FreshMeat - new thread, and game started!

[llamabeast]

Game Name: FreshMeat
Server: LLamaServer
Players: 10, newbies
Map: Cradle

Settings --
Indies: 6
Special Sites: 50
Randoms: Common
Graphs: Enabled
HoF: 15
Research: Standard
Victory: VP (NON-Cumulative)=5 points (need to capture 4 enemy capitals and hold them)
Renaming: On


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PLAYER LIST--

Sauromatia: Executor
Pangaea: Ubercat
Tir'Na Nog: Bwaha
T'ien Ch'i: majuva68
Arcoscephale: Piggles
Fomoria: Calahan
Niefelheim: meister_miagi
Helheim: Ossa
Lanka: anticipatient
Marverni: GrudgeBringer

UberCat is the admin for this game, so please direct requests for delays etc to him.

Note that the original thread had stuff about not using exploits. I won't bother spelling them out here - everyone is grown up enough not to be interested in using exploits, I'm sure.

[llamabeast]

The first turn has 48 hours on the clock in case of any difficulties. Subsequent ones will have 24 hours, until you guys reach a consensus that it should be extended to 48.

[llamabeast]

Oh, another thing. From my own experience, I would say one of the best ways to make it into an awesome game is to do lots of diplomacy and roleplaying. Send your neighbours messages, make plans and alliances. Post here with battle reports and stories of what your pretender's been up to. Between you, you're making an epic.

[anticipatient]

Thanks Llama, you are great http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[majuva68]

Thanks Llama

[GrudgeBringer]

I have my pretender still in the NewLords file but have deleted the freshmeat file with the TRN and First turn.

Do we need to resend in our Pretenders and I WILL need the TRN and first turn file. Thanks

Great Job llamabeast!!

Thanks Ubercat for taking over...

[GrudgeBringer]

I'm Smooth...turn sent

BEWARE the Mighty Marverni ParaTrooper Druids!!!

Good Luck to all (I'll need it)

[GrudgeBringer]

Game question...

If you are allied with a player and have an army on your mutual borders.

Another player attacks your ally in a province that you can help defend.

How can you go into your allies territory and fight the aggressor without attacking your ally?

[Ubercat]

GrudgeBringer said:
Game question...

If you are allied with a player and have an army on your mutual borders.

Another player attacks your ally in a province that you can help defend.

How can you go into your allies territory and fight the aggressor without attacking your ally?



You can't. The best you could do is ask your allies permission to take his land in order to help him out; then you can return it later after the crises has passed.

[Bwaha]

well, happy happy joy joy. we're on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Lord Chill

[Bwaha]

I rise from my slumber, sending for the Lord of war appropriations, I say "bring forth the Mighty Hero's, Let the criers sound thruout the land, Lord Chill calls for you." Then He looks at the Lord of research and says "the state of research in The Land is abysmal. Go forth and find me the best mages and scribes in The Land." Then i turn to my crystal ball and start scrying around me.

[llamabeast]

GrudgeBringer, your first post was a little hard to understand. I'll do my best.

You don't need the pretender or anything like that. You don't need the turn file from last time the game started - that game is dead. You do need the .trn file that was sent out last night (GMT, about 9 hours ago anyway). That needs to be put in your dominions3\savedgames\FreshMeat folder, and you should then be able to play the game.

If you've somehow deleted that file, you can request a resend. To do that go to www.llamaserver.net (http://www.llamaserver.net), click on "FreshMeat" and then click on "Request turn resend" at the bottom.

Hope that helps.

[GrudgeBringer]

I sent this to llamaserver also but am somewhat at a loss...I have played on a dedicated server (like WOW, Battlenet, ect) and TCP/IP but never PBEM.

I got turn 2 and put it in my file that has all the other files to get the game started (TRN, first turn ect) but now I am not sure what to do.

I loaded the game and tried to play the save to see if just putting turn 2 in there would update it but it doesn't.

Sorry I am really new at this but once this turn is done and I get it sent in I should be smooth for the rest of my game (I should last at least 3 weeks...I hope)

[Ubercat]

GrudgeBringer said:
I sent this to llamaserver also but am somewhat at a loss...I have played on a dedicated server (like WOW, Battlenet, ect) and TCP/IP but never PBEM.

I got turn 2 and put it in my file that has all the other files to get the game started (TRN, first turn ect) but now I am not sure what to do.

I loaded the game and tried to play the save to see if just putting turn 2 in there would update it but it doesn't.

Sorry I am really new at this but once this turn is done and I get it sent in I should be smooth for the rest of my game (I should last at least 3 weeks...I hope)



I'm not sure what the problem is. I'll just state the basics. If you already know all this, and it doesn't help, then I apologize. Under saved games you should have a FreshMeat folder which the turn file should be placed in. AFAIK, the turn file should be all you need to open up your turn. Select the game to play within Dom3. Take your turn and then save and quit.

Saving the game will generate a file with the extension 2h. You Email this to the server with "FreshMeat" as the subject line. If you don't have the correct map, that might be a problem. Earlier versions of Dom3 came with an earlier version of the cradle map which had some flaws. You have 3.17 installed, right?

[GrudgeBringer]

Thanks Ubercat...between you and llama I found out the problem...wasn't a biggie just the way I was looking at it.

Should be good to go now (unless I get my Prophet knocked off this turn).....

[Bwaha]

I gesture at my crystal ball, this thread is too hard to find. bring it up higher... thus is my will... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Calahan]

Can I please request a 24hr extension for turn 4 (ie. the next turn) as I'm likely to be out for most of Sunday.

TIA.

[Ubercat]

Taken care of. Of course the game will host anyway if/when everyone gets their turn in. This will start the timer over.

[Calahan]

Ubercat

Just checked the llamaserver site, and the turn timer says 'Turn 3 due 07:10 Monday 30th' which is great for me in theory, but what happens if the current 'turn 3' outstanding turns get submitted right now for example (currently Saturday 28th 21:00 GMT) then what happens? Will :-

a) the 'turn 4' timer gets set to 'Turn 4 due 21:00 Sunday 29th'. or

b) the 'turn 4' timer gets set to 'Turn 4 due 21:00 Monday 30th'

As if a) happens, I'm going to miss that deadline, as it's 'turn 4' I'll need an extension for and not 'turn 3'. And since I've already submitted my 'turn 3' now, I've lost 'control' (sort-of-speak) of being able to influence when the game hosts.

Sorry about any problems I'm causing, just want to be sure I don't stall this early on.

[Ubercat]

If the turn processed now, then yes, the 24 hours would start over again from right now. I will watch that and re-delay if a turn runs soon.

I had the same issue myself last year. I needed a delay and was expecting a turn to run soon. I knew that getting a delay right away would be pointless so I asked the admin to do it after the current turn ran. I've anticipated the possibility and should be able take care of it barring an emergency of some sort.

[Calahan]

Many thanks for keeping an eye on the turn timer for me Ubercat. Two big thumbs up for doing that :-)

Hopefully I won't actually need the delay to be more than a few hours, as I should be able to get my turn in by Monday 10am GMT at the latest.

[Bwaha]

Hail, fellow Lords and Ladies. I've one request, lets start the storytelling. In this fashion our exploits will heard thru-out the Multiverse. Lord Chill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Calahan]

Tales from the lands of Fomoria are sparse and scattered in these early days.

Many continue to long for a return to their watery homes of old, but life above ground isn't proving as unsavoury as most feared.

There is a story spreading around the towns of first contact being made with a nation of very tiny people. The increasing number of giants in the land are still amazed that such small beings can exist in the world. But word is that the Fomorian ambassadors will treat their small visitors with respect while they consider their diplomatic options.

One other snippet of news worth reporting from Fomorian lands is of a growing unease being felt by the followers of Enfys Dewin towards their knowledge hungry ice cousins from Niefelheim. Many can be heard saying the oft repeated maxim that too much knowledge possessed by one is a danger to all.

The world currently seems to be quiet. How long will it remain so?

[anticipatient]

(sorry guys, I've been on the road and a lot of screwy stuff has been happening with my internet connection, between Starbucks, hotels and random other-peoples' networks . . . so I sent my turn this morning, but it didn't go through. Sorry for the delay!)

[Bwaha]

Art, the Prophet of Lord Chill has spread the word of enlightenmnt to many. it has spread like the wind, theres hope coming, we will share the true way with many others. it will cost about $35 us dollars to find the way of truth... Lord Chill. Bwahahahaha, oops sorry, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Calahan]

Let it be known that the giants of Fomoria are now at war with the small and foolish inhabitants of Marverni.

Brief diplomatic negotiations between the two nations broke down after Marverni issued sudden demands, which were accompanied with an un-provoked attack on an undefended Fomorian province.

The Fomorian giants are sad that once again in their history, they are forced to fight off small creatures who try to claim their lands. Are we never destined to find a place to be at peace in this world?

[GrudgeBringer]

Ahhhh, How views differ when when armies march to your door and then want to postpone negotiations of peace until "The Fall" when They would be better prepared.

While we are of course small, Bare Chested, and lightly armed. But we are not without Dignity, Courage, and Honor.

We accept the challenge and will fight to the last man, the last woman, and after that the last child.

Peace is only a word My Lords, Actions are the stuff of Legends!!

Better to die fighting in the Sunlight than hiding in the Dark. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/firedevil.gif

[Bwaha]

Hmm, We dislike the idea of the marverni being oppressed. we are considering sending some peace keepers to the source of this combat. stealth troops of course. I ask that a little reason be used at this time. the slaughter of the marverni children fills me with loathing. whats next, sacrficing their little girls on altars? We think not! So in closing We say this shall not stand! Cease your war of aggresion, go find some indie's to oppress. Lord Chill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Calahan]

Oh mighty Lord Chill

Many Fomorians speak highly of your fine race, indeed most of the Fir Bolg's in our society have close relatives from the great nation of Tir'Na Nog. So any worsening of relations between our two nations will certainly cause much unrest throughout all of Fomoria.

But please understand that Fomoria did not start the war against Marverni, and it is certainly not Fomoria's war of aggression. The subjects of my land simply demand action and justice for an unwarranted attack by Marverni. In the first month of fall, a large mass of flesh bearing warriors simply marched over the river, completely out of the blue, and attempted to force their will on the innocents of Fomoria.

So please tell what other course of action do I now posses other than to retaliate? The Marverni attack was no accident. It was not a mis-understanding. It was an attack of pure aggression on their part, and also an act of war.

The people of my land will never accept a simply apology, and neither can mercy be shown to such an un-warranted attack by Marverni. Fomoria surely has the right to defend itself against a hostile neighbour does it not?

Please do not paint Fomoria with the brush of tyrant in this conflict. Every ruler who cares about the safety and well being of his people would do no different to what I have done. Can any leader truly lead if he is unwilling to act against attacks to his realm? Can a leader lead if he does nothing but sit idle while his lands are ravaged and his people slaughtered? I am sure you will agree that he can not on both counts.

Calahan, Lord of the Fomorian Death Giants

[anticipatient]

This is kind of starting to frustrate me. I sent in a turn 28 hours ago, come back to play again, and I've gotten a stale turn! It was probably foolish to be signed up for three games while I was going to be taking a road trip, true, but I'm coming online to play every 24 hours, give or take a few . . .

Could we please change the hosting interval to 36 hours or something? Stale turns at this point in the game HURT!

[Bwaha]

We view this current state of affairs with alarm. Call out the local guard. Full war mobilation initated. The curse against formoria will hold. This was the reason that the curse was started against them. agression beyond belief is their battle cry. all nations who stand for liberty rally to my cry. please send donations to the marvs. they will repay this token. i will stand as a foe to those who coniniue to opress these fine people... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif LC

[Calahan]

Lord Chill

Will it be your policy to call for war against any nation who is simply defending itself? Should every nation now take the first steps in attacking their neighbours, just so they can claim support from Tir'Na Nog as a reward for their aggressive actions?

Or in your view is it just the nation of Fomoria who should be denied the basic right to defend themselves, and to seek an existence in this world?

You also claim a curse on Fomoria for their 'aggression beyond belief'. But so far Fomorian soldiers have yet to set foot inside any Marverni province, and it is Marverni warriors that have been aggressively attacking. You are either making many false assumptions about our war with Marverni, or you are receiving false information from your spies and sources.

The Fomorian people do not understand your nations sudden vendetta against them for simply wishing to defend their homes. If war against Fomoria is now your stance then so be it. Our only request to you is that you either be consistent in the future, and call for war against any nation who tries to defend themselves against aggressive invaders. Or you state clearly why the nation of Fomoria should be the exception., and why it is that we alone in your view deserve to receive your curse.

Calahan, Lord of the Fomorian Death Giants.

[Ubercat]

anticipatient said:
This is kind of starting to frustrate me. I sent in a turn 28 hours ago, come back to play again, and I've gotten a stale turn! It was probably foolish to be signed up for three games while I was going to be taking a road trip, true, but I'm coming online to play every 24 hours, give or take a few . . .

Could we please change the hosting interval to 36 hours or something? Stale turns at this point in the game HURT!



Sorry, I originally read this post after an exhausting workshift and I didn't make the connection that I was the one who needed to do something. I've changed the interval to 36 hours now, so just let me know when you're back on a good schedule.

[Bwaha]

We ask all who are available to look at the ancient history. see:http://www.geocities.com/area51/vault/6990/formor.html

as you can see the curse was caused by their own magics. we have nothing to do with mutagenic compounds. we just simply want the Marvaini to exist if relative peace. The story line will improve if they are allowed to survive. (the rants they add to the game is priceless) So in closing, what we desire is a peace that is satisfactory for everyone. LC

[GrudgeBringer]

The Days grow Darker as the smoke from the villages are filling the air.

The stench of rotting bodies from the battles my brave men have fought is like an intoxicating wine to the few that remain.

We are Holed up in our Fortress making preparations to die gloriously in defence of our remaining people.

The children have been rounded up and put deep into the hold of the Fortress in the safest area so as not to be hit by any missles the Fomorians might hurl over the walls.

They await the knife that they know will bring them to salvation instead of slavery that the evil empire on our doorstep will try and force upon them.

Sacrifices have been made, Faces painted and chests decorated for the coming battle.

We have done all we can and we wait in High Spirts knowing that Our Lord and Master DARK-OMEN is with us.

We say this....Thank you to our friends and allies for thier support and they will be remembered in the writings of our people.

We have but one course left to us and we will fight till the last drop of blood leaves our viens and we slip into the sweet darkness of death by battle.

We say to you FOMORIA...

COME, test our defenses, do what you have come to do....

Because if you don't do it now we will gain strenth from our allies, and your forces will never leave our borders alive.

ABLNMOGIA MARVERNI!!!!!!!!! (Never Retreat,Never Surrender)


GrudgeBringer

[anticipatient]

I will be back on a consistent schedule by the 14th of July. However, I need a turn stall for the 10th and 11th of July. I will be in Yellowstone with no internet access. :O!

[Ubercat]

anticipatient said:
I will be back on a consistent schedule by the 14th of July. However, I need a turn stall for the 10th and 11th of July. I will be in Yellowstone with no internet access. :O!



Ok. If you can, PM me a day before to make sure that I remember. Thanks.

[anticipatient]

Alright, I'm back and ready to rock!

[Bwaha]

Our envoy receives a scroll, after reading it, he stands and says, Ahem, it seem we have been mistaken about the source of the marv. vs form. war. I've been recalled to the capitol for consultaions. We are faced with a unfaithful ally. He stands and remarks, "those ***-****s want to embroil us in a war with out cause... Lets see them like one of our cause... Of course not the the marvs. they have been faithfull with all agreements. Someone else has inspired our rage... Mutters, four months left before we can find justice. And counting... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[anticipatient]

Ah, well, Marvereni is no longer part of the equation . . .

[Bwaha]

So they are, or rather aren't. Damn they understood the value of a good story. (And had great rants) Well thats done. To all other players I request more great rants, and stories, to make up for the loss of this fine fellow. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[GrudgeBringer]

(Writings of a great People called the Maverni found in a cave)

The Sun has set upon the people

The children have gone into the void bravely as has all of our Warriors and our race.

Our Pretender, DARK-OMEN stands alone for one last battle.

It is better to perish by the hand of a friend than to be enslaved by the Enenmy.

But a rumor has surfaced that the Son of one Noble has been spirted away to be hidden until such a time as he will start a quest to regain the throne.

We have scorched what land is left to us so as to give no comfort to the victors.

We thank our dear allies for thier attenpted help in our time of need and they will be rewarded in thier time.

As I am the last of the people and my sight dims as the blood flows out of my veins, I will softly say that The Maverni never retreated and never surrendered.

Three Toed Pete Prophet to the people /threads/images/Graemlins/icon19.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Executor]

Dammit I staled...
At least it didn't hurt so much like in some other games of mine

[anticipatient]

I almost want to give GrudgeBringer his capital back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Hey Grudge, you playing in Beer game?

[GrudgeBringer]

No I have only played sauro ans arco to any extent and after my little excursion in Fresh Meat I see I need to plan things a little better.

Besides they had 15 already and I didn't want to put them over the limit even tho they where VERY nice to hold it for me.

I WILL be back tho....soon

[anticipatient]

ok grudge, pm me when you're going to play http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif maybe ill have time to join your game

[Bwaha]

Well, we miss you already. Your rants are fun.

[GrudgeBringer]

Thanks Guys...

It was fun and I learned ALOT and made some friends.

All in all I would say it was a success AND I found out I really do like the role playing aspect.

As Arnold would say "I'll be back"

[Bwaha]

A silver hawk flies into the council chambers, and lands on the place reserved for Tir... With a flash of light he changes into our envoy... He clears his throat, and says, "We have completed our conference, We The Land of the Tir do declare war on the feckless Tein. He throws down a gauntlet. Hostilities will begin next month. No one else need concern themselves with this matter, The other resident of this fine Isle is acting as a true ally. We request one thing from the council, This little Isle has room for just two races so please don't interfere with this little domestic house cleaning. Thank you for your cooperation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[anticipatient]

Arcosephale has invaded the lands of Lanka without warning, pursued our generals and furthermore claimed the right to continue to do so! Let it be known that the Apemen and Demons of Lanka will not stand for such abuse! The men of Arcosephale will be enslaved, their women used by the lowest among our Apemen, and their leaders' souls will be devoured slowly and tormented by the lesser kin of the Demons of Lanka. The temples of Arcosephale will be burned, and they will be left in history. With their gross offenses, they have lost their place in the future! Let it be so!

Any fellow neighbor of Arcosephale should be wary -- even the most piteous beast can be dangerous in the throes of death!

[anticipatient]

We shed a tear for our short lived allies and our short lived alliance with them! At least their women will be devoured by friends among the Lovely Lankans, rather than their Fomorian Foes.

Marvereni have been eliminated, haven't they? Why are they still on the llamaserver? is that normal?

[llamabeast]

The LlamaServer includes all nations in the list for which Dominions produced a .trn file last turn. Once a nation gets knocked out Dominions still produces one last turn for it, in which they can see the "You have been defeated" message. Ideally a player will click "End turn" for that final turn and send in the 2h for it, so the other players don't have to wait. However, people generally don't, as it seems pointless.

The following turn Dominions will not produce a trn file for the dead nation, and they'll disappear from the list of nations on the LlamaServer.

[GrudgeBringer]

Geeeeeeez, I'm not even bled out yet and they want my race erased from the history of the world.....

Nooooooooo, don't throw water on me!!!!

Heeeeelp, I'm Melting!!!!

GOOD LUCK ALL....nice to see your all playing nice with each other, glad I could help get the party started!!

[GrudgeBringer]

sorry I didn't know that, I THINK I just deleted the game but not sure as i usually hit end turn.
Regardless, I now know the right protacol.

Sorry if I held you up.

Grudge

[anticipatient]

No prob grudge http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif sorry I killed your phoenix. He was tasty.

[Bwaha]

Wow, already bbq turkey. just add seasoning... And returns the next day... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[meister_miagi]

If anyone has their eyes set on invading the southern continent, now is the time. Pangaea in the west is busy besieging Niefelheim's capitol with a large force and his lands are undefended. Sauromatia in the east has just declared war on Niefelheim and is preparing for an invasion, which will leave his coastal provinces largely defenseless.
This is clearly a campaign to purge the world of giants, all free peoples should unite to liberate Niefelheim from its oppressors. If not for the sake of justice, then for cultural diversity and our fight against global warming.

[anticipatient]

Haha Meister you're funny, I like you. If I was anywhere nearby, I'd help. In other news . . .

[anticipatient]

Today is a great day! The False Pretender, The Magnificent Piggles, the Prince of Death, has been turned to dust. He was long overdue. The rest of his kingdom shall follow shortly.

Don't say we didn't warn you, Arcosephale. And definitely don't say we didn't warn you repeatedly. Because we did. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ubercat]

meister_miagi said:
If anyone has their eyes set on invading the southern continent, now is the time. Pangaea in the west is busy besieging Niefelheim's capitol with a large force and his lands are undefended. Sauromatia in the east has just declared war on Niefelheim and is preparing for an invasion, which will leave his coastal provinces largely defenseless.
This is clearly a campaign to purge the world of giants, all free peoples should unite to liberate Niefelheim from its oppressors. If not for the sake of justice, then for cultural diversity and our fight against global warming.



The gall. The unmitigated gall....

[Bwaha]

I Lord of the Tir find no fault with the Pan. They also are one with nature and haven't shown any signs of polluting their domain. or mine... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[anticipatient]

Well, it's a move of desperation, it sounds like. On the other hand, Miagi may very well be right http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif now might just be the time to take a bite of Pang of Sauro =p

Anyway, I'm busying myself with Arcosephale.

[Executor]

Take a bite of Pang of Sauro???
Sauro does the bitting around here, and why have our brothers in Blood, Lanka, turned on us?

[anticipatient]

Oh, I'm not turning on you, Executor! I am just saying that Mr. Miagi, unless he is misrepresenting the facts, is probably right that you're vulnerable. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I also noted that it sounds like a tactic of desperation, which means Miagi probably isn't doing such a hot job of holding up against the onslaught.

You're right, though, Sauro definitely does the biting. I don't think I have a bite attack in my entire arsenal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Executor]

Yes... I now feel rather bad that I'm about to attack Neifel, I don't think anybody could survive an onslaught like this at this point of game, but my army had to be directed somewhere and we consider Fomoria our friends!

[Ubercat]

Executor said:
Yes... I now feel rather bad that I'm about to attack Neifel, I don't think anybody could survive an onslaught like this at this point of game, but my army had to be directed somewhere and we consider Fomoria our friends!



You shouldn't feel bad. He invaded me the turn after I sent him a friendly note offering a NAP and stating that I would not take any neutrals closer than 2 provinces from his capital. Then, after I fought back, he turned my sieging of his capital into a heinous war of extermination against giants! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Bwaha]

Yes, more info requested, our scibes are working overtime... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[anticipatient]

Hm.. Arcosephale seems to be delaying http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


(Nothin' personal piggles http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[meister_miagi]

Typical anti-giant propaganda. The honourable Niefel Giants will hear no more of this slander.

[Calahan]

There has been an anti-giant campaign in the world of 'FreshMeat' from the very first days of creation. First the Fomorian's were attacked without provocation by the brave but reckless people of Marverni. This was followed by threats to Fomoria from Tir na n'Og, who objected to Fomoria very existence, and finished off with a dashing rescue of Marverni from Fomorian clutches by the rampant demon monkeys of Lanka.

And now the same story is being read over once more, as another nation of giants finds itself repelling borders against multiple foes. What have the giants done to deserve such hostile receptions and reactions from almost all the other nations?

[anticipatient]

Fomoria was never persecuted by Lanka.

[GrudgeBringer]

I see Piggles (Arco) needs a sub....

Heeeee's Back!!

GrudgeBringer has risen from the grave and is willing to get banged up agian....but I am playing arco in 3 other MP so I do know it a little.

How strapped is piggles in this game?

I will sub and fight to the finish and not AI it, just wanted to know if I had a chance...

[majuva68]

Hi again

[Executor]

Hail to Grudge who was killed and taken over Arco just to be killed again, may you die a thousand times!!!

[Piggles]

Hey guys. Sorry for not being more responsive. I'm ready to hand things over to grudgebringer. What do I have to do?

I have to admit, things are looking somewhat dire, but maybe you can put all that research to good use. I just can't give the game the attention that it requires right now.

[GrudgeBringer]

Grrrrrrrrrr, The Great GrudgeBringer is a dangerous foe...

He has nothing to lose and everything to gain by being the Joker in this game.

Be afraid...Be VERY afraid!!!

(that being said) Are all my buddies STILL my buddies agianst the evil empires?

Also, I have never subbed so do I get like a 2 turn moritorium on being attacked or attacking to analyze what I have and what to do?

[anticipatient]

Arcosephale is almost out of the game, Grudge. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[llamabeast]

Oh whoops, I'm still admin for this game aren't I? Careless.

If you want me to switch arco to you, GrudgeBringer, just PM me your e-mail address.

[Calahan]

Hello again Grudge :-)

Thought you'd better know that Arco are probably in a no hope position, and if you do take over them you will be at war with Lanka and with Fomoria, again! Which is definitely nothing personal :-)

Actually not sure how much longer Arco will last to be honest, as there are 2 wars in full swing against them, and it'd be a bit too much to ask either Fomoria (myself) or Lanka (anticipatient) to delay their attacks against Arco for 2-3 turns so that a sub could get settled in.

[anticipatient]

I can tell you how long Arco will last. Four turns, plus two-there turns siege time, unless there are some mighty big tricks up arcosephalean sleeves.

I want a couple of oreiads . . .

Yeah, I'd be willing to let you get settled in, except that I've spent a good seven turns or more committing the majority of my forces against Arco . . . so they'd just be eating up gold if I let up. Course, you could always bribe me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[anticipatient]

What's the hold up with arco and fomoria?

[GrudgeBringer]

well, if its hopeless and its more of a just play it out situation then I will watch from the sidelines.

Just trying to help out.

Good luck all!!

[Bwaha]

Zzzz. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[llamabeast]

Gaah, I have been very dopey remaining as admin on this game. Would anyone volunteer to take over for me?

[Ubercat]

I'm already the admin of this game. Did I miss something?

[llamabeast]

Nope, that's excellent, thanks.

I got confused because this thread was still on my "Favourite threads" list, which I normally only use for games I'm admining. I'll take it off now.

Thanks again Ubercat.

[Ubercat]

I'm still not sure if I'm supposed to do something here. I don't know how to switch a faction between players, if that's what is needed. Could someone spell out what factions are involved and how I do it?

[anticipatient]

Arcosephale is almost dead, and Piggles quit pretty recently. We could turn him AI or have someone play his remaining turns (honestly, there will be something like 8 or 10, I think).

[Ubercat]

I'll change his Email to mine and when I get his turn I'll set him to AI and send it back. That's a lot easier than trying to find a sub, especially since they'll just be waiting to get eliminated anyway.

[anticipatient]

I requested that llama give me a 24 hour extension for this game. If that's not okay, I can take the stale.

[llamabeast]

I think you wanted Ubercat. Still, I did it (30 hours in fact) - I hope that's okay, Ubercat.

[Ubercat]

That's fine.

[Bwaha]

can we go to 48

[Ubercat]

Bwaha said:
can we go to 48



Done.

[anticipatient]

I would like to point out, publicly, that majuva68 has threatened (and is following through with said threat) that were I to make war on him in the game, Freshmeat, he would make war on me in all games.

I encourage all of you to review Sheap's rules of conduct.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=d3maars&Number=575534

Please discourage majuva68 from carrying issues from one game into other games.

And yes, following his threat, I broke our nap.

[Calahan]

I agree wholeheartedly Anticipatient.

I think THE golden rule above all others for Dominions MP games is that you should always keep your games absolutely separate, and never ever take issues from one game into any other games. As a player who is a firm ally in one game can easily be your most aggressive back-stabbing foe in another. And that's the way it should be. As each game brings up its own unique problems and issues, but these should never be allowed to escape from the enclosed game world in which they occur, and then should all come to an end with the end of that particular game.

I read Sheap's fantastic MP guide several times before playing my first MP game. I highly advise anyone who hasn't read it to do so now (link in anticipatient's above post)

[majuva68]

My laptop is K.O, the hardisk is breaking. I can't do nothing. Anticipatient, you attack me without respect our NAP, this is the reason we are in war in all games. I can't connect in 15 days, when i'll come back we disscuss this. I can say a lot of things but you attack me before NAP is broken. Who are best ?. Put me in A.I, I can't search a sub

[Calahan]

All

Hope nobody objects, but I've started looking for a sub for majuva68, and asked Ubercat for a 48hr delay to give a reasonable chance of finding one.

I think it would be a real shame if one of the competing nations had to be turned AI at this late stage.

[Ubercat]

All

Hope nobody objects, but I've started looking for a sub for majuva68, and asked Ubercat for a 48hr delay to give a reasonable chance of finding one.

I think it would be a real shame if one of the competing nations had to be turned AI at this late stage.

48 hour delay it is.

[Ubercat]

It's not looking good as far as a sub goes. We may just have to AI TC and all of us face the consequences.

[Calahan]

Yeah, can't see anyone taking up the sub offer for T'ien Ch'i now. I had a go at finding a sub, but as Homer Simpson would say "I tried and I failed, the moral is never try"

My vote now is to set T'ien Ch'i to AI. That has to be better than just letting them stale it out. They'll probably just be Demon Monkey food soon anyway.

[anticipatient]

Yeah, they're demon monkey food . . .

[Executor]

This turn didn't go at all as planned, but the one thing I don't get is why the archers aimed for the commanders, you couldn't have had the bogus gang orders, I think.
Ok, since I've been in war since turn 10 constantly, saved Pangaea from Neif. without a months peace I'd enjoy some help against this Fomorian outbrake!
Take a bite of Fomoria!
This years bounty is 10 gold for Fomorian giant, and 50 for Fomorian king, and 100 gold and 3 gems of all kind to the one that takes one of Fomoria's forts.

[Executor]

??? Everything went completly wrong,
I didn't put troops on move and patrol but they somehow decided on doing that anyway, I was sure I ordered some other thing that didn't go as they were supposed to???
And on another matter, my congratulations to Master Miagi, you lured me like a damn fool, you couldn't have done it better!

[anticipatient]

I, as Lanka, have declared war on Fomoria. We've enjoyed them as a neighbor, really, but the time has come :) Hostilities will ensue in 2 more turns.

[Calahan]

Yes, the Fomorians are not too surprised by the war declaration from Lanka. I can't say it is a welcome change to the relationship between our two nations, but maybe it is good that at least now Fomoria has a chance to de-wheel the formidable Lankan war machine.

The Fomorians also hope they can prove to be far more worthy foes to Lanka than the pathetic efforts of Arco and T'ien Ch'i. As the rulers of both simply run away at the first sign of trouble, while their troops laid down, died, and ended up in the monkey feeding trough!

It's time for 'FreshMeat' to have it's own version of the credit crunch! Will anyone remain unscathed? :D

Calahan, Lord of Fomoria


ps Anticipatient. I'm still very much a newbie regarding Dom diplomacy and customs, so to avoid any problems regarding NAP cancelations etc, here's my interpretation of the procedure. Game is currently on turn 41-

Turn 41 (received in-game cancel 3-turn NAP notice, so is therefore Turn 1)
Turn 42 (Turn 2)
Turn 43 (Turn 3)
Turn 44 (check the battle reports for spilt monkey blood!)

Let me know if your interpretation is different to mine. You've been a very good, and honourable neighbour/friend, and looking forward to a well fought war on both sides :)


ps Executor. Can't say everything went wrong for you last turn. That mounted guy with the lance certainly deserves some credit! A very impressive critical hit I must say. And I'm dis-appointed that I won't get chance to question the other guys I lost, since I'd love to know who's scripts they were following!
Also, the battle where I seemed to target your commanders with my arrows was triggered, I think, by either your blood slaves (as they are counted as viable 'fire rearmost' targets) or by the darkness making my precision so bad that the arrows were in fact just miles off target! Pretty sure that stealing Bogus mate's 'Fire Commanders' script is a well accepted banned exploit, and I'm not the sort of Dom player who tries to win at ANY cost.

[Executor]

Bogus gang is in my lands since turn... 15 or so, never had the time to send someone to kill them, had too much going on, and when I finally thought I could have a couple of turn peace to build up vampires and such, you attacked so I guess this game is as well as over for me, but I'ma give you hell before I go under!!!

Calahan, If you are referring to battle in 34, they weren't supposed to attack you, don't know what went wrong, that was pretty much the last of my sacreds and If I wanted to attack you I would have blessed them.

[Calahan]

Executor. If you check the battle order for (34) in the last turn, the first battle happens in the magic phase, so when your troops arrive during the movement phase, you've already lost control of the province, so your army wasn't able to defend your fortress. They therefore attacked my army instead.

The critical hit I mentioned above was in reference to the battle in (43). Big unexpected Ouch!

[Bwaha]

Hi, I just found out that I lost my best friend of more than twenty years... I request a 72 hour hold. I just need some time to mourn.

[Ubercat]

Hi, I just found out that I lost my best friend of more than twenty years... I request a 72 hour hold. I just need some time to mourn.

I'm very sorry for your loss. I'll delay it now.

edit: Can't seem to connect to the server. I'll try later.

[Bwaha]

Wait, I just realized I'm out of this game so don't stop on my account

[Ubercat]

Wait, I just realized I'm out of this game so don't stop on my account

hrrrmmm.. I just got home and should have come here before going to llammaserver. I'll go undelay the game. Better fortune and happier times to you, Bwaha. See you in other games.

[anticipatient]

Actually, executor, if he managed to gain control of bogus, one of the very nice things about bogus and co is that they ARE able to aim specifically at commanders. I kind of consider it rude of whoever used this command and didn't tell you about it after you pointed it out specifically.

[anticipatient]

Nevermind my comments about rudeness.

Calahan, I was pretty much just going to wait until you attacked to fight, since I am bad at keeping track of turns and NAPs, so we'll go with your interpretation.

By the way, I think the llamaserver is down until 25th. Because it seems to be broken ATM and Llama is out of town until 25 or 26.

[Executor]

He doesn't have bogus orders the gang is on my turf, although some bastard gave it to all units back in tigerstripes and went AI after, your game anticipatient you were jotunheim.
Lamaserver isn't down, I just postponed blitzkrieg, everything is working fine.

[Calahan]

Can I please request a 24hr delay for the current turn. Fighting 3 wars takes a lot of (time consuming) planning!

And Ubercat, which box of campaign badges would you like sent to you for your Maenads to wear? Those currently available include-

"I love Demon Monkeys"
"Lanka Worships the True Pretender God"
"Down with Giants"

[Ubercat]

Can I please request a 24hr delay for the current turn. Fighting 3 wars takes a lot of (time consuming) planning!

And Ubercat, which box of campaign badges would you like sent to you for your Maenads to wear? Those currently available include-

"I love Demon Monkeys"
"Lanka Worships the True Pretender God"
"Down with Giants"

Game is delayed. As for the campaign badges, I choose none of those you mentioned because none are true. We don't love demon monkeys. The Lankans don't yet worship the true pretender god and it was Niefelheim that started that "Down with Giants" stuff to elicit sympathy after his invasion of us turned sour on him.

However, come up with a slogan we like and we'll need about 5 truckloads, not just a box. Thanks!

[Executor]

There was never a down with giants campaign. I was stuck between two giants, a terrible position for Sauromatia by the way, who was I supposed to attack?
And funny enough I menaged to kill Neifelheim, and am still alive against Fomoria although he's ransacking around my lands and sieging my forts...

[anticipatient]

Sh-t. I broke 4/5 of my LCD computer screen. :o/ Smashed. White, black and pink. No good. I can't run dom3 on any other computer at the moment, so the 10 or 11 games I'm in need subs :( I'm really sorry. Hopefully it'll be temporary (anyone know if it's possible to replace monitors on laptops?)

Okay, I go to post on the next game =(

[chrispedersen]

Hey Executor... still not getting turns subbing for lanka.
So anticipant, if you still want this let ex know.

Otherwise, you guys may want to pause the game.
best chris

[Ubercat]

Let me know what you guys want to do, either in the thread or by PM's. I don't have the time to closely monitor the situation so I'm trusting the players to decide things.

[Calahan]

I'm probably going to need a 24 or 48 hour extension on this game anyway, as there is a lot the Fomorian's need to work out each turn, and no free time for me to do it (my mid-weeks are really hectic at the moment).

Maybe a short delay will also allow Anticipatient a chance to get his monitor problems sorted so that he can rejoin us :)

[Ubercat]

I'm probably going to need a 24 or 48 hour extension on this game anyway, as there is a lot the Fomorian's need to work out each turn, and no free time for me to do it (my mid-weeks are really hectic at the moment).

Maybe a short delay will also allow Anticipatient a chance to get his monitor problems sorted so that he can rejoin us :)

I'll go ahead and delay 48 hours. It can't hurt.

[anticipatient]

Ah, I thought I submitted my turn, but I just got it resent to me.. we didn't roll back the turn or anything did we?

[anticipatient]

I'll keep playing Lanka, but I don't have time to play the turn again until tomorrow night.

[Ubercat]

Ah, I thought I submitted my turn, but I just got it resent to me.. we didn't roll back the turn or anything did we?

No. I didn't redo the turn.

[chrispedersen]

You got another turn anticipant, as I was trying to play your turn for you as you asked... I requested a turn resend.

Since you're back on the thread and the moderator never did the substitution, I'll just drop out of the discussions and wish you all good luck.

C

[Ubercat]

Guys, if you need Email substitutions then you need to tell me, explicitly. I don't have time to read between the lines. As I said at the top of the page, tell me what you need done.

And also, PLEASE include all info including the game name in any PM's. I'm adminning another game as well. Thank you.

[Executor]

I've sent some in-game messages and set to AI the same turn, don't know if they'll be sent. I'm almost done for,anyway, been nice playing you all.

[Ubercat]

The guy who was supposed to be taking over Lanka says that he's no longer interested in playing Dom3, due to hurricane Ike. I'm putting it on AI. I don't have time to advertise for a sub and how slim are the odds of getting someone, anyway? If somebody else wants to volunteer for the advertising position I'll wait till later today to give you a chance to speak up.

[Ubercat]

There are only three of us left in this game and both of you are probably much stronger than I am. Does it seem like one of you has a clear advantage? I'd be happy to concede if one of you does as well. It would free us up to get into new games.

It was a big mistake of me to take EA Pangaea. I don't know what I thought I was going to accomplish. They're crippled by a lack of death magic which their best spells require.

[Ossa]

Yes, Formoria defenitly has a clear advantage.

I'd say he is the winner of this game. I hoped to come up as the laughing third while Llanka and Formoria bash each others armies, but the giants are too stron for this.

I'm quite happy about being alive so late in the game though;)

[Calahan]

'Hi All', or should that just be 'Hi Ubercat and Ossa' now?

It certainly looks like I have a very strong position now as Fomoria. I'd guess it's close to being unstoppable, although this is my first MP game to get anywhere near that sort of stage, so I'm not exactly an expert on when a nation becomes unstoppable.

Must say I'm a bit disappointed at the pretty sudden end to my 'competitive' wars with Sauromatia and Lanka. Although one of the main probs with any game that last 2-3 months is that at certain times people are inevitably going to drop out, and there's nothing anyone can do about it :( Sad, but that's just part of the game I guess.

I'd be happy to accept a concession victory at this point. Sauromatia are now effectively dead, since the AI tried busting out of some sieges last turn with disastrous consequences. Think that's one of the AI's weakest points, as 'Executor' (or any human player) would certainly never have tried it. Fomoria v Lanka promised to be a real tough war, and one I was looking forward too, as it would be my first ever real taste of a late game MP battle :) But that won't happen now against the AI, as I've beaten the AI enough times in SP to know it'll be a seriously one-sided affair from here on.

So 'Ubercat' and 'Ossa', if you are both happy to concede at this point then I'll accept it, and give you both my thanks for being part of an enjoyable game, and along with my thanks to all the other players of course :) I know I'd appreciate the extra time I'd free up for my other games if this one did come to an end. Coordinating multiple Cloud Trapezers and Teleporters per turn is a real time munching exercise that's for sure!

[Ubercat]

'Grats, Calahan. I'll go and set myself to AI now. If Ossa does the same then the game should end on it's own, I think.

[Ossa]

Will do.

Congrats for the win!