Cyprus, Slovakia and Chechen OOB

[KraMax]

Cyprus.

units 330 and 331 - Mi-26 - an erroneous photo from Mi-6.


Slovakia

unit 216 - UAZ 66 - a wrong name and a photo - correct GAZ-66

The Chechen Republic

unit 081 - GAZ-3937 - it cannot be at them.
unit 130 - UAZ 66 - a wrong name - GAZ-66
unit 155 - 82mm Vasilek is not AT-gun, it is a mortar.
unit 212 - BMP-2K is commander BMP. It should not be in OOB.
units 213-214 - BMP-3 - very strongly I doubt that these BMP can be on arms in this army.

[Marek_Tucan]

Vasilek as "AT-Gun" represents the weapon in direct-fire mode.

[KraMax]

Vasilek - can shoot direct-fire, but it does not become from it AT-gun.

[Marek_Tucan]

But AT Gun class is one of classes that allows direct fire only, so if you want to simulate Vasilek in DF and don't want the AI to use it in indirect mode, why not use this class? Mind you the unit classes are tool to get to the goal, not the goal itself, when I was modding WW2 Czechoslovakia OOB I used various obscure armor classes like "Super heavy tank" for parts of the bunkers. The same goes here with Vasilek/"AT-Gun".

[DRG]

Cyprus photo error corrected

Gaz / Uaz problem already reported and corrected weeks ago


RE: The Chechen Republic

Some of the equipment in the Chechen OOB represents captured equipment and much of what was selected is a guess as there is little detail available or it was chosen to fill some gap in the equipment roster.

Although I'm sure the entire subject could be debated to death many of these are decision the original OOB designer made based on scant information and 5 years later it's easy to second guess someone who isn't around any longer.

However

KraMax said:

unit 081 - GAZ-3937 - it cannot be at them.




Why ? The Russian Army didn't use this vehicle in Chechnya? Got any proof ?


KraMax said:
unit 155 - 82mm Vasilek is not AT-gun, it is a mortar.




"DF" indicates this is a weapon modeled ONLY to be used as DF. That's why "DF" was included in the name.( makes sense....yes? ) WHY this was done IDK. Perhaps some report indicated the Chechens were only using the weapon in this way ? It was a deliberate decision to add "DF" but I do not recall the exact reason years after the fact but their use as DF or IDF units is under review. There are / were quite a number of "82mm DF Vasilek" in various OOB's


KraMax said:
units 213-214 - BMP-3 - very strongly I doubt that these BMP can be on arms in this army.




As I said, there are a number of units and weapons included in this OOB to represent captured equipment. Do you have any proof BMP-3's were never sent to Chechnya and none were ever captured ? Proof is what I need to remove it. "strongly I doubt " is just an opinion and it would appear the original OOB designer had a different opinion.

Don

[KraMax]

I do not have exact proofs.
You think that the Chechen insurgents - could grasp this technics.
But as far as I know the Chechen insurgents after 1996-1997 never used the heavy armour technics, BMP, tanks, etc.
BMP-2K - It can not be used in any OOB is commander BMP.

[PN79]

Hallo
Slovakian S-300PMU (SA-10 Grumble) - unit 121 should have start date in 1993 (not 2005) because it was inherited from Czechoslovakia (the only SAM battalion with this system which Czechoslovakia had).