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Endoperez
May 11th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Is Lead Shield useful on units that have higher than 0 encumberance? It's parry value seems quite low when compared to other Earth-based shields of same or lower level.

Lead Shield: prot 22, parry 6, enc 3

Kite Shield: Prot 18, parry 6, enc 2
Black Steel Kite: prot 28, parry 8, enc 2
Black Steel Tower: prot 25, parry 9, enc 2
Shield of Valor: prot 20, parry 8, enc 1

Is it useful as-is? Does Lead Shield need a boost? I'd give it at least parry 7, to give it the same final defense adjustment as nonmagical Kite Shields.

lch
May 11th, 2008, 03:15 PM
It raises MR, doesn't it? Or do I remember wrong?

Meglobob
May 11th, 2008, 03:18 PM
I suppose the parry value is lower due to it being considerably heavier to lift/move around.

The only reason I ever equip a lead shield is purely for the +4 to MR. Its the enc thats the killer thou, but any bonus would be good and 7 sounds reasonable.

In MP they are very unpopular, meaning errr, I have never seen one equipped by another player, other than me that is.

Only nations with no S mages being targeted by MR resisted spells need use them, MA Argatha for example to protect its thugs.

ano
May 11th, 2008, 03:24 PM
I saw it the previous turn on a bog mummy pretender with total resistance of 36. And that was clever enough in that situation I must say.

Endoperez
May 11th, 2008, 03:25 PM
lch said:
It raises MR, doesn't it? Or do I remember wrong?



Yes, it does, but Lucky Coin and Charcoal Shield and the like have at least as powerful abilities, but higher final parry values AND lower encumberance.

ano
May 11th, 2008, 03:27 PM
It depends on situation. There're not too many common items that raise MR and in some cases this may be crucial.
Charcoal shield is much harder to forge, btw.

Herode
May 11th, 2008, 03:34 PM
The Lucky Coin too. The Lead Shield is available soon in the game and is cheap.

ano
May 11th, 2008, 03:39 PM
I really don't think that lead shield may be useful for anything but MR-heavy SC's and MR is a mid-late game issue usually. So normally you won't make a Lead shield early in the game and thus in doesn't matter whether it is Const2, 4 or even 6. I think that it would be fine if it had better stats and was Const4 or 6.

Jazzepi
May 11th, 2008, 05:04 PM
I put a lead shield and a awe shield on an air queen to combine with another air queen setup to do shimmering fields. It was quite nice against R'yleh since I needed an *** ton of MR.

Jazzepi

Xietor
May 11th, 2008, 05:19 PM
I use lead shields on banelords when i am fighting races that have a lot of s mages.

kasnavada
May 11th, 2008, 05:20 PM
It gives MR, and is cheap. There is no other stats that matters. It's balanced as is.

Hoplosternum
May 11th, 2008, 06:04 PM
I think they are fine as they are. Can be very useful on Enc 0 Thugs and SCs.

MaxWilson
May 11th, 2008, 09:28 PM
Since Communion Slaves don't take fatigue from encumbrance, it may be useful on Enc 0 thugs using Linebacker communions.

-Max