Fracture running

[Tyrant]

Beset by the Madness of the Dreamlands on one side and the Living Dead on the other the many nations of the world formed a Great Alliance to survive. After years of brutal war the Great Alliance did triumph and seal shut both the Void Gate and the Gates of Death.

With madness banished and the dead at rest a new spirit of tolerance and reason suffused the land. United by their common struggle and weary of war, the peoples of the world sought to cherish what bound them together and negotiate their differences in a spirit of peace. The beliefs of all peoples were respected and freedom of conscience was accepted across the land. The men of Chelms studied the texts of old Arcoscephale and lead a renewal of thought and learning. The merchants of Marignon built great ships to establish trade across the seas that knew peace for the first time in Ages. Many peoples opened their lands to refugees from the vanished realm of Atlantis, and even in the wilds of Pangaea progress came with the long peace. But even in the light of this Golden Age there were low whispers in the shadows and the drip of Blood on eldrich alters.

Two centuries of peace did not dim the memories of the glory of Atlantis and while others studied books and built palaces the Atlanteans pursued plans of their own in the ice floes of the north and the Ziggurats of Mictlan. They found what they were looking for buried in ice and then they stuck- the Sky Priests were slaughtered and the old ways reborn in Mictlan. Where once they had been grateful refugees the Atlantians now ruled as haughty lords, while elsewhere they established a new city dedicated to the Cult of Bone.

The Sibyls of Arcoscephale were first to see the signs, but soon every mage learned the truth as dwindling forces of magic surged anew. The Wheel had turned and the dark whispers became a public roar- "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!" The Dominion Wars had begun again.

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The late age is not played much, and i think it's because people are intimidated by Dreamlands and Ashen Empire and/or don't like the low sites. At least that's why I favor the other eras. But I hate to see all those neato nation going unplayed, so here's a chance to play without the killer free spawn powers and with plenty of gems.

Settings:

Late Era, no Ermor, no R'lyeh

Sites: 45

Renaming : On

HoF: 15

Mods: Worthy Heroes

Map:

Schedule: 24hr QH for the first 20 turns, 48 hr after that

Victory Conditions: 25 of 55 VPs {20x 1VP, 10x2VP, 5x 3VP)


This will be a Llamaserver game, which means automated PBEM.
I will post the Llamaserver procedures after sign up for those who need them.
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C'tis - Tyrant
Caelum - Karlem
Mictlan - Nihil
Abyssia - KIM
Marignon - calmon
Patala - cupido2
Atlantis-Jazzepi
Pangaea - kasnavada
Ulm - zenphos
Pythium - Cor2
Argatha - DryaUnda
Man - tg122
Utgard - Misaarenso
Bogarus - Xox
Jomon- fungalreason
Tien Chi- Cicadian

[Xox]

Bogarus!!

[AreaOfEffect]

Utgard.

[tg122]

Man

[AlgaeNymph]

I'll play as Agartha. My preferred victory condition is for total VPs with lots of VP provinces.

[Cor2]

I would like pythdom please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Cor2]

condition votes:
1) lots of vps 2)no bonus 3)no mod nations

[zenphos]

Ulm would be my preference.

victory conditions: VP provinces,

[kasnavada]

I would like to join as Pangaea. I don't care about victory condition, as long as they are explained properly when the game starts.

[Duncan_Frost]

I hope you're accepting newbies, as this would be my first MP game.. You're probably going to have to guide me on how to play, step by step. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Anyway, i'll take T'ien Chi.

[zenphos]

If you want a tip from an ex-newbie, well I have played 2 MP games, expand fast. You don't have the time to stuff around at the start like you do verse the comp.
In my 1st game I thought I was doing ok when I had 3 provinces then looked around and found the experienced players had 6 or 7. It was very disconcerting.

[cupido2]

Patala please.
a) lots b) with bonus c) no mod nations

[Real_friend]

I will play. Midgard please.

[llamabeast]

Ulm Reborn and Vaettiheim are both good LA mod nations, if people are interested.

[calmon]

I would like to join. Marignon please.

[KIM]

OK, I´ll take Abyssia

[Fal]

I would like to play C'tis please

Sorry didn't see C'tis was taken, I'm happy to play whatever other people don't choose http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Nihil]

I would like to sign up as Mictlan

a) Yes to victory conditions, I dont care which as long as they are clearly explained as someone said before.
b) No to this one.
c) No mods either.

[Nihil]

Post deleted by Nihil

[Karlem]

I'm also in. Caelum for me.

a.- Yes, VP is ok
b.- No
c.- No

[Tyrant]

Two slots left, Jomon and mighty Atlantis, Fal will be taking one of them.

Looks like lots of VPs will be the victory conditions. I'll get the map together and iron out the details with Llama this weekend and we can get going early next week.

[fungalreason]

I'll take Jomon if Fal doesn't want it.

[Fal]

sure I don't mind, I will be Atlantis then.

[Duncan_Frost]

Aaah, sorry guys, it looks like i'll have to drop out. Sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Tyrant]

I'm working on the map today, hopefully we can be ready to upload pretenders tomorrow or Tuesday.

We will be using worthy heroes 1.8, so make sure you have that installed.

[Karlem]

Is it possible to use RANDOM so that every player has at least ,let's say, 4 neighbour land provinces and that there are 4/5 provinces between capitols? I think that makes the game more interesting and avoids situation where turn 0 luck is the most important thing.

What do you think?

[Tyrant]

This game will be called "Fracture"

@Karlem - i am not familiar with that util, but i did edit the map to no start provinces with less than 5 neighbors. It's possible that i missed some 'cause there's no graphical display for no-start, but i tried three times with all 17 nations and nothing came up. It's also a big map, so even if you are close to someone else's capitol there should be room on another side.

The victory conditions will be 20 one VP, 10 two VP and 5 three VP for a total of 55 with 25 the victory threshold. If anyone has a problem with this speak up now or never.

Three things you need to know about VPs-

1) They spread dominion for their owner.

2) The big map and lots of VP provinces will make it more difficult for a player to get a cheap win by pouncing on a bunch they can't hold with TP etc, but not impossible. In fact it's pretty likely that someone will go for it once they are in spitting distance. So, Beware the Pounce - fortify your VPs!

3) The distribution of the VP provinces is good and gosh darn random, so it's possible that you will end up in a situation where you win all your wars and generally do well but have a hard time winning because all the VPs are far away. That's just the way it is. To me the randomness is part of the charm, but sometimes it works out badly for some players.

The forum outage this weekend has slowed things down a bit, but we are ready to go once Llama sets it up.

[Tyrant]

Here's a the link to Llama's FAQ on how to join a game, but wait till he's ready.


http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showthreaded.php?Number=531117

[zenphos]

The game seems to be ready to accept pretenders.

[Karlem]

Sorry, but, where is the map? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Tyrant]

The map is now attached to the first post and Llmaserver is now accepting pretender. Also, Llama is going on a trip this Friday, so upload ASAP.

[Cor2]

Pretender sent. I had a really hard time choosing.

[kasnavada]

Pretender sent. Fear the all-mighty Mizu !

[tg122]

Pretender sent

[fungalreason]

pretender sent

[Karlem]

Someone has posted a pretender for a nation called Chelms. What is that? Did we finally allow modded nations?

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Fracture

[Nihil]

This might be a stupid question but this is the first time I play under victory conditions so... how can I tell which provinces give out VP and how many do they offer?

[KIM]

pretender sent

[AreaOfEffect]

Chelms is the late age kingdom of Man. The server names it that for some reason and I'm not sure why. Don't fret, its not a mod.

[llamabeast]

Yeah, it's because the files are called late_chelms.2h/late_chelms.trn, so I figured Chelms was the proper name for the nation.

[Karlem]

A day is good if you learn something new http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

Thanks for the info!

[Tyrant]

Nihil said:
This might be a stupid question but this is the first time I play under victory conditions so... how can I tell which provinces give out VP and how many do they offer?



They show up on the map as crowns- one, two or three depending on what they are worth, and you need 25 to win.

[Tyrant]

Looks like we are waiting on calmon and Xox (Marignon and Bogorus).

[calmon]

Marignon pretender is up.

[Karlem]

Let's see if Bogarus is fast and Llamabeast can setup the game before his trip. Cross fingers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Xox]

I will send mine within 12 hours Sorry for the delay, but the The instructions on the directory to find the pretender file are not correct for my system for some reason. And people wonder why i dislike pbm games.

[fungalreason]

If you're using vista check in:

~\users\<user name>\appData\local\virtualStore\program files\dominions3\savedgames\newlords\

for the pretender file.

[Xox]

Bogarus pretender in.

finally found it, hidden folder for some reason and nto in DOminions3 folder.

[Cor2]

So can we start now?

[Tyrant]

I PMed Llama this A.M. and asked him to start at the last possible moment, with or without Bogarus, but i have not heard back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif, so I don't know. He may have left already.

[Cor2]

Okay http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Karlem]

I've received my turn so I suppose the game has just begun XD.

I like the VPs, that's lots of them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[AlgaeNymph]

Tyrant said:
The map is now attached to the first post.

Where's the map .tga?

[llamabeast]

In the map .rar. A .rar is like a .zip. If you can't open it you're presumably running Windows, and should download WinRAR.

[AlgaeNymph]

I can open it, but I only got the .map file.

[llamabeast]

It's definitely in there, I just checked. It's an rgb rather than a tga though.

[AlgaeNymph]

Ah, found it.

[Cor2]

Very nice! I got the turn. Not quite sure why the email says "turn resent" oh well.

[Tyrant]

All the turns will say "resent" on the first turn 'cause of a quirk in the way Llama had to start the game, nothing to worry about.

If anyone has questions on the Llamaserver procedure hit the FAQ on his sig from 3 posts up.

[AreaOfEffect]

From what I gather, we are not on a 24 hour turn cycle like the original post says we should be. Instead its currently set to 48 hours.

[Tyrant]

Llama set it up on his way out the door for a holiday, i will change it to 24hr next turn, thanks for pointing that out.

[calmon]

AreaOfEffect said:
From what I gather, we are not on a 24 hour turn cycle like the original post says we should be. Instead its currently set to 48 hours.



It is set to 24 hour turn cycle. Its only more time for initial turn.Most games need some time between uploading pretender and starting the game.

[Cor2]

Evrybody happy with thier starting location? I am.

[Fal]

Cor2 said:
Evrybody happy with thier starting location? I am.



Oh really? maybe you should tell me where you are...

[Cor2]

My massive unbeatable army is one province away from you capitol, wherever that may be. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[calmon]

The VPs needed to win are wrong configured!

We have to stop this game and restart it after llama is back.

[zenphos]

Hmmmmm, would I be right in thinking you need 4 vp's to win?

[Karlem]

Are you sure of that? It will be quite funny to have a 6-7 turn game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[zenphos]

Ask Calmon, but from what I can tell it looks like it.

I could be wrong but it does not look like very many. Maybe 5?

6 or 7? If it is only 4 vp's to win we will be lucky to make 5 turns.

[cupido2]

Haha, that would be really a blitz-game, but yeah, restart it.

[Cor2]

noooooo!!!!!!!!!! Welll okay then.

since we are restarting any chance of a wrap around map?

[kasnavada]

Hum, arg !

[Tyrant]

Ah crudpuppies, yeah, it looks like it's default, which is 4.

[Cor2]

wrap around? no? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[calmon]

Can you stop the game manually? I'm unaware with the admin options on llama server but at least you should be able to stop the automatic hosting interval and put it on quickhost.

Atm the game hosts all 24 hours and i really don't like remember/missing turns all the time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Fal]

I second Wrap around idea..

ps plz place the 'mighty' Atlantis somewhere near the sea...*%!"$£@

[Nihil]

I vote against wrap arround :-)

[AreaOfEffect]

Since we are restarting, I'd like to opt out of the game. Sorry guys but life is busy sometimes.

Utgard signing out.

[AlgaeNymph]

Another game that's restarting? Okay, then.

[zenphos]

Well we can't actually play again until the 27th of April.

[Nihil]

If we are restarting I would also like to ask to take stats out, I mean, you get from the a lot of info that you should gather by other means like scouting.

[Tyrant]

Stats really need to be on for a VP game.

I could not find a low water wrap map that was large enough. I'll do some more looking since we have time before Llama's return.

[kasnavada]

Try to get a new host is possible ? Ich hosts 2 of the game I'm currently playing and might be interested in hosting this one too. I'm pretty much sure that most of us will have forgotten about that game if it starts late... (no harm meant, but 2 weeks is a long time).

[Tyrant]

Llama has returned, so we should be able to restart soon. Please post if you want to drop out.

[llamabeast]

Sorry about the VP cockup guys. I made a similar mistake with Strolling, also just before I left, and they finished that one in 16 turns. Hmm, seems I was off-form.

Anyway, I can restart right away if you like, but should I wait to check everyone's still playing?

[kasnavada]

I'm still playing, and here.

[llamabeast]

Would you mind PMing me when you're ready for the restart Tyrant?

[Tyrant]

Will do Llama, i think we should give it a day for people to check back in.

[Fal]

Sorry guys I'm going to have to bail this time, I've completely forgotten this game and regrettably won't have time to play another PBEM game...

I've PMed llamabeast about it.

Sorry again

Fal

[Tyrant]

np Fal, thanks for letting us know.

[Cor2]

I am still in, What are we going to do with the empty slots?

[Nihil]

I am in as well.

[Xox]

still in also

[zenphos]

Count me in. Still as Ulm.

[KIM]

Ok,Abissya is in

[calmon]

Still in.

[Migaaresno]

Hello, I would like to join. I believe areaofeffect is out. So i take its place.

Utgard, land of Giants and humies - Migaaresno.

[fungalreason]

I'm still in

[AlgaeNymph]

I'm in, ready, and waiting.

[Tyrant]

Just to make sure that we don't start with ghost players, i'm going to ask everyone who's still in to resend their pretenders. We will restart on Thursday 5/1.

[Nihil]

Does that mean that we will be able to send our pretenders on thursday? or is it the day when the game will restart.

In llamaserver the game is still in the currently running group so I suppose we should not send our pretenders yet, shoud we?

[Cicadian]

I would like to join as Tien Chi if possible.

[llamabeast]

Okay, Strolling is now ready to accept pretenders again.

[Jazzepi]

Do you guys still have room? Someone was talking about empty slots earlier on.

Jazzepi

[Tyrant]

Yea we do.

I believe that the list in the first post is accurate, so Atlantis is open for sure and anything else thats not listed is up for grabs.

[Cor2]

So the game is called "strolling" now?

[Jazzepi]

I'll take LA Atlantis.

Jazzepi

[kasnavada]

Hum yeah, where do we sent the pretender this time ? With fracture as the name or strolling ?

[Migaaresno]

Strolling

[Jazzepi]

I'm pretty sure Strolling is not the correct game instance on Llamaserver. I tried to submit my pretender there, and it rejected my LA Atlantis pretender as the wrong age.

Jazzepi

[Cicadian]

Check the Strolling thread. Both Strolling and Fracture are being restarted, however only Strolling is currently accepting pretenders. Iassume llamabeast will open up Fracture for pretenders as soon as he is able.

[llamabeast]

What? Oh my goodness, I've got so confused. Right, this game is meant to be called Fracture. The trouble is, the people who sent their pretenders in may actually have wanted to send them to Strolling, rather than Fracture.

I will create a new Fracture game, and people should send their pretenders in afresh. Sorry for the confusion.

[llamabeast]

Okay, Fracture is now accepting pretenders. Sorry about that again. We will get this game started soon!

[Cor2]

Its okay Llama, Much apreciation for all your hard work! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Karlem]

I see 15 pretender uploaded, aren't we 15 people? So everything is ready, isn't it?

[kasnavada]

Hum I didn't resend it yet, now it's done.

[llamabeast]

Well, due to technical problems I actually can't load Dominions at home now (Hardy Heron seems to have frazzled my video card driver and it's being awkward), and the unusual victory point conditions make this game impossible to start via the command line as I would normally do. So I will try to start the game up tomorrow while I'm in the office (naughtily I have Dom3 installed on my work computer).

[llamabeast]

Right! Started! Twice, in fact!

The first time Pangaea wasn't included (it seems somehow kasnavada's pretender arrived after I copied the pretenders across from the server last night), but then I luckily noticed the mistake and restarted. So everyone: use the second file you received.

By the way the first turn appears to have been "resent" because it's not possible to start a game in the normal way with complex victory conditions. So I started it via the GUI, copied the files back to the server and asked it to resend all the files.

Okay, I hope everything is good this time. Sorry for the long wait while I was away.

By the way Tyrant, rather than me, will be the man to ask for things like delays and so on while the game is running.

Have fun,

llamabeast

[llamabeast]

Okay, this is why I should never, ever do server stuff when I'm knackered (I've been teaching all day, and am completely past it, and can't go home till I've sorted this because my computer at home can't open dominions).

The server's just sent out a turn 2 because I copied a number to the wrong place. Just ignore it and play turn 1 - I will roll the server back.

Hopefully all will be smooth from here! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

[Karlem]

Both turn 1 are equal?

[llamabeast]

Nope, use the second "turn 1".

[llamabeast]

By the way if you use the wrong one the llamaserver will reject your turn, so at least the potential for confusion is limited.

[kasnavada]

Yeah, it restarted !

[cupido2]

Oh my god. I staled the first turn. Lucky starting.

[zenphos]

I staled the first turn as well. I am hoping that everyone did as I received turn 1 and 2 at the same time.

Hmmmm, although I just sent turn 1 in and the Llamaserver said it was fine. So I am a little confused. Should I send turn 2 in or not I wonder.

[Cor2]

I staled as well, I think everyone did.

[Cor2]

Oh, If you send in turn two the server rejects it, so I guess we are on turn one.

[Jazzepi]

We are on turn one. If the server rejects your 2H file, request the turn be resent.

Jazzepi

[Xox]

how do you do that? cause it did reject my turn

[calmon]

Xox, you use the wrong turn!

You got 3 turns. The one with the 2nd turns is wrong! Take the turn with turn 1 which was sent second.

Or just go to http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Fracture and use "Request turn resend". (i hope this work corectly after this turn chaos)

[Nihil]

Just one questions, I think I read provinces with crowns also spread dominion, is this also so for Mictlan?

[Cor2]

Nihil,

I dont think they spread dominion. They are victory point provinces.

[Nihil]

Tyrant said:
Three things you need to know about VPs-

1) They spread dominion for their owner.
2) ...



Tyrant said they do spread dominions, but I would like to know if this works for Mictlan the same way.

[Cor2]

Neat, I never knew that.

[lch]

AFAIK they don't spread your dominion, but they increase your god's dominion score by one. Which helps in spreading it.

[Karlem]

They spread dominion with power=5. Click on a temple and you'll see them there, it works for Mictlan too.

[Tyrant]

I don't have my manual at hand, but i'm pretty sure they spread dominion.

Looks like we ended up with graphs off, which is a bit dodgy in a VP game, but we are going to have to live with it, i'm not up for another restart.

[Karlem]

I am interested in trading for 5 nature gems. I have air, death or water gems to trade in a 1on1 basis. Anyone interested please tell me so.

Caelum

[cupido2]

Did you know it's "day of the ape"? Have you helped an ape today? No? Then help the cute apes of Patala are overrun by the hag of Utgard!

[Cor2]

Yeah, I noticed. Maybe we will send down our hydra milita to have a nice talk with them. Or Maybe not.

[cupido2]

Monkey PD rules! The army of giants was crushed by the mighy Markatas and some other helpful animals. Now witness the downfall of the Utgard ice hag! Yuk yuk yuk!

[calmon]

Tyrant can you please update the first post:

Atlantis is missed, played by Jazzepi.

I'm not sure the rest is correct after our restart. Please report if your name isn't in the list. It makes doplomacy easier. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Cicadian]

I am Tien Chi http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[calmon]

and Midgard isn't in the game!

[Tyrant]

Done.

[kasnavada]

I'm dead, setting myself to AI.

[Zenzei]

Hello everyone, I'll be subbing for Caelum in this game for about two weeks and in fact I've already played three turns.

While Karlem filled me up pretty well regarding the status quo, I encourage you to send me a PM if there's some business, diplomatic/trade/whatever, needing to be sorted out between your nation and Caelum.

[Migaaresno]

What have you done to the humies and demons?! What have you done?! We demand a explaination.

-The counsel of Giants.

[cupido2]

*skreech* good bye cruel world

[Tyrant]

A very impressive pounce, well done calmon! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

As for the rest of you bums,is it bad form to quote yourself?


2) The big map and lots of VP provinces will make it more difficult for a player to get a cheap win by pouncing on a bunch they can't hold with TP etc, but not impossible. In fact it's pretty likely that someone will go for it once they are in spitting distance. So, Beware the Pounce - fortify your VPs!



Actually, i'm as guilty as everyone else- i left a 2 pointer undefended 'cause i thought it was Mictlans, dangnabit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

I count 12 in Marignon proper and 15 by TP which is 2 extra just to be on the safe side. I saw at least 2 others that were clear too, plus one of my own that had a fort building. Was that all in one turn?

Kind of a weird short game, but fun for me nonetheless. Thanks to Zenzei for subbing and, of course LLama for hosting!

[Cor2]

Saved by the new god, I was about to get ganked by several nations... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Zenzei]

Good game everyone and congrats to Calmon for the win! I certainly knew Marignon would try this but I didn't expect it to happen so soon and thus there were too many unforted VPs inside Caelum borders. Too bad I now didn't get to use my newly summonend earth/air elemental royalty, fog warriors provided entertainment many a time though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[KIM]

Congrats to Calmon

[calmon]

Thanks guys! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I was happy to take the required VPs in the last turn. Normally i don't like this sort of win condition because i don't like the thrill that anyone else do what i did http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif. It always depends people build up fortresses or not.

3 Turns ago i decided to try a VP win and used all my gems for some fighting equipment and mass teleports. I alchimist a lot and it was a little risky because i totally gave up my pre-prior strategy to produce a lot of blood stones.

Well i ended up with 29 VPs 14 in my own territory, 4 by attacking with flying demons/fallen angels and 11 via mage/demon teleport. So it worked for me!

Btw who dispelled my Forge of the Ancients? I didn't get a message that it was dispelled so i wonder.