armament and filling up some loopholes with concrete to increase protection) and white circle is one of three vz.37A type light objects (exception to the rule, while standard weapon of vz.37 objects was vz.26 LMG, in Petrzalka bridgehead all three objects built had two HMG's).
AARGH! Forgot to add a link to pic!
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1261/petprogress3ed8.th.png (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=petprogress3ed8.png)
Marek_Tucan
October 9th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Yay! Finished Slovakian part, going to Austria! So now just two towns, one high hill and lots of fields remaining http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Yellow line is border, screenshot covers left (ie south) part of the map.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7467/petprogress4ji6.th.png (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=petprogress4ji6.png)
Marek_Tucan
October 11th, 2007, 03:06 PM
Yay! It's done! Atleast in its first incarnation. Uploaded it on MBT forums as its timeframe suits it more than WW2, here's the link:
WinSPMBT Map thread (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=555852&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=#Post555852)
PanzerBob
October 11th, 2007, 10:55 PM
Thanks, I just DL'd it. Your hard work is appreciated by me. Bravo Zulu on the Map.
Prosit!
Marek_Tucan
October 12th, 2007, 01:29 PM
Update: 1938 variant coming to life. Had to use fantasy on lots things - position of forest tracks, exact shape of Danube arms, swamps etc., but so far all the superfluous buildings gone, all the missing buildings added, positions of all bunkers marked, superfluous bridges and roads deleted... - on the Petrzalka bank. Bratislava awaits cleansing, as well as Berg and Kittsee in Austria. Plus lots of forests to be planted.
Marek_Tucan
October 13th, 2007, 07:09 AM
1938 map is ready here.
EDIT: Found fatal mistake, impassable bridge. Fixed.
DRG
October 13th, 2007, 11:44 PM
Very Nice. I can include these with the next patch if you like
Don
Marek_Tucan
October 14th, 2007, 04:53 AM
I'd like it, thanks for the offer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Marek_Tucan
November 8th, 2007, 05:43 PM
Okay, here's the scenario.
Just few words - I am no good at scenario design, and German side is here just pure guesswork of two infantry regiment-scale attack.
For Czechoslovakian side, I tried to simulate the
I had few informations about the exact composition of Petrzalka defences. I knew forts were manned by border battalion no.50, formerly IV. battalion of RInfantry Regiment no.39, and that there were two pre-planned battalion HQ posts and one regimental, and the bn posts were placed in such a way that suggested splitting into two sectors with Kittsee road as the axis. So I have decided to man the bridgehead with a better part of the regiment - bn. no.50 mand forts, Infantry Battalion I. and II. are manning prepared trenches in second line of defense.
To load this scenario, you need to download also my modified Czechoslovakian OOB, in OOB section of this forum (will add link once I'll add the post).
Thread with OOB (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=562797&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=#Post562797)
johannavich
November 22nd, 2007, 03:48 PM
thank you!
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