Resistance to elements protects from fatigue?

[Argitoth]

Does grip of winter and heat from hell still fatigue units with 100% cold and fire protection? Does stuff like breath of winter/heat auras still fatigue units who are not naturally protected from heat and cold, but have 100% resistance?

[Humakty]

I guess it does, my abysians don't kill themselves. I've never seen my thugs with rime hauberk and 100 % cold res kill themselves either.

[Edi]

No, they do not affect units with the elemental resistances, no matter how hat resistance has been acquired. The heat and chill auras would be mighty goddamn useless otherwise.

[Renojustin]

What about 50% protection?

[Edi]

Lessens the fatigue you take, but you still get it. Which is why Abysian units die when they get Protection, Mass Protection or Wooden Warriors cast on them.

[Argitoth]

So tell me this. If cold spells never fatigue you if you have 100% resistance, why do you get encumbrance penalties in cold provinces? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[vfb]

You don't, unless you're cold-blooded. Resistance does not help cold-blooded units avoid cold-blooded encumbrance penalties due to cold scales.

Cold resistance above 0% does help all units avoid normal (non-cold-blooded) encumbrance penalties for cold scales.

[Sombre]

It's a bit odd in a way that some nations like heat dominion, yet they don't have racial fire res, hence they get encumbered (I believe). On the other hand they usually have lighter armour, so they don't suffer the enc as much. Doesn't help with mages though.

[Endoperez]

Doesn't it take Heat 3 before the encumberance comes in, and the highest heat pref non-abysian nation has is Heat 2 IIRC.

They're still better off than Agartha, who are cold-blooded but don't prefer heat.

[Argitoth]

Sombre said:
It's a bit odd in a way that some nations like heat dominion, yet they don't have racial fire res, hence they get encumbered (I believe). On the other hand they usually have lighter armour, so they don't suffer the enc as much. Doesn't help with mages though.



Do Africans have fire resistance IRL? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Renojustin]

Argitoth said:

Sombre said:
It's a bit odd in a way that some nations like heat dominion, yet they don't have racial fire res, hence they get encumbered (I believe). On the other hand they usually have lighter armour, so they don't suffer the enc as much. Doesn't help with mages though.



Do Africans have fire resistance IRL? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



Kind of an ignorant and prejudicial thing to say.

[sum1lost]

Renojustin said:

Argitoth said:

Sombre said:
It's a bit odd in a way that some nations like heat dominion, yet they don't have racial fire res, hence they get encumbered (I believe). On the other hand they usually have lighter armour, so they don't suffer the enc as much. Doesn't help with mages though.



Do Africans have fire resistance IRL? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



Kind of an ignorant and prejudicial thing to say.


Not really either- simply insensitive.

[Sombre]

There's no fatigue from heat unless it's level 3? I didn't know that.

[Aezeal]

Renjousting and sum1lost are both whining is just a good comparison to the real world with people that live in a hot climate, it's certainly not prejudicial (heck Africa IS in a hotter climate than europe dammit) not insensitive either.

[Sombre]

It could be read as insensitive in the same sense that asking "Do Kurds have poison resistance IRL?" could be.

In the context of this thread I know he didn't mean anything like that, obviously. But it was an unfortunate choice of words given the troubles in Africa.

[Tuidjy]

I took it as a joke and an argument against giving fire resistance to Machaka
and similar nations, in the vein of:

"Everyone knows that Africans do not have a resistance to fire, despite being
used to the heat, and able to farm/hunt/thrive in a hot climate."

I know that many people do not accept arguments based on Real Life, but I do.
I do not claim to know how magic works, but I prefer it when common sense agrees
with matters pertaining to weapons, armour, fatigue, supplies, and everything
that does exist in real life.

[fictionfan]

Not really he is African I know him.

[Argitoth]

I am half Trinidadian.

[sum1lost]

Argitoth said:
I am half Trinidadian.


Isn't that a country off the coast of south america? Is the other half african, then, or what? I'm confused now.

[Argitoth]

Trinidadians are of African descent.

My other half is English/German. My two halves are constantly in conflict.

Why are we even discussing this!!??

[MaxWilson]

Sombre,

Are there "troubles in Africa" right now that are heat-related? Like, people napalming each other? In that context I can see it as unintentionally insensitive. If it's just about Africans living in hot climates I don't see it as insensitive, and it's a valid point. Preference for hot weather != heat resistance.

-Max

[Sombre]

I'm no expert on africa, I just catch random tidbits from the newspapers, but not so long ago I remember reports of people being burned alive.

That's come up a few times along with machete dismemberment and the other usual nastiness.

[kasnavada]

I'm no expert on america, I just catch random tidbits from the newspapers, but not so long ago I remember reports of people being killing themselves with guns in the streets.

That's come up a few times along with random killing on campus and the other usual nastiness.



http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Replace with any country and you can make it look like it's a bad place to live in. The largest part of Africa, America, Asia or Europe is kept completely safe.

Sadly, it takes only a few articles and a broad generalisation to make any country look like it's hell. Especially if you listen to the usual TV and radio that always want to make people believe that their country is the best place in the world.

Anyway, I think that this kind of discussion has nothing to do with Dominions and should be stopped...

Edit : Sorry to quote (and modify) you Sombre, this comment isn't directed at you. I just feel like politics shouldn't be on a game forum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

[MaxWilson]

No, it's not Sombre's fault, I asked. Sorry for bringing it up.

-Max