EPOTARA - Pythium Wins!! (Ironhawk Rules)

[PashaDawg]

Greetings:

This game is on the Epotara Map that I made. You can find the map here: Epotara Map (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=553219&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

We will be using the Late Era Scenario.

This will be a PBEM game (that is, Play By Email).

The Settings:

Victory Condition:  Victory Points (non-cumulative);  One in each capital.  Need 5 to win (roughly 30%)
Late Era 
Conceptual Balance Mod (Pretenders and Scales Only)
Worthy Heroes Mod  1.8
Endoperez's "Quickfix" Mod
Streamers & Standards Mod
Indies 7 
Site Frequency 50
Money 100
Resources/Supplies 100 
Random events common 
Score Graphs on
Hall of Fame 15 
Standard Research
Renaming allowed

Hosting schedule:  Daily turns through Turn 15, and then switch to a Sunday / Tuesday / Thursday schedule. Deadlines will generally be at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Here is a link re Boston Time for your convenience. Boston Time (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43)


Players:

1. Abysia - Sir Dr D
2. Agartha - Cerlin
3. Arco - Aristander
4. Atlantis - Pashadawg
5. Caelum - Morkilus
6. C'Tis - Stelteck
7. Jomon - DonCorazon
8. Man - Ramshead
9. Marignon - Aethyr
10. Midgard - Aezeal
11. Mictlan - Dragonfire11
12. Pan - Wokeye
13. Patala - Cainehill
14. Pythium - Ironhawk
15. Tien Chi - Meglobob
16. Ulm - djo
17. Utgard - Bluebird


Start Date: Friday, Nov. 16. (Maybe Saturday due to the new player.)

Thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[archaeolept]

cainehill's around?

i'd love to join... but i've got 3 games going as is - even if one is a "temporary sub" lol

[DonCorazon]

Count me in on this too! Any good LE nations for noobs like myself?
Thanks!

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I am interested...

I'll know if I'll be able to join by this weekend. Don't reserve a slot for me unless I post a list of five preferences, or private message.

If I decide I can't join, I'll offer myself as a sub for whomever might need such.

[Aethyr]

I'm interested, please reserve a spot for me.

I have not played a LE game yet, so I'll have to do some testing and get back to you w/nation preferences. Should I PM you or post my preferences here? Thanks

[Aezeal]

I would like in.
I need a few pointers though.. the balance mod I can understand... to balance things a bit mroe I guess.. shouldn't be a problem

What does the worthy heroes mod do and how will it affect my game, are there things I should do (get mroe luck ?)

please explain.

I'll post my race choice later (LA nub here) IF I'M getting late in responding PLEASE message me I don't want to miss another game.

[PashaDawg]

Welcome DonCorazon, LP, Aethyr, and Aezeal.

DonCorazon: I wouldn't worry too much about what nation you choose. Just review the various choices and then choose the ones that make the "cool light" go on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Lazy_Perfectionist: It would be *great* if you'd play! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif There is a chance that we won't be able to start this weekend because we're waiting on Quantum_Mechani to update the Conceptual Balance mod for 3.10. Also, we might not have 17 players quickly enough.

Aethyr: You got a slot! You're welcome to PM me your preferences or post them here. I will also send you my email address via PM.

Aezeal: The Worthy Heroes mod simply tweaks the national heroes a little so that the heroes are "mucho funner and specialer". It is not a huge change, and I would not alter your pretender design because of it. Glad you'll be joining us.

[Meglobob]

Aezeal said:What does the worthy heroes mod do and how will it affect my game, are there things I should do (get mroe luck ?)

please explain.



The worthy heroes mod and indeed the epic heroes mod (MA only) are great. They do exactly what they say, you get great, groovy heroes. Which generally are alot better than in the normal game.

Download the mods and improve your SP game fun considerably. Remember to see the heroes you have a better chance if you take Luck 3 as one of your scales. I think this gives you 5% chance per turn of one turning up. But I am not 100% certain on this.

[Amhazair]

I heard the chance of getting a hero was 3%/turn +/- your luck scale, so 6% for luck 3, 0% for misfortune 3. I didn't test it myself, so don't quote me on this.

[Sir_Dr_D]

Conceptual balance mod, alright. Sign me up.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

When does the game expect to start? Or rather... after a nation is assigned to me, will I have time to practice or need I select nations I'm familiar with?

[archaeolept]

one week for final pretender submission sounds about right


;p

[Aezeal]

so with that mod luck 3 is a must?

[PashaDawg]

Hi LP: I originally hoped to start the game by Sunday, but we need to wait until we have enough players and if we're gonna use the CB mod, we need to wait for QM to update it. If it is going to take QM a long while, then I would recommend that we play Vanilla.

Aezeal: No. Luck 3 is not a must unless you really want the heroes, and they are in no way essential for winning the game. Also, many strategies involve opting for misfortune in order to use the design points elsewhere.

[Aezeal]

a vanilla game would be ok with me..

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Thanks, Pashadawg, but that's not the answer I'm looking for. Let me rephrase my question:

Roughly speaking (and I won't hold you to this), when will nations be assigned? Roughly speaking, how long after that will it be until we need our pretenders in and the game gets going?

I am specifically interested in how much time I will have to get ready once I'm assigned a specific nation, and whether I can afford to pick a nation I'm unfamiliar with or whether I'll need to select only ones I'm already ready to play.

[PashaDawg]

Hi LP:

I would say we'll have about 1 - 2 days to submit pretenders.

Should I put you on the list of players, or are you still thinking about it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Pasha

[archaeolept]

my experience w/ the old cb mods and 3.10 is that the spell mod and the nations mod give an error, but the simpler pretender and scale mods don't. oh, and if we were to have until next weekend until we started (since i have no experience w/ late game nations, and would need to experiment on a pretender a bit), I'd consider (against my better judgement and all that is holy) joining in the fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Hmm... I'm still thinking about it. It's a problem that the only Late Era race I've played is Atlantis. There's plenty of others I'm interested, but haven't played before.

[Bluebird]

Well Lazy - time for some experimentation. I am also trying to pay a nation that I have no real experience with ... do not try to be over-prefectionistic :-)

[Bluebird]

I do not mind play Vanilla, but I prefer the CB mod. With CB, I feel that I have a better choice of Pretenders. Vanilla has too unbalanced pretenders and you always end up using the same ones. But as I said, I do not really mind.

[PashaDawg]

We could choose to play with just the Conceptual Balance Scales and Pretender mods.

Might also need to play with Endo's quick fix mod for Pythium and Tien Chi.
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=556062&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

[archaeolept]

i would like to tentatively reserve a slot http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Well... I'm not interested in perfection, but as from my first venture with Atlantis I need to ensure I can seize even just my surrounding provinces. I'll join in, though I'll be have less reservations about going AI than usual.

In alphabetical order:
Atlantis, Agartha, Caelum, Jomon, Patala, Pangaea, T'ien Ch'i

In order of preference, I'll probably put Atlantis last. I don't like to play the same race in two simultaneous games. Still, it's one I'm familiar with, and with a different starting position, who knows... All the rest are more or less the same to me. Though I prefer having more national summons and a death focus.

I suppose I'll sort them for you anyways, with several other criteria, being undead, strat move, simplicity of concept, vague feeling. It doesn't make a big diff, but if you don't have a die to cast..

Patala, T'ien C'hi, Agartha, Jomon, Pangaea, Caelum, Atlantis

Actually, because of all these monkey debates, I really want Patala.

EDIT:
Patala > Agartha > T'ien C'hi > Pangaea > Jomon > Caelum > Atlantis

[Aezeal]

let me know which race ASAP plz so I can focus on thinking about pretenders.. I usually make double bless pretenders but for these races I might need some research and maybe a completely different strat.. I noticed blessings ain't all.. and good scales work all age..

(he knows my race choice already)

[PashaDawg]

I am hoping to have 17 players. So, I am going to wait a little before assigning nations. Hopefully, we will have a full roster by Sunday night. Then I can assign nations, and I will give players a few days to craft their pretenders.

[Aezeal]

so it's gonna be vanilla then? and what map?

[PashaDawg]

Hi Aezeal: You can find the map link in the first post of this thread.

One player requested the Conceptual Balance mod early on. I am happy to play vanilla, too, although we might want to use the quickfix that was set up to deal with the broken things in late Pythium and Tien Chi. See here: http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=556062&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

We will probably use the Worthy Heroes mod, too.

We will finalize all such details in the next day or so once we have 17 players.

[archaeolept]

what about the CB pretender mod? it's stand-alone, and does give a wider latitude of good pretender choices.

[DonCorazon]

I am one of the Stardock Offer Noobs (a "SON") so please indulge my ignorance....

For the mods, we just just download them and save in the Mod folder? Any FAQs somewhere on using mods? Thanks.

[PashaDawg]

I will make a decision about the Mods by tonight or tomorrow (Sunday). By then, we should have our list of players, hopefully, too.

I will also make it easy for all players by emailing out the mods so everyone will have what they need.

[archaeolept]

yah to play in a game, just d/l and put in the mods folder. to design a pretender or play a game you start yourself, go to preferences>mods and enable the ones you want. Currently, enabling all the Conceptual Balance mods w/ 3.10 will error out.

[Aezeal]

could someone attach all files needed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif please'?

[PashaDawg]

Aezeal:

I will email you the mods. I can't seem to post them to the forum right now.

Just need 2 more players! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Pasha

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Could you assign the nations to us for now? And tell us what slots are open?

[Stelteck]

Can i get in ?

My preference :

1- Chtis
2- agartha
3- Palata
4- Ulm
5- Atlantis

[PashaDawg]

Welcome Stelteck.

[PashaDawg]

I am just waiting on one player to send me his player preferences, and then I will go ahead and work out the nation assignments. I have made a spreadsheet of all of the preferences.

If we don't have a final player tonight, then I suggest that we just play with 16 players so we can get the game started this week.

[Aristander]

I will join if you still have a slot open.

Utgard, Caelum, Jomon, Arcosephale, Patala

[PashaDawg]

Yay! We have 17 players.

[PashaDawg]

I am just waiting for 2 players to send me their nation choices (originally, I thought it was just one). Then I will be able to announce the nation assignments.

I expect that we will start the game next weekend so players will have a bit of time to prepare their pretenders and test things.

Pasha

[Aethyr]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[PashaDawg]

Wraithlord sent me the following comment yesterday in connection with the RAND game, and I thought it would be best to offer this up to you all, in case players decide to play Vanilla instead (the RAND game would use the same mods as this game):


"I ran a short test game with the said mods and of a few battles one
actually gave different battle results than seen in battle replay. I'm
not really sure what to make of it."


Wraithlord was not sure if the same problem would result in 3.10 Vanilla. Does anybody else have thoughts or similar experiences?

I'll shoot to make a decision by tonight re whether to stay with the current mod set.

Pasha

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

If vanilla, you need one of the hotfixes mods.

[archaeolept]

what mods is wraithlord referring to? I can't run the old CB mod w/ 3.10 w/out it erroring out (nagot glick fell). The differing battle reports is an old issue, and there seem to be a number of things that could cause it. Personally, it doesn't bother me - an inspection of the troops will show you what is left, and the battle it does show is an equally valid and informative possibility http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[PashaDawg]

We'd be using the following mods, according to my current plan:

CB Scales Mod
CB Pretender Mod
Worthy Heroes Mod 1.8
and
Endoperez's Quickfix mod for Dom 3.10 (It fixes Late Pythium's sacred-hydra issue and an issue with Tien Chi.)

The complete CB mod needed to be fixed. IIRC, this was because of spelling chanages in Dom 3.10. I have a fixed version of the the full CB mod, but I don't think the errors were an issue in the Scales and Pretender mods. Correct me if I am wrong. (I'll try to do some tests when I get home.)

[PashaDawg]

I am now thinking that we can stick with the current mod set without great risk. Please see the dicussion in the RAND thread.

Let me know if you have any strong concerns.

[archaeolept]

i'm happy with that mod selection.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

I'm a fan of the banners and streamers mod that changes the national flags.

[Bluebird]

Looking forward to you well-packaged zip file of all the mods so I do not have to search for them myself. I am so lazy ...

[Aethyr]

I'm a fan of the banners and streamers mod as well.

I'm really not familiar with the CB mods (i don't have a concern), were can I go for an overview of the changes? Thanks

[PashaDawg]

I'd be happy to give the banners mod a whirl. I have never used it, and it would be fun. I hope they'll look sassy on my map. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Bluebird's suggestion is a good one. I will email everyone a zip of the needed mods tonight. I will include the read-me files that I have about the CB-mods. I am not sure how updated the read-me's are (I am wreckless and have never read them), but they will provide some information about the changes.

[Aezeal]

Am I missing something or do I still have no nation? I would like to know what I will play so I can play a few turns with that nation and design a pretender etc.

Plz let me know.

[PashaDawg]

Hi Aezeal:

You are missing nothing. I have not been able to give out nation assignments because I am waiting for a player or 2 to give me their top 5 choices for nations to play (I am not sure that I will use that system again). Hopefully, when I get home, I will have the information I need.

Pasha

[Meglobob]

How about anyone not getting there top 5 in by a certain date get a random nation pick in future?

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

Please include "Epotara" in every email you send me about this game. That way, my email filter will sort the email properly.

Here are the nation assignments for the upcoming Epotara game:

1. Abysia - Sir Dr D
2. Agartha - Lazy Perfectionist
3. Arco - Aristander
4. Atlantis - Pashadawg
5. Caelum - Morkilus
6. C'Tis - Stelteck
7. Jomon - DonCorazon
8. Man - Ramshead
9. Marignon - Aethyr
10. Midgard - Aezeal
11. Mictlan - Dragonfire11
12. Pan - Archaeolept
13. Patala - Cainehill
14. Pythium - Ironhawk
15. Tien Chi - Meglobob
16. Ulm - djo
17. Utgard - Bluebird

I will send the mods and other instructions in a separate email.

Let's shoot to get this game started by Friday, November 16, 2007.

Thanks.

Pasha

[Bluebird]

Ouch - Utgard. And I always have problems managing the food supplies anyway :-)

[PashaDawg]

Obviously, players are free to trade nations if they choose. Just do it in time to start on Friday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Bluebird]

Nope, I love the challenge. And there is nothing that GROWTH 3 cannot fix.

[DragonFire11]

Hi everyone. I'm brushing the dust off my game and my brain.

[PashaDawg]

Welcome, Dragonfire11. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Archaeolept needed to drop out of the game. So, we now have an opening for someone to play Pan.

If we don't get a new player by tomorrow (Friday), then i would suggest that we just leave that slot open with no player (and no AI playing Pan).

Pasha

[Wokeye]

EDIT: Change of plans - I'm still in!

[archaeolept]

yay! thanks Wokeye - this game looks like it'll be great fun, but my brain will explode if i add another one to my plate http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

edit: oh well... or if you want, i'd be happy to sub your turns while you're down, if you would like.

otherwise: Pan still available for the taking! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[PashaDawg]

Oops. Almost. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Wokeye]

EDIT: Made some changes to my computer upgrade plans, I'll be available. Where do I sign? lol

I will need to grab those mods and the map.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Important question:
Password protect our pretenders?
With PBEM, no-one can grab our turns, except Pashadawg, so I suggest no password protection. Or, if people have already sent-in password protected pretenders, I recommend you set a masterpassword and write it down, Pashadawg.

I've been unable to contact one particular staller... its quite annoying.

[PashaDawg]

Welcome Wokeye. I sent you a private message with my email. I can send you the mods and other important information.

Because Wokeye is Down Under, we might wait until Saturday to start the game. There are fewer hours in the day when we are both awake, which can delay tasks and communication. However, it would be great, Wokeye, if we were able to start tonight (Friday, Boston time).

Regarding passwords, I always set a master password just in case. Players are not required to use passwords. However, I actually prefer them, because sometimes I accidentally click another player's turn when trying to open my own. I hate that, because if there is no password, then I have to cast my eyes away and try to close the turn without saving but without really seeing the turn. Then I suffer through a 6.844 second period feeling embarrassed and dirty. So, passwords are encouraged but not required. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

I have not received pretender files from:

Caelum / Morkilus
Man / Ramshead
Pan / Wokeye
Patala / Cainehill
Pythium / Ironhawk

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Ok. Wokeye was spritely today and has already submitted his pretender. So, we are back on track to starting tonight as long as all other players get their pretenders in to me.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

LOL my friday night was like 12 hours ago. Slowpokes.

[Aezeal]

I want the first turn!!!!

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Wokeye, have you by any chance played the Fallout series of PC RPGs?

[PashaDawg]

One player needs a bit more time to get his pretender in. So, I expect that we'll start the game first thing Saturday morning (Boston time), while I sip my coffee. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Aristander]

Coffee that would be nectar of the Gods. Or perhaps nectar of the Pretenders.

[Wokeye]

LP, yep big fan of fallout. Can't wati until #3 comes out, hoping Bethesda don't stuff it by making it too serious/'g rated'/stupid console port/game decisions like Oblivion (eg scaling monster difficulty, main quest that can be completed straight up etc).

[PashaDawg]

Ugh! I just noticed that there is another player who has not submitted his pretender. I have contacted him, and hopefully, we'll be able to get the game going today.

Sorry for the delay.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 1 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night, Boston time.

Pasha

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Here's to Pipboys- and lets hope that Bethesda doesn't continue the tradition of your teammates shooting you in the back if you give them an Uzi. I'd hate for them to stuff it up by removing the constant fear of 'teamkill' that was core to F1 and F2.

Nothing interesting yet, don't even know the neighboring indies. Starting my strategy, such as it is.

[Bluebird]

here goes nothing - have fun everybody, "I am looking forward to killing you soon."

[Sir_Dr_D]

I must say I really like this map, the best map for this game that I have seen yet. The locations of the nations eem to be there for roleplaying more then balance but thats okay.

THanks for the map Pasha, and thanks for hosting.

[Wokeye]

Yes, thanks to Pasha for hosting.

[Meglobob]

I have got a little bored of endlessly fighting Ermor or R'lyeh in LA so this senario makes a very pleasent change.

Some very nice LA nations that will now get a chance to shine in there own right.

Good one Pasha!

[PashaDawg]

Thank you.

It was Jurri's idea to exclude Ermor and R'lyeh.

[Aethyr]

Meglobob said:
I have got a little bored of endlessly fighting Ermor or R'lyeh in LA so this senario makes a very pleasent change.

Some very nice LA nations that will now get a chance to shine in there own right.

Good one Pasha!



Pasha, I've been meaning to thank you for this as well.

[PashaDawg]

Thank you all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Turn 2 is out. Deadline is Sunday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Wokeye needs a short extension due to the major time zone difference. There will be a slight delay. This should not be a big problem once we go to the 3-turn/week schedule.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 3 is out. I must have had Wokeye's turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Deadline is Monday night at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

[DragonFire11]

I just want to let you all know that you can concede now if you wish. I'm considerate if nothing else.

[PashaDawg]

har har

[Wokeye]

Pangaea thanks you for your consideration, Dragonfire11, but we decline your kind offer.

[Aezeal]

The great nation of Midgard can proudly present it's first conquest.

All Hail Aezeal, god of Midgard.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 4 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night, Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

Turn 5 is out.

I need to travel on Wednesday night for the Thanksgiving holiday in the USA. So, I won't be able to host the turn on Wednesday. Let's shoot to host by Friday night, if not sooner on Thursday evening.

Pasha

[Bluebird]

Thanksgiving - that is the strange thing with the turkey, right?

[Wokeye]

Better than halloween, that we here in Australia seem to have inherited via TV lol

[PashaDawg]

Yes. Thanksgiving is the holiday where we all have a feast (usually Turkey). It also commemorates the first "Thanksgiving" in the Plymouth Colony by the English Puritan Pilgrims and local Native Americans in 1620 or so, if I recall correctly. It's probably my favorite holiday. No gifts. No bother. Just good food with friends and family, plus a 4-day weekend. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

It's commonly called "Turkey Day" since Turkey is such a commont theme. It's also the day President Bush pardons a couple of turkeys- and no, we're not talking about Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

http://xs221.xs.to/xs221/07473/bush-turkey.jpg (http://xs.to)

[Bluebird]

Ok - I get it. It is the least commercial day of the year for family and friends.

And George pardons a number of Turkeys and refuses to pardon a number of death sentences.

[archaeolept]

the least commercial day of the year for family and friends.

lol no...it's the official start of the holiday shopping season, and a time of huge thanksgiving sales.

And I'm not sure if George getting a hummer from a turkey is traditional :-)

[Wokeye]

As Lord of Pangaea I must protest the mass harvesting of fowl by humans for such a fickle purpose. Turkeys will have their freedom under my dominion.

[Sir_Dr_D]

Yeah right. You are going to turn them into undead manikins, where they will be forced into an eternatity of servitude.

You want to give the turkeys to Abysia. We are in the middle of the wasteland, and some roast turkey would be nice. With us the turkeys won't feel a thing, unlike turing them into mankins. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Stelteck]

Who is the turkey in the picture ? I have problem to identify it. I leave in town, you know ^^
Perhaps there is more than one ?

Stelteck.

[Aezeal]

have I missed a turn or are we still waiting with your thanksgiving thingie?

[PashaDawg]

I plan to host the turn tonight.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 6 is out.

Deadline is Saturday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Hi Ho:

Turn 7 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 8 went out last night.

Deadline is tonight (Monday).

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Dragonfire11 requested an extension until morning. I will host the turn when I wake up on Tuesday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 9 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night.

Thanks.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Apologies for the delay this turn - I was busy travelling to watch Beckham's club get whopped by one of our local national league teams. Go Sydney FC!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Aezeal]

thanks for waiting on me pplz

[Ironhawk]

No problem. Still waiting on that 500gp bribe you promised to send tho! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Aezeal]

lol which nation are you :d maybe I could be of diplomatic help to you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 10 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Ironhawk]

Hey I have a dinner w/ my team at work tonight and won't be able to get home in time for this turn's deadline. Would anyone have a problem with me delaying the turn a little bit? Probably will get home by 9-10pm PT tonight.

[Wokeye]

No worries here.

[DonCorazon]

No problem - bon apetit!

[PashaDawg]

I will wait to host the turn when I wake up on Friday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ironhawk]

Thanks for the extension guys. My turn is in now!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 11 is out.

Because the turn was hosted late, I will extend the deadline to Saturday night.

[Aezeal]

Of course if everyone sends in it'll be done sooner?

[Aezeal]

The rulers of Midgard wonder why the giants of Utgard insisted on invading the province we explicitly messaged them we would be moving to this turn. We have not recieved a message of their intentions and untill further notice this can only be interpreted as an act of war.

The giants lost the first battle of this war (obviously) since our skinshifters easily out fight the large brutes. They will suffer more losses to pay for this insolence.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 12 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[Aezeal]

The Rulers of Midgard, under the al-seeing eye of Aezeal, the old old one, princess of plants and trees, lady of precious green, queen of mists. (there seems to be a gender problem there, please adress me as you would a male pretender.) are offended by the lack of apology or even reponse from the side of Utgard in this starting conflict. Therefore we claim to be the maligned party in this and our actions should be considered punishment.

We also wish to state to our direct and not so direct neighbours that this ... restlessness on one of our fronts doesn't have any effect on our diplomatic agreements already made.

Those nations whom we have not had contact with yet are welcome to open a diplomatic conversation by means of this forum and for private ... negotiations, the forum messaging system seems more adequate than the in-game messaging system. For even faster replies the e-mail, used by our host, whom I salute, can be used. My adres is the one starting with LARS...

I welcome all messages from the inhabitants of our world be they chit-chat or serious diplomatic talks.

Greetings of Aezeal, ruler of Midgard, home of skinshifters.

[Aezeal]

a request:

I once saw a pic with all homenations mentioned on that map. I can't find that anymore but if someone could repost that I'd be gratefull it would help in finding the correct persons to talk about certain things.

Thanks in advance,
Aezeal of Midgard

PS a second request: role play a bit with me.. I find myself only talking to me in here.. while I generally don't mind to hear myself talking some reactions would be nice.. IMHO it make the game more fun too.

[Wokeye]

Pangaea is busy assembling a Thanksgiving Turkey Army of Doom for "delivery" to Abysia, as requested... BRB

[PashaDawg]

Turn 13 is out.

Deadline is Monday night.

Pasha

[Bluebird]

Lies lies lies, Mitgard is a country throwing all his were-creates at the peaceful giants of the north. Mitgard choose an accidental clash of forces as a legal excuse for attacking us. It is all just a cheap move.

His back provinces are defenseless, and we will bind his troops for longer. Support us and you will be rewarded by easy-gained territory.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Agartha is a poor nation barely managing to make it out of the caves. We curse the random fates, we do. We thank ourselves that our god-pretender rose as soon as the old Pankorator left.

[Aezeal]

I fear that there is no backcountry though.. all other province are near my capitol.. which is steadily producing more skinshifters.. I doubt anyone would find it wise to attack there.. certainly when about 3/4 of my army can SAIL!! back there in 2 turns..

apart from the fact that i have REALLY good contacts with all my neighbours.. well all minus the brutes to the north that is http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Bluebird]

Ok, Aezael - you go me - pants down ... well, I will keep on swimming as long as I can ... have fun with the game everybody. And beware of Mitgards shape-shifters.

[Ironhawk]

Yeah midgard has a strong lead in provinces now. If bluebird is about to die he'll have a VP too. Hmmm!

[Aezeal]

Well 2 Vp don't make a game.. I have a rush strat since in my first (that is the game before this) I got rushed and didn't want it to happen again.

Someone has got to have the most province anyway .. and it's not like I have that much more than the next person.. not to mention I didn't even grow last turn.

And in armies I'm not even on top.. who knows what the rest has running around?

Let's just see how the game goes before we draw any conclusions.. I'm seeing another nation (patala) getting near 0 province too so I guess that someone else almost has 2 VP too.

[Aezeal]

Hey is it me or haven't we gotten turn 15.. if the rest has it plz don't host before I can send it in.

[Wokeye]

I haven't received 15 either, I assume turn 14 is still to be run.

[Ironhawk]

No 15 here either. I think Pasha might have forgot? Its almost 8pm ET and he usually generates around 6, iirc

[PashaDawg]

I was in a huge rush this morning to get to work on time (I have been self employed for about 15 years, and suddenly, I have to worry about my new boss's schedule preferences http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif ). Due to my new job, I think it is near impossible for me to host in the morning when players are late. In any case, in my rush this morning, I noticed that some turn emails had an error, but I did not have the time to check them out. But, I will do that now and send out the emails. The turns will be due tomorrow (Thursday) at 9:00 pm. Sorry about any confusion.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Ok. Turn 15 should be out for all players.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Aezeal]

Hmmm does abyssia want to talk about something with me now we've met? Just PM me if that is the case plz.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 16 is out.

Deadline is SUNDAY. (We are now on the 3-turn / week schedule.

Pasha

[DragonFire11]

Say 'hi' to the Man PashaDawg.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Internet died out. Probably need an extension to Saturday. Past that, and you can go on w/o me.

[Ironhawk]

Just submitted my turn 16, but I wanted to let you all know that I'll be travelling to the east coast tomorrow. I'll be offline all saturday and possibly sunday while I figure out my internet connection. So if a turn is generated early please wait for me.

[Aezeal]

ehm I'm fine with going for sunday.. but really the turns are still very short to generate.. can't we stay on 1/day through out the week and then pass saturday and only do one on sunday.. I figure the next 2 weeks will still have relatively short turns?

just a suggestion to speed the game up.. and when asked for extensions are already given often so it hardly is that much of a problem

[djo]

I would prefer we stay at the previously advertised pace.

[Meglobob]

djo said:
I would prefer we stay at the previously advertised pace.



So would I or I would not have joined the game.

[Aezeal]

HMM I'll wait till sunday before I send 16 back then.. maybe some pplz want to talk a bit more http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[PashaDawg]

I am also happy to switch to the more relaxed pace. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

We need time to talk about how Midgard is eating up the map at an alarming rate! Eeek! Eeek! Danger! Danger! Nee-ner! Nee-ner!

[Aezeal]

Hmmm well it seems patala has suffered worse than utgard so far and that is not of my account.. sources tell me Pan and Ulm are the source of their extermination.

IMHO abyssia's exponential research is also more of a worry for mid and end game.

[djo]

Based on our observations, Ulm believes that Patala tried to dance with Turmoil Three, and the lady had her vicious way with him. The capital is naught but a town, and we saw evidence of recent foreign occupation when we arrived. We admit to being opportunistic, but the credit goes mostly to fate.

However, the monkeys make $%&@ strong fortresses. Our troops are spending too much time encamped around their walls. We are not amused.

[Aezeal]

Hmm my next turn might spell the end of a certain giant fortress... depending on how strong their pretender actually is, but I have a fair force camped outside their fortress so I'm pretty confident.. and shapeshifters never die in one turn so that is nice against mages.. the giants themselves must be in huge numbers to stop my army and I don't think they have enough..

we'll see. there remains a sort of army retaking certain provinces.. but that is only a question of cornering them.. if they have badluck with avoiding my chasing armies they'll be gone.

Then I can hunt the remaining indies in my region.

is anybody willing to share whom they are warring with? (I have my sources of course but still for the sake of diplomacy I'm asking anyway)

[Meglobob]

The lands of T'ien C'hi are at peace.

Indeed the lands in my part of the world are so peaceful my barbarians are growing there hair long and talking of free love.

[Aezeal]

declare war on someons I'd say.. I've notices that taking undefended provinces from another player gives EVEN LESS losses than conquering indies ..

[Meglobob]

Aezeal said:
declare war on someons I'd say.. I've notices that taking undefended provinces from another player gives EVEN LESS losses than conquering indies ..



Errm...you just haven't met the right player yet... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Aezeal]

at start most armies are expanding not defending that is right in nearly all cases.. sure.. at a time they'll turn those armies around and then you just have to hope you are stronger http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 17 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[Aezeal]

A proclamation from Midgard

The Utgardian giants have lost their capitol and are now wandering around the world. If you have any mercy you will put them out of their misery on sight and not let them hurt themselves or others needlessly.

Greetings
Aezeal of Midgard

PS my nation is currently not having war.. is someone needs assistance somewhere .. ask and I'll see what I can do, in the meanwhile I'll convert some indies to my religion.

[Aezeal]

Noone wants my involvement in a war.. then I'll have to find my fun myself I guess...

[PashaDawg]

Turn 18 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 19 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night 9:00 Boston time.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

What's the plan for the game over Christmas?

Personally, I'll be away Dec 25-27 then again Jan 2-8. Gotta get to the beach, its too freakin' hot here otherwise. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[DonCorazon]

I'm headed to the Dominican Republic w/o Dominions access Dec 21-29...

[DragonFire11]

Had fun guys. Next time I wish to be a thicker doormat! o/

[Ironhawk]

Heheh - good playing with you dragonfire!

As for xmas, I will be around and able to play but I have no problems with pausing for that time.

[Aezeal]

Hey can someone, either mictlan or his destroyer.. give an account of what happened in that corner of the world.. news like this should travel around the world ..

[PashaDawg]

We can certainly put the game on hold if necessary, but it would be great if players who are going to be away for more than a few days could find a substitute (e.g., DonCorazon in Dec. & Wokeye in Jan.). Obviously, we will not play a turn on Tuesday, Dec. 25.

I find the best way to get a sub is not to advertise in a post on the forum. Instead, it is better to contact one of your fellow gamers directly, assuming you have interacted with them previously in a friendly way. If you need help, let me know.

Games die if they are put on hold for more than a few days.

Pasha

[Ironhawk]

I dont for sure the details of the Mictlan conflict but from observations and hearsay I believe that Man and Mictlan were at war (not sure who started it) and then Arco joined in opportunistically. Arco took the northern portions of Mict territory while Man took the southern parts including the capital. Beseiged in his cap and almost out of dominion, Mict was forced to break seige or be dom-killed. His breakout attempted failed tho, as must be clear by the end of his nation.

[DragonFire11]

That's a fair summary by Ironhawk. I lost a battle to Arco. Then I had to try and regroup at my cap. Before I could regroup, Man started a siege and vitiated my dominion. I tried to break free but the fire arrows sliced me up.

[Aezeal]

Why does man not have 2 VP then? Who has the capitol atm?
Man has fire arrows already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif sweet

[Wokeye]

I will try to find a sub for me during Jan 2-8.

[DragonFire11]

Indies would have the cap I assume.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 20 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[Aezeal]

Hey I noticed something: 5 VP is enough to win??
shouldn't that be a lot more?? like.. 8 or something?

[PashaDawg]

You gotta knock out 4 other player capitals to win. Depending on the players, that can be quite a task.

[Ironhawk]

Yeah thats more than enough. Not only is it hard to defeat that many players but once someone gets say, thier third (total) VP, everyone will begin turning on them.

[Aezeal]

yeah I guess taking other capitols will be harder than it was taking utgards capitol http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Bluebird]

Yea - just repeat that you crushed me in no time.

[Aezeal]

hmmm well you can't help it your giants are much more expensive than my skinshifters.. I'll be the first to admit they are way overpowered... 30 HP and multile relatively high strength attacks for only 20/7... it's insane

[PashaDawg]

Turn 21 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

LP has been out of contact for over 3 days and will stale a second time in a row if I host the turn tonight. Before I host, I will send him a PM to double check in with him. It seems odd that he would disappear.

Pasha

[Ironhawk]

Unexpected holiday travel problems, maybe?

[Aethyr]

He mentioned that his internet died about a few days ago...I don't know that I've heard from him since then.

[PashaDawg]

I suggest that we wait a few more days for him to show up. We've hit the holiday season and several players are traveling anyway. I hate for players to lose out because of technical problems. (We'll get going again soon, even if he does not show up.)

Plus, I need a few days to plot and plan Midgard / Aezeal's demise in our forthcoming war! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Pasha

[Ironhawk]

Yeah he is in the middle of getting wrecked by Caelum at the moment, too. You'd think he could have gotten a message to us somehow tho that he was offline. Like at a coffeeshop or a library or something.

[Aezeal]

Hey let's just host tonight at least.. if you are gone for 2 turns then either you spend a few bucks to get on the forum and let us know you want a delay or you just miss the turn I'd say..

plz host and see if he's there next turn

[Aezeal]

PS pasha.. I really wonder how you got the idea to attack me.. my skinshifters must be about the best troops in the world and I have a lot of them.. why don't you fear me???? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Not to mention you have all those loose pieces of country conviniently next to my lands (and troops)

[PashaDawg]

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Aezeal:

Bah! I like you foolish and overly confident. Your silly skinshifters will melt away like snowflakes in the summer sun. The might of Atlantis will tear your dominion asunder. Already we are beating the drums of war. Hear them! They beat the rhythm of your doom!

Pasha

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[Aezeal]

you just host the turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[djo]

I think we should wait for LP as long as possible. Only seems fair, even if I am one of the neighbors looking to make Agartha's life miserable.

[Aezeal]

no offence but it's possible to wait a few decades... I want to kill atlantis before the year ends so lets get it on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Morkilus]

I need Agartha to witness the ferocity of Caelum's... ferocity, or something.

[DonCorazon]

Well as for Jomon, we are in the Dominican Republic until Dec 29 but cannot get turns downloaded onto laptop (yet). Hoping to find an internet cafe. Writing this message from an ancient desktop computer. Sorry for any delays.

[PashaDawg]

I am hosting Xmas for my family this year, and it will take more time than I expected to be a good host. So, turn hosting might be a bit spotty this week. Thanks for your patience.

Pasha

[Aezeal]

Just host this turn tonight then.. and then I have something to do while it's christman and then next host between X-man and newyear.. or 2 if possible http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Ironhawk]

No worries Pasha. I'm not really expecting any turns during the xmas -> news years period.

[Aezeal]

you are all to nice for the bum

[Morkilus]

Also: My computer blowed up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I might be ready by the time I get a turn (either with a new one or with my... ugh... old one.

[Cainehill]

Pasha, please turn me AI. I'm kinda sick of doing my turns on time every time, getting to check my email every day, and not ever hearing that the game is on bloody hiatus.

I appreciate your hosting, and you've always been better at it than almost anyone - but having to get web access to check on a PBEM is screwed up.

Happy horrordays everyone.

[Wokeye]

Cainehill, surely disruption due to Christmas is just standard fare for PBEM games? What's the rush? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Aezeal]

Well I must say this wait is getting a bit too long for me too. Waiting an extra day for someone ok.. but extending it to 5 days KNOWING it will last another x days because of holidays isn't good. Not doing a turn between x-mas and newyear is not good either.. but I guess we are minority... and I dont'have a problem getting net access so I'll just check daily http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Ironhawk]

Why not find a replacement instead of going AI, caine? Plenty of time to find one with the holidays on

[djo]

I've been sieging his capital for about thirty turns now, so it hasn't been interesting for him for a long time (I'm guessing). I doubt his going AI now will change things much.

[Ironhawk]

Ah, gotcha. Didnt know he was under the gun.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 22 is out. Sorry for the delay. We will be back on track after New Years Day.

I have still not received contact from LP, and I suggest that we turn him AI if we don't hear back from him by the next hosting.

Pasha

[Morkilus]

I got my other compy up and running, so I'm good to go.

[Ironhawk]

So when is the turn due, Pasha? I'm unsure since we've been off schedule for a while.

As for LP - Shouldnt we advertise for a replacement before setting him AI? I hate it when functional nations are placed AI in a game it makes for unnatural power vacuums.

[Morkilus]

I'm not able to do my turn until I find a working link for CBM. Stupid motherboard.

[PashaDawg]

The turn will be due on New Year's Day.

Ironhawk's point is a good one. If someone would like to take over for Agartha, that would be great (assuming LP does not show up).

Pasha

[vfb]

There's a link to CBM uploaded by Sombre as an attachment that works here:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=d3smm&Number=545565#Post54 5565

[Cerlin]

I cant say im the best LA Agartha player ever, but I would give it a shot if you need a replacement fast. I can fire up a couple Single player and figure it out. Agartha is generally my favorite nation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Let me know.

[Wokeye]

I'll be able to do a turn around NY day, then I'll organise my sub to take the one after, for my return on the 8th.

[PashaDawg]

Hi Cerlin:

I will send you a PM with info.

Pasha

[Cerlin]

umm Can I get an update on my political situation?
Apparently Im at war with Caelum and Ulm? O.o Im not sure actually... lol
Any info would be appreciated!

[djo]

I have PM'd you with the Ulm-Agartha situation.

[Cerlin]

I would like to thank you all for your responses (those who sent them.) It has definitely helped me have a glimmer of understanding when it comes to the political situation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
I will respond to the messages I received in kind and I'll not forget those who were kind to me in the beginning.

[Stelteck]

Greetings lords of epotara.

Stelteck the snake, prince of the nation of chtiss is willing to engage in gem trade. We have spare gem or spare gold and are willing to exchange them against death gem.

Contact me !!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 23 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Ironhawk]

Hey guys - my work is crazy today. I'm not going to get out till late. Is there any chance I could get the turn postponed until midnight tonight?

[PashaDawg]

Turn 24 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

Pasha

[Aezeal]

We've caught a liar peoples

Hello Aezeal:

I received notice that a Midgard diplomat was caught screwing the
daughter of an Atlantian aristocrat.

I have no choice but to give you immediate notice of the termination
of our NAP. The three turns start now (Turn 21).

So, the attacking can commence on turn 24.

Pasha


P.S. I imagine that it will be fun to have a war against you, even if
I lose. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif


and ... I could have taken half his lands last turns yet he attacks me a turn early.. think about it when dealing with atlantis.... they are ruled by liars.

[Cerlin]

Haha thanks for the update! This game is definitely heating up. :O For me too..Caelum is a bastard...(although It may have been our previous ruler who started the war.)
Fighting a war you didnt start is always fun! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[PashaDawg]

Bah! It was an innocent misunderstanding. The attack occurred on turn 24, but the orders were made on turn 23. I apologized to Aezeal and even offered reparations.

Pasha

[Aethyr]

PashaDawg said:
Bah! It was an innocent misunderstanding. The attack occurred on turn 24, but the orders were made on turn 23. I apologized to Aezeal and even offered reparations.

Pasha



Turn 21
Turn 22
Turn 23
Turn 24 - Attack Occurred

Looks like three to me; am I missing something?

[Ironhawk]

I agree with Aethyr, that timing looks fine to me - I dont believe Pasha was in the wrong. Both players had three full turns to issue orders to thier men before combat started. When someone tells me that a NAP is terminated, I assume that the current turn counts towards the warning period.

[Ironhawk]

PYTHIUM TRAVEL ADVISORY:

I will be traveling this Sunday and Monday. I just sent my turn in for the sunday turn so I should be fine. Wanted to let you all know tho...

[Aezeal]

ok.. a misunderstanding... let's just peace and have a few 10 turn NAP and it'll all be forgiven...

PS I only posted the above AFTER i didn't see a reply on my mail to you

[DonCorazon]

Jomon has recently encountered an influx of scouts, assassins and other miscreants spying on our humble country. The discovery of any such unauthorized vagabonds from unallied nations may be considered an act of war as we Jomonese are very private people. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[djo]

Just a lost tourist...nothing to be alarmed about. You may send those large standing armies home. No need for them to be camping out along our borders. Send them home to play with the geishas.

[Wokeye]

I am no longer a lost tourist and am back to re-join the fun!

[Aezeal]

Man has troops concentrated on their western border since they desperatly want to loose that new capitol they have taken over... anyone interested in a VP is very welcome to take it from MAN

[PashaDawg]

Turn 25 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[Aezeal]

So now it should be clear Atlantis really are traitors.. no amends whatsoever have been made...

But I'm generous.. I'll forgive Atlantis for a NAP and a combined action agaist man http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif MUCH easier picking for atlantis anyway

[RamsHead]

Aezeal said:
Man has troops concentrated on their western border since they desperatly want to loose that new capitol they have taken over... anyone interested in a VP is very welcome to take it from MAN



Anyone who tries to take the former Mictlan capital will find it guarded by a bunch of defenders. I think you will find it to be quite difficult to break down the gates before my large eastern army arrives.

[DonCorazon]

More lost tourists. Tsk...tsk...

[Aezeal]

hmmm I pretty sure that large eastern army will meet my large western army. If you don't want armies to clash I would accept a NAP (taking on Atlantis might be good for you.)

[Ironhawk]

Pythium Want Ads:

/threads/images/Graemlins/Hammer.gif Mages of Pythium seek fancy Dwarven Hammers!

Any nation capable and interested in trading them, please send a PM or email. Can trade in gems, gold, and maybe a few virgins for the right client!

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

Turn 26 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

Pasha

[djo]

We are flattered by the recent wave of immigration to Ulm. Clearly our neighbors are discovering what we have known all along, the beauty of the Ulmish mountains, the peaceful green of Ulm's meadows (especially now, in spring, when the wildflowers are blooming), and the charm and kind-heartedness of the Ulmish maidens. However we must insist that you leave your weapons at the border! This is for your own protection. The young men of Ulm are prone (we are sad to say) to heavy drinking on the weekends. Normally the damage is no worse than a few black eyes and broken barstools, but if well-meaning but ignorant immigrants bring weapons into the equation, we fear for the worst (for you, not us--Ulmish youths are likely to get the wrong impression if you show up at a bar fully armed and eyeing aforementioned Ulmish maidens, and they are likely to go home and come back with their cousins and their own weapons, and that would go badly for all).

So, in summary:

-- visitors welcome
-- no weapons
-- and please tip your server 15% on the way out


the Greater Ulm Chamber of Commerce

[DonCorazon]

It is time to institute some discipline in Ulm. We in Jomon are frankly a bit tired of enduring the drunken escapades of Ulmish frat boys straying across the border on their weekend adventures, deflowering our geishas, breaking Asahi bottles over Jomonese heads, and peeing behind the sushi joints!

[Aezeal]

I think you should all set priorities straight and take on man.. they are AT THIS moment conquering their thrid VP.. I know I had a bit of a headstart but I'm not going anywhere with man and atlantis on me.. Atlantis is not that much of a thread but if anyone takes them on I could use more resources to keep man in check.... I'd say that for other players it's better that me and man keep eachother busy for a long while... at this rate though man will have it's 3th (and maybe 4th VP rather quickly... and considering that abyssia is not THAT well defended either and he's about 3 turns away from that caitol afer taking the former utgardian one... well 5 VP can be easily reached in about the time you'd need to react after I've een defeated.. I uss most you dont'kn the situation around utgards former capitol.. but I'll tell you.. you should worry in a gamewhere 5VP mean awin.

So I would ask of you who neighbour atlantis but mostly man... divert some attention of your armies that way.... ifyou have NAP.. cancel it NOW so you can act before ít's too late. Give man MORE pressure!!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 27 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

[djo]

DonCorazon said:
It is time to institute some discipline in Ulm. We in Jomon are frankly a bit tired of enduring the drunken escapades of Ulmish frat boys straying across the border on their weekend adventures, deflowering our geishas, breaking Asahi bottles over Jomonese heads, and peeing behind the sushi joints!



Oh, pshaw. Everyone knows the red-blooded men of Ulm don't eat sushi, only beef (served rare).

[DonCorazon]

They'll be eating Kobe beef soon! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Aezeal]

Hey Jomon... come eat the atlantians then... those fisheads make perfect sushi.. and you'd help a good cause too. The atlantian/man war machine is a threat to all living things.

[DonCorazon]

Yummy but Jomon is nowhere near Atlantis - we are landlocked. Ask Ctis or Marignon - they might need some fish oil in their diet.

[PashaDawg]

Lies lies lies!

[Aezeal]

Atlantis is allied with man to become a superpower.. oppose them NOW or we will all have to become slaves of man (including atlantis who is obviously getting the worst end of the deal since most of my troop can only fight him while man can take the VP's, but the fishheads don't seem to realize this)

[DonCorazon]

Well if we ever see any Atlanteans (other than the scout we just executed) we will consider your request. In the meantime, please leave the peaceful nation of Jomon to its rice harvest.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 28 is out.

Taking djo's lead, we'll have the next turn due on THURSDAY so that everyone will have enough time to play their turns in spite of the delay.

Pasha