CTD when trying to start a new game :(

[Semigall]

I get a CTD when i'm clickling in game's menu on "Create a New Game" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Also, when that happens i get this error message:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8726/problemcr5.jpg

What's wrong ? How do i avoid this ?

*edit*
Game version is 3.14

[llamabeast]

Are you running a mod?

[Semigall]

llamabeast said:
Are you running a mod?


Yes.

All of the additional nation mods + few others.

Is there some max limit of mod number ?

[Endoperez]

Yes. It was increased for 3.14, so it'd be nice to know how many sprites will cause a crash. Could you list the mods you have enabled when it crashes?




http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html
17th nov
* Bug preventing more than a hundred sprites or so in mods has been squashed.

[Semigall]

Endoperez said:
Yes. It was increased for 3.14, so it'd be nice to know how many sprites will cause a crash. Could you list the mods you have enabled when it crashes?


It'll be a long list...

All these:


Name: Draconia, Rule of the Dragon Kings
Author: Mr_Matt

Name: Nature, Tooth and Claw
Author: Cor2

Name: The Troll Kingdoms
Author: Grizly

Name: Alugra, City of Wonders
Author: Burnsaber

Nane: Urdheim, The Infinite Horde
Author: Saulot

Name: Rohan,
Author: Foodstamp

Name: Gaea, Cradle of Forests
Author: Foodstamp

Name: Dinnas'Arval,
Author: Juzza

Name:Carthacia, Age of Exploration
Author: DrPraetorious

Name: Ogri, Stones of Blood
Author: DrPraetorious

Name: Padmassa, the Black Coven
Author: DrPraetorious

Name: Magoserium, Mana Starved Mages
Author: Uh-Nu-Buh

Name: Haida Gwaii, Reunified Tribes
Author: Foodstamp

Name: Seraphim, Angelic Crusade
Author: Amos

Name: Insectoids, The Blight
Author: Amos

Name: Machaka, Spider Cult
Author: Twan

Name:Sar Elad, Age of Miracles
Author: Nerfix

Name: Nehekhara, Tomb Kings
Author: llamabeast

Name: 11 Nations Mod
Author: sube

Name: Greyhawk Mod
Author: Twan

Name: Mushroom Kingdom
Author: UninspiredName

Name: Tasilondren, Sphere Binders
Author: DrPraetorious

Name: Seraphim, Impirium Angelicus
Author: Amos

Name: Stigia, Desert of Secrets
Author: Amos

Name: Commonwealth, Landfall
Author: Amos

Name: Theran Empire, Horror Scourge
Author: Amos

Name: Fallen Empire, Chaos Wars
Author: Amos

Name: The Hoburg Alliance, Beer and Apples
Author: Teraswaerto

Name: Absaroka, Blood Moon Rising
Author: Maraxus

Name: Skaven, Warhammer Nation
Author: Sombre

Name: Ogre Kingdoms, Warhammer Nation
Author: Sombre

Name: Arga Dis, Blood and Bronze
Author: Sombre

Name: Tharoon, Decadent Overlords
Author: Sombre

Name: Avernum, the Awakening
Author: Sombre

Name: Free Port, Time of Conquest
Author: Juzza

Name: Tarent, Rise of Technology
Author: Juzza

Name: Eriu, Reformation
Author: DrPraetorious

Name: Machaka, Golden Kingdom
Author: DrPraetorious

Name: Catharcia, Forges of Molech
Author: DrPraetorious

Name: Hesalt, Illusions of Power
Author: quantum_mechani

Name: Pythium, Wild Magic
Author: odd_enuf

Name: The Hoburg Kingdom, Crossbows and Butter
Author: Normalphil

Name: LA Necropolis, City of the Everdying
Author: Zepath

Name: Teutanion, Age of Honor
Author: Zepath

Name: Kharamdzu, Hoist the Black Flag
Author: Zepath.

Name: Sanguinia, Vampire Counts
Author: Zepath

Name: Sylvania, The Last New Dawn
Author:Zepath

Name: Vaettihiem, Exiled Tribes
Author: Sombre

Name: New Ulm, Iron Faith Reborn
Author: Sombre

Name: New Jomon, Broken Swords
Author: Sombre

Name: New Crobuzon, Expansionist Government
Author: Amos

Name: Trade Confederation, New Dawn
Author: Amos

Name: Blood Elves, Ultimate Corruption
Author: Amos

Name: Fallen Nation, Stigian Corruption
Author: Amos

Name: Theran Empire, Reign of the Vampiri
Author: Amos

Name: Themiskyra, Amazon queens
Author: Frank Trollman

Name: Barbarian Hordes, Reunified Tribes
Author: Bandarlover

Name: Fthaqqua, Cult of Fthaqqua
Author: Honeybadger




And these two:

Name: Mytheology
Type: Pretenders and spells
Author: Psientist

Name: Worthy Heroes
Type: National Heroes
Author: Turin / quantum_mechani







http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html
17th nov
* Bug preventing more than a hundred sprites or so in mods has been squashed.


Does it mean bug is caused by a single mod with too many sprites ?

[sector24]

You should have just listed which mods you weren't running. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Semigall]

sector24 said:
You should have just listed which mods you weren't running. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif


I didn't run mods that change game core balance, as i usually don't use such mods.

But i did used every mod that adds new stuff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Shovah32]

I'm pretty sure its the total number of mod sprites, not sprites in a single mod.
Also alot of those nations probably have the same nation numbers, which could cause problems.

[Semigall]

Shovah32 said:
Also alot of those nations probably have the same nation numbers, which could cause problems.


So it means i need to open each .dm with notepad and change tos numbers, right ?

*edit*
Ok, i dunno for what exactly to look for in the .dm files and they seem to differ too much from each other, so i'll better not mess with them.

[Endoperez]

The thing to change would be

#selectnation 72

to anything between that and

#selectnation 99.


Each nation slot can only be used by one nation at a time. You might have to make it so only nation mods of one era are selected at a time. It takes a bit of work to change it between games, but that'd probaby keep you from going over the sprite limit, and I think there are now enough nation numbers to have all of a era enabled at once.

Can a shortcut enable mods for the preferences screen?I know they can be enabled for the purpose of creating a new game, but what about just enabling them?

[Ballbarian]

Wasn't Dr P. working on a script to combine nation mods?

[llamabeast]

Oh my goodness, I hadn't even realised there were so many mods!

Anyway, to fix your bug, I suggest disabling some mods.

More specifically, every time you start a game I would just enable the particular mods you want to play with. For example you might decide you want to play an MA game as Skaven, and play against the Tomb Kings, Arga Dis, Ermor and Arcoscephale. In that case just enable Skaven, Tomb Kings and Arga Dis before you start the game. Once you have started the game you are free to select different mods from the "mod preferences" menu for future games. When you continue a saved game it automatically reloads the correct mods for that game.

As for nation number conflicts - certain mod nations will conflict with certain others, but I wouldn't worry about that until you actually hit a problem. Often you can get lucky and not have any problems.

[Semigall]

You might have to make it so only nation mods of one era are selected at a time.


Tried enabling EA only, then ME only, then LE only nations, but still no use, the same CTD even when i enable additional nations for one era only http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[otthegreat]

I don't want to distract from Semigall's question but I also have a problem with mod nations. I keep getting a "no holiness" error message. Any help is appreciated.

[Saulot]

I'm almost afraid to ask (after the last response), but with which mods otthegreat?

[llamabeast]

That happens when you get a priest who isn't sacred.

[otthegreat]

Saulot: Don't worry only a couple: Tomb Kings, Ogre Kingdoms, Imperium Angelicus

llamabeast: OK, how do I fix it?

[llamabeast]

I hereby blame Imperium Angelicus. I've not even heard of it, where is it? It should be quite easy to fix. Find all the priests, and check they all have #holy.

[otthegreat]

Thank you llamabeast. I got Imperium Angelicus from the Mod forum. It was a quick fix (only one priest)

[llamabeast]

Oh yep, sorry, don't know how I missed that. Glad you got it fixed.