Alexander - PBEM Game - Running

[PashaDawg]

Game Settings:

Age: Late without R'lyeh or Ermor
Map: Alexander with late era scenario Link (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=573514&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Indies: 6
Magic sites: 45
Research: standard
Graphs: On
Renaming: On
Hall of Fame 15
Gold & resources: 100 each
Mods: None

Victory condition: Non-Cumulative Victory points. There are 36 victory point provinces (2 per nation) hand-placed on the map as evenly as possible (before nation assignments). No victory points are in a player capital or underwater. One must control 15 (approx. 40%) of the VP provinces to win.

Hosting schedule: Turns 1-15 daily; Turns 16 and later 3/week on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays.

PLAYER LIST:
Abysia - Wokeye
Agartha - DryaUnda
Arco - Don Corazon
Atlantis - Don_Seba
Bogarus - Jurri
Caelum - Lolomo
C'Tis - Stelteck
Jomon - Aristander
Man - Aethyr
Marignon - Pasha
Mictlan - Ano, then taken over by Karnoza for the win!!
Midgard - Calmon
Pan - djo
Patala - Klagrok
Pythium - Baalz
Tien Chi - Drake49
Ulm - Dedas
Utgard - Baldr

/threads/images/Graemlins/PointRight.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/PointRight.gif Attached is the late era scenario for this game with the VP provinces added by hand. I endeavored to distribute the VP's evenly but also in provinces where usually a fort would make sense.

[Baalz]

I'm in, nations to follow

[klagrok]

Book me as well--oops ill pm you my choices http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif

[calmon]

Nice map! I'm in.

Could we modify the victory condition and raise the 33% VP needed or at least make all of the VP provinces fortresses?

I played a game once with 40% VP (no capital) and the game has ended very soon because nations with teleport magic can jump into most of VP provinces and win (angels, bless commanders, etc).
And its a myth that most of people automacally build fortresses on the VP provinces (and not only newbs do this) and they are way to underprotected without!

[ano]

Count me in, please. Nations list is in PM.

[PashaDawg]

Hi Calmon:

As a general rule, I try to set things up so that games are likely to end between turn 65 - 90. If other players think the % should be a bit higher, then maybe I'll change it. My hope is by having 36 VP provinces (compared to only 18) that it will be a bit harder to do the old teleport trick.

Pasha

[calmon]

I would be fine with 33% when we use a rule like "you have to keep the provinces for 3 linked full turns" before it counts as a vicotry.

Well but this condition would need a manual process http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[ano]

I definitely agree with Calmon. Such rule would be good and it can be easily traced using score graphs. Game victory condition may be whatever and the winner will be declared by the host who traces the graph.

[Dedas]

My choices are as follows:
1. Bogarus
2. C'tis
3. Ulm
4. Jomon
5. Pan

[Zeldor]

I would join here if I wasn't starting newbie game on that map. Damn, I wish I had time to play that game too.

[Drake49]

I'm in. My list is
1.Arcoscephale
2.T'ien Ch'i
3.Mictlan
4.Vattihiem if that is available
5.Marignon.

[Don_Seba]

I would like in, if there are any slots left. I am not a newbie - I just used to get games on a different forum.

I will send my list to PashaDawg.

[djo]

I'd prefer keeping the original victory condition, with only the percentage changing if people want. "Keep and hold 3 turns" is a recipe for a too-long game. Now that we've all read this thread, we should all know to fortify the VPs and prevent sneak attack surprise wins.

[Baldr]

You can count me in. I will PM my choices.

I have been wanting to do this for awhile

[Dedas]

I'm with Djo.

[Micah]

Now that I think about it non-forted VPs make me a sad panda, I'm gonna go ahead and take a pass on the game. Thanks for the invite though.

[djo]

I don't think anyone is saying that fortifying VPs would be either forbidden or mandatory, just that you have to know that if you don't fortify, it increases the risk of the game suddenly, unexpectedly ending.

[PashaDawg]

Ok. All of the game slots are full. The next step is to assign players (and for me to tweak the scenario to add the VP provinces, which I will do before I know what nation I am playing).

If you have not sent me 5 choices, please do so.

Please send me an email, if I don't already have your email address. My email is pashadawg [at] gmail *dot* com Please include "Alexander" in the subject line for my email filter.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

I am reluctant to have a victory condition that requires players to count turns, etc. We could tweak the % necessary to win, maybe to 40%.

We could also explore whether cumulative VP's would be good (although, it is tricky to figure out the right # for cumulative VP's, at least for me with my terrible math skills). We could also have no VP's and strictly require a certain % of total provinces (but I like VP's).

Let's wait until Tuesday night (Boston time) before making the final decision on the victory condition, so players can discuss further. (And, we should not stray too far from the original proposed VP condition.)

Pasha

[Zeldor]

If a province with VP has a fort that VP is inside the fort or just inside the province?

[PashaDawg]

You have to take over the fort to get the VP. Thus, it is important for wise players to build forts on their VP provinces.

[Jurri]

I'm with Pasha, counting turns is a hassle. The original proposal sounds plenty challenging to me, and I don't see a problem in players snatching wins with teleporters or whatnot. In fact, I like the additional logistical challenge where you don't have anything for granted and need to seriously weigh whether to invest in defense or in offense: with capital VPs, you already have lots of mages and a strong fort to defend your VP.

Cumulative VPs would be fun, but it would be quite the hassle to switch to that at this point given that I understand a lot of players don't like them and might jump ship.

In general, I prefer games that have clearly defined and moderately easy to achieve victory conditions. That way they won't drag too long into the boring and time-intensive endgame.

[calmon]

Ok, if we stay with only 12 VP i'll pass in joining this.

I mean this is just too fast for most of nations and so its nothing more than a gamble for a super fast nation.

[djo]

How many turns' length game do you consider "too fast"?

[calmon]

I don't think it last till turn 50 and there is a good chance for not seeing the imprisoned pretenders (~36 turns).

[PashaDawg]

Obviously, this is a matter of taste, Calmon, and it would be great if you played. What if the setting was 14 VP provs? Would that still be too fast? After all, even 33% would mean that a player would essentially need to control 1/3 of the map in order to win.

[calmon]

You don't need to control 33% of the map to get 33% of the VPs and thats the main problem i have. For example nations like caelum (fly) the midgard (stealth) can easily jump deep in enemy lands and surpise attack the VP provinces (Sure you still need a good early game).

And like i said before you don't get any special bonus to fortify your low pop VP provinces and even i do it i'm sure many other don't. I've my experiences with this: http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=474486&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=1&vc=1
At the end only a few provinces were protected by fortresses and the winner got ~60% VPs at the end (40% was needed) and all this in 1 single turn. He had only a fraction (2 or 3 VPs) of this a turn before. He won with a massive angel teleport attack. Without some special nation features you're more an oberserver in such a game.

Thats why i dislike non-capital-VP games and maybe i should have think about before joining but to my defence i asked to change the victory condition http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

What do you think about 40% province ownership as win condition?

[djo]

I read the end of that thread, very interesting. (Side note: I like reading about people's tactics after the end of games, since I rarely survive to the end game myself.)

I would be happy to play with either the original VP condition or some % of provinces (30-40% range). If we stick with VPs, though, everyone should be aware that the surprise win has to be defended against.

[PashaDawg]

Ok. I think 40% is fine. That would be 15 VP provinces to win. Unless a player has strong concerns with that, let's use that victory condition.

[PashaDawg]

I have updated the scenario file to add the VP's. It is attached to the first post in this thread. While I think the VP placement is satisfactory, if anyone thinks any are wildly unfair, please let me know.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

I think I am just waiting on Aristander, Calmon and Dedas for nation choices.

Please get me your choices by Wednesday.

[Jurri]

Ahem, Calmon's saying that he'd prefer 40% of provinces, not VPs. Me, I don't like victory conditions based on provinces, since you can't protect your provinces by building forts the way you can your VPs. So a province-based victory condition is even more vulnerable to sneaky/flying/teleport/remote summon attacks, with no feasible counters available.

Also, 40% of Alexander is, what, 116 provinces? Even with a rather handsome 30-province grab at the end you'd need to run an empire of 60+ provinces for who knows how many turns... Not something I think is fun. Victory Points are great in that you can capture the necessary points in a much shorter time-frame (even without any sneaky teleport-grabs) and thus can ideally skip the mind-numbing end game shuffle.

[Wokeye]

40% of VPs sounds good. Lets do it.

[PashaDawg]

Ok. We'll use the 40% VP victory condition. That will be 15 VP's to win (up from 12). I have placed the VP's on the scenario. None of them are in underwater.

Pasha

[Nikolai]

Hey, did someone leave? If yes, can I join? I can have nation list quick, just say...

[Dedas]

This is getting so exciting! Can't wait to be crushed and get some more experience. I know some of you are eager to share... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[calmon]

I'm still in and sent my nations nikolai so i think there isn't a free slot.

[PashaDawg]

Sorry. No free slots.

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

I am looking forward to this game! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Here are the nation assignments:

Abysia - Wokeye
Agartha - DryaUnda
Arco - Don Corazon
Atlantis - Don_Seba
Bogarus - Jurri
Caelum - Lolomo
C'Tis - Stelteck
Jomon - Aristander
Man - Aethyr
Marignon - Pasha
Mictlan - Ano
Midgard - Calmon
Pan - djo
Patala - Klagrok
Pythium - Baalz
Tien Chi - Drake49
Ulm - Dedas
Utgard - Baldr

I'd like to get the game started on Sunday night. Please email me your pretender files by Sunday afternoon.

Please password protect your pretenders, because sometimes I accidentally hit the wrong nation when trying to play my own turn. If your turn is not password protected, then it opens up, and I have to try to close it without seeing anything that matters. I will have a master password that will allow me to turn a player AI or assign a replacement player if someone disappears.

Don't forget that we are not using any mods for this game.

Please always include "Alexander" in the subject line of all emails to me about this game. I use an email filter, and it helps me notice player turns, etc.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks.

Pasha

[Ironhawk]

Oh no. Poor me... locked out of the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[PashaDawg]

Sorry, Ironhawk. How rude of me to organize the game (and send you an email about it) while you were on vacation. Thoughtless and rude! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/heart.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Panda.gif

I hope you'll play next time (but I think you prefer CBM to Vanilla anyway).

[Jurri]

Hah, everyone wants to play in your games, Pasha! (Well, except for Micah http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

Looking forward to a fun game, all!

[Ironhawk]

No Pasha, I'm afraid there can be no forgiveness for this one... Only War!!

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[djo]

Attached to this post you will find the map with all the capitals and VPs marked (1.2M png).

[PashaDawg]

Nice, djo! Thanks for doing that. It looks quite nice.

Pasha

[Dedas]

This game will soon be rolling right?

[PashaDawg]

Yep! It will be rolling tonight (Boston time).

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

I have not received pretenders from:

Agartha (DryaUnda)
Arco (Don Corazon)
Midgard (Calmon)

Thanks.

Pasha

[klagrok]

Hey Pasha what time EST??? Or are you waiting for the 3 no shows until you begin??

[Aristander]

It is 7:37 EST

PashaDawg normally gives people until 9 pm EST

[PashaDawg]

Turn 1 is out.

Deadline is Monday night at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

[Aristander]

Boston time, oh yes Boston the great Citadel on the Charles River, the Hub of the Universe, the City on the Edge of Forever.
Wait, I do not see Boston on this "Alexander" map.
Must be a printing error.

[Wokeye]

Boston is in Canada somewhere, right?

*Looks up world clock*

j/k BTW...

[Dedas]

Boston time means time for Dominions! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

I live 2 hours north of Boston, and I figured it is easier to announce "Boston time" rather than "Portland, Maine time". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Don_Seba]

PashaDawg said:
Turn 1 is out. [snip]



Ok, so I'm dumb. It is out where?

[Dedas]

It has been mailed to you hopefully.

[Don_Seba]

I did not receive a personal message on this forum, nor did I receive an e-mail on the account I used to contact PashaDawg. May I have the turn resent?

[PashaDawg]

Oops. Sorry, Don_Seba. I programmed my email script for this game incorrectly and left you out! Your turn has been emailed, and I have corrected the script. I will wait until tomorrow to let you submit your turn as necessary.

Pasha

[Don_Seba]

I got the turn, and sent some orders back. It's not as if I had to script a dozen mages on turn one :-)

Still, I would appreciate if you tell me how long it took for the mail to arrive. I have been told yahoo.fr has horrible delays to the States. I sent the orders at 8:20 'Boston time'.

[PashaDawg]

Hi Don_Seba:

Your email arrived at 8:17 p.m. Boston time. I was at a rehearsal, and so I did not get home to receive the email until about 9:50 p.m.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 2 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

[Dedas]

Ugh! My whole order scale disappeared and I got 3 (yes 3!) bad events the second turn... I'm starting to reeeally dislike the scales bug.

[Wokeye]

ouch nasty.

[Dedas]

If you look at my (Ulm) graph for income you can see the effect pretty well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

[PashaDawg]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Dedas]

Oh well, that must be the great malediction that is mentioned in the nation description. So I guess it is only thematic.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 3 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 4 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 5 is out.

Deadline is Friday night at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

[Don_Seba]

> Oh well, that must be the great malediction that is mentioned in the nation description. So I guess it is only thematic.

I'll top that. I have order and growth scales. Or at least, I chose them. Last turn, I lost them. This turn, I had the 'major plague' event. Now my capital population is 13K. I do not think this is survivable. At least Ulm's capital will recover from the unrest.

Screw this. v3.14 is barely playable.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 6 is out.

Deadline is Saturday night at 9:00 pm Boston time

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 7 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night at 9pm.

Pasha

[ano]

Is turn 8 not ready yet or I just didn't receive the email?

[klagrok]

I PMd Pasha as I didnt get my turn as well--so assuming it hasnt run yet or maybe he is too busy with a snow shovel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Sorry. I was making merry last night and "forgot" to host the turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I think I am still waiting on Klagrok's turn. I will wait until lunch time if necessary.

[Zeldor]

PashaDawg:

Check PM from me!

[klagrok]

PashaDawg resent turn--luckily I have Monday's off whoo hooo!!!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 8 is out.

Because of the delay, the turn will be due on TUESDAY night. If players get their turns in quickly, I'd be happy to host tonight instead.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 9 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday night.

Pasha

[Dedas]

This is weird, when the new patch arrives my now sacred ghouls will be plain units. That means that the bless I invested in is practically worthless. I'm playing Ulm btw.

[calmon]

What do you mean? You should have sacred undead ghoul guadians and sacred black templars. Both troops are blessable by your priests. This works with 3.14 (there were a bug before where only undead priests blessed undead sacreds and non-undead priests non-undead sacreds).

[ano]

In new patch this will be changed
http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html

[calmon]

ah ok i missread it and thought he meant the 3.14 patch.

Well then it may be a problem for you if we get the new patch the next ~30 days. After that in mid/late game home province only blessed troops shouldn't be that big impact.

[Dedas]

One can only hope, Calmon. I've already been hit hard by the recent scale bug causing me to slip down into an early doom; but so have many of my opponents I've heard. Ok, whine mode off. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[klagrok]

I got the bug and a few 'nice' #$##$$%% events as well.

[Wokeye]

I'm hoping Abysia will get some LA love in the coming patch. My reformed smoker LA troops itch for something to make them feel unique and powerful again.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 10 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 11 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[ano]

Mictlan will have a permanent sub, 'cause I found out that it's quite impossible for me to normally handle 3 games in mid/late stage...
His name is karnoza. Pasha, can you please make changes in the first post?

[Jurri]

Oh, that's too bad, ano! Your graphs have been quite impressive so far, I would have liked to see how you'd follow up on them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Aethyr]

Yes, I agree; those graphs are impressive.

[ano]

I don't think it's too bad because I just can't devote enough time to the game resulting in stupid mistakes like the one I've made this turn. That's unacceptable for me. It was a mistake to sign up to this game but I was sure I would go to AI in another one. But everything changed unexpectedly...
I hope we'll meet in some other game, Jurri. As for the "graphs" I just wish the players in this game not to waste time and power fighting each other but to confront you together instead, because it may appear too late to do in the nearest 15-20 turns.

[ano]

Aethyr said:
Yes, I agree; those graphs are impressive.


Whose graphs do you mean?))

[Jurri]

As for the "graphs" I just wish the players in this game not to waste time and power fighting each other but to confront you together instead, because it may appear too late to do in the nearest 15-20 turns.

Now that's not a nice thing to say, at all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[ano]

Why? I think it's quite obvious. No one wants you to win too quickly))

[Dedas]

I'm afraid of the bogarussian bear.

[Jurri]

As well you should, rawr.


Why? I think it's quite obvious. No one wants you to win too quickly))

Hmm, I don't think it's obvious. Quite the opposite, in fact. The victory condition is to possess 15 victory points at once: me, I would think there are any number of easier victory points to grab than the few I hold.

But that's neither here nor there; I just wanted to compliment you on your early game, not start a discussion about whether I should be ganged up on or not http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Dedas]

I'm really interested in the strategy you used for expanding, Jurri. But I guess I can't know until after the game, so I will stop asking. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Jurri's a tricky, sneaky Finn. 'Nuff said. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Oops. I said that turn 11 was due on Sunday, but it due tonight. I am still waiting on Aristander, and so, I will give him an extension, in case he relied on my previous post.

Pasha

[Aristander]

Double Oops. I thought I sent it but I did not. Will send turn at once.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 12 is out.

Because of the delay, the turn will due on Sunday, but I'd be happy to host tonight if all the eager beavers get their turns in. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 13 is out.

Deadline is Monday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 14 is out.

Deadline is Tues. night at 9:00 pm Boston time

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Wow the borders have closed in quickly. Hadly enoguh room for the swinging of abysian firecats.

[Dedas]

When will the precious turn be out? I'm eagerly awaiting it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 15 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

(We have now switched to the 3-turn / week schedule. Turns will be hosted on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.)

Pasha

[Drake49]

T'ien Ch'i is willing to buy Earth Boots. We will pay with fifteen gems of any combination astral/death/earth/nature. We will supply the earth gems for the forging + 5 other gems of any type if you don't have the earth gems. We will pay gold as well. We will also agree to deliver a thistle mace or skull staff as soon as research allows.

Responses can be sent to:
tien_chi555@yahoo.com

[Dedas]

Drake, supply me with the earth gems and the rest and you will have your boots asap.

Scholar of Ulm

[PashaDawg]

Turn 16 is out.

Turns will be due on Sunday night.

Pasha

[DonCorazon]

Osseric has released the elephants on Jomon after the Arcos emissary mistranslated our word for peace which sounds very much like war in Jomonese. Oops!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 17 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night at 9pm Boston time.

pasha

[PashaDawg]

Utgard has gone AI.

[Aristander]

Osseric of Arco, do you wish to worship Amanozako? I can see by your attack on the Crystal Citadel that YOU DO NOT.

Be warned it is a great sin against Amanozako to send Elephants to stomp his servants and yet I see that you have done so. It is a sin too, to scorn Him; but you have done this also. And it is a GREAT sin in His eyes to seek to use His secrets in any way other than in His service - AND THIS TOO, YOU WOULD DO!

Be warned and Live. Live and prey to your weak god that you are destroyed in the first shock of the Great Awakening. It will not be well for you to reap Amanozako's wrath!

[DonCorazon]

The Crystal Palace happens to be built upon the seasonal breeding grounds of the Arcosphalean Elephant, Pachydermus Horribilis, which is why the beasts are constantly mounting the statue of Amanozako. Rather than letting your pretender suffer this indignity, we your kind neighbors, would like to repossess the Crystal Palace and restore it to its native habitat.

[PashaDawg]

Wait!

In this game, Don Corazon is playing Arco, and Aristander is playing Jomon.

But...

In EPOTARA, isn't it the other way around?

The alternate universes are blurring and making me pop a screw.

[Aristander]

Yes, you are correct PashaDawg. Except there is one important difference.

My Arco elephants in Epotara break morale and trample my own units. Don Corazon's pesky pachyderms defy fire spells, paralyzing blowguns, and early thugs to squish my heavy infantry.

Rest assured that the Crystal Citadel shall be free of "Pachydermus Horribills" and their BLASPHEMOUS breading rites as soon as the stars are right.

[DonCorazon]

Aristander my friend - the problem is the statues of Amanozako bear an uncanny similarity to the Arcosphalean female elephant in full heat. This incites the male bulls to near berserk morale and has led to many stains on your holy statues.

Rest assured, we shall fix the problem once we have gained control of the province. Fellow pretenders, even our foes, deserve more respect than this...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 18 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Aristander]

Today we morn the untimely death of Kenji the Red Tengu. Kenji left his own kind in their mountain home to serve Amanozako. A master of the sword, Kenji gave his life to vanquish the "Pachydermus Horribills" from the sacred Crystal Citadel.
A statue will be erected in his honor.

[DonCorazon]

Survivors report Kenji descended from the sky right into the middle of the Arcosephalean army, his blades whirring in a blur of amazing swordsmanship, which lasted about three seconds before he was impaled by a Cardace spear.

Jomon's retribution was furious as they unleashed all manner of sorcerous elements on Arcos, leading to a complete route. The elephants in particular have been traumatized.

Osseric will not be pleased.

[Wokeye]

With the prophesized coming of star 'v3:15', the Abysians have had large social upheaval and have re-structured their military.

The Volcano Lord is relatively pleased (he cannot be that pleased, being smashed by a horde of indy trolls recently), and will seek to commission some new troops in the border skirmishes against Ulm. ...and maybe for troll hunting, too.

[PashaDawg]

Hi:

I will apply the new patch when I host the current turn, and so players should play the current turn BEFORE patching. If for some reason there are problems, we'll be able to go back to a previous turn from a backup.

Pasha

[Jurri]

But, but, what about the horrible, horrible nerf to Bogarus? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

And what about that poor sap who attacked Ulm? What's he gonna say when he learns that they got all kindsa new tricks? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

[PashaDawg]

But, but... how about fixing the scale bug?

And, no doubt the Fivefold Angel's new stump weapon will make it all okay.

[Wokeye]

Jurri said:
...what about that poor sap who attacked Ulm? What's he gonna say when he learns that they got all kindsa new tricks? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif


We will use our own new tricks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

Turn 19 is out. It has been hosted with Patch 3.15.

Deadline is Sunday.

Pasha

[Dedas]

Wokeye said:

Jurri said:
...what about that poor sap who attacked Ulm? What's he gonna say when he learns that they got all kindsa new tricks? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif


We will use our own new tricks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif



Leave us alone in our misery! Both of you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 20 is out. Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

The Abysian matrons have readied their obsidian brooms and 'caldera' flavour air fresheners to rid the Ulmish capital of the smell of dog - truly, the packs of wolves locked inside the city must pose some serious animal welfare/human health issues. The <insert relevant animal welfare organisation here> will be busy, seeing as the beasts are being forced to carry blocks of stone on their backs!

[DonCorazon]

Arcos elephant population is dwindling rapidly now that Jomon has recaptured the ancient breeding grounds and the elephants don't have the statues of Amanozako to arouse their reproductive instincts. Those of you interested in saving these magnificent beasts, soon to be extinct, please declare war on Jomon.

Save Pachyermis Horribilis!

[PashaDawg]

Turn 21 is out.

Deadline for turns is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Aristander]

Osseric of Arco, you wish to take Jomon’s Crystal Citadel by the spear so that your elephants can perform wanton rites for your amusement.
You were warned that it is a great sin against Amanozako to defile His righteous Altar and hence His heavenly essences. YET THENCE YOU’RE LUSTFUL ORGIES YOU WOULD ENLARGE.
It is a GREAT sin against Amanozako to lure others away from his service and into sin and thralldom for your despicable ends. AND THIS TOO, YOU WOULD DO!

Be warned and Live.

Live and prey to your weak god that you are destroyed in the first shock of the Great Awakening. It will not be well for you to reap Amanozako's wrath!

[DonCorazon]

Jomon’s limited interest in the arts and literature makes it understandable as to why you have not read the Arocsephalean epic known as the Ossericiad (standard reading in most classrooms in Alexander). It tells the tale of how the hero Osseric ascended to the heavens, imprisoning the evil Amanozako in a tomb of petrified elephant dung that floats miles above the earth and looks very similar to the moon.

At any rate, Osseric is still walking around enjoying the freedom of being awake and slaughtering mortals as you can see from the Hall of Fame. Amonozako is still a twinkle in the sky and by the time he shows up, we shall see if Osseric is still merciful enough to simply imprison him…

[PashaDawg]

Turn 22 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

[Aristander]

“That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.”

Amanozako will awaken!

When the stars are right the chosen ones will answer Amanozako’s call to astound a reeling universe.

Osseric you have been warned, AND YET YOU DEFILE THE CRYSTAL CITADEL ONCE AGAIN! While The Great Awakening draws ever closer and Amanozako’s shadow looms, still you choose to assault us with the spear in an effort to use His secrets for yourself.

You have seen the signs, ignore them at your peril for soon enough Amanozako’s powers will confound the world.


(I honestly never thought you would attack again so soon or I would have had more mages on patrol. Enjoy your small victory while you can, you won the battle by the tip of your claw.)

[DonCorazon]

Aristander said:
(I honestly never thought you would attack again so soon or I would have had more mages on patrol. Enjoy your small victory while you can, you won the battle by the tip of your claw.)



Like the bolts of divine lightning he hurls, Osseric strikes when least expected. The elephant breeding grounds must be restored! Earth First, we'll mine Mars later!

[Wokeye]

DonCorazon said:
Like the bolts of divine lightning he hurls, Osseric strikes when least expected. The elephant breeding grounds must be restored! Earth First, we'll mine Mars later!



Yes, but striking southwards too?? It is but wastelands filled with Abysian firelords and Tien Chi Barbarian hordes!

[DonCorazon]

Wokeye, don't tell me you too have not been reading your Ossericiad? We thought we had made this required reading.

Chapter 874 tells of how in 3890 B.O. Ulmish warriors helped stop the sack of Arcos and in return Osseric pledged to aid the young Ulmites. While Arcos had not wished to get drawn into the endless wars of the south, honor demands we provide some support to fend off demons, barbarians, and other forms of illiteracy.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 23 is out.

Deadline for turns is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Oh, must have missed that Chapter. Skipped through to the sex scene in Chapter 927. We Abysians like it HOT.

[Dedas]

To the barbarian league (T'ien Ch'i, Abysia and Atlantis):

Ulm like to discuss peace between our nations.
We are well aware that peace will be costly for us, but we are ready to give what is needed. This is our offer:

To T'ien Ch'i
The provinces of Welrydh and Kolermegor.

To Abysia
The province Epernia and 12 water gems.

To Atlantis
The province Carnag and 200 gold.

The demands of Ulm:

The complete withdrawal of troops within Ulm's borders

A 2 year (24 turns) peace agreement.

Signed
Boethius of Ulm

[Wokeye]

Boethius - maybe we are in league, maybe just coincidence, but barbarians?? Just misunderstood, perhaps?

Nevertheless - an interesting proposal. If only our 'barbaric' leaders could read, then they could pretend to deliberate about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Jurri]

Sorry for the delay, folks: I had some hardware issues, but they should be resolved now. Excelsior!

[PashaDawg]

Hi:

Turn 24 is out.

Because of the delay, turns will be due on FRIDAY night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 25 is out.

Sorry for not hosting yesterday... I forgot! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Deadline for turns is Sunday night.

Pasha

[Dedas]

You will never be forgiven!

Just kidding, thanks for hosting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[DonCorazon]

Geraldos Riveros reporting from Arcos:

The 7th legion was slaughtered by a veritable horde of Tien Chin barbarian horsemen. Ulm, no further help will be coming from Arcos. Arcos appeals to the barbarian league for peace...

Meanwhile, the 5th legion's efforts to reclaim the elephant breeding grounds (conveniently, err...coincidentally located at the site of Jomon's Crystal Citadel) continues with little progress. No sign of the mysterious Amonozako, reportedly a fearsome god...

[Dedas]

Things are looking very bleak for already misfortunate Ulm. As we are rotting away in our castles the barbarian league is rampaging the civilized world. Arcoscephale, the cradle of great culture, is in danger.
We plead to anyone with the sufficient power to help us. Please help us...

[DonCorazon]

Just think how less entertaining the world will be without us! Our comedic value alone warrants intervention. - Sent from iPhone while wife shops

[Jurri]

Oh, how I wish I could help... But the bastion of civilization that is Bogarus is also under attack by all kinds of savages.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 26 is out. Deadline is Tuesday.

Pasha

[Aristander]

While the priests of Amanozako are waiting for the "Great Awakening" cooped up in the besieged Crystal Citadel, they have glimpsed passages from the black tome that is the Ossericiad.
After all they do get tired of watching the Elephants fornicate. Allowed shuddering glimpses of an ancient "mythology" filled with unholy rites and demonic invocations, the priests prey for the day of Amanozako's deliverance.

That day will come soon the signs are ominous.

[DonCorazon]

If Jomon has not eaten them yet (how long can this damn siege last?), you should hang onto those copies of the Ossericiad because the barbarians are burning the great library in Babylonia and only a few copies remain.

It appears Arcosephalean elephant meat is a delicacy in Tien Chin. Six prime specimens were devoured like cows in a pirahna pond by their horde of barbarian calvary.

We predict Tien Chin's barbarians will one day cover the world in horse patties!

[Dedas]

One ancient fortress of Ulm has fallen into the hands of the sea and ice dwellers. I hope they enjoy the fires we made before we left by the escape tunnel.

Two fortresses still stand, the great city of Ulm and the citadel of Typhalia. But fear has broken out in the city of Ulm as the falls have begun to crumble. Soon the fires of Abysian hell will fall upon us.

Abysian assassins have also begun stalking the city at night as the illuminated Ofagion found out. He blasted the intruder with fire from stars and the slayer was no more.

Day 140 of the siege. Terror! A great hunger has broken out in the city! The guardians defending the walls have begun cannibalizing their dead comrades and promptly turned into ghouls as punishment for their crime. On the bright side they are no longer starving.

[Wokeye]

That assassin was indeed weak, and did not deserve his title. He will never rise as a smoulderghost for the glory of Abysia, unlike the Warbred who accidentally ate an undead ulmish cat recently.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 27 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 28 is out. Deadline for turns is Sunday night.

Pasha

[DonCorazon]

Sign on the Arcos capital:

GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE!

MASSIVE MARK DOWNS!

EVERYTHING UP TO 90% OFF!

AFTER 28 MONTHS OF BUSINESS, WE ARE LIQUIDATING!

* * *

Geraldos Riveros reporting live from Arcos:
Caelum has joined the barbarian alliance. Tien Chin is offering Arcos territory to other nations that it has yet to even acquire. The gates of civilization shall fall soon to a sordid band of savage horseman and humanoid chickens!

On the northern front, the elephant breeding grounds have been restored and the elephants are back to their daily rituals with the statues of Amonozako. While the coffee shop Arcos hippies are happy about this, they don't seem to realize the heavy price paid for the elephant's future as Jomon fields a massive army to the west, ready to strike down with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy his brothers.

Beware the growing power of Tien Chin. We think their legions of ancestor vessels, spirit spamming mages, and heavy barbarian calvary will one day rule the world, even more so when they come to enjoy the rich troves of magical gems, forge bonus magic sites, and fabulous indie wizards we have discovered in Arcos!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Dedas]

Even though everyone forgotten, in the black forest, in the great keeps of stone, the proud people of Ulm still dwells. Sieged by various armies from various nations for countless days, the war never ends. Behind the city walls life still goes on with daily rations being delivered from sacks that never empties. Research is made in the deep dungeons by scholars like Boethius the great.
Will the Ulmish people ever be set free or will the barbarian league wipe them from the face of the known world? Some Ulmians hope that the enemy will some day tire of sieging and let them live in peace. Some still hope that the glorious 7th legion from ancient Arcoscephale will save them. Some that the scholars will invent a magic weapon to crush the enemy. Most, however, just drown their sorrows in beer.

Help us, before it is too late. Help us...

[DonCorazon]

Dedas, good thing news of the 7th legions obliteration (they are now fertilizing Tien Chin's grasslands) has not reached the beer swilling Ulmites.

Arcos philosophers ponder the meaning of existence, its students praise the saving of a near extinct animal, and its soldiers fight meaningless wars in foreign lands - all oblivious to the fact the decline of their civilization is irreversible (hmm...wait that sounds like the country I live in).

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Dedas]

We are already through that over here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Wait a minute...

[PashaDawg]

Turn 29 is out. Deadline is Tuesday night.

[Dedas]

Ulm has turned AI with no provinces left.

[DonCorazon]

Arcos streak of misfortune continues with a rebel general who left the capital with the entire legion (eg I somehow accidentally ordered him out) and stumbled onto a huge TC raiding party. The 4th Legion was decimated. We expect the capital will fall as soon as the barbarians get wind that it is undefended.

[Jurri]

Thanks for the game Dedas!

[Dedas]

Thank YOU Jurri. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Wokeye]

The Coalition of the Violitional have brought the eeebil Reign of Vampire Counts to an end. And stuff.

GG Dedas.

[Drake49]

Great Khan Huo has issued the following response:
Calling the Hoard, one of the mightiest mortal land armies in the world a 'raiding party' is typical of the 'civilized' nation of Arco's arrogance towards the Barbarian Kings. This began when Arco attacked the Hoard without warning, and compounded the insult by not inflicting ANY damage with their surprise attack. At least the insults of Arco against the Barbarian Kings will soon end.

Out of character, Arco made a number of mistakes this game that are typically made by players that are not putting enough time in their turns... and Arco was indeed in two end-games. Arco spent little time on this game, and with it over, is now free to focus on his new game. Instead of splitting time and playing several games, badly. Only very experienced playes can deal with multiple end-games at once without spending alot of time, and sometimes not even them.

PS:
I am new to this game, but not games in general. I've played others, thought this is the most impressively detailed. And I don't think bad choices should be eliminated.

You know what "balance" is? The inability to make mistakes.

[DonCorazon]

I am not sure I understand the point of your post.

I am playing in a number of games at different stages and doing well in most. Just because I am on my way out in Alexander doesn’t mean I am “not putting enough time in my turns” or am “splitting time and playing several games, badly”. At least two other players went out before me – does that mean they weren’t putting enough time into their turns?

I actually have put time into trying to make this game entertaining / engaging with forum posts despite some strategic mistakes, such as trying to help Ulm while engaged in a war with Jomon.
That decision wasn’t a rash one, but rather based on a good relationship with Ulm, and the fear of letting TC take Ulm unchecked. It turned out Ulm was much weaker than I expected, put up no fight, and it turned out to be a bad move. But it wasn’t made thoughtlessly.

Now Caelum has ended its NAP and with me, I am still fighting Jomon, Ulm has fallen, and TC has a huge horde of barbarian cavalry, there is really little hope.

Note: Having the troops move out of my fort this last turn was certainly a mistake and I am not sure how it happened. It may have been accidentally clicking on a province to check troops/details without realizing all my troops were highlighted. That was a mistake (first time it has happened to me) but does not mean I have not taken this game seriously.

I am not sure I interpreted your post correctly (and if I didn’t then excuse me), but I don’t really appreciate your comments.

[PashaDawg]

I agree that Drake's comments are probably best made privately, assuming I am not misunderstanding them, too. Please, let's keep things friendly here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Wokeye]

+1 Pasha.

Sometimes we need to be reminded that it we need to maintain separation between the game personailities/actions and the individual, or we would all be mortal enemies in RL!

[Drake49]

Well, if you are offended by Great Khan Huo, please understand that he impaled his last 'social graces' teacher and we have yet to find a replacement.

However, my comments that you seem distracted in this game, maybe because of other games, or maybe because of Real Life, well I believe that is what happened. This has happened, at one time or another, to half or more of the board. I don't really see how this is an insult. You used good tactics one battle, next battle no tactics.

The bottom of my post actually wasn't addressed to you but a general comment that popped out of my head right then. Sorry if it offended you, rereading it, it doesn't make much sense in context.

Anyway, if you still upset about the MoD cheat, well I think I can agree with everyone else and say it is a cheat, and I'm sorry it happened to you.

I apologize for Great Khan Huo, because he certainly isn't going to apologize, but would like to add that you trying to agitate the rest of the world to attack him, made him a little mad. With cause.

[DonCorazon]

No worries Drake. But FYI this is the line that bugged me


Drake49 said:
Arco spent little time on this game...



because that is not true.

But it is all good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

FYI the reason there were no tactics in that last battle was because those troops were not intended to leave my capital - that is what I meant when I said earlier that I made a mistake - not sure how the little rebels escaped but my intention was to have them defend the castle and thus no battlefield placement was necessary at the moment. I must have accidentally clicked on something that caused them to move. Even worse, it landed them in the path of your Horde.

That was a fatal error. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

As for the MoD incident, the only thing sad about that was a player quit. I am certainly not mad about it and never was - my reaction to the move was shock. If you go back to my original post, you'll see I was trying to figure out if that was a real strategy, and if so how it could be countered because my initial impression was it was going to wipe me out every time.

Finally, as for trying to incite the world against Great Khan Huo, that is just DC-style diplomacy. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

And like that... he is gone.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Wokeye]

I knew Keyser Söze was you DC!!

..or should we call you 'Mr Spacey'??

[PashaDawg]

Turn 30 is out. Deadline is Thursday.

[DonCorazon]

Wokeye said:
I knew Keyser Söze was you DC!!

..or should we call you 'Mr Spacey'??

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif - more like Fenster in this game

[PashaDawg]

Turn 31 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 32 is out. Deadline is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 33 is out. Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[djo]

We're not quite sure how our scout came to be sieging that fortress, but we apologize, and we assume Atlantis will have no trouble evicting him.

[Wokeye]

ROFL I saw that scout on the Atlantis castle.

"err...sir...there's a pangaean scout outside, claiming that he's besieging our castle."
"One guy, and he's a scout???"
"yes sir - he's got some balls, sir"
"Right! Trident throwing practice, on the walls in 5 minutes!!"

[PashaDawg]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 34 is out. Deadline is Sunday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

[DonCorazon]

Arcos has been set to AI - our last remnants of dominion should vanish shortly.

[Wokeye]

GG DC

[PashaDawg]

Turn 35 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

Thanks

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 36 is out.

Deadline is Thursday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 37 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 38 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Abysia hears rumours of a clash of mighty Alexander powers. Any reports on this available?

[PashaDawg]

Turn 39 is out. Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

No reports on the big war, eh? *sends hordes of scouts into the world*

[PashaDawg]

Turn 40 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Hi All:

It appears that Pythium went AI about one or two turns ago. (I have just sent a PM to Baalz to make sure it was intentional.) Given that they are one of the biggest empires on the map, it might be better to have a human play them. I can easily use a back up to take us back to turn 38 or 37 and find a sub.

What would players prefer? Keep going or go back?

Pasha

[Baalz]

Oh, sorry I didn't mention anything, but the score graphs are very misleading in this case and I'd recommend not sticking anybody with Pythium. Most of the territories left are underwater with no way to recruit more troops and I'm being heavily attacked by two other of the leading nations. Additionally I made some pretty bad choices in my nation build (taking sloth and trying to use mostly dual blessed hydras doesn't work too well past indie expansion...well except in kicking a non-water nation out the water).

If you do decide to try and get a sub let me know so I can tell them the password.

[PashaDawg]

Okay. No player expressed a strong preference to find a human sub for Pythium, and a few preferred to keep going as is. So, we'll just keep going.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 41 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 42 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Stelteck]

I did the current turn, but due to 1st may holiday i will not be able to manage next turn before sunday morning.

Sorry.
Stelteck of Ctiss.

[PashaDawg]

You've given me your turn that's due on Thursday, and the next turn would not be due until Sunday night. If necessary, I can wait until Monday morning for your turn.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 43 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night.

Pasha

[Stelteck]

Ha ha ha !! The atlantis troops run for their lives and refuse to engage.

They prefers to let their "ally" marignon take all the risk of the battle.

The lord of atlantis is not very brave....

[PashaDawg]

Turn 44 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 45 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[klagrok]

Hey Pasha wake up!!!! It's almost 6 a.m. there....

[PashaDawg]

Whuah... Whoa... WHAT? Oh! Ugh...

Turn 46 is out. Deadline is Sunday night. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 47 is out. Deadline is Thursday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 48 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 49 is out. Deadline is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 50 is out. Deadline is Thursday night.

I got Atlantis's turn this time. Thanks, all.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 51 is out.

Someone has suggested taking a break until Tuesday, due to the holiday weekend here in the US. So, the next turn will be due on Tuesday.

Thanks.

Pasha

[LoloMo]

I'm ok with the break

[PashaDawg]

Turn 52 is out. Deadline is Thursday night.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

So I saw a cool little spell in my list "Astral Corruption". Sounds like fun - anyone mind if I try it out? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[PashaDawg]

Har har.

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

I went ahead and hosted the turn with the new patch.

If players have objections, etc., then we can easily revert back. I have kept a backup of everything that would be needed.

Assuming all is well, then the next turn will be due on Sunday.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 54 is out. Deadline is Tuesday night.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

The Firelords of Abysia are not pleased with the newest Global Enchantment. We burn the brightest, but also the shortest.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 55 is out. Deadline is Thursday.

Marignon is also quite cranky about the new global enchantment.

[Wokeye]

The mighty Abysian Astral mages are successful in ridding the world of the deadly aging global!

[PashaDawg]

Yay!

[Wokeye]

Too bad about those others, though.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 56 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 57 is out. Because the hosting was today, the turns will be due on Thursday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 58 is out. Deadline is Sunday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 59 is out. Deadline is Tuesday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 60 is out. Deadline is Friday, due to the late hosting.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 61 is out. Deadline is Tuesday.

Sorry for the delay in hosting.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Fire meets Lightning on the Abysia/Caelum border. The magical swimming mammoths are an interesting development, although the Demon Lords do not mind their dinner being closer to home.

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

Turns were technically due tonight (Thursday).

I have not received turns from:

Tien Chi
Caelum
Atlantis

I am going out of town. So, I suggest that the deadline be Sunday night.

Also, some players have asked if it would be possible to switch to a 2 turn / week schedule because turns are taking longer. What do other players think?

Thanks.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Not worried myself, whatever people need.

[LoloMo]

I'm ok with 2 turns per week. I've been late a few times this month myself.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 64 is out.

Deadline is Sunday.

We are now on a 2 turn per week schedule: Sundays and Wednesdays.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Hi:

I am going to a conference next week (Tuesday through Sunday), and I won't be available to host the turns while I am away. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Not a work jaunt to the Carribean or somewhere 'pleasant', Pasha? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

San Francisco. A super sexy bankruptcy trustee conference. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

(The conference is super sexy, not the trustees. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

[calmon]

My last turn is from july 3rd. Any updates here? I've still some fun to play http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PashaDawg]

Turn 65 is out.

Turns will be due on Wednesday.

Pasha

[Wokeye]

Thanks Pasha, although I'd forgotten just how much trouble I'm in...

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

Karnoza is off on vacation for about 2 weeks, and he will likely not be able to play much while away. Given that his position in the game is substantial and that we are only playing 2 turns per week, I recommend that we put the game on a hold status until he returns. If he is able to get turns in, then I will host.

If someone has any objections, please let me know. The alternative is to turn him AI, which would be bad.

Thanks.

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Turn 66 is out.

I am not sure if Karnoza is back yet. But, let's shoot to play the next turn by Thursday.

Don_Seba (Atlantis) has fallen out of contact. So, I have turned him AI.

Pasha

[ano]

Karnoza will be back on Wednesday

[Wokeye]

Oh noes! Seba is gone! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Now I'm really in trouble LOL.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 67 is out.

Damn the AI Atlantis! They attacked poor Marignon while we fight for our lives against the evil Karnoza!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Pasha

[PashaDawg]

Oh! Turn is due on Thursday.

[PashaDawg]

Turn 69 is out.

Deadline is Thursday.

This game is pretty much between Drake and Karnoza. I am happy to keep playing to give them a chance to duke it out. But, they should not feel obligated to play if it is taking too much time. :)

Pasha

[ano]

I think that deadline is not needed already ;)
As a permanent side watcher and sometimes adviser, I'd like to congratulate Karnoza on his first (and very big) victory here. It was a good game indeed and the opposition was really strong. He was doing a terrific micromanagement job during the last turns and, I know, it's very, very hard and time consuming to reign such a huge empire. I was beginning his game for Mictlan and I'm really glad that Karnoza managed to to lead these bloodthirsty nation to victory.

Also, I was very much impressed by the empire of T'ien-Chi. Drake ruled them very well and if this game had another victory condition, who knows, how it would end.

[PashaDawg]

Ooops! Hee hee.

YES! Congratulations, Karnoza. Excellent job! :banana:

Pasha