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NTJedi
July 29th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Well to make a long story short my pretender has lots of horror marks from an SP game where I've super beefed up the AI opponents. AI opponents have units which cause horrormarks when struck.

Anyways sure enough eater of the gods shows up. My pretender is a wight having previously died from a murdering winter. Anyways luckily he had ritual of returning otherwise he'd be dead because Petrify did not kill or paralyze the eater of gods. Watching the battle over and over it's clear the spell did nothing.

QUESTION
Any thoughts why Eater of Gods(horror) escaped Petrify without even being paralyzed?

Renojustin
July 29th, 2008, 05:51 AM
Could have been Blood Vengeance, though that seems unlikely with the MR of a pretender. Or maybe that just applies to damage. Probably just damage.

Could Petrify be a mundane attack, mitigated by ethereality? There are other spells like that, like Bone Grinding.

NTJedi
July 29th, 2008, 06:03 AM
The creature being ethereal seems like the closest logical explanation... unless a MG resist test is also done against the side effect of paralyzation.

Kristoffer O
July 29th, 2008, 06:09 AM
He has three lives you know.

Also he is truly ethereal. It might protect from spells as well.

Renojustin
July 29th, 2008, 06:11 AM
I love when KO comes in and says something like that. It might help, this might happen, who knows?!

NTJedi
July 29th, 2008, 06:13 AM
Watching the battle again shows unit 1148 only has regular ethereal.

At the start of battle eater of gods shows as unit 1148... and at the very end of battle he's still unit 1148. So it doesn't appear to have killed any of his forms.

Renojustin
July 29th, 2008, 06:14 AM
Pretty sure True Ethereal is a hidden tag?

NTJedi
July 29th, 2008, 06:16 AM
Renojustin said:
Pretty sure True Ethereal is a hidden tag?



Actually it's not a hidden tag, unit 1149 and 1150 show the truly ethereal tag. The unit 1148, which is the first form, only has regular ethereal.

Renojustin
July 29th, 2008, 06:17 AM
Going to guess that Petrify is a mundane attack then.

Kristoffer O
July 29th, 2008, 06:20 AM
Or it might be impossible to petrify ethereals. THey are kind of squishy and intangible.

Renojustin
July 29th, 2008, 06:21 AM
Then it would kind of suck for the Gorgon to be attacked by warriors from the Ether Gate.

Then again, Gorgon or The Aegis Petrify isn't the same as the spell, we know, because it doesn't paralyze anyone... it might be missing a tag that the spell has, who knows.

NTJedi
July 29th, 2008, 06:22 AM
Kristoffer O said:
Or it might be impossible to petrify ethereals. THey are kind of squishy and intangible.



Sounds right... that's the direction I'm leaning.

Kristoffer O
July 29th, 2008, 06:22 AM
Interesting.

DigitalSin
July 29th, 2008, 09:39 AM
Haha, you have to love a game where the devs are as interested in certain occurances in game as the players.

reverend
July 29th, 2008, 09:45 AM
As someone who has to maintain year old, non-documented legacy code, I can tell you that THAT isn't as uncommon as one might hope.

Developers guessing the exact meaning of a few lines of code or finding that an obvious bugfix has sideeffect in completely unrelated code literally miles away. However, Illwinter still have the code and they're the ones that wrote it. But just today I looked through and cleaned up code I wrote last year - on more than one occasion I thought 'WTH was I thinking?'. And that was neat C# code with lots of commentaries...

Xietor
July 29th, 2008, 10:08 AM
Everything misses.

Even spells that are 100 percent precision. Yes it is rare, but i have cast soul slay and killed my own troops with it before.

Micah
July 29th, 2008, 12:54 PM
Petrify = 7AN paralyze damage. -6 for the size of the enemy (he is size 6, right?) so there's quite a good chance his roll just beat your roll +1. (and the net is also divided by 2, so if it rounds down it would just be a straight roll-off)

NTJedi
July 29th, 2008, 03:42 PM
Micah said:
Petrify = 7AN paralyze damage. -6 for the size of the enemy (he is size 6, right?) so there's quite a good chance his roll just beat your roll +1. (and the net is also divided by 2, so if it rounds down it would just be a straight roll-off)



good information... I didn't know the size would reduce the paralyze effect.