New MA game (PBEM) -- Tigerstripes (in progress)

[anticipatient]

New MA game, settings & map totally negotiable (you all seem pretty easy-going), any experience level. Myself, I have played many hours of single player, but I know that's never quite like multi-player. So newbies are cool, but I have absolutely no problem with playing with very experienced players as well.

Feel free to nudge me however you deem necessary, since I haven't hosted/admin'd a game before.

Settings decided thus far:
Inde strength: 7
No score graphs (although I think they're fun:))

Player: nation roster: 10 players;
Anticipatient: Jotunheim;
DryaUnda: Ulm;
Secretperson: T'ien Ch'i;
veto: R'Lyeh;
don_Pablo: Eriu;
Staneth: Arcosephale;
alhorro: Mictian;
Executor: C'tis;
ThatGuyBob: Agartha;
Sleet: Machaka;
chrispedersen: Ashdod

[llamabeast]

If you would like to use my PBEM server you would be very welcome.

[AlgaeNymph]

I'd like to be in as Ulm, just to see what it's capable of.

[Amhazair]

Conventional wisdom is the organizer of the game gets first pick in race selection, anticipatient. Be quick and make use of the privilege before your favorite races are taken. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[secretperson]

i'd like to play as bandar log

[anticipatient]

Yes llama, I'd love to use your server (I think), thanks! Are MP games typically played PBEM? Please excuse my ignorance.

[veto]

I'd like to join as R'Lieh (or may play as Tien-Chi)

Map - any) as for me -no mods, no graphs, indy 7 and all other set to default is good enough)

[don_Pablo]

I'm in as Eriu.
As for map - Veto +1 =0)

[Staneth]

Total newbie here. I've been experimenting in SP but this will be my first try at MP. I'd like Arco.

No preferences right now as to settings.

[anticipatient]

To other newbies: make sure you experiment in single player using Indy strength 7. It's a little different than the default http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[don_Pablo]

don't worry
some of us always plays with indy7 in SP or hotseat MP http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[anticipatient]

Okay, I'm going to play Man, I suppose.

[anticipatient]

I don't understand this post, Pablo. "As for map, veto +1 = 0"

Clarification? Looks like veto (person) edited his post, so I don't know if I'm missing context.

[Lingchih]

anticipatient said:
Yes llama, I'd love to use your server (I think), thanks! Are MP games typically played PBEM? Please excuse my ignorance.



MP games are sometimes played via PBEM. They are also played via a network server. I prefer a network server (sorry llama), but PBEM games are also quite viable. Llamabeast's PBEM server is very nice.

[llamabeast]

Map thoughts: I have a modified, fairly balanced version of Parganos which is good for 8 players. Cradle of Dominion is good for maybe 12-16.

[alhorro]

In as Mictlan.

[don_Pablo]

anticipatient said:
I don't understand this post, Pablo. "As for map, veto +1 = 0"

Clarification? Looks like veto (person) edited his post, so I don't know if I'm missing context.



I mean I agree with Veto about game settings.

=0) is a smile

[veto]

As for map - I trust Llamabeast)))

[Executor]

I'm in as Pyhtium, if its free, if not then I'll take C'tis.

[llamabeast]

Well there are lots and lots of other choices (see the map list in the mods and maps subforum, and dom3maps.wikidot.com ), I just thought I would mention a couple that came to mind.

[anticipatient]

Lingchih, I played a couple games set up from irc.net #dominions -- is that where you go for matchmaking and whatnot, or do you know enough people who play that you don't have to?

I am up for an 8 player game of your modified Paraganos map. Should we play with CBM?

[llamabeast]

I think Lingchih just means network games organised here. Games here are either network or PBEM games. Both have advantages.

When you are ready to have people send pretenders in let me know what you want the game called, and I will set it up.

[anticipatient]

We'll close the rosters in 18 hours (9:45 PM GMT -08). We will pick a map suited to the number of players we have at that point.

[tgbob]

I'd like Agartha if there is still room.

[anticipatient]

yep, you can have agartha

[Sleet]

Heya, if a spot is still open I will play Machaka.
Thanks,
Sleet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[anticipatient]

sleet (steelsleet?) has machaka. im changing to jotunheim.

[tgbob]

Three more minutes till registration closes!

[anticipatient]

Okay, 10 players. Map preferences?

[veto]

may be random?)

[anticipatient]

I'm going to work on a random map. I like cradle of dominions a lot, but to be honest, I'm concerned that R'yleh will have a sizable advantage on that map. I am a new player, but it seems to be a very powerful nation, and to be the only unchallenged underwater nation at the same time, particularly on this map . . . I'd like to hear what more experienced players have to say.

Having said that, if nobody really cares, I really do like cradle of dominions, so we could just play that anyway. Life doesn't have to be fair, and neither do games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

You guys want to play with CBM?

[Sleet]

Random or Cradle is fine by me.

CBM is a good mod too so I am okay with that.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Executor]

Cradle is a good map and I'm fine with it, what is CBM?

[llamabeast]

I would also be inclined to be concerned about R'lyeh on Cradle. They would have a lot of space. Generally there should be slightly fewer water provinces per water race than there are land provinces per land race, since it's easier for water races to expand to land than vice versa.

[Sleet]

Executor said:
Cradle is a good map and I'm fine with it, what is CBM?



Conceptual Balance Mod

Details here:
CBM Mod (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=519284&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[veto]

As for me - without CBM)
But let's vote?
I'm against)

[anticipatient]

Alright, I'll sit out of the vote. I'm working on a random map, too, but I could play Oceania to balance out Cradle. Although that might just give R'yleh two capitals http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[anticipatient]

Please begin to upload your pretenders.

[Executor]

Sleet said:

Executor said:
Cradle is a good map and I'm fine with it, what is CBM?



Conceptual Balance Mod

Details here:
CBM Mod (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=519284&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif



Right, I have this mode, sorry just didn't realise what it was...

[don_Pablo]

So do we play with CBM or without it?
I prefer without..

[AlgaeNymph]

anticipatient said:
Please begin to upload your pretenders.

What's the game's name? Every pretender uploaded to Llamaserver needs to have the game's name in the subject.

[anticipatient]

Game name Tigerstripes

Do I need to get llama to create this for me? I apologize for my cumbersome lack of admin experience

[Executor]

I've created my pretender with CBM, so do I upload, or do I plan a new strategy if we aren't using CBM.
As for me, I would REALLY prefer we played with CBM.

[Executor]

I was wondering if somebody could advise me about a game I'm playing, If everybody just stops playing, and don't respond to PM's or anything, what do you do???

[veto]

I prefer (and no need to stress:) to play without it/ but can play any variant/
So - let the host say - CBM or not. and we will upload pretenders)

[veto]

to Executor
wait for some time) or change game)))
Good luck finding your missed opponents)))

[secretperson]

Do you think I can switch to T'ien Ch'i instead of Bandar Log?

[anticipatient]

Yes I'll switch you to T'ien Ch'i. I don't see any reason not to. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Let's go ahead and stay vanilla for this game (no cbm).

[anticipatient]

Game name is Tigerstripes, no CBM. Updated roster is in the first post.

Please upload your pretenders to llamasever.

[Sleet]

Pretender emailed.

Good game all! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[chrispedersen]

ashdod please - and pretender sent, if its not too late !

[llamabeast]

It's normal, chris, to ask to join a game and be accepted into it before sending in a pretender.

The decision as to whether the game is closed is of course completely up to anticipatient.

[Executor]

Too bad, i had it all planned out with CBM, now that it's out, I was wondering if just maybe I could change to C'tis, but It's no problem to stay Pythium If I can't.

[veto]

I'm in)
Good luck to all)))

[don_Pablo]

I'm in.
Have a good game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[anticipatient]

That's fine, chris http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif You are in as ashdod.

I believe the roster is up to date. Executor, I have changed you in the roster to C'tis.

I will upload my pretender and attempt to begin the game (with map Cradle of Dominions, since we have 11 -- should work) about 12 hours from the time of this post (8:00 PM @ GMT -08).

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Happy gaming everyone.

[Staneth]

My pretender's in. Good luck all.

[chrispedersen]

Mines in.. but I guess the start didn't go?

[anticipatient]

no, i have not started the game yet.

[anticipatient]

the game will be starting just as soon as i figure out how http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

edit: i think i just have to pm him and ask him to do it, which i have http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[anticipatient]

Okay, talked to llama. Should be starting up soon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[llamabeast]

Hello all,

I will start the game tonight, i.e. in about 12 hours.

[Electro808]

What is the advantage of using PBEM?, if you don't mind me asking here.

[chrispedersen]

llama hosts it = )

[llamabeast]

Hrmm, I just realised I actually don't know what map we're using. I get the impression perhaps Cradle, but it doesn't look like a final decision was reached. Could you let me know anticipatient? I should be able to start it during the day tomorrow no problem.

Off to bed now unfortunately. Sorry for the delay guys.

[anticipatient]

In the interest of getting the game started, let's just play cradle. I have heard no objection and no other ideas, really. So cradle of dominion would be good.

[Sleet]

Sounds good. Let's roll! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Executor]

AND WE HAVE STARTED!!!!!

[llamabeast]

Wow, that was quick posting!

Indeed, just started, I hope all is well. Let me know if there are any problems.

I found an old version of Cradle that someone made for the Chinchilla game, with hand-placed starting positions for 12 players. So I used that. One of the starting positions will be unoccupied, but they should be far more evenly spread than they would be if Dominions had placed them.

[secretperson]

Er... I just tried to play my turn but apparently I don't have a starting position or something. I don't see my home province.

[llamabeast]

Aaaaaargh. I was worried that might happen. Something wrong with the start positions then.

I will take a look and see why.

[llamabeast]

Right, I've restarted. Hopefully it will be better this time.

[secretperson]

looks good on my end now. Thanks llamabeast http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Executor]

I have a problem, I'm not on the map?!

[Executor]

Wait, I didn't see the game restarted maybe it's OK now, sorry!

[Executor]

All is well, good luck everybody!(not really)

[Executor]

I was wondering If someone could adive me with a game I'm playing, if two players just stop playing, don't respond to posts or PM's,
the turn was due a week ago, and the server is down,
then the game is sort of over or what???

[alhorro]

Hmm, llama, sorry but you should check the game once more http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

First time everything was ok, I'd even done the turn and it was accepted. But after the restart I appeared... without a Pretender at all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[llamabeast]

Okay, I can't immediately see what's wrong this time, so I guess it'll have to wait till I get home and can fire up Dominions to take a look. Sorry 'bout that.

[llamabeast]

Aaaah, I see. What actually happened, alhorro, was that because in your extraordinary speed you sent back a 2h file so quickly, it actually overwrote your pretender!

Anyway, fixed, and we are restarting again right now. Hopefully 3rd time lucky!

[Executor]

And we have started... again... for the third time!
(hope there won't be a fourth!)

[alhorro]

Thx llama, now everything seems to be fine.

[Sleet]

Aye, Thanks muchly llamabeast for setting up and hosting! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[anticipatient]

Many thanks to Llama indeed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Executor]

It's really strange playing without score graph, I just can't get used to it,

and by the way am I the only one surrounded by many many knights!? ( not that they're a problem, just wondering )

Sure looks too much for indie 7

[chrispedersen]

On other matters:

I am in Chicago from Friday till Sunday.

I am not expecting to delay the game. My positions in all games will be capably handled by Mark Montero.

I am going to down the servers Thursday night at midnight, to give them a fresh reboot, and to install some remote management software.

That way if something happens while I'm away, there will be at least the possibility of resolving the problem remotely.

Best to all


Chris

[anticipatient]

Alright chris, see you back on Sunday or Monday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sleet]

We have met a neighbor.. we send over an emissary.

[chrispedersen]

Hmmm yes. Someone sent me an ... emissary. But since he came under the cover of darkness, and skulking about.

We ate him.

And what do you know! Lizard DOES taste like chicken.

Chickens, er lizards are welcome to send more, um, emissaries.

Of course, Ashdod hews to the beliefs of our forefathers. Eating our enemies, we gain their strengths. We shall have to think about this. WE do not want to taste like chicken.

[Executor]

I don't think he was referring to you, but yes you ate my... chicken,

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif sadface

[Sleet]

Indeed.. my emissary is having tea and crumpets. No chicken or lizard.

[anticipatient]

Fortunately, I had the foresight to make it clear to Ashdod that we giants of Jotunheim have very little in common with chickens, and furthermore, though we may be related, we taste nothing like their forefathers.

[anticipatient]

Did anyone remember to bring the pachyderm repellent? I wonder if elephants taste like chicken.

[anticipatient]

Anyone hear anything from Ulm?

[anticipatient]

Ah . . . I got a stale turn. Screwed me pretty bad http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif I'll do my best to stay in it, though, I s'pose http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[AlgaeNymph]

@#!#!!

(*deep breath*)

Misfortuine is not free points, as evident by my vital rainbow pretender getting killed by knights. Does anybody want to take over Ulm, or shall it go AI?

[alhorro]

@DryaUnda
Do you really think pretender death @turn17 means end of the game? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Of course misfortune is not free points, it's just another way of distribution. You had bonus research, but now you have to call god for couple of turns — resulting same research as other players. So I don't see any reason for panic.

[Executor]

Buying skull staff, but only if you can deliver this or the next turn.
And on a another matter , man do I wish we had score graphs now!!!

And to the emissary eating giants, that wasn't a very smart thing to do by the way.

[chrispedersen]

Hmm I should have eaten that chicken when I had the chance... Instead chickens have popped up all over. And tho I squish a bunch.. still more chickens. Giants down to 3 provinces!

As for it being smart, dear chicken... the mistake was not in eating the emissary. It was being peaceable and not eating the rest of your 'tastes like chickens' when I had the opportunity.

So the giants were attacked with surprise by the cowardly chickens, and with the aid of R'yalla. But I don't think I'm going to have the time to develop a taste for sushi. Two small, tiny cowardly races SHOULD be able to kill one.

Although Ryalla has made a mistake here - he has swapped a smaller, peaceable neighbor for a larger more agressive one.

C'tis controls almost the entire southern continent unopposed. Aid appreciated - but definitely beware. Ctis will come with out warning.

Also, if anyone has sitings of Ryallian armies, the intelligence would be appreciated.


Now, where are my boots of chicken stomping???!!!

[Executor]

You should have attacked me when you had the chance, I would have, but anyway I had no treaty signed with you and there for am not obligated to announce my war plans, as for as the rest I do honer my NAP's and treaty's and keep my word.

Quote:
C'tis controls almost the entire southern continent unopposed. Aid appreciated - but definitely beware. Ctis will come with out warning.

This is Incorrect, he still has most of his lands, and I do not have the entire southern continent, trere are still 3 of us on it. And now I control about 35-40%

[anticipatient]

Oh man . . . I too just had a MOST unfortunate encounter with a group of knights. That after innumerable mistakes and my closest ally accidentally killing my pretender.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[tgbob]

Eriu had the audacity to declare war on Agartha, who will now spend all her powers to ensure Eriu's destruction.

If you have boarders with the treacherous Eriu, we now warn you of their tricks and urge you to patrol your boarders lest you be set upon by a nation of sneak thieves and cowards.

[chrispedersen]

One picture is worth a thousand words. PM me for the password.

[chrispedersen]

Let it hereby be known that the ***player*** 'veto' cannot be trusted to keep his word. He broke a NAP +3, one turn in, in the game Tigerstripes.

[chrispedersen]

Milnius surveyed the carnage of the battlefield towering over the cowardly chickens and squid that lay at his feet.

It turns out that that he had had time to develop a taste for sushi after all. And squid really were the 'chicken of the sea'. At least the lizards didn't sign treaties.

Scouts reported the impending arrival of banelords from the east. Today was as good a day to die as any...

Squinting at the greater vastness - his last thoughts were... "I wonder if it tastes like chicken too........"
the taste of blood in his mouth....

[veto]

I should say sorry, if missed a turn of nap/ I warried you than waited and attaked only this turn/
If it's nessesary/ I can fall back and after it I'll attack again.

[don_Pablo]

ThatGuyBob said:
treacherous Eriu
nation of sneak thieves and cowards



What a compliments.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
We met in a combat 2or3 turns before my attack and have no treaty since then.

And besides study magic better. It can be useful in recognising spell used against youself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

[tgbob]

Myself hmm? None of my guys were hit with anything, and I forgot to move my mages forward so the dumb AI decided to cast worthless buff spells instead of what I had scripted.

But now that's fixed, please be attacking me some more.

[chrispedersen]

Certainly.

A nap +3 means there are 3 turns of peace after notification. There should be two turns more of peace.

It really doesn't matter for the nation of ashdod - but it would certainly redeem the honor of the squid peoples.

I would also stop mouthing bits about 'vile calumny' = )

.. the giants of ashdod.

[chrispedersen]

Post deleted by chrispedersen

[Executor]

I sense a dirty little spy plotting from the dark, It doesn't seem to be from the south continent but rather from the north-east one, what business has he in the Empire of C'tis?

[tgbob]

Getting rolled hard, oh well. Not a lot MA Agartha is capable of except dying.

For those wondering, Eriu is using E9N4 blessed thugs that are scripted for mist form and air shield and are currently sporting vine shields and frost brands.

I think his capital is at 212? I forgot the message exact I sent to Tien Ch'i.

Edit: The capital is 189?

[Executor]

Well this battle didn't go as planned, but a victory is a victory...

Talking about Tien Ch'i, WILL YOU STOP DOING THAT WITH YOUR SPY!!!

[anticipatient]

Apparently I'm not part of the game anymore. Is it possible I set myself to AI? I don't know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif That's sad.

[Sleet]

Sorry to see that anticipatient!

Had some hard luck and all with the stale turn and then your pretender dying, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif and now AI'd!

Never seen that before..

[anticipatient]

I think I must've done it on accident . . . I don't know how, though, 'cause it gives you a warning when you do that, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif/

Despite the bad luck (which was mostly my fault), I was having lots of fun. I wish the best of luck to my neighbors! In particular, I hope Arcosephale gets a bit of free real estate from the deal. Or better yet, maybe Ashdod can find a second life.

[Sleet]

Yes, it comes up with a prompt and says:
"this operation is irreversible. Are you sure?"

Could it be anything to do with being the admin of the game maybe..?
Well, anyway look forward to another game with you.
Cheers mate.

[chrispedersen]

Well I enjoyed playing with you anticipant. Thanks for setting up the game....

I nominate Arco as the new admin = ).

Well since you're no longer occupyingthose lands.. I may indeed move north...

[Staneth]

I'm sorry our grudge match ended this way anticipatient. Just when we finally opened that 2nd front too. Thanks for a good fight.

[veto]

I'm to copy here a message for Tien-Chi.
we accept the end of treaty. But we need no time to prepare. let the war begin immediately

[alhorro]

Mictlan wtb dwarven hammers, earth boots and death boosters. We can offer air boosters/items, frost brands or any type of gems for exchange.

[Executor]

C'tis Changing water and fire and some earth gems for death gems, also looking to buy dwarven hammer.

[chrispedersen]

Ctis needs death gems, since he is consuming them rapidly in his fight against me.

Good gentles, there is no reason to aid his plans - let him bleed out on those giantish shores. Every ctissian I kill, every horde is one fewer that you will have to face.

He has brought 19 marshmasters - and better - against me. Mages that could have been home researching. Let them bleed out good gentles....

[Executor]

You seem to have a tendency of exadurating things.
There are plenty mages researching back home don't you worry about me.
And so far I'm not the one whose bleeding.
And if you need to know, those gems aren't intended for battles, I have plenty of those on my mages, but for forging thus the forge hammer I also need.

Once again I ask if someone needs earth, fire or water gems in return for death gems, PM me, and also the forge hammer.

[chrispedersen]

Oh, I will readily admit I'm bleeding more =). As for exagerating - I will happily take a screen shot of our next combat and post it here. Feel free to hold back on my account = ).

[Executor]

And what a combat it was!!!
For a moment there I thought I was gonna lose.
I guess you were right about steel ovens, that makes me regret this a little considering the circumstances.

[alhorro]

Our scouts were totally confused with this battle. The Ashgod thug did not troubled himself with equipping a Robe of Shadows, and was disgracefully slaughtered by longdead meatshield, otherwise he was to win the battle.

As for our trade proposal, it's your last opportunity to make a profitable transaction at this month, otherwise we have to empower our mages. We are surprised that nobody has been interested in selling such common items as earth boots or skull staffs yet.

[Executor]

Will R'lyeh please contact me, very important.

[Executor]

Let it be known that the Empire of C'tis is from this moment on in war with the cowardly T'ien S'hi.

With no prior contact, no hostile intension's of any kind towards them and not even the whereabouts of their Nation, we were cowardly struck by pesky little birds. Any enemy of T'ien S'hi is a friend of my, contact me for support and information if needed.

[Sleet]

Am out of town with no PC access until tomorrow. Can we delay please?
Thanks,
sleet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[AlgaeNymph]

Who are the neighbors of Machaka and Eiru?

[anticipatient]

I delayed the game 36 hours for sleet.

[Sleet]

Thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Got the last turn in. Came home early from business trip.

I am Machaka. Neighbors? Have a few. Why? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Staneth]

I'm going to be out of town this weekend. I sent in my file for turn 34, but I'll need a delay for turn 35 until 5AM GMT on Monday.

Thanks!

[tgbob]

Woah! Agratha actually won against one of Eriu's thugs.

[don_Pablo]

Congratulations! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Executor]

C'tis buying astral and nature gems, either for money or water gems.
Also buying 2 dwarven hammers and a crystal matrix.

[Executor]

Dammit, this stale turn was a disaster for me,
I had a really important basketball turnament and didn't have time to ask for a delay.
Cris this battle was all your's, it couldn't have gone worse, congrats...

[Executor]

Why is this game so quiet?
I seem to be the only one posting here!?

Anyway C'tis looking for earth gems...

[Executor]

C'tis trading fire gems,
This months special is 3 fire gems for 2 gems of ANY OTHER TYPE,
Up to 40 fire gems to trade, order 40 now and you'll get another 5 fire gems for FREE!

[alhorro]

It looks like we have synchronization problems for some reason. My scout observed a battle this turn, where Agartha broke the Eriu's siege and soulslayed Eriu goddess. And in the same time the same goddess cast a global. Wtf?

[don_Pablo]

There could be other casters... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[alhorro]

Oops, my mistake. I've never read messages about globals thoroughly and thought the god's name in the message means it was she who'd cast the global http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[tgbob]

Wonder why the AI decided that curse of stones would be a good idea against statues?

Would've lost if your pretender was set to do some stomping instead of some casting.

[tgbob]

Aww Dominion killed. Oh well, it was fun well it lasted, see you all in other games.

[don_Pablo]

Thanks for the game. )

[Staneth]

Would anybody else be interested in raising the time limit to 48 hours?

[Sleet]

I am for 48 hour turn around.

[Sleet]

Will not be able to submit the turn file. A freebie for my enemies.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Sleet]

Machaka is asleep on the throne. Soon Acro will run the lands.
Sorry, cannot get to this turn at current 24 hour time.

[Executor]

Are we on 48 hours?

[Sleet]

sorry, going AI on this as I cannot do 24 hour turn around.
Missed some key turns.
Have a fun game..

Salute.

[Staneth]

Sleet we're on 48 hours now if you want to stay in.

[Executor]

Did Tien Shi capture Bogus and his gang, the AL is only targeting my mages?

[Executor]

Could we postpone the game a little, my turn doesn't seem to be getting in, I don't know whats wrong???

[Executor]

Seriously, something is wrong my turn isn't getting trough, I've requested turn resend played it all over again and nothing happened???
Ok, from what I see Llamaserver is down, so if we don't make the turn, or you don't delay the game I will request to roll back 1 turn, I think it's only fair, It's a very important turn!

[don_Pablo]

Well, I'm glad that all of my neibours are able to cast MindHunt upon each other.
But why it kills my scouts hiding there?..:rolleyes:

[Executor]

Ahh, first I thought someone was sneak mind hunting me because I can't see who's being hunted just a report comes in and I have no idea whos killed, but it appears that my scouts are being mind hunted too!

[Executor]

Can I have a 48 extension please? I am having troubles with my internet connection.

[Executor]

I'm back in the game people, sorry for the delay, I'm ready to win this one.

[Executor]

Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea if we switched to 72 hours now, we're in a very late stage of the game and I think we all need more time to do the turn.

[Executor]

I seem to be the only one writing in this thread.
So do we all take a stale or redo the turn? (I hope someone reads this)

[don_Pablo]

I'm reading this one. And some other too. )
As i see orders of one player were made. Mine not.
And it also seems to me that we are playing without a game admin a lot of time. I ask Llama for password but he doesn't answer yet.
I'm also for 72hour.

[veto]

I'm ready for 72 four interval/
So/I don't mind to redo the turn

[alhorro]

I had a stale turn too. I think we have to summon Llama at least to get the password, or maybe he'd find some time to examine what was the reason for the crash.

[don_Pablo]

I've got a password from Llama.

So hosting interval is changed to 72.

Game is rolled back to turn 88.
As i know it's recommended not to send old 2h file but redo that turn.

[Executor]

Well... it looks like someone sent the old 2h turn after all.

[alhorro]

So what are we doing? Continue playing with a stale turn?

[don_Pablo]

So what are we doing? Continue playing with a stale turn?
Yes...
Lets treat that stale as a negative random event and try to continue game.

I'll postpone hosting a little bit more

[Executor]

How could have the game crashed again since we all decided on taking a stale?

[alhorro]

Imho the only thing we can do — is asking llama to debug the crash and find out it's reason. Otherwise even if we manage to get a new turn without the crash after numerous attempts, we may face the same problem a turn later.

[llamabeast]

Hi guys,

Sorry it's taken me a little while to look at this.

Right, the error is:

--
NÃ¥got gick fel!
dnf: bg area 0
NÃ¥got gick fel!
dnf: bg area 0
--

Now, I _think_ this bug will be fixed in the next patch. From the progress page:

12th october
* Game could crash due to too many large units on the battlefield, fixed.

I'll post in the beta forum to check that this is a fix for this bug.

Now, assuming it is, you have the choice of waiting for the next patch, or trying to go further back in time by rollbacks, and hoping it'll be avoided next time. I think it is probably caused by a lack of space on the battlefield, in some huge battle. I may be wrong though.

I may forget to check this thread, so PM me if you want me to do anything more.

[Executor]

Sooo, this is probably caused by the war between me and Don Pablo then.

So who's up for a not 1, not 2 but 3 turn rollback???
It may be awhile till the next patch, so a rollback may be more reasonable, but than again that wouldn't be fair with me and Eriu seeing that both of us know what the other one's going to do and how to fight the SC (especially mine). This could really upset the balance of war.

I'm good either way, got some other games going on and seeing that Eriu has the upper hand in this war a rollback would suit me better, but I wouldn't want to play like that, and plus I've got something special planned.

[alhorro]

Thank you Llama.
Btw, I have one squad of ~40 size 4-6 creatures, this squad has been attacked by AI during all the stale turns, and it's been showing strange behaviour every time — only 6 units were doing something in the battle, and the rest just stayed on their position mixed with PD till the end of battle, despite they all are flyers. It's not likely that 40 mid-sized units eq "many large units", but... what if it's the reason?

Anyway, I'd suggest everyone to divide large creatures in the army setup and try hosting (without wasting our time on any other orders). If it goes fine, we can rollback 1-2 turns and try again (with separated units), if not — rollback deeper.

[alhorro]

So the new patch has been released.
Is anyone still interested in resuming the game?

[llamabeast]

Apparently the bug is indeed fixed, JK tested it.

[Executor]

Let's roll back set the clock and continue.

[don_Pablo]

Roll back to what turn?

[alhorro]

Any turn is fine for me (:
And iirc llamaserver keeps previous turns so you can host the game immediately without waiting for .2h resending.

[Executor]

Best to roll back when the crashing started, I think it was either 88 or 89.

[alhorro]

Don Pablo gave me admin pass today, and I've just forced hosting (assuming that llamaserver keeps previous turns). The game still crashes. So either .2h files are corrupted or our nice bug is still alive after the new patch. I'll pm Llama, maybe he can help (:

[Executor]

This game has been on hold for over two months now I believe.
Shouldn't we call it a drawn game since it keeps crashing with no reason, I think it's very obvious that we aren't gonna finish it anyway.

Also, if we are going to declare this game finished, would anyone mind if we all posted our last turns? I'd really like to see what I was up against, especially with Eriu.

Shame doe, it was a really good game.

[alhorro]

PMed you my last turn (:

Yes, very pity that we have to drop the game due to unknown bugs. It was a really n00bish, but funny game.

[Executor]

So anyway, here's my last turn.
Take a look if you're interested.
I had a very big clam factory going on and was going to cast AN with 500+ maybe even 999 gems in few turns.