DeadlyMedley - running

[Ubercat]

Because it's so hard to snag Mictlan in EA games, I've decided to start my own. llammabeast has graciously agreed to host on his server.

Map: Cradle of Dominions
Mods: None
Players: 12
Player level: Intermediate to Advanced
Graphs: On
Hall of Fame: 15
Turnaround: 24 hours for the first 10 turns. After that we'll play it by ear.
Victory Conditions: By victory points. Each capital is worth one. Must hold any 6 simultaneously to win, or by concession.

Let's agree to some ground rules. NAPS should be honored both in letter and in spirit. No sneaky spells attacking NAP partners. No exploits or cheats. So on, so forth.

1. Mictlan ...Ubercat
2. Caelum....Tyrant
3. Hinnom....Ossa
4. Ulm.....Heinrich
5. Tir na n'Nog..Fal ???
6. Helheim..archaeolept
7. R'lyeh...sansanjuan
8.
9. Abysia.....Dragar ???
10. Tien'Chi..Juffos ???
11. Vanheim...StrictlyRockers
12. Sauromatia...jimkehn

Arcosephale? WTF??

[Tyrant]

Caelum please.

[Ossa]

Hinnom for me please

[Heinrich]

Count me in with Ulm please.

[Fal]

Tir na n'Og for me. thanks

[Tyrant]

bump

[Pelthin]

I will play Ermor, I am still new at the MP thing, but have played a ton of SP. If someone with more experience wants in, feel free to bump me.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ubercat]

Pelthin said:
I will play Ermor, I am still new at the MP thing, but have played a ton of SP. If someone with more experience wants in, feel free to bump me.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



You are welcome as far as I am concerned, newb or not. I hope that if you are crushed by someone more experienced than you, then they will give you tips on how they did it and how to improve your strategy.

[Pelthin]

hehe... I am getting a lesson like that in a MP game right now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[sansanjuan]

Uber,
I'm a rookie but would like to give R'lyeh a spin if that is ok. I was going to skip summer play of Dom3 but your game beckons...
-SSJ

Edit: Would this be Cradle with Edi's fixes?

[Ubercat]

I believe that the map has been corrected as of 3.17. I had to install the game on a new PC when the old one died and I noticed that the map was good from the getgo.

[Whsiker_Biscuit]

I'll take Nief

[DakaSha]

bleh...

start a cbm game and im in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Ubercat]

Sorry. I've never used the CBM before so I'm not about to learn the details in an MP game. I get the impression that there isn't a consolidated, reliable, up to date version of it right now anyway, so I'm hesitant to mess with it in SP either.

[DakaSha]

cbm > vanilla

(but everybody has to find that out for themselves of course ^^)

there is an up to date version btw

[Ubercat]

I figured it was better. Problem is, AFAICT, there isn't a complete version of it which matches 3.17. When that changes I'll play a few SP games to get used to it. Then I'll probably either join or start an MP game which incorporates it.

As for now, as I stated, I'm not going to figure it out from scratch in an MP game.

[DakaSha]

yes there is ^^

version 1.3 is pretty dang new in fact (released on the 17th if im not mistaken)

but i understand not wanting to switch in game. thats why i wont play vanilla in amp ^^

[Dragar]

Abysia please

[Ubercat]

CBM downloaded. Thanks for letting me know I was wrong about it.

[Juffos]

I would like to join as Tien'Chi.

[Tyrant]

Ten's ok with me.

[Ubercat]

I don't want the game to be crowded or anything, but I've used this map a lot and ten is pretty slim.

edit: Let's give it two days and see if we fill up. If no one else joins, we'll start with what we have.

[sansanjuan]

Ubercat said:
CBM downloaded. Thanks for letting me know I was wrong about it.



Uber- are we using CBM then?
-SSJ

[Ubercat]

No to the CBM. I'll probably use it in the next game I start, but I'm not prepared to use it in this one.

[StrictlyRockers]

I'll take vanheim, please.

[jimkehn]

Uber.....if you will let me in, I will play Sauromatia again!!! ;-)

[StrictlyRockers]

Game is full now? Time to send in pretenders?

[Ubercat]

All right. We got our 12 and are full. I will PM llamma and ask him to set it up.

[Ubercat]

Game is prepared. We can Email our pretenders to the llammaserver now. pretenders[AT]llamaserver.net, with DeadlyMedley as the title.

Can someone please tell me how to change the title of this thread?

[llamabeast]

Um, edit the first post.

How did you find the game creation process?

[Ubercat]

It went very smoothly. Thanks!

[Fal]

Tir na n'Og god sent

[jimkehn]

Sauromatia sent.

[Ubercat]

Bump. Need 4 more pretenders.

[jimkehn]

Am I being too impatient??? I would just like to start. 8 players isn't so bad. In fact sometimes the game just go faster with fewer players.

Of course....this has nothing to do with just getting annihilated in Dark Paradise.

[Ubercat]

Let's give them another day. Tomorrow night we'll go with what we have..... You and me both in DP. I don't have a chance either.

[StrictlyRockers]

I'm not a bit impatient. Tap tap tap tap tap....

[jimkehn]

Yeah, Uber. Kinda the same song, second verse with you as Mictlan and me as Sauromatia.

[Ubercat]

jimkehn said:
Yeah, Uber. Kinda the same song, second verse with you as Mictlan and me as Sauromatia.



You should take my sig to heart. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[llamabeast]

I recommend PMing the missing people. Often people just don't notice their game is open to pretenders at last.

[Ossa]

WIll send in a few min

[Ubercat]

llamabeast said:
I recommend PMing the missing people. Often people just don't notice their game is open to pretenders at last.



Good idea. NOW I have to go get ready for work and don't have time. Is anyone else willing to do this? I won't be back till after 8PM eastern, tonight.

It seems a long shot, come to think of it. If they'd checked the forum in the last 2 days they'd see that the post had new entries and a new title. Plus, if they don't check the forum, they won't get any PM's anyway.

[llamabeast]

It often works, promise.

Plus, some people (like me) have an e-mail sent to them when they receive a PM.

[Ubercat]

Ok. I'm back and no one stepped up to the bat apparently, so I'll figure out who needs PM's and send them out. We'll start in the morning, then, one way or another.

[Ubercat]

Ossa said:
WIll send in a few min



I just sent you a PM. I sent it before I remembered this post of yours. Your pretender never made it to the server.

[Ubercat]

Game started.

[Ubercat]

R'lyeh cheated.... I'm assuming that sansanjuan accidentally sent in a CBM pretender anyway. He may find it to be crippled by the game as a result.

I also noticed that we have 4-5 players crowded together up in the northwest corner of the map.

I like my starting position very much, but if people want to restart, I'll understand.

[llamabeast]

If you restart, I recommend using one of the versions of Cradle with fixed start positions.

[sansanjuan]

Ubercat said:
R'lyeh cheated.... I'm assuming that sansanjuan accidentally sent in a CBM pretender anyway. He may find it to be crippled by the game as a result.

I also noticed that we have 4-5 players crowded together up in the northwest corner of the map.

I like my starting position very much, but if people want to restart, I'll understand.



Hmmm. Cheating is not among my vices http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif . When I sent my pretender in I think I got a "looks good" email or some such thing from the server. I'll check when I get home to see if I inadvertantly had any mods active though I don't think I did.
-SSJ

[sansanjuan]

sansanjuan said:

Ubercat said:
R'lyeh cheated.... I'm assuming that sansanjuan accidentally sent in a CBM pretender anyway. He may find it to be crippled by the game as a result.

I also noticed that we have 4-5 players crowded together up in the northwest corner of the map.

I like my starting position very much, but if people want to restart, I'll understand.



Hmmm. Cheating is not among my vices http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif . When I sent my pretender in I think I got a "looks good" email or some such thing from the server. I'll check when I get home to see if I inadvertantly had any mods active though I don't think I did.
-SSJ



Damn! I did have CBM active (attached). If you restart can I resend?
-SSJ

[sansanjuan]

sansanjuan said:

sansanjuan said:

Ubercat said:
R'lyeh cheated.... I'm assuming that sansanjuan accidentally sent in a CBM pretender anyway. He may find it to be crippled by the game as a result.

I also noticed that we have 4-5 players crowded together up in the northwest corner of the map.

I like my starting position very much, but if people want to restart, I'll understand.



Hmmm. Cheating is not among my vices http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif . When I sent my pretender in I think I got a "looks good" email or some such thing from the server. I'll check when I get home to see if I inadvertantly had any mods active though I don't think I did.
-SSJ



Damn! I did have CBM active (attached). If you restart can I resend?
-SSJ



I turned the mod off and loaded my pretender. When he came out of dormancy I got "Dert has drowned!". I need to resend or bow out.... Stupid stupid me.
-SSJ

[jimkehn]

It was an honest mistake, and I think we should restart. If we use the fixed starting position map, does it still use the same.tga file? Do we players need to download anything? Or does the .trn file map data include everything we need?

[Fal]

let's restart guys.

[Dragar]

yep lets restart

[Ubercat]

Sounds good to me. I saw a fixed start map when I started the game, but I don't know where to DL it. I'm going to look around and see what I can figure out.

.....edit: We can't DL the map. Apparently we just need the regular map file we already have. The server randomly assigns us to the hand picked, balanced start positions.

I didn't realize that I could delete the original game, so I started a new one. Send your pretenders to DeadlyMedley2, instead.

I probably could have done this restart better and kept the same name. Oh well. Learning experience and all that.

[llamabeast]

Yeah, there's even a bonus new admin option which allows you to take a newly started game and take it back to the "Waiting for pretenders" stage, keeping all the pretenders, called "Restart game" I think. As you say though, all a learning experience, I think people had gotten used to the old set of options. Hmm, I really should update the FAQ soon, as it's horribly out of date.

Also, you're right about the map, you don't need to download it.

[Ubercat]

Ok, where did Arcosephale come from? Did someone switch factions? Not a problem but I really should be kept up to date on this stuff.

[archaeolept]

heh

did you manage to get all 12? it has been a while since i've played a game, and haven't ever done EA MP, and would be happy to send in some simple helheim pretender if you're missing someone http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ubercat]

archaeolept said:
heh

did you manage to get all 12? it has been a while since i've played a game, and haven't ever done EA MP, and would be happy to send in some simple helheim pretender if you're missing someone http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



You can probably get in. I'll keep you posted. Don't disappear for a couple three days, though, or we may start without you. There have already been far too many delays in this game.

[archaeolept]

yah... i'm around. got the next few months off hopefully http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

easy for me to upload a helheim pretender on a moment's notice... maybe i'll look at some of the other options too.

If you have an opening... i'm sure there'll be another game starting sometime if you don't http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[StrictlyRockers]

Ok resent Pretender.

[sansanjuan]

archaeolept said:
yah... i'm around. got the next few months off hopefully http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

easy for me to upload a helheim pretender on a moment's notice... maybe i'll look at some of the other options too.

If you have an opening... i'm sure there'll be another game starting sometime if you don't http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Arch,
Be sure your archived pretender was not created with CBM active. That can be quite embarrassing.
-SSJ

[archaeolept]

well, i'm vacationing in montreal along with my laptop... so i don't even have CBM installed :O

[Ubercat]

If the person playing Arco doesn't speak up, I'm going to set them to AI as soon as the game starts. If you're going to change factions let me know about it. How else can I see how many players we have?

[Ubercat]

Go ahead and send in Helheim, Arch. There's no way we have 12 players already.

DeadlyMedley2

[Ubercat]

All right, I've PM'd the missing people. Hopefully we'll get the players we need.

[archaeolept]

yah sending a pretender pdq

[Ubercat]

Ok, we have room for 2 more (3 if someone hadn't taken it on themselves to send an Arco pretender without the simple courtesy of posting in the thread).

We'll give the 1-2 remaining missing people till tonight to join up. Then we'll start.

[archaeolept]

probably someone just changed their nation... but who knows. can you ask llama to send an inquiry email, or is that too much trouble for him?

if he doesn't play we can always set him AI.

[Fal]

Tir na n'Og god resent.

[archaeolept]

11 including the mysterious arco... its a big enough map, a twelfth would be good...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Fal]

well I think we should kick Arco out, etiquette is one thing, but this would also avoid potential cheating and stalling.

According to my previous MP experience mysterious players who fail to acknowledge their identity should be banned in the first place, before something goes wrong.

[archaeolept]

it's pretty universal that they end up just staling out. If he's a real player, he should be able to post... Ubercat, you can restart it while keeping our other sent pretenders, right?

should modify the title to say we would like one or two more players, then.

[archaeolept]

got sent first turn... nagock glick fel
myloadmalloc; can't open file ./guiborder2.tga

?

are we using a differnt tga for cradle? or a mod i don't know about?

edit: got it solved; redownloaded it from gmail

[Ubercat]

Fal said:
well I think we should kick Arco out, etiquette is one thing, but this would also avoid potential cheating and stalling.

According to my previous MP experience mysterious players who fail to acknowledge their identity should be banned in the first place, before something goes wrong.



Exactly. No mystery players in my games.

[sansanjuan]

It can be either good orbad to be next to an AI in an MP game. The AI has no respect for NAPs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

-SSJ

[Fal]

First Turn sent, no problem so far.

[archaeolept]

hey jmkehn - shake your moneymaker http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[jimkehn]

Sorry guys. I did my turn as soon as the game started and sent the thing. Not sure what happened after that. I may have sent it by accident to medley1 insteada 2. Got it together, now.

[llamabeast]

Got this e-mail from a guy yesterday:

--
Hi,

This was going to be my first multiplayer Dominions game. It was said in the Llamaserver FAQ not to use a password for your pretender. It seems that somebody has hijacked my pretender as soon as the game started and reset the email address to their own email. I was playing as Arcoscephale. This is very discouraging and I think in the future you should not tell people not to set a password.
--

Of course it had nothing to do with the password. Took me a while to realise I could check his e-mail address against the log to work out which game he was talking about. Anyway, it seems he was your mysterious Arco player. I e-mailed him back to explain you have to post on the forum if you want to play in a game, and that you were well within your rights to kick him, but also that if he posted here to join a game he'd be very welcome.

Mystery (largely) solved. Still seems a bit bizarre he didn't post, but there we go.

[Ubercat]

Excellent! Glad to learn that my dark fantasies of cheating jerks were proven wrong. If you talk to him again, please let him know that I'm sorry I had to do that.

[Fal]

Crap....missed the first turn...

sorry about that people. Missed the first turn by approx 7 mins...

[Dragar]

I don't mind having things a bit cozy, but is it normal to have two capitals literally adjacent??? (separated by river)

[archaeolept]

a lot of rivers are impassible... it's probably a fair ways away really, and dominion won't spread between them either, as the game doesn't consider them connected in any way. I believe the capitals in question are actually 4 apart.

[Ubercat]

We appear to have lost Ulm. I'll give him one more turn before I do anything drastic. I guess I should've said the typical "2 stales in a row and you'll be set to AI" that many games seem to include.

[archaeolept]

just set him AI already... has he even ever taken a turn? certainly this is at least the third in a row...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[sansanjuan]

Be ready whoever is next to Ulm. The AI will buy a helluva force with 3 stale turns of gold.... on the other hand the Ulm Capital is E3D1N2 I believe.
-SSJ

[archaeolept]

well, i have no idea where he is... early stales always suck, but nothing you can do...

[Ubercat]

Alright. Ulm is AI'd.

[Ubercat]

Looks like we're losing Tir as well. If they stall tonight it will be the fourth in a row. If that happens I'll AI them as well.

Oh WHY can't people have the courtesy to let us know when they're quitting and AI themselves? No wonder all the more experienced game starters lay down the law in their OP's. They must have figured out long ago that you can't trust people to do the right thing.

Yeah, sure, could be PC trouble. Seems to be a lot of that in this game.

[sansanjuan]

Nice work on the expansion TC (below). I think I'm even more of a rookie playing underwater. Good learning experience though.
-SSJ


Nation Provinces
Arcoscephale 1
Ulm 8
Sauromatia 9
T'ien Ch'i 20
Mictlan 7
Abysia 13
Caelum 15
Tir na n'Og 4
Vanheim 9
Helheim 18
Hinnom 16
R'lyeh 6
Independents 95

[archaeolept]

I'd like to request we go to 48 hr hosting, as i'm losing internet connectivity at the place i'm staying (the guy got into an argument w/ his provider, and so cancelled everything ;p), and won't have my own until I go back in Sept.

I can manage 48 hr turns, but 24 is just too tight, as everything is dependent upon my getting to some internet cafe etc...

otherwise, I'll try and look for a sub, but as I'm in a very difficult war w/ aby, i'm not sure if i'll find takers. and going AI would suck, as there have been 3 already :(

[Ubercat]

Will set it to 48 hours now.

In other news, TC just stalled for the 2nd time in a row. I'm PM'ing him.

[sansanjuan]

All,
My brother will be subbing for my next turn or two. I'll be back Wed (CST).
-SSJ

[Tyrant]

I'm out of town this weekend, any chance for a hold? I will be able to do a turn Sunday night.

[Ubercat]

I'm out of town this weekend, any chance for a hold? I will be able to do a turn Sunday night.

More details, please. Do you mean hold from now until Sunday night? Sunday you will be back?

[Tyrant]

opps, sorry if that was confusing, it's been a hectic week and it suddenly occured to me at the last moment that i was gunna miss a turn.

[Ubercat]

opps, sorry if that was confusing, it's been a hectic week and it suddenly occured to me at the last moment that i was gunna miss a turn.

You're back now, though, right? Your absence was last weekend?

[archaeolept]

llamaserver seems partly down... not updating. i suggest the turn be halted for the nonce... at least until we figure out what is going on. If I'm forced to stale a very nice war will be ruined :(

[Ubercat]

llamaserver seems partly down... not updating. i suggest the turn be halted for the nonce... at least until we figure out what is going on. If I'm forced to stale a very nice war will be ruined :(

Did it not accept your turn? I see that you and another player are the only ones remaining without turns. If it accepts your turns, great. If not, it shouldn't run till tomorrow, anyway. In that case I'll delay it in the morning.

[archaeolept]

Micah claims that he's seen this before and everything is working fine on the back-end. However, when I submitted my turn to artifacts there was no reply mail nor was the status updated on the web-page. As you can see, all the games are stuck on "Last Updated 16:15 GMT".

so, i have no idea myself. I'll submit my turn before the deadline, but it won't tell us one way or the other... until the turn hosts.

however, isn't their some way to roll back a turn using the admin options for the game? that way, if worst comes to worst, it'll be salvagable and we can just go ahead as normal based on the assumption that things will work out :)

[archaeolept]

sent turn in. no change in status, no new turn yet.

/me crosses fingers :)

[Ubercat]

Yes, turns can be rolled back if necessary. I'd delay till llamma gets back, but that's 5 days. I still vote for waiting overnight and seeing how things look in the morning, as long as we're pretty sure that it's not due to host till then.

[Dragar]

looks like your turn has been received :)

Guess i'll have to win thsi war the old fashioned way! ;)

[archaeolept]

looks like your turn has been received :)

Guess i'll have to win thsi war the old fashioned way! ;)you mean emerge scrabbling from the detritus in time to see caelum and hinnom squabbling over your choicer parts?

that's if you're lucky ;p

yah, Llama is updating - and it sent me my confirmation email.

[Dragar]

You mean the battle hardened victor of this war will have earned his right to challenge Caelum and Hinnom for ascendancy? ;)

What's happening in the rest of the game peoples? Any good wards going on?

[Ubercat]

Keep in mind that this new forum software doesn't make new PM's as obvious as the old one. You don't get a flashing icon, just a tiny little number next to a tiny little "Private Messages: Unread..." in the upper right corner of the screen.

[sansanjuan]

Ossa,
Sent you a PM regarding a province a couple days ago. Did you get it?
-SSJ

[Ubercat]

Vanheim is creeping up on a fourth stall in a row, with no word in the thread from StrictlyRockers as to why. I'll PM him. If I don't receive a reply within a reasonable amount of time after the next stall I'll go ahead and AI him.

I sure wish people would take care of such things themselves.

[archaeolept]

yah, he disappeared from another starting game (the pimp one), so he's no doubt AWOL.

[Ubercat]

Judging from his profile I'd say that SR has been on since my PM and hasn't responded, or even returned my read receipt. I'll give him more time, however, because I'm considerate and it's not like we're all waiting for him yet. There are still other players who haven't taken their turns.

[sansanjuan]

All,
Just a reminder if you are the last to submit your turn... give the server 5 minutes to quickhost and then take your next turn. I've been guilty myself a couple times on missing such an opportunity but it certainly helps speed things up.

-SSJ



Greatly enjoying the game. R'yleh is curious on the current global situation(s). Feel free to post or PM if you'd like to chat or trade.


Head Astral Fish
Dert the Vith

[Ubercat]

Vanheim just staled 3 times in a row. He did that last month as well and then started playing again with no word as to what was going on. If he stales a fourth time I'm going to AI him. He's got 11 stales total with no word as to why.

When I made this game I thought of using the rule "Two consecutive stales and you'll be AI'd." that everyone else seems to use. I decided not to, thinking it was kind of rude. Now I'm thinking they were right on the money. Too many players don't police themselves and the others suffer endless delays as a result.

[archaeolept]

yah, we had bad luck w/ stalers - throws the game off. Not that it has mattered to me - I've now spent 3/4 of the game struggling to keep aby from wiping me out :)

[Dragar]

Well, struggle no longer ;) That was a nice tough war of attrition we fought, couldn't kill that damn cyclops off, so close a few times!

With caelum marching in and as of this turn rlyeh attacking I'm pretty much devoid of army and am going AI. Enjoy fighting over the scraps!

[sansanjuan]

Good game Drag!
-SSJ

[archaeolept]

Dragar - I've never fought a nation that is pretty much a "hard counter" to what i'm playing. I couldn't make any real headway ever against you, and had to settle for a long bitter guerrilla war. You prevailed against me every turn pretty well; but, of course, the end result was Pyrrhic as I dragged you down with me :)

It was my fault for not understanding how strong the EA aby sacreds were, as I had not encountered them before. In retrospect, I should have offered to split those northern territories, and we could have then expanded in two different directions. I doubt you would have accepted, though.

good fight.

[Dragar]

Yeah, they're good, probably is run into high prot and fire res and they are useless. My smite trap with all my anointeds was all I could think of, but that damned cyclops got away! I have to thikn of something a bit more diverse next time I play them, hard to think what though..

I was satisfied that in on eo my last turn I managed to bloody caelum a bit at least - took out 5 equipped bane lords and a few eagle kings.

[archaeolept]

that was a stupendous attempt by t'ien ch'i to deny caelum control of my cap, which would have brought tyrant to 6 vp. supid birds siege pretty quick ;p

if there hadn't been a reinforcing army for a second attack, Juffos would have held the day.

Now, if caelum assaults, w/ his handful of eagle kings, and prevails, he should win; depending on whether or not he is losing abysia.

It's like all of Caelum's armies finally decided to show up :)

[jimkehn]

Not ALL of them. I have a few on my front porch!!!

[archaeolept]

i believe llamaserver may not be accepting turns, at the moment, though it is unclear. I've gotten no receipts, nor has the status page updated my turn as in.


edit: and soon after posting this, i got a receipt - and it is updated on the status page, along w/ caelum... we'll see if it eventually hosts ;)

[archaeolept]

heh, my capital seems to be a popular place - there were 4 battles, and I wasn't even involved in any :)

Caelum still holds it, w/ his reinforcement army, but at least this turn's potential assault was delayed.

also, some protips for Hinnom:

1. I am not caelum. teleporting a thug onto my one remaining unsieged castle seems of dubious benefit.

2. encumbrance of 11 is not a good place to start for a trampler. This is even more the case for a flying trampler.

3. when sending thugs against me or caelum, you might want to consider having lighting resistance. That way, your melquarts will be less likely to die to my 1 PD... mind you, with 111 fatigue after one round of trampling and my attack, you were getting pretty beat up anyways from my phantasmal warrior and serf warrior :)

[Ossa]

Mrf... thanks for the advice:/

1. I teleported blindly. I had no idea whos province it was, I just *hoped* it would be caelums. I know this doesnt sound any better;)

2. Noted.

3. I actually didnt notice encumbrance gets so high by trampling and flying:/

[jimkehn]

did we decide to end this game??? Llamaserver is not carrying it anymore on his status page, and when I send in a new turn, I get a message that says LLamaserver is unfamiliar with this game.

[archaeolept]

llama is having a secondary issue. a few games on it have gone down. sit tight; there will be time enough for my glorious victory.

[Tyrant]

I got a turn 50, then a 51, then another 50, then a 52, this is not at all right.

[archaeolept]

delete your .2h file just in case and use the turn 52. it seems good to me. :)

[jimkehn]

Yeah....close enough. I did that and it seems to work.

[archaeolept]

Congrats to Tyrant! great win - you really pushed there. Otherwise, of course, I would eventually have emerged victorious ;p

[jimkehn]

Nice work, Tyrant!! Congrats!!

[Ubercat]

Congratulations, Tyrant. :)

[Tyrant]

Thanks everyone!

That was a weird game and i was feeling guilty about the easy win after my early neighbors all went AI, but I felt i earned it with the fierce fighting at the end there!

@archaeolept- Terrific geurilla campaign and a fearsome Cyclops. I can't remember another SC that gave me that much trouble, and i always admire a player who sticks out a losing cause and makes his opponent pay. /salute

@ Tien Chi- that was a truly amazing research curve and sprint to Arcane Nexus, well done!

@ Ubercat - thanks for organizing and running the game:up:

[archaeolept]

yah, that SC was coming back better than ever... oh well, it would have taken a few more turns to set him up :)

You should thank abysia for your win - i was all ready to contest ulm with you, early on, but aby's attack on turn 10 or so ended that plan. I've never played something that was so much a hard counter to everything I had. i couldn't touch his burning ones.

It was a fun game, even though I've been losing wars for the past 35 turns :)

[sansanjuan]

Tyrant,
Nice work!
-SSJ (R'lyeh)

[StrictlyRockers]

Congratz Tyrant. Well played.